Re: [Jmol-users] javascript command fails in Safari?

2008-09-06 Thread Eric Martz


Hmmm, this morning, after rebooting my Mac, neither can I reproduce it.
It is working fine now. Failure was 100% consistent yesterday. I'll see
if I can discern what if anything put Safari into this mode. I have the
Develop menu turned on, so access to Show Error
Console. I was using that a lot yesterday but after using it today,
Jmol's _javascript_ command still worked. (I find that Firefox's Error
Console usually gives a more specific diagnosis of where a _javascript_
error is in the .htm/.js files.)
Ah, here's a good possibility. I entered pause into the Jmol
console a couple of times yesterday, then apparently had to use
Force Quit of Safari to regain control. I didn't reboot after
that, but it crossed my mind that it would have been a good
idea.
-Eric
At 9/6/08, Dean Johnston wrote:
I can't reproduce this - the
_javascript_ command works just fine from the Jmol console for me on both
Firefox and Safari for OS X.
Dean
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Eric Martz

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It appears to me that the _javascript_ command of Jmol does not work
in

Safari on Mac OS X.

Examples, typed into the Jmol console:

_javascript_ alert(hi)

or

_javascript_ alert(document.location.href)

These display the alert in Firefox on Windows or Mac OS X, but not
in

Safari on Mac OS X.

If this is a known limitation, I suggest that it be documented
for

the _javascript_ command in the Jmol reference manual.

Thanks, Eric



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[Jmol-users] Getting a complete history/historyLevel

2008-09-06 Thread Eric Martz
It is often useful to be able to see the complete command history in 
Jmol applet's console, including all commands in scripts and scripts 
called from scripts (second level).

After trying a few ideas yesterday, I decided that set historyLevel 
1 was the best I hit upon. (Are there other methods?)

It appeared that this must be issued before the first script file is 
called. If it is issued within a script file, the subsequent commands 
seemed not to be reported.

Not surprisingly, I notice that set historyLevel 1 gives the 
commands in script files only one level down, plus the commands at 
the top level (level 0 I guess). If a script file contains a script 
command invoking a second level script file, the commands in that 
second level script are not reported.

So I tried set historyLevel 2. Now I get the commands in the second 
level script ONLY. The entire remainder of the history before and 
after (levels 0 and 1) is missing.

Is there a set historyLevel setting that will report the entire 
command history at all levels?

What are the possible values for set historyLevel N and what do they mean?

Bob, it would be great to clarify the documentation on set 
historyLevel about the range of legal values, what they mean, how to 
get the entire history for all levels all at once, and that the set 
historyLevel command must be issued before the first script command 
is encountered -- or whatever is correct if I have it wrong.

Thanks very much, -Eric


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Re: [Jmol-users] Getting a complete history/historyLevel

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
set historylevel 2

works fine for me. It should work as you expected.

But history was recording full scripts, not individual commands, so commands
were out of order. This might have thrown you off. That's corrected now.



On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Eric Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 It is often useful to be able to see the complete command history in
 Jmol applet's console, including all commands in scripts and scripts
 called from scripts (second level).

 After trying a few ideas yesterday, I decided that set historyLevel
 1 was the best I hit upon. (Are there other methods?)

 It appeared that this must be issued before the first script file is
 called. If it is issued within a script file, the subsequent commands
 seemed not to be reported.

 Not surprisingly, I notice that set historyLevel 1 gives the
 commands in script files only one level down, plus the commands at
 the top level (level 0 I guess). If a script file contains a script
 command invoking a second level script file, the commands in that
 second level script are not reported.

 So I tried set historyLevel 2. Now I get the commands in the second
 level script ONLY. The entire remainder of the history before and
 after (levels 0 and 1) is missing.

 Is there a set historyLevel setting that will report the entire
 command history at all levels?

 What are the possible values for set historyLevel N and what do they
 mean?

 Bob, it would be great to clarify the documentation on set
 historyLevel about the range of legal values, what they mean, how to
 get the entire history for all levels all at once, and that the set
 historyLevel command must be issued before the first script command
 is encountered -- or whatever is correct if I have it wrong.

 Thanks very much, -Eric


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Re: [Jmol-users] javascript command fails in Safari?

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
better to fix that.

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Eric Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 It appears to me that the javascript command of Jmol does not work in
 Safari on Mac OS X.

 Examples, typed into the Jmol console:

 javascript alert(hi)
 or
 javascript alert(document.location.href)

 These display the alert in Firefox on Windows or Mac OS X, but not in
 Safari on Mac OS X.

 If this is a known limitation, I suggest that it be documented for
 the javascript command in the Jmol reference manual.

 Thanks, Eric


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Re: [Jmol-users] javascript command fails in Safari?

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
sorry - missed some of those messages. OK, I'll assume the javascript
command is working ok. As for pause -- that would be a threading issue. But
pause is working fine for me on Mac OS-X.

Bob


On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Robert Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 better to fix that.

 On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Eric Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 It appears to me that the javascript command of Jmol does not work in
 Safari on Mac OS X.

 Examples, typed into the Jmol console:

 javascript alert(hi)
 or
 javascript alert(document.location.href)

 These display the alert in Firefox on Windows or Mac OS X, but not in
 Safari on Mac OS X.

 If this is a known limitation, I suggest that it be documented for
 the javascript command in the Jmol reference manual.

 Thanks, Eric


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Re: [Jmol-users] javascript command fails in Safari?

2008-09-06 Thread Eric Martz
In my previous message on this thread, I agreed that Jmol's 
javascript command was working in Safari on OS X. However, as I 
continue to test this code today, sometimes it stops working for no 
apparent reason. Once it stops, it seems to fail repeatably until I 
quit and restart Safari.

When it stops working, if the Jmol console is open and debugscript is 
on, the javascript command appears in the console, but the results of 
that javascript do not occur. I have not managed to examine the Java 
console when this is happening.

So I am getting intermittant failures. So I have decided not to rely 
on Jmol's javascript command. Instead I use Jmol's message command to 
send a unique message, trap that in messageCallback, and use that to 
trigger the desired javascript code. I have used messageCallback 
extensively and have never found any issues with it.

If anyone else observes this intermittant failure of Jmol's 
javascript command in Safari, I suggest that this be mentioned as a 
caution in the Jmol documentation entry on javascript.

My OS X and Safari are up to date: 10.5.4 and 3.1.2 respectively. I 
am using Jmol applet 11.6.RC12.

-Eric

At 9/6/08, Dean Johnston wrote:
I can't reproduce this - the javascript command works just fine from 
the Jmol console for me on both Firefox and Safari for OS X.

Dean

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Eric Martz 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It appears to me that the javascript command of Jmol does not work in
Safari on Mac OS X.
Examples, typed into the Jmol console:
javascript alert(hi)
or
javascript alert(document.location.href)
These display the alert in Firefox on Windows or Mac OS X, but not in
Safari on Mac OS X.
If this is a known limitation, I suggest that it be documented for
the javascript command in the Jmol reference manual.
Thanks, Eric

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Re: [Jmol-users] javascript command fails in Safari?

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
yes, that's a far better solution anyway. The javascript command cannot be
used with the signed applet in any command that also accesses files --
script, load, echo IMAGE. I had to do something like that in Jmol Protein
Explorer as well. You have to be very careful with more complex scripts that
you aren't mixing these two modes -- javascript commands and file reading --
in the same script thread.

That's one of the reasons I implement the change that # comments are not
simply ignored but instead processed as commands and sent to the script
callback function. That's definitely the way to go with complex scripts like
yours, Eric.

Eric, are you using the signed or unsigned applet?

Bob


On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Eric Martz [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 In my previous message on this thread, I agreed that Jmol's
 javascript command was working in Safari on OS X. However, as I
 continue to test this code today, sometimes it stops working for no
 apparent reason. Once it stops, it seems to fail repeatably until I
 quit and restart Safari.

 When it stops working, if the Jmol console is open and debugscript is
 on, the javascript command appears in the console, but the results of
 that javascript do not occur. I have not managed to examine the Java
 console when this is happening.

 So I am getting intermittant failures. So I have decided not to rely
 on Jmol's javascript command. Instead I use Jmol's message command to
 send a unique message, trap that in messageCallback, and use that to
 trigger the desired javascript code. I have used messageCallback
 extensively and have never found any issues with it.

 If anyone else observes this intermittant failure of Jmol's
 javascript command in Safari, I suggest that this be mentioned as a
 caution in the Jmol documentation entry on javascript.

 My OS X and Safari are up to date: 10.5.4 and 3.1.2 respectively. I
 am using Jmol applet 11.6.RC12.

 -Eric

 At 9/6/08, Dean Johnston wrote:
 I can't reproduce this - the javascript command works just fine from
 the Jmol console for me on both Firefox and Safari for OS X.
 
 Dean
 
 On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Eric Martz
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It appears to me that the javascript command of Jmol does not work in
 Safari on Mac OS X.
 Examples, typed into the Jmol console:
 javascript alert(hi)
 or
 javascript alert(document.location.href)
 These display the alert in Firefox on Windows or Mac OS X, but not in
 Safari on Mac OS X.
 If this is a known limitation, I suggest that it be documented for
 the javascript command in the Jmol reference manual.
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Re: [Jmol-users] Problems with echo images image buttons

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
Eric,

That script is way too complex for me to reproduce here, but I did fix the
echo alignment. There were a couple of bugs there, particularly with the
y-offset of centered echos. All should be fixed. I'll see if we can get RC13
out this weekend so you can check it.

Anything else you are finding?

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 Hi, Bob,

 This does not have to work in 11.6 (final release).

 On April 13, 2007, you announced that echos can be made into buttons
 that, when clicked, execute a specified script, giving this example:
 http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/buttons.htm
 This works fine for me. I can use this for now.

 The manual states that an image file can be displayed as an echo.

 I am trying to combine the two: display an image of a button, and
 have it respond to a click by executing a specified script. Because
 it will look like a button, I can avoid the long label that I might
 think best with a text echo Click Here to Center All, just labeling
 the button Center All. Plus, it will be more intuitive -- and COOL!

 I am having several problems displaying the image correctly, and
 these also keep the portion of the image that is clickable to be very
 tiny. I have placed a demo listing the issues here:

 http://www.bioinformatics.org/jmol-tutorials/jtat_2008_08_05/jtatdemo/test1/contents.htm

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Re: [Jmol-users] javascript command fails in Safari?

2008-09-06 Thread David Leader
Not sure that it has anything to do with Eric's problem, but remember  
when using Jmol and Safari to look at the Mac's own Console  
application (lives in utilities, but I keep it in my dock) for Jmol  
output.

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[Jmol-users] echo/set echo/color echo documentation

2008-09-06 Thread Eric Martz
Whenever I use echos, I get confused, and spend extra time discerning 
how they work. I would like to suggest that the documentation be 
improved by adding explicit statements of echo behavior to make the 
following points.

It appears to me that some but not all set echo commands accept the 
name of an echo.
set echo top left, set echo all/display/hidden/none/off 
apparently do not accept an echo name, if the documentation is 
correct. It might be useful, in the documentation, to separate the 
set echo commands into two sections, explicitly stating that one 
section accepts an echo name and the other does not.

It appears to me that while echo commands do not accept a name, 
they obey prior set echo commands, placing the echoed text into 
only the currently set echo name.

It appears to me that color echo and color echo background 
commands spill forward (from the currently named echo to subsequently 
set echo names) but do not spill backwards to previously set echo 
names. This is OK but can be unexpected and confusing.

Thus, in order to have different colors in an echo that follows an 
explicitly colored echo, one must explicitly color the new echo, or 
set its colors to none.

If the first thing after echo  is #, no text is echoed. If the # 
follows some text, e.g.
echo hello # goodbye
the comment is echoed. However if the echo text is quoted, then the 
following comment is not echoed. Again, OK, but could be confusing.

I think this script demonstrates all these principles, and could be 
put into the documentation as an example.

set echo off
background white

set echo myecho1 0% 100%
echo 1 Default Colors

set echo myecho2 40% 100%
#color echo myecho2 yellow NAME NOT ACCEPTED
color echo yellow
color echo background green
echo 2 Explicit Colors

set echo myecho3 100% 100%
echo 3 Inherits Colors

set echo myecho4 0% 90%
color echo red
color echo background pink
echo 4 Explicit Colors

set echo myecho5 40% 90%
color echo blue
echo 5 Explicit Text, Inherits Bkg

set echo myecho6 100% 90%
color echo none
color echo background none
echo 6 Explicit Colors None

set echo myecho7 0% 80%
color echo black
echo #comment7

set echo myecho8 40% 80%
echo comment 8A #comment 8B

set echo myecho9 100% 80%
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[Jmol-users] echo vs. hover?

2008-09-06 Thread Eric Martz
In the documentation, the sections on echo and set echo say See 
also: hover. At the section on hover, I don't see anything about 
echo, except See also: echo. Can echos have hovers? How?

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[Jmol-users] Dynamic base64 decoding

2008-09-06 Thread spilatrs



  Hi Bob,

  Aha, jmolScriptwait ? that?s the ticket!

  Yeah, I know about the MSIE issue, and I?m trying to deal with that  
now.  Here?s the issue: I'm adding the jmol applet images dynamically  
to the open webpage, as opposed to exporting to another window as does  
Angel?s code (and very nicely too).


  My code for MSEI looks like this:
if (nav64=='nocomp'){
var testimg=document.getElementById(SnpShtImg)
var imgB64 = image/jpeg;base64, + jmolGetPropertyAsString('image');
var B64path=base64.php
testimg.src = B64path + ? + imgB64;
}
Which calls Dean Edwards original base64.php code.

  It doesn?t work; the img appears empty.
Yet if I manually feed a base64-encoded image (such as this from Dean  
Edwards web page), it does work.


   
imgB64=data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhDwAPAKECzMzM/wAAACwADwAPAAACIISPeQHsrZ5ModrLlN48CXF8m2iQ3YmmKqVlRtW4MLwWACH+H09wdGltaXplZCBieSBVbGVhZCBTbWFydFNhdmVyIQAAOw==;


  Could the issue be the size of the jmol-derived image?

  Thinking about this from another angle? is there a technical reason  
why jmol cannot deliver a non-base64 encoded image that could be  
dynamically added to the open web page: something like   
testimg.src=jmolGetImage (?jpeg?)?


  (Have I just fully revealed my lack of understanding of JAVA, or,  
is this already possible and I have once again missed it in the  
documentation?)


   Steve

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Re: [Jmol-users] javascript command fails in Safari?

2008-09-06 Thread Nick Greeves

No problems on Safari here.


On 6 Sep 2008, at 16:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If anyone else observes this intermittant failure of Jmol's
javascript command in Safari, I suggest that this be mentioned as a
caution in the Jmol documentation entry on javascript.

My OS X and Safari are up to date: 10.5.4 and 3.1.2 respectively. I
am using Jmol applet 11.6.RC12.






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Re: [Jmol-users] javascript command fails in Safari?

2008-09-06 Thread Paul Pillot
Hi Eric,
I do observe the same behaviour on at least one project I work on.  
But it behaves the same in Firefox 3.0 as well.

Paul


 If anyone else observes this intermittant failure of Jmol's
 javascript command in Safari, I suggest that this be mentioned as a
 caution in the Jmol documentation entry on javascript.

 My OS X and Safari are up to date: 10.5.4 and 3.1.2 respectively. I
 am using Jmol applet 11.6.RC12.

 -Eric



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[Jmol-users] cgi and Jmol

2008-09-06 Thread avehna
Hello:

I just tried to run a Jmol java script inside a html document from a cgi
output, but I got an error (Exec format error). I pasted the same html code
generated from cgi output and it works perfectly, so it seems I should take
another thing into account trying to invoke a java script from the cgi
output and dont have any idea what it is. It will be very helpful to me if
any of you can help me.

Thank you

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Re: [Jmol-users] cgi and Jmol

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
Dear Avenha,

there is absolutely nothing special about cgi output. Hard to say what you
mean by a Jmol java script inside an HTML document. pasted the code to
what? Can you send an example or point us to a page? The main thing is to
have Jmol.js in the right place and have Jar and model files appropriately
placed as well. Also, a common error is capitalization. On your hard drive
capitalization of file names doesn't matter; on the server it will.

First thing is to find the Java console on your client and see what it is
telling you. Clip that message and send it by email to this list.

Bob Hanson


On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 5:21 PM, avehna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello:

 I just tried to run a Jmol java script inside a html document from a cgi
 output, but I got an error (Exec format error). I pasted the same html code
 generated from cgi output and it works perfectly, so it seems I should take
 another thing into account trying to invoke a java script from the cgi
 output and dont have any idea what it is. It will be very helpful to me if
 any of you can help me.

 Thank you

 A.

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Re: [Jmol-users] Dynamic base64 decoding

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
I don't think you can put that many bytes on a URL line. Better would be to
put the base64 data into a textarea in a form and submit it using
method=post. Even that might have some limitations.

Bob


On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 12:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi Bob,

 Aha, jmolScriptwait ? that?s the ticket!

 Yeah, I know about the MSIE issue, and I?m trying to deal with that now.  
 Here?s
 the issue: I'm adding the jmol applet images dynamically to the open
 webpage, as opposed to exporting to another window as does Angel?s code (and
 very nicely too).

 My code for MSEI looks like this:
 if (nav64=='nocomp'){
 var testimg=document.getElementById(SnpShtImg)
 var imgB64 = image/jpeg;base64, + jmolGetPropertyAsString('image');
 var B64path=base64.php
 testimg.src = B64path + ? + imgB64;
 }
 Which calls Dean Edwards original base64.php code.

 It doesn?t work; the img appears empty.
 Yet if I manually feed a base64-encoded image (such as this from Dean
 Edwards web page), it does work.


 imgB64=data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhDwAPAKECzMzM/wAAACwADwAPAAACIISPeQHsrZ5ModrLlN48CXF8m2iQ3YmmKqVlRtW4MLwWACH+H09wdGltaXplZCBieSBVbGVhZCBTbWFydFNhdmVyIQAAOw==;

 Could the issue be the size of the jmol-derived image?

 Thinking about this from another angle? is there a technical reason why
 jmol cannot deliver a non-base64 encoded image that could be dynamically
 added to the open web page: something like  testimg.src=jmolGetImage
 (?jpeg?)?

 (Have I just fully revealed my lack of understanding of JAVA, or, is this
 already possible and I have once again missed it in the documentation?)

  Steve

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 Dept of Biology and Environmental Science
 Marietta College
 Marietta, OH


 
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Re: [Jmol-users] echo vs. hover?

2008-09-06 Thread Robert Hanson
Eric,

No, it just means they are related. That's all.

Nico has released 11.6.RC13, so please check out my bug fixes.

Thanks, Nico!

Bob


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 In the documentation, the sections on echo and set echo say See
 also: hover. At the section on hover, I don't see anything about
 echo, except See also: echo. Can echos have hovers? How?

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