Re: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?

[JM Casey]

Hello Fernando

Thank you. I think this should work. I actually have Adobe Acrobat Pro here and 
while it is an old version, I have successfully gotten it to oCR entire books 
for me, though it's not 100% convenient as it locks up my entire system while 
doing so. I will experiment with the browser and Microsoft Print feature and 
see what can be done with JAWS and/or Acrobat.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: March 30, 2018 7:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?

Hi,

If you have Windows 10, you can print as PDF with no need of additional 
software.
First, open the image alone to make it fully visible without other content 
abobe or below. This is done by opening image's context menu and choosing View 
Image or the related command in your specific browser. The easier browser for 
this, although worse for most other things, is Internet Explorer, because you 
can simply place the JAWS Virtual Cursor on the graphic and press APPLICATIONS 
to open the picture's context menu.
When you have the full image opened in your web browser, press CTRL+P to open 
the Print dialog box. In the Printer Name combobox, choose Microsoft Print As 
PDF and press ENTER.
In the Save as dialog that will appear, give a name for the PDF and specify the 
location in which it'll be saved.
When the file is saved, open it in Adobe Reader. If your version of this 
program is too old, you may need to update it to a newer one so the JAWS PDF 
recognition feature works.
If you are presented a dialog about read unlabeled document, choose Guess the 
Reading Order from the Document and press ENTER.
When you are in the document, press the JAWS keystroke to recognize the 
document independently of your screen resolution and related settings, that is: 
JAWS+SPACEBAR, O, D.
Wait until JAWS displays the OCR Results window and see if the recognized text 
is useful.

Hope it helps!

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From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of JM 
Casey
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?

Hi everyone.

 

So, as most of you probably know, a lot of sighted people, when they want to 
share or copy something that's on their display, don't copy and paste. They 
take screen-shots. One can see how this is convenient; you don't have to worry 
about formatting, all images are represented, etc. Obviously though, without 
oCR, if there's important information in the screen-shot, it can be frustrating 
for a blind user.

 

So, I have JAWS 18 on this Windows 10 machine. I understand Convenient OCR has 
improved with JAWS 2018, but I can only work with what I've got. I'm looking at 
a page that contains a screen-shot of a powershell script, which I would like 
to be able to read. I have put my cursor where the image is, and done the JAWS 
OCR with the "c" parameter. The results are, sadly, as I unfortunately usually 
experience with Convenient oCR, just not up to scratch for this purpose. Lots 
of scanning errors. It could be that the image is unclear, of course. But I'm 
wondering if anyone with more experience can give me a pointer on what I can do 
with a screen-shot like this to make the image more susceptible to JAWS oCR.

 

I'm looking into getting Abbyy Finereader at some point, and I guess at least 
one variant of that program comes with a specialised screen-shot application. 
That'll be cool, but the software still costs a couple of hundred dollars and 
I'm going to have to hold out on that for now.

 

Any thoughts?

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi,

If you have Windows 10, you can print as PDF with no need of additional 
software.
First, open the image alone to make it fully visible without other content 
abobe or below. This is done by opening image's context menu and choosing View 
Image or the related command in your specific browser. The easier browser for 
this, although worse for most other things, is Internet Explorer, because you 
can simply place the JAWS Virtual Cursor on the graphic and press APPLICATIONS 
to open the picture's context menu.
When you have the full image opened in your web browser, press CTRL+P to open 
the Print dialog box. In the Printer Name combobox, choose Microsoft Print As 
PDF and press ENTER.
In the Save as dialog that will appear, give a name for the PDF and specify the 
location in which it'll be saved.
When the file is saved, open it in Adobe Reader. If your version of this 
program is too old, you may need to update it to a newer one so the JAWS PDF 
recognition feature works.
If you are presented a dialog about read unlabeled document, choose Guess the 
Reading Order from the Document and press ENTER.
When you are in the document, press the JAWS keystroke to recognize the 
document independently of your screen resolution and related settings, that is: 
JAWS+SPACEBAR, O, D.
Wait until JAWS displays the OCR Results window and see if the recognized text 
is useful.

Hope it helps!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of JM 
Casey
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?

Hi everyone.

 

So, as most of you probably know, a lot of sighted people, when they want to 
share or copy something that's on their display, don't copy and paste. They 
take screen-shots. One can see how this is convenient; you don't have to worry 
about formatting, all images are represented, etc. Obviously though, without 
oCR, if there's important information in the screen-shot, it can be frustrating 
for a blind user.

 

So, I have JAWS 18 on this Windows 10 machine. I understand Convenient OCR has 
improved with JAWS 2018, but I can only work with what I've got. I'm looking at 
a page that contains a screen-shot of a powershell script, which I would like 
to be able to read. I have put my cursor where the image is, and done the JAWS 
OCR with the "c" parameter. The results are, sadly, as I unfortunately usually 
experience with Convenient oCR, just not up to scratch for this purpose. Lots 
of scanning errors. It could be that the image is unclear, of course. But I'm 
wondering if anyone with more experience can give me a pointer on what I can do 
with a screen-shot like this to make the image more susceptible to JAWS oCR.

 

I'm looking into getting Abbyy Finereader at some point, and I guess at least 
one variant of that program comes with a specialised screen-shot application. 
That'll be cool, but the software still costs a couple of hundred dollars and 
I'm going to have to hold out on that for now.

 

Any thoughts?

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?

[JM Casey]

Yeah, guess I could use the J2018 demo for this. 

Thanks.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: March 30, 2018 12:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?

Hi JM,

I've had some success scanning these types of files with Openbook.  I don't
know it it'll work in this instance, but if you have Openbook try the
following:
1. Highlight the file you want to scan.
2. Press, control + P, for the print dialogue.
3. Arrow down to Freedom Import Printer, & press enter.  Give OB a few
seconds to wake up & start scanning, & hopefully you'll get a readable file
when finished.

Or, install the latest J2018 & see if it's OCR capability will getter done.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: JM Casey
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:27 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?


Hi everyone.



So, as most of you probably know, a lot of sighted people, when they want to
share or copy something that's on their display, don't copy and paste. They
take screen-shots. One can see how this is convenient; you don't have to
worry about formatting, all images are represented, etc. Obviously though,
without oCR, if there's important information in the screen-shot, it can be
frustrating for a blind user.



So, I have JAWS 18 on this Windows 10 machine. I understand Convenient OCR
has improved with JAWS 2018, but I can only work with what I've got. I'm
looking at a page that contains a screen-shot of a powershell script, which
I would like to be able to read. I have put my cursor where the image is,
and done the JAWS OCR with the "c" parameter. The results are, sadly, as I
unfortunately usually experience with Convenient oCR, just not up to scratch
for this purpose. Lots of scanning errors. It could be that the image is
unclear, of course. But I'm wondering if anyone with more experience can
give me a pointer on what I can do with a screen-shot like this to make the
image more susceptible to JAWS oCR.



I'm looking into getting Abbyy Finereader at some point, and I guess at
least one variant of that program comes with a specialised screen-shot
application. That'll be cool, but the software still costs a couple of
hundred dollars and I'm going to have to hold out on that for now.



Any thoughts?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?

[JM Casey]

Hi guys.

I would definitely use Open Book for this, if I had it. Unfortunately, I
don't. I mentioned Abbyy Fine Reader in my OP; I am looking into that
because it's a much less expensive product.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: March 30, 2018 5:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?

You can also uses the launch feature if that doesn't quite get it readable,
but I've got to find the keystroke for that.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?

Hi JM,

I've had some success scanning these types of files with Openbook.  I don't
know it it'll work in this instance, but if you have Openbook try the
following:
1. Highlight the file you want to scan.
2. Press, control + P, for the print dialogue.
3. Arrow down to Freedom Import Printer, & press enter.  Give OB a few
seconds to wake up & start scanning, & hopefully you'll get a readable file
when finished.

Or, install the latest J2018 & see if it's OCR capability will getter done.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message -
From: JM Casey
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:27 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?


Hi everyone.



So, as most of you probably know, a lot of sighted people, when they want to
share or copy something that's on their display, don't copy and paste. They
take screen-shots. One can see how this is convenient; you don't have to
worry about formatting, all images are represented, etc. Obviously though,
without oCR, if there's important information in the screen-shot, it can be
frustrating for a blind user.



So, I have JAWS 18 on this Windows 10 machine. I understand Convenient OCR
has improved with JAWS 2018, but I can only work with what I've got. I'm
looking at a page that contains a screen-shot of a powershell script, which
I would like to be able to read. I have put my cursor where the image is,
and done the JAWS OCR with the "c" parameter. The results are, sadly, as I
unfortunately usually experience with Convenient oCR, just not up to scratch
for this purpose. Lots of scanning errors. It could be that the image is
unclear, of course. But I'm wondering if anyone with more experience can
give me a pointer on what I can do with a screen-shot like this to make the
image more susceptible to JAWS oCR.



I'm looking into getting Abbyy Finereader at some point, and I guess at
least one variant of that program comes with a specialised screen-shot
application. That'll be cool, but the software still costs a couple of
hundred dollars and I'm going to have to hold out on that for now.



Any thoughts?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?

[Justin Williams]

You can also uses the launch feature if that doesn't quite get it readable,
but I've got to find the keystroke for that.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 12:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?

Hi JM,

I've had some success scanning these types of files with Openbook.  I don't
know it it'll work in this instance, but if you have Openbook try the
following:
1. Highlight the file you want to scan.
2. Press, control + P, for the print dialogue.
3. Arrow down to Freedom Import Printer, & press enter.  Give OB a few
seconds to wake up & start scanning, & hopefully you'll get a readable file
when finished.

Or, install the latest J2018 & see if it's OCR capability will getter done.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: JM Casey
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:27 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?


Hi everyone.



So, as most of you probably know, a lot of sighted people, when they want to
share or copy something that's on their display, don't copy and paste. They
take screen-shots. One can see how this is convenient; you don't have to
worry about formatting, all images are represented, etc. Obviously though,
without oCR, if there's important information in the screen-shot, it can be
frustrating for a blind user.



So, I have JAWS 18 on this Windows 10 machine. I understand Convenient OCR
has improved with JAWS 2018, but I can only work with what I've got. I'm
looking at a page that contains a screen-shot of a powershell script, which
I would like to be able to read. I have put my cursor where the image is,
and done the JAWS OCR with the "c" parameter. The results are, sadly, as I
unfortunately usually experience with Convenient oCR, just not up to scratch
for this purpose. Lots of scanning errors. It could be that the image is
unclear, of course. But I'm wondering if anyone with more experience can
give me a pointer on what I can do with a screen-shot like this to make the
image more susceptible to JAWS oCR.



I'm looking into getting Abbyy Finereader at some point, and I guess at
least one variant of that program comes with a specialised screen-shot
application. That'll be cool, but the software still costs a couple of
hundred dollars and I'm going to have to hold out on that for now.



Any thoughts?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?

[Mike B.]

Hi JM,

I've had some success scanning these types of files with Openbook.  I don't 
know it it'll work in this instance, but if you have Openbook try the 
following:
1. Highlight the file you want to scan.
2. Press, control + P, for the print dialogue.
3. Arrow down to Freedom Import Printer, & press enter.  Give OB a few 
seconds to wake up & start scanning, & hopefully you'll get a readable file 
when finished.

Or, install the latest J2018 & see if it's OCR capability will getter done.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.


- Original Message - 
From: JM Casey
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:27 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tips on dealing with/recognising screen-shots?


Hi everyone.



So, as most of you probably know, a lot of sighted people, when they want to
share or copy something that's on their display, don't copy and paste. They
take screen-shots. One can see how this is convenient; you don't have to
worry about formatting, all images are represented, etc. Obviously though,
without oCR, if there's important information in the screen-shot, it can be
frustrating for a blind user.



So, I have JAWS 18 on this Windows 10 machine. I understand Convenient OCR
has improved with JAWS 2018, but I can only work with what I've got. I'm
looking at a page that contains a screen-shot of a powershell script, which
I would like to be able to read. I have put my cursor where the image is,
and done the JAWS OCR with the "c" parameter. The results are, sadly, as I
unfortunately usually experience with Convenient oCR, just not up to scratch
for this purpose. Lots of scanning errors. It could be that the image is
unclear, of course. But I'm wondering if anyone with more experience can
give me a pointer on what I can do with a screen-shot like this to make the
image more susceptible to JAWS oCR.



I'm looking into getting Abbyy Finereader at some point, and I guess at
least one variant of that program comes with a specialised screen-shot
application. That'll be cool, but the software still costs a couple of
hundred dollars and I'm going to have to hold out on that for now.



Any thoughts?





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