Re: [kaffe] Upgrading autotools requirements to a more recent version

2003-02-03 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi Tim,

--- Timothy Stack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When i sync'd janosvm with the current kaffe I
 updated to the latest auto* 
 tools, it wasn't too hard to do.  My main complaint
 so far is that 
 configure doesn't get run automatically after you
 run autogen.sh and 
 the Makefiles don't regenerate themselves.  Other
 than that it was a 
 pretty easy transition.

could you send me a patch for autogen.sh?

cheers,
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[kaffe] Re: [kaffe] Upgrading autotools requirements to a more recent version

2003-01-25 Thread Jim Pick
Nobody likes to mess with the auto* tools.

How about if we put together a separate small toolchain
package that developers can install, which contains versions
of the auto* tools that can be installed in an non-intrusive
location.  We'd release a new toolchain tarball periodically.

Then anybody would be able to update the configure scripts.

A more controversial move would be to remove the
autogenerated bits from CVS - then people building from
CVS would be forced to use autogen.sh and the toolchain.
I'm interested in what CVS users think about that.  I think
we could meet the needs of casual CVS users by just doing
more frequent releases.

Personally, I think we should continue to check in the
autogenerated bits (eg. configure and the Makefile.in's)
for the time being.

Cheers,

 - Jim

 Hi,
 I'd like to do another round of asking who's using
 what version of auto* tools, and if upgrading kaffe to
 use the latest versions would be desirable or cause
 problems. See this thread for the last discussion of
 the issues involved:
 http://www.kaffe.org/pipermail/kaffe/2002-December/028418.html
 I'd like to raise the discussion again, because
 a) Pat has 'leaped ahead' of automake 1.4 and autoconf
 2.13 on his system.
 b) Dan has been using latest auto* tools for a while
 (and libtool from CVS) without much problems.
 c) Tim doesn't like to mess with auto* tools :)
 d) I'd prefer to use the latest  greatest autotools
 for a few reasons, one of them being able to merge
 Dan's libtool-from-CVS patch.
 I've CC:ed Pat, Tim and Dan because they've sent in
 patches for the build system recently, but I'd like to
 hear everyone else's opinion, too.
 best regards,
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[kaffe] Upgrading autotools requirements to a more recent version

2003-01-24 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi,

I'd like to do another round of asking who's using
what version of auto* tools, and if upgrading kaffe to
use the latest versions would be desirable or cause
problems. See this thread for the last discussion of
the issues involved:
http://www.kaffe.org/pipermail/kaffe/2002-December/028418.html

I'd like to raise the discussion again, because
a) Pat has 'leaped ahead' of automake 1.4 and autoconf
2.13 on his system.
b) Dan has been using latest auto* tools for a while
(and libtool from CVS) without much problems.
c) Tim doesn't like to mess with auto* tools :)
d) I'd prefer to use the latest  greatest autotools
for a few reasons, one of them being able to merge
Dan's libtool-from-CVS patch.

I've CC:ed Pat, Tim and Dan because they've sent in
patches for the build system recently, but I'd like to
hear everyone else's opinion, too.

best regards,
dalibor topic

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Re: [kaffe] Upgrading autotools requirements to a more recent version

2003-01-24 Thread gonzo
Hi guys.

 I'd like to do another round of asking who's using
 what version of auto* tools, and if upgrading kaffe to
 use the latest versions would be desirable or cause
 problems. See this thread for the last discussion of
 the issues involved:
 http://www.kaffe.org/pipermail/kaffe/2002-December/028418.html

i'm using autoconf 2.13 and automake 1.4p6 on Debian/unstable.  i do have
autoconf2.50 on my box, though the command autoconf refers to 2.13 by
default.


 I'd like to raise the discussion again, because
 a) Pat has 'leaped ahead' of automake 1.4 and autoconf
 2.13 on his system.
 b) Dan has been using latest auto* tools for a while
 (and libtool from CVS) without much problems.
 c) Tim doesn't like to mess with auto* tools :)
 d) I'd prefer to use the latest  greatest autotools
 for a few reasons, one of them being able to merge
 Dan's libtool-from-CVS patch.

i read the previous thread and am a little unclear as to what advantages
autoconf 2.56+ and automake 1.7 have over the older, more prevalent
versions.  however, since i'm not a great maker of build files i'll take
your word as to their superiority.

for me, snagging the latest versions via apt (i use debian) isn't really a
problem, so i wouldn't mind the transition.  i would imagine that, for
most users, getting the latest and greatest versions of auto*, though it
might require a 5 minute delay before tinkering with their latest CVS copy
of kaffe, wouldn't be a huge problem, so i would say go for the upgrade.

i've done a quick survey of the dependencies of the old auto* vs. the new
auto* and they both rely on the same versions of libc and other libraries,
so users wanting to compile kaffe would only have to install the latest
auto* and not a ton of other new libaries as well.


cheers,
~rob


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Re: [kaffe] Upgrading autotools requirements to a more recent version

2003-01-24 Thread Timothy Stack
 Hi,

hi,

 I'd like to do another round of asking who's using
 what version of auto* tools, and if upgrading kaffe to
 use the latest versions would be desirable or cause
 problems. See this thread for the last discussion of
 the issues involved:
 http://www.kaffe.org/pipermail/kaffe/2002-December/028418.html

When i sync'd janosvm with the current kaffe I updated to the latest auto* 
tools, it wasn't too hard to do.  My main complaint so far is that 
configure doesn't get run automatically after you run autogen.sh and 
the Makefiles don't regenerate themselves.  Other than that it was a 
pretty easy transition.

 best regards,
 dalibor topic

tim

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Re: [kaffe] Upgrading autotools requirements to a more recent version

2003-01-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
gonzo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 i'm using autoconf 2.13 and automake 1.4p6 on Debian/unstable.  i do have
 autoconf2.50 on my box, though the command autoconf refers to 2.13 by
 default.

Current Debian unstable uses autoconf 2.57.

Prior to this, Debian had both autoconf 2.13 and 2.5x simultaneously.
/usr/bin/autoconf was a wrapper script which would invoke autoconf2.5x
if a configure.ac file existed in `pwd`, or autoconf2.13 otherwise.
This is true even in woody (Debian 3.0), so it's been that way for a
fairly long time.

Try this:

cd /tmp
touch configure.ac
autoconf --version

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