[Jmol-users] Apology, and request for help

2014-05-16 Thread Brenton Horne
Hi people

*I'd like to apologise for how much of a prick I can be when all you's are
doing is trying to help me*. *Thank you for your great patience*, which I
do not deserve. I am currently writing a blog post and I would love to be
able to include a few JSmol applets in it, if possible. I know to do this I
need to use *HTML markup language* but I'm a bit of a noob in this area, so
could you please show me a code I can use, that I can customise (by
changing the PDB file being used) to suite my needs? I have check this
http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Jmol_JavaScript_Object and, the noob that I
am, I can't seem to do anything with it, so could you please either help me
or direct me to a page that explains how to code this up in a simple way
(if you want to know my knowledge base, basically think, Would a
two-year-old under this? as that's the sort of level I'm at.

Thanks again, for your time,
Brenton
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Re: [Jmol-users] Apology, and request for help

2014-05-16 Thread Brenton Horne
understand this^, )^


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Brenton Horne brentonhorn...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi people

 *I'd like to apologise for how much of a prick I can be when all you's are
 doing is trying to help me*. *Thank you for your great patience*, which I
 do not deserve. I am currently writing a blog post and I would love to be
 able to include a few JSmol applets in it, if possible. I know to do this I
 need to use *HTML markup language* but I'm a bit of a noob in this area,
 so could you please show me a code I can use, that I can customise (by
 changing the PDB file being used) to suite my needs? I have check this
 http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Jmol_JavaScript_Object and, the noob that
 I am, I can't seem to do anything with it, so could you please either help
 me or direct me to a page that explains how to code this up in a simple way
 (if you want to know my knowledge base, basically think, Would a
 two-year-old under this? as that's the sort of level I'm at.

 Thanks again, for your time,
 Brenton

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Re: [Jmol-users] Apology, and request for help

2014-05-16 Thread Angel Herráez
Brenton,

That's not easy. Not just a question of how to edit html code, but 
blogs have their underlying engines designed to easy editing TEXT, 
which make doing advanced under-the-hood things actually more 
complex.

Have a look at

http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Blogs_Using_Jmol

http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/CMS_Using_Jmol

On the other hand, the HTM files included in J(S)mol download are 
templates that you could use as code to use and customize, but that's 
probably not going to work in a blog.

Another choice is using Jmol Export to Web, an utility included in 
the Jmol application. It will build fpr you web pages with embedded 
JSmol into them, but probably not working inside a blog.

I'd rather not discourage you, but you may need to abandon your plan. 
Doing sophisticated things requires time to learn, by practice, trial 
and error. No quick simple recipe!

Good luck!



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Re: [Jmol-users] Apology, and request for help

2014-05-16 Thread Pierluigi Quagliotto
Sorry for some unwanted english mistakes, but I am writing  from iPad and the 
automated corrector changed something here and there



Inviato da iPad

Il giorno 16/mag/2014, alle ore 21:34, Pierluigi Quagliotto 
pierluigi.quaglio...@unito.it ha scritto:

 Dear Brenton, and Dear Angel,
 
 The task could not be easy, but also, an answer could be done. At least for 
 the two most important and used Content Managing Systems, also known as CMS, 
 the thing is possible. 
 
 For the easiest CMS to be managed, Wordpress, the most used to host blog 
 sites, please refer to this address:
 
 http://pinostriccoli.altervista.org
 
 The author, Pino Striccoli, used this to give a lot of info and examples to 
 his students. Several pages are a good way to shed light on the way JMol or 
 JSMol can be used into it. 
 
 I am ready to publish a site made with Joomla, the other CMS. This site 
 should have to be ready about two months ago, but unfortunately, the hosting 
 service of my University was rebuilt in those last months, so I am waiting 
 that all the system can work well before activating the site.
 
 So, it is possibile and the real problem is how to solve some problems. As 
 Angel anticipated, in CMS site or blogs, the author and users can normally 
 introduce plain text. Sometimes it is possibile to format the text with some 
 HTML commands, but this is related to a choice of the site Administrator that 
 can activate this option. 
 
 If the blog is your personal blog you should have access to the 
 administrative panel of the blog. 
 
 In this case you should be able to solve our problems even it could seem a 
 bit tricky at a first sight. The page of an article or post is built by the 
 CMS that drive all the process. The text of the post is inserted in a large 
 part of HTML code that the CMS build to let your browser to give the typical 
 graphical aspect of the site. You have to face 2 main problems. To prepare a 
 HTML page  that uses JSMol, you should introduce the declaration of the jsmol 
 file, with javascript. The second one is to make able the CMS to read the 
 post as an HTML code so that it can be introduced by the CMS into the page 
 to be delivered.
 
 Those two problems can be solved since those CMS can be extended in their 
 basic fucntins by using extension that can be modules, components and 
 plugins. Both Joomla and Wordpress have plugins that can help the 
 admiistrator to insert code into the HEAD section, to solve the Javascript 
 declaration and also plugins that can let you inserting HTML code into the 
 post. 
 
 Depending the complexity of the JSMol use into the blog post, you  should 
 become familiar also with javascript and PHP, two programming languages.
 
 you can start to replicate some very basic example pages of JMol eamples by 
 looking into their code and trying to put all things in the right place into 
 the CMS. Only when things will become a bit more complicated, you should 
 acquire javascript and PHP knowledge.
 
 I started in the last days of December and a version of my site was working 
 and  to be published by the end of February, but the problems in the hosting 
 service caused me to delay.
 
 Do not give up... We were all noob at our beginning... The great problem is 
 to have time. 
 
 Just a final note: all what I described is possible if you are the 
 administrator of rhe blog. if you only want to show some JSMol application 
 into a post of an existing blog of which you are not the owner and 
 administrator, it is nearly impossible, because to avoid hacking, the blogs 
 and sites do not permit to introduce code to simpel users.
 
 Good luck!
 
 Pierluigi Quagliotto
 
 
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 Il giorno 16/mag/2014, alle ore 15:36, Angel Herráez angel.herr...@uah.es 
 ha scritto:
 
 Brenton,
 
 That's not easy. Not just a question of how to edit html code, but 
 blogs have their underlying engines designed to easy editing TEXT, 
 which make doing advanced under-the-hood things actually more 
 complex.
 
 Have a look at
 
 http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Blogs_Using_Jmol
 
 http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/CMS_Using_Jmol
 
 On the other hand, the HTM files included in J(S)mol download are 
 templates that you could use as code to use and customize, but that's 
 probably not going to work in a blog.
 
 Another choice is using Jmol Export to Web, an utility included in 
 the Jmol application. It will build fpr you web pages with embedded 
 JSmol into them, but probably not working inside a blog.
 
 I'd rather not discourage you, but you may need to abandon your plan. 
 Doing sophisticated things requires time to learn, by practice, trial 
 and error. No quick simple recipe!
 
 Good luck!
 
 
 
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