Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
I'm wondering how much longer this thread will be permitted as it has gone to being an OpenBook topic rather than a JAWS topic. Perhaps the moderators are simply looking at the subject line and moving on rather than reading the messages? Just curious. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of First CRC Tom Vos Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 5:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Gerald, Japanese or Chinese script would still account for gibberish output. You might need to ask a sighted person if that is what is actually on the paper. Sometimes instructions are very small print, or not well printed. If it is very small, perhaps it could be enlarged on a copy machine, though I have found that my scanner and Open Book can scann rather small text. Blessings, Tom Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:20:32 -0400 From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: 87ac53ed79c945498227d15bd300e...@glevy Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response No, the gibberish is not another language, just random characters and symbols that don't make any sense. Gerald FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: Unique auction site can save you 90% off retail. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c3a31f753776d4ccm01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
We try not to micro manage these lists because at least for me it is a hobby rather than a career. Never the less folks please change the subject line to reflect the content of the message. Oh BTW I do read every message that comes across this list. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: DJ grou...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 14:56 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents I'm wondering how much longer this thread will be permitted as it has gone to being an OpenBook topic rather than a JAWS topic. Perhaps the moderators are simply looking at the subject line and moving on rather than reading the messages? Just curious. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of First CRC Tom Vos Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 5:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Gerald, Japanese or Chinese script would still account for gibberish output. You might need to ask a sighted person if that is what is actually on the paper. Sometimes instructions are very small print, or not well printed. If it is very small, perhaps it could be enlarged on a copy machine, though I have found that my scanner and Open Book can scann rather small text. Blessings, Tom Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:20:32 -0400 From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: 87ac53ed79c945498227d15bd300e...@glevy Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response No, the gibberish is not another language, just random characters and symbols that don't make any sense. Gerald FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: Unique auction site can save you 90% off retail. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c3a31f753776d4ccm01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
I wonder how many people actually read the guidelines? Because those that do would ask this question directly to the management team, as directed in the guidelines. Please contact us privately for further discussion if needed. Thank you, Richard Q. Justice-list moderator blind-comput...@jaws-users.com jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com - Original Message - From: DJ grou...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents I'm wondering how much longer this thread will be permitted as it has gone to being an OpenBook topic rather than a JAWS topic. Perhaps the moderators are simply looking at the subject line and moving on rather than reading the messages? Just curious. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of First CRC Tom Vos Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 5:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Gerald, Japanese or Chinese script would still account for gibberish output. You might need to ask a sighted person if that is what is actually on the paper. Sometimes instructions are very small print, or not well printed. If it is very small, perhaps it could be enlarged on a copy machine, though I have found that my scanner and Open Book can scann rather small text. Blessings, Tom Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:20:32 -0400 From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: 87ac53ed79c945498227d15bd300e...@glevy Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response No, the gibberish is not another language, just random characters and symbols that don't make any sense. Gerald FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: Unique auction site can save you 90% off retail. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c3a31f753776d4ccm01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
Tom, Is this option available with other OCR programs, i.e. OmniPage Pro, or is this something only available if one has Open Book installed. Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of First CRC Tom Vos Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em 01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
Yeah, but I think that was implemented in the OB version after hers. - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
A similar option is available in Kurzweil, not in Omni that I'm aware of, at least up to Omni 15. - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Tom, Is this option available with other OCR programs, i.e. OmniPage Pro, or is this something only available if one has Open Book installed. Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of First CRC Tom Vos Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em 01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
However, in Kurzweil 1000 Omnipage's ScanSoft has the option to recognize pdf images, which it will do if you want. - Original Message - From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents A similar option is available in Kurzweil, not in Omni that I'm aware of, at least up to Omni 15. - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Tom, Is this option available with other OCR programs, i.e. OmniPage Pro, or is this something only available if one has Open Book installed. Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of First CRC Tom Vos Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em 01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
Thanks for this great tip. I had no idea OB could translate PDF documents that Adobe can't handle into speech. I tried it on a PDF instruction manual for a talking forehead thermometer I just ordered, and for the most part OB successfully converted it into a readable format. However, some of the pages translated into gibberish. Is there any way to clean this up to make it more intelligible? Thanks. Gerald - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
Just a thought. Is the jibberish another language? I've notice that sometimes the text on one side of a page is english and on the facing page it is french, spanish or japanese. At 07:23 AM 7/11/2010, you wrote: Thanks for this great tip. I had no idea OB could translate PDF documents that Adobe can't handle into speech. I tried it on a PDF instruction manual for a talking forehead thermometer I just ordered, and for the most part OB successfully converted it into a readable format. However, some of the pages translated into gibberish. Is there any way to clean this up to make it more intelligible? Thanks. Gerald - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
No, the gibberish is not another language, just random characters and symbols that don't make any sense. Gerald - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press braill...@hawaii.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Just a thought. Is the jibberish another language? I've notice that sometimes the text on one side of a page is english and on the facing page it is french, spanish or japanese. At 07:23 AM 7/11/2010, you wrote: Thanks for this great tip. I had no idea OB could translate PDF documents that Adobe can't handle into speech. I tried it on a PDF instruction manual for a talking forehead thermometer I just ordered, and for the most part OB successfully converted it into a readable format. However, some of the pages translated into gibberish. Is there any way to clean this up to make it more intelligible? Thanks. Gerald - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
Hi, all. Thanks for the help. I'm downloading version 8.0 from the FS site now. I'm hoping it has all of the features of the full product. Lisa I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net - Original Message - From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Yeah, but I think that was implemented in the OB version after hers. - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100711-0, 07/11/2010 Tested on: 7/11/2010 3:10:00 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
Hmm, could it be a picture? At 08:20 AM 7/11/2010, you wrote: No, the gibberish is not another language, just random characters and symbols that don't make any sense. Gerald - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press braill...@hawaii.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Just a thought. Is the jibberish another language? I've notice that sometimes the text on one side of a page is english and on the facing page it is french, spanish or japanese. At 07:23 AM 7/11/2010, you wrote: Thanks for this great tip. I had no idea OB could translate PDF documents that Adobe can't handle into speech. I tried it on a PDF instruction manual for a talking forehead thermometer I just ordered, and for the most part OB successfully converted it into a readable format. However, some of the pages translated into gibberish. Is there any way to clean this up to make it more intelligible? Thanks. Gerald - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
Could very well be graphics or pictures. Gerald - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press braill...@hawaii.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Hmm, could it be a picture? At 08:20 AM 7/11/2010, you wrote: No, the gibberish is not another language, just random characters and symbols that don't make any sense. Gerald - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press braill...@hawaii.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Just a thought. Is the jibberish another language? I've notice that sometimes the text on one side of a page is english and on the facing page it is french, spanish or japanese. At 07:23 AM 7/11/2010, you wrote: Thanks for this great tip. I had no idea OB could translate PDF documents that Adobe can't handle into speech. I tried it on a PDF instruction manual for a talking forehead thermometer I just ordered, and for the most part OB successfully converted it into a readable format. However, some of the pages translated into gibberish. Is there any way to clean this up to make it more intelligible? Thanks. Gerald - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
Gerald, Japanese or Chinese script would still account for gibberish output. You might need to ask a sighted person if that is what is actually on the paper. Sometimes instructions are very small print, or not well printed. If it is very small, perhaps it could be enlarged on a copy machine, though I have found that my scanner and Open Book can scann rather small text. Blessings, Tom Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:20:32 -0400 From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: 87ac53ed79c945498227d15bd300e...@glevy Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response No, the gibberish is not another language, just random characters and symbols that don't make any sense. Gerald FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: Unique auction site can save you 90% off retail. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c3a31f753776d4ccm01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
This happens more often when scanning, could those pages be flipped upside down? Most OCR software is also more sensitive to certain fonts and font sizes. Very small fonts can be particularly difficult to get meaningful results. Don Marang -- From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 2:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents No, the gibberish is not another language, just random characters and symbols that don't make any sense. Gerald - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press braill...@hawaii.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Just a thought. Is the jibberish another language? I've notice that sometimes the text on one side of a page is english and on the facing page it is french, spanish or japanese. At 07:23 AM 7/11/2010, you wrote: Thanks for this great tip. I had no idea OB could translate PDF documents that Adobe can't handle into speech. I tried it on a PDF instruction manual for a talking forehead thermometer I just ordered, and for the most part OB successfully converted it into a readable format. However, some of the pages translated into gibberish. Is there any way to clean this up to make it more intelligible? Thanks. Gerald - Original Message - From: First CRC Tom Vos wellsburg...@juno.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
Actually, both the Kurzweil Virtual Printer and Open Book's Freedom Import Printer function in that way. It is as if you placed each pdf page on the scanner. The recognize images option in both programs, which at least in the older versions OpenBook did better on is to convert a .tif or .Jpeg image and try to recognize the text contained in the image. Steve - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents However, in Kurzweil 1000 Omnipage's ScanSoft has the option to recognize pdf images, which it will do if you want. - Original Message - From: Steve k...@sbcglobal.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents A similar option is available in Kurzweil, not in Omni that I'm aware of, at least up to Omni 15. - Original Message - From: Alan Terrie Robbins arobb...@nycap.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Tom, Is this option available with other OCR programs, i.e. OmniPage Pro, or is this something only available if one has Open Book installed. Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]on Behalf Of First CRC Tom Vos Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Open Book has this capability. When you are in Adobe, use Control P to print. But instead of the default printer, you should find, Freedom Import Printer. When you choose this printer to print to, Open Book will start, scan the pdf file as if it were a paper file in your scanner, and hopefully leave you with readable text. Be patient, it may take a couple minutes for Open Book to boot and start scanning. Blessings, Tom Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:07:06 -0500 From: Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents Message-ID: a1761946b18846ae8d35328255d51...@user242125e2ca Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville FIRE SALE: iPads for $23.74? SPECIAL REPORT: iPads are being auctioned for an incredible 85% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4c39af659a7cc6b09em 01vuc For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
Hi. using JAWS 10 and Adobe Reader version 8: I'm trying to read menus at http://www.pagliaiscarbondale.com/ that is a PDF document. I can download the document, and I get the message that the document is untagged and Adobe needs to prepare it for reading. Then, once the document is ready, all I get is a message saying Alert, empty page. I've tried saving as a text document and still there's nothing visible to JAWS. Any thoughts on what to do here? Thanks. Lisa I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100710-2, 07/10/2010 Tested on: 7/10/2010 9:33:45 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
It's a graphic. Do you have some sort of scanning software that you can use to scan it like kurzwell? At 04:33 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote: Hi. using JAWS 10 and Adobe Reader version 8: I'm trying to read menus at http://www.pagliaiscarbondale.com/ that is a PDF document. I can download the document, and I get the message that the document is untagged and Adobe needs to prepare it for reading. Then, once the document is ready, all I get is a message saying Alert, empty page. I've tried saving as a text document and still there's nothing visible to JAWS. Any thoughts on what to do here? Thanks. Lisa I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100710-2, 07/10/2010 Tested on: 7/10/2010 9:33:45 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press braill...@hawaii.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents It's a graphic. Do you have some sort of scanning software that you can use to scan it like kurzwell? At 04:33 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote: Hi. using JAWS 10 and Adobe Reader version 8: I'm trying to read menus at http://www.pagliaiscarbondale.com/ that is a PDF document. I can download the document, and I get the message that the document is untagged and Adobe needs to prepare it for reading. Then, once the document is ready, all I get is a message saying Alert, empty page. I've tried saving as a text document and still there's nothing visible to JAWS. Any thoughts on what to do here? Thanks. Lisa I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100710-2, 07/10/2010 Tested on: 7/10/2010 9:33:45 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100710-2, 07/10/2010 Tested on: 7/10/2010 11:07:07 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents
That's what it sounds like. It all depends on how it was originally created. I've had that same experience with online menus. At 06:07 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote: I have a very old version of Openbook, like version 6.0, I think. I don't know if it had that capability. So there is something there, it's just not visible to JAWS? I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net - Original Message - From: Betsy Whitney, Dolphin Press braill...@hawaii.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and Blank PDF Documents It's a graphic. Do you have some sort of scanning software that you can use to scan it like kurzwell? At 04:33 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote: Hi. using JAWS 10 and Adobe Reader version 8: I'm trying to read menus at http://www.pagliaiscarbondale.com/ that is a PDF document. I can download the document, and I get the message that the document is untagged and Adobe needs to prepare it for reading. Then, once the document is ready, all I get is a message saying Alert, empty page. I've tried saving as a text document and still there's nothing visible to JAWS. Any thoughts on what to do here? Thanks. Lisa I HAD A THOUGHT! No. Wait. False alarm. Lisa Belville missktlab1...@verizon.net --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100710-2, 07/10/2010 Tested on: 7/10/2010 9:33:45 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100710-2, 07/10/2010 Tested on: 7/10/2010 11:07:07 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
