Re: Lenght of resumes
name dropper ;-) Bill --- Randal L. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: José == José Alves de Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: José A quick question: what's the standard size for resumes in your countries? Mine's about a paragraph long, but it's in the back of thousands of Perl books in the world, so I don't even have to send it along. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ
Re: Lenght of resumes
On Nov 13, 2007, at 12:00, Mr. Shawn H. Corey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randal L. Schwartz wrote: José == José Alves de Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: José A quick question: what's the standard size for resumes in yo ur countries? Mine's about a paragraph long, but it's in the back of thousands of Perl books in the world, so I don't even have to send it along. :) Not very useful. How about if someone was applying to you for a job, what size résumé would you like to see? Usually 1-2 pages. If you are very experienced then 2-3 pages. Everything in the resume should be interesting and relevant though. As lont as it is, the length isn't so important. - ask
Re: Lenght of resumes
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: Usually 1-2 pages. If you are very experienced then 2-3 pages. Everything in the resume should be interesting and relevant though. As lont as it is, the length isn't so important. One way to keep the resume shorter is to start trimming descriptions of your oldest positions. For example, I have my earliest two positions listed on my resume with just employer, title and dates, since presumably my more recent positions are going to be more interesting to a potential employer. -dave /*=== VegGuide.Orgwww.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===*/
Re: Lenght of resumes
DR == Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DR On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: Usually 1-2 pages. If you are very experienced then 2-3 pages. Everything in the resume should be interesting and relevant though. As lont as it is, the length isn't so important. DR One way to keep the resume shorter is to start trimming descriptions of DR your oldest positions. DR For example, I have my earliest two positions listed on my resume with DR just employer, title and dates, since presumably my more recent DR positions are going to be more interesting to a potential employer. that is a decent idea. i have to trim out many jobs because i have had so many over the years. i still keep some very old ones since the work i did there is still relevent to my career. but many smaller contracts and such are totally edited out of the short version. i keep a longer version around for me. even so my shorter version is about 3 pages. one thing i have done in helping out my clients is to show them how to write shorter and punchier job descriptions. this helps in reading and editing resumes. for example tell me what you were responsible for and don't tell me all the little technical details about which editor you used. you designed a foo system that did this. not i used apache and mod_perl and the foo module and the bar module and blah blah. i used OO perl throughout and used a waterfall development methodology except when it wasn't raining. uri -- Uri Guttman -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs http://jobs.perl.org
Lenght of resumes
Hi, folks. A quick question: what's the standard size for resumes in your countries? I hear that in some countries a resume can only have 1 page, while in others it has 4... I'd like to put some country names to the numbers O:-) FWIW, there really isn't a rule here in Portugal, but 1-2 pages is generally considered short, and 5 pages is usually considered long. What about your countries? TIA jac --- José Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Applicational Development Leader log www.log.pt Tel: +351 21 330 42 20 Fax: +351 21 330 42 19 Calçada Marquês de Abrantes, 45 - 3º Dto 1200-718 Lisboa ---
Re: Lenght of resumes
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007, José Alves de Castro wrote: A quick question: what's the standard size for resumes in your countries? It depends. I've heard rules like 1 page for every 5 years of experience, or something like that. Nowadays, resumes are often online, and never printed, so this seems like less of an issue. I personally haven't maintained a printable version of my resume for a really long time, I just point people at the web page. Mine is kind of long, but I've done a lot of stuff besides just work at jobs. -dave /*=== VegGuide.Orgwww.BookIRead.com Your guide to all that's veg. My book blog ===*/
Re: Lenght of resumes
On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 02:45:54PM +, Adrian Howard wrote: On 12 Nov 2007, at 14:42, Jos? Alves de Castro wrote: A quick question: what's the standard size for resumes in your countries? For the UK. I would say 1/2 page good. Three pages okay. More than three pages go in the bin. But that's just me :-) I try never to go over 2 pages myself. Two pages means someone can have them in a folder and look at both side by side. Of course, this means that I keep having to go back over my CV and revise it to keep it within the limit. That is a good thing. J -- Jody Belka knew (at) pimb (dot) org
Re: Lenght of resumes
Though it is not a real answer but you could look at LinkedIn, I am sure you have heard about it by now ;-) and check how much people write there and check if there is any correlation between length and country. BTW I was told it should better be your friend who brings your resume and then the length of the resume does not matter In Israel I used to try to be 1-2 pages long with the first page covering the important things and the second that can go into more details or less important issues. What might be also interesting here is if you write your resume in English or Hebrew or both? Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://www.szabgab.com/ Perl Training in Israel http://www.pti.co.il/ Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=key=82476
Re: Lenght of resumes
On Nov 12, 2007 8:06 PM, José Alves de Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 12, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: Though it is not a real answer but you could look at LinkedIn, I am sure you have heard about it by now ;-) Of course I've heard of LinkedIn! I even created a group for Perl Mongers there ;-) http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/40830/4971AC40763D Almost 500 people have already joined the group :-) No kiddin' ? :-) And do you know that it is a very good place to look for an insider contact in any company when you are looking for a job? Or that recruiters often use it to find candidates? And that you can recommend each other so that possible recruiters can already have a good first impression of you? I really appreciate the new Perl Mongers group on LinkedIn, I think it can really help a lot of people in our community to find a good job. Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://www.szabgab.com/ Perl Training in Israel http://www.pti.co.il/ Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=key=82476
Re: Lenght of resumes
AL == Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AL On Nov 12, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: I even created a group for Perl Mongers there ;-) http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/40830/4971AC40763D And do you know that it is a very good place to look for an insider contact in any company when you are looking for a job? AL What are you basing that on? Do you know anyone who has done so? I AL would love to hear stories of this happening. we will find out soon enough. i just joined that group (or at least applied and cog needs to approve it). i plan on using linkedin (and now this perl group) to market my perl head hunting services. as soon as i get perlhunter.com (don't look, it is empty) built a little i will experiment with promoting it on linkedin. i will report any results to andy and/or this list. and since i have your attention, i have several leads for perl hackers in boston and new york. let me know if you are interested. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] uri -- Uri Guttman -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stemsystems.com --Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding- Search or Offer Perl Jobs http://jobs.perl.org
Re: Lenght of resumes
On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 04:51:08PM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote: AL == Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AL On Nov 12, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: I even created a group for Perl Mongers there ;-) http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/40830/4971AC40763D And do you know that it is a very good place to look for an insider contact in any company when you are looking for a job? AL What are you basing that on? Do you know anyone who has done so? I AL would love to hear stories of this happening. we will find out soon enough. i just joined that group (or at least applied and cog needs to approve it). i plan on using linkedin (and now this perl group) to market my perl head hunting services. as soon as i get perlhunter.com (don't look, it is empty) built a little i will experiment with promoting it on linkedin. i will report any results to andy and/or this list. and since i have your attention, i have several leads for perl hackers in boston and new york. let me know if you are interested. email [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought actual head hunting was off-topic here. This is the *discussion* list, not the jobs list. Walt
Re: Lenght of resumes
On Nov 12, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Uri Guttman wrote: AL What are you basing that on? Do you know anyone who has done so? I AL would love to hear stories of this happening. we will find out soon enough. No, I meant using LinkedIn for networking with new people, not just the PM group. As far as I can see, LinkedIn is all about networking existing people a la Facebook, and I have yet to hear of anyone who has found anyone else via LinkedIn. That's the kind of story I'm looking for. xoxo, Andy -- Andy Lester = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = www.petdance.com = AIM:petdance
