[Jmol-users] WebGL support in OS X Yosemite

2014-06-03 Thread Rzepa, Henry S
http://learningwebgl.com/blog/?p=6368  announce that  OS X Yosemite will 
support  WebGL.

Could someone remind me whether this will be supremely immaterial to  JSmol, or 
make a big difference, or something in between?


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Re: [Jmol-users] WebGL support in OS X Yosemite

2014-06-03 Thread Jaime Prilusky
Dear Henry,

WebGL does make a big difference. You may test how Jmol renders on WebGL by 
adding use=webgl to a Proteopedia URL, as in the following examples

http://proteopedia.org/w/1d66?use=webgl
http://proteopedia.org/w/HIV-1_protease?use=webgl

As I understand, not all the potential of Jmol is available on WebGL at this 
time.

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On Jun 3, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Rzepa, Henry S h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk wrote:

 http://learningwebgl.com/blog/?p=6368  announce that  OS X Yosemite will 
 support  WebGL.
 
 Could someone remind me whether this will be supremely immaterial to  JSmol, 
 or make a big difference, or something in between?
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Re: [Jmol-users] WebGL support in OS X Yosemite

2014-06-03 Thread Rzepa, Henry S

On 3 Jun 2014, at 15:51, Jaime Prilusky jaime.prilu...@weizmann.ac.il wrote:

 Dear Henry,
 
 WebGL does make a big difference. You may test how Jmol renders on WebGL by 
 adding use=webgl to a Proteopedia URL, as in the following examples
 
 http://proteopedia.org/w/1d66?use=webgl
 http://proteopedia.org/w/HIV-1_protease?use=webgl
 
 As I understand, not all the potential of Jmol is available on WebGL at this 
 time.
 

I know this list had a discussion of this point some way back, but  both 
Javamol and Javascriptmol  are now both generically described as  Jmol? That is 
to say,  WebGL speeds up  JSmol specifically?  If so, any benchmarks for 
whether it speeds up JVXL surfaces in particular or not? 


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Re: [Jmol-users] WebGL support in OS X Yosemite

2014-06-03 Thread Robert Hanson
The bigger news is a few lines down:

*MUCH more importantly however: people are discovering that WebGL is
running in the beta of mobile Safari on iOS 8! The site HTML5 Test
http://html5test.com/compare/browser/ios-7.0/ios-8.0.html indicates this.*

That's certainly of interest, and a smart move. Don't expect to see Jmol
fully converted to WebGL any time soon, though.

Bob




On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Rzepa, Henry S h.rz...@imperial.ac.uk
wrote:

 http://learningwebgl.com/blog/?p=6368  announce that  OS X Yosemite will
 support  WebGL.

 Could someone remind me whether this will be supremely immaterial to
  JSmol, or make a big difference, or something in between?


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Re: [Jmol-users] WebGL support in OS X Yosemite

2014-06-03 Thread Angel Herráez
Henry,

There is Jmol-JSO, which is the method to insert Jmol objects of any variant 
into the web page (replacing the old Jmol.js method).

That may insert
a) a Java applet
b) an HTML5 object (JSmol)
c) a WebGL object

So WebGL is an alternative, it is not attached to either Jmol/Java or JSmol. 
As I understand, it uses hardware? to accelerate graphical computation, 
that's why the behaviour (rotation) is smoother than JSmol. I do not know 
about surface computation but I bet it is accelerated too --or maybe not, it is 
just rendering that gets improved.
I don't have the time now for a test, but I have an old page with side-by-side 
Jmol modalities of variants, maybe you can time the surface in those (it's a 
small molecule). I see now that although the page is old, it's now using a 
recent version of Jmol.
http://biomodel.uah.es/Jmol/export-image/index_new.htm

Ah, it seems that isosurfaces are not implemented.





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