Re: [JPP-Devel] Switching to Subversion...
Hello List, I just found this weblog about this subject: http://blogs.oracle.com/duffblog/2007/05/07#a411 By the way, I vote for Subversion although Netbeans support isn't as good as Eclipse one. I worked with both Systems and Subversion more intuitive for me. But maybe I'm getting a more experienced Developer ;-) Greetings, Malte Sunburned Surveyor schrieb: Stefan, How is you thesis going? I hope well. You wrote: And you may remember that i send a link around where somebody did compare svn and cvs, and according to this person there is no clear advantage for either system. I think there is some small advantages to SVN, at least on the administration side. As I mentioned, you don't have to go through SourceForge people to make certain changes to the repository. These benefits aren't major, so I'm not going to push this too hard... You wrote: for me the main reason not to switch is the need of time for configuring and seeing how svn runs so i - for now - stay with cvs You are correct in this resepect. I don't want the move to SVN to be a problem for our developers. I thought perhaps they had already learned to use Subversion on other projects. I will raise this issue again in a few more months. As more of our developers learn to use SVN I think the switch will be easier and make more sense. Thanks for taking the time to add your input on this. The Sunburned Surveyor On 4/14/07, *Sunburned Surveyor* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan On 4/14/07, *Stefan Steiniger* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the same, as michael says, holds for me. I dont have any feelings against subversion, but why switching to another systems if everything works fine. And you may remember that i send a link around where somebody did compare svn and cvs, and according to this person there is no clear advantage for either system. for me the main reason not to switch is the need of time for configuring and seeing how svn runs so i - for now - stay with cvs stefan Sunburned Surveyor schrieb: O.K. - I'll put you down as a neutral vote... On 4/13/07, *Michaël Michaud* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are any of the other developers using Subversion? Are there still strong feelings against the migration? No opinion, just like the most simple solution. I prefer having time to improve jump than to configure cvs/svn access :-) . The Sunburned Surveyor - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net 's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
Re: [JPP-Devel] Switching to Subversion...
Thanks Sunburned. I read the article linked to in Malte's post. I can see where Subversion's atomic commit would be important in some environments, but with the kind of service that I get from SourceForge, I would never get anything done if I had to start over each time I got an error. regards, Larry On 5/11/07, Sunburned Surveyor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Malte, Thanks for posting that link. We've decided to stick with CVS for the time being. That is the versioning control system that most of our developers are familiar with, and the advantages of Subversion aren't great enough at this time to make the switch. (Another great advantage of Subversion is that it can version binary files. I don't know if CVS can do this.) As a side note, I maintain a SVN repository at my SurveyOS SourceForge site, which stores some JUMP related code. This allows me to get some experience working with Subversion and Subversion tools in case we do decide to make the switch. I imagine we will probably move to Subversion as it becomes more popular and more of our developers start to work with it in their day jobs. The Sunburned Surveyor On 5/11/07, Malte Weller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, I just found this weblog about this subject: http://blogs.oracle.com/duffblog/2007/05/07#a411 By the way, I vote for Subversion although Netbeans support isn't as good as Eclipse one. I worked with both Systems and Subversion more intuitive for me. But maybe I'm getting a more experienced Developer ;-) Greetings, Malte Sunburned Surveyor schrieb: Stefan, How is you thesis going? I hope well. You wrote: And you may remember that i send a link around where somebody did compare svn and cvs, and according to this person there is no clear advantage for either system. I think there is some small advantages to SVN, at least on the administration side. As I mentioned, you don't have to go through SourceForge people to make certain changes to the repository. These benefits aren't major, so I'm not going to push this too hard... You wrote: for me the main reason not to switch is the need of time for configuring and seeing how svn runs so i - for now - stay with cvs You are correct in this resepect. I don't want the move to SVN to be a problem for our developers. I thought perhaps they had already learned to use Subversion on other projects. I will raise this issue again in a few more months. As more of our developers learn to use SVN I think the switch will be easier and make more sense. Thanks for taking the time to add your input on this. The Sunburned Surveyor On 4/14/07, *Sunburned Surveyor* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan On 4/14/07, *Stefan Steiniger* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the same, as michael says, holds for me. I dont have any feelings against subversion, but why switching to another systems if everything works fine. And you may remember that i send a link around where somebody did compare svn and cvs, and according to this person there is no clear advantage for either system. for me the main reason not to switch is the need of time for configuring and seeing how svn runs so i - for now - stay with cvs stefan Sunburned Surveyor schrieb: O.K . - I'll put you down as a neutral vote... On 4/13/07, *Michaël Michaud* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are any of the other developers using Subversion? Are there still strong feelings against the migration? No opinion, just like the most simple solution. I prefer having time to improve jump than to configure cvs/svn access :-) . The Sunburned Surveyor - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net 's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV
Re: [JPP-Devel] Switching to Subversion...
I use CVS for work, which is enough to make me a big subversion fan :-) Atomic commits are the big thing I like, but I'm also a big of sym-link support. That one isn't a big issue with this code base, I imagine, but I like it anyways... -Craig - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Switching to Subversion...
the same, as michael says, holds for me. I dont have any feelings against subversion, but why switching to another systems if everything works fine. And you may remember that i send a link around where somebody did compare svn and cvs, and according to this person there is no clear advantage for either system. for me the main reason not to switch is the need of time for configuring and seeing how svn runs so i - for now - stay with cvs stefan Sunburned Surveyor schrieb: O.K. - I'll put you down as a neutral vote... On 4/13/07, *Michaël Michaud* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are any of the other developers using Subversion? Are there still strong feelings against the migration? No opinion, just like the most simple solution. I prefer having time to improve jump than to configure cvs/svn access :-) . The Sunburned Surveyor - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Switching to Subversion...
Stefan, How is you thesis going? I hope well. You wrote: And you may remember that i send a link around where somebody did compare svn and cvs, and according to this person there is no clear advantage for either system. I think there is some small advantages to SVN, at least on the administration side. As I mentioned, you don't have to go through SourceForge people to make certain changes to the repository. These benefits aren't major, so I'm not going to push this too hard... You wrote: for me the main reason not to switch is the need of time for configuring and seeing how svn runs so i - for now - stay with cvs You are correct in this resepect. I don't want the move to SVN to be a problem for our developers. I thought perhaps they had already learned to use Subversion on other projects. I will raise this issue again in a few more months. As more of our developers learn to use SVN I think the switch will be easier and make more sense. Thanks for taking the time to add your input on this. The Sunburned Surveyor On 4/14/07, Sunburned Surveyor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stefan On 4/14/07, Stefan Steiniger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the same, as michael says, holds for me. I dont have any feelings against subversion, but why switching to another systems if everything works fine. And you may remember that i send a link around where somebody did compare svn and cvs, and according to this person there is no clear advantage for either system. for me the main reason not to switch is the need of time for configuring and seeing how svn runs so i - for now - stay with cvs stefan Sunburned Surveyor schrieb: O.K. - I'll put you down as a neutral vote... On 4/13/07, *Michaël Michaud* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are any of the other developers using Subversion? Are there still strong feelings against the migration? No opinion, just like the most simple solution. I prefer having time to improve jump than to configure cvs/svn access :-) . The Sunburned Surveyor - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net 's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net 's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
[JPP-Devel] Switching to Subversion...
While we're talking about upgrading things...I thought I would again mention the idea of moving our code repository over to Subversion. I have been using Subversion at the SurveyOS project for a while, and it really has some advantages over CVS. (You don't need to put in a SourceForge service request to delete or move a directory, for one thing.) Subversion is supported in both Netbeans and Eclipse. It has open source graphical clients that run on Windows and Linux. (RapidSVN and TortoiseSVN are a couple.) We have the ability to host a Subversion repository at the JPP SourceForge site. There are a couple of free books available for Subversion. Are any of the other developers using Subversion? Are there still strong feelings against the migration? The Sunburned Surveyor - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
Re: [JPP-Devel] Switching to Subversion...
Are any of the other developers using Subversion? Are there still strong feelings against the migration? No opinion, just like the most simple solution. I prefer having time to improve jump than to configure cvs/svn access :-) . The Sunburned Surveyor - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
