Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol/ChemDoodle -- test2

2012-04-17 Thread Robert Hanson
2012/4/17 Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es

  Specifically, http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/JmolCD.js is
  a library of extensions to ChemDoodle. What it actually does is to
  create a high-level object called Jmol (conveniently!) that loads
  applets in a new way. I think it is our new Jmol object JavaScript.
  And I suggest we make it THE development platform for the applet.

 This sounds like an exciting advance, and I'm just so sorry that I
 cannot follow it more closely now.
 My suggestion is that this change in Jmol.js dealing with applet
 objects is quite radical, and maybe justifies a change in major
 version number. That is, close down 12.4 with the old method and
 start 12.5 when the new Jmol.js starts to be developed.
 That would help sort out problems by making more apparent to users
 that a new system has been adopted (even though the users might not
 really notice the change since all is run behind the curtains by
 Jmol.js)


I think that's a great idea. Won't happen until June or July, but we can
aim for that.




  It's really got some nice features, like being able to go to a
  server-side JmolData.jar

 Can you elaborate on what are the requirements for the server?



PHP. Files are in the appletweb directory on SourceForge.

Bob


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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol/ChemDoodle -- test2

2012-04-17 Thread Paul Pillot
Bob,
I am still working on a rewrite of Jmol.js
It takes time, but my efforts are going in the same way as the library you made.
Hope I could make it available soon.

Paul

Le 17 avr. 2012 à 14:11, Robert Hanson a écrit :

 
 
 2012/4/17 Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es
  Specifically, http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/JmolCD.js is
  a library of extensions to ChemDoodle. What it actually does is to
  create a high-level object called Jmol (conveniently!) that loads
  applets in a new way. I think it is our new Jmol object JavaScript.
  And I suggest we make it THE development platform for the applet.
 
 This sounds like an exciting advance, and I'm just so sorry that I
 cannot follow it more closely now.
 My suggestion is that this change in Jmol.js dealing with applet
 objects is quite radical, and maybe justifies a change in major
 version number. That is, close down 12.4 with the old method and
 start 12.5 when the new Jmol.js starts to be developed.
 That would help sort out problems by making more apparent to users
 that a new system has been adopted (even though the users might not
 really notice the change since all is run behind the curtains by
 Jmol.js)
 
 
 I think that's a great idea. Won't happen until June or July, but we can aim 
 for that. 
  
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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol/ChemDoodle -- test2

2012-04-17 Thread Nicolas Vervelle
Hi,

I haven't really followed this discussion.
Can it be used for the MediaWiki extension ?

Nico

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Paul Pillot 
paul.pil...@ac-orleans-tours.fr wrote:

 Bob,
 I am still working on a rewrite of Jmol.js
 It takes time, but my efforts are going in the same way as the library you
 made.
 Hope I could make it available soon.

 Paul

 Le 17 avr. 2012 à 14:11, Robert Hanson a écrit :



 2012/4/17 Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es

  Specifically, http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/JmolCD.js is
  a library of extensions to ChemDoodle. What it actually does is to
  create a high-level object called Jmol (conveniently!) that loads
  applets in a new way. I think it is our new Jmol object JavaScript.
  And I suggest we make it THE development platform for the applet.

 This sounds like an exciting advance, and I'm just so sorry that I
 cannot follow it more closely now.
 My suggestion is that this change in Jmol.js dealing with applet
 objects is quite radical, and maybe justifies a change in major
 version number. That is, close down 12.4 with the old method and
 start 12.5 when the new Jmol.js starts to be developed.
 That would help sort out problems by making more apparent to users
 that a new system has been adopted (even though the users might not
 really notice the change since all is run behind the curtains by
 Jmol.js)


 I think that's a great idea. Won't happen until June or July, but we can
 aim for that.




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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol/ChemDoodle -- test2

2012-04-17 Thread Jaime Prilusky
I'm counting on that. Please let me know if you need any help.
Jaim

On Apr 17, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Nicolas Vervelle wrote:

Hi,

I haven't really followed this discussion.
Can it be used for the MediaWiki extension ?

Nico

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Paul Pillot 
paul.pil...@ac-orleans-tours.frmailto:paul.pil...@ac-orleans-tours.fr wrote:
Bob,
I am still working on a rewrite of Jmol.js
It takes time, but my efforts are going in the same way as the library you made.
Hope I could make it available soon.

Paul

Le 17 avr. 2012 à 14:11, Robert Hanson a écrit :



2012/4/17 Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.esmailto:angel.herr...@uah.es
 Specifically, http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/JmolCD.js is
 a library of extensions to ChemDoodle. What it actually does is to
 create a high-level object called Jmol (conveniently!) that loads
 applets in a new way. I think it is our new Jmol object JavaScript.
 And I suggest we make it THE development platform for the applet.

This sounds like an exciting advance, and I'm just so sorry that I
cannot follow it more closely now.
My suggestion is that this change in Jmol.js dealing with applet
objects is quite radical, and maybe justifies a change in major
version number. That is, close down 12.4 with the old method and
start 12.5 when the new Jmol.js starts to be developed.
That would help sort out problems by making more apparent to users
that a new system has been adopted (even though the users might not
really notice the change since all is run behind the curtains by
Jmol.js)


I think that's a great idea. Won't happen until June or July, but we can aim 
for that.


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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol/ChemDoodle -- test2

2012-04-17 Thread Robert Hanson
Paul, I expect we will merge. So please use the format I'm using as much as
possible.


Jmol.functionName() = function {}

We want to dispense with

_findApplet  pretty much and assume that in most cases we have the applet
object already.

For example,

JmolApplet()

should work, but it should also return a Jmol.Applet instance.


Bob

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Paul Pillot 
paul.pil...@ac-orleans-tours.fr wrote:

 Bob,
 I am still working on a rewrite of Jmol.js
 It takes time, but my efforts are going in the same way as the library you
 made.
 Hope I could make it available soon.

 Paul

 Le 17 avr. 2012 à 14:11, Robert Hanson a écrit :



 2012/4/17 Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es

  Specifically, http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/chemdoodle/JmolCD.js is
  a library of extensions to ChemDoodle. What it actually does is to
  create a high-level object called Jmol (conveniently!) that loads
  applets in a new way. I think it is our new Jmol object JavaScript.
  And I suggest we make it THE development platform for the applet.

 This sounds like an exciting advance, and I'm just so sorry that I
 cannot follow it more closely now.
 My suggestion is that this change in Jmol.js dealing with applet
 objects is quite radical, and maybe justifies a change in major
 version number. That is, close down 12.4 with the old method and
 start 12.5 when the new Jmol.js starts to be developed.
 That would help sort out problems by making more apparent to users
 that a new system has been adopted (even though the users might not
 really notice the change since all is run behind the curtains by
 Jmol.js)


 I think that's a great idea. Won't happen until June or July, but we can
 aim for that.




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