Re: [kbuild-devel] [RFC/RFT] kbuild: save ARCH CROSS_COMPILE

2007-10-09 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:12:56PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:02:55PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
 ...
  The settings are stored in the build directory in a file
  named Kbuild.config (should it be a .dot file?).
 ...
 
 A .dot file sounds better.
I will make it .kbuild.
Droppeing the .config bits of the name will hopefully avoid that
people mess with it manually.

 BTW: I'm currently trying without success to understand why the
  drivers/infiniband/{hw/amso1100,ulp/srp}/Kbuild files are not
  named Makefile.
Giacomo explained this already..
But I have never done a global renaming - the
pain/benefit ratio seems too low.

Sam

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Re: [kbuild-devel] [RFC/RFT] kbuild: save ARCH CROSS_COMPILE

2007-10-09 Thread Oleg Verych
On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 06:17:43AM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
  
  What about, that this is the first ever prompt, that must be shown and
  written to the .config?
 Two issues to fix before we can do this:
 1) chocie values cannot have more than one prompt

what occupying all my time now is to try to make fast and easy (text/tty)
user interface, based solely on TERM=linux capability. It is such, but
deep in ncurses/lxdialog wrappers. Having more flexible TUI without
all past stereotypes is the major point in making any progress for
flexible configuration interface. Remember, how blind `select` hurts.
It does due to UI limitations in first place, IMHO.

 2) We need to share much more Kconfig* between the individual architectures
First step is to let all arch's use drivers/Kconfig

All syntax wars are over, now order is the second thing to achieve. Like
in x86 merge case, this is purely technical thing with a bit of manual
work after that. sed magic for (nearly any kind :) of textual processing
i can guarantee without (yet another) C (like fixdep.c, parts of
sumversion.c, etc.)

 Let's get the two items above solved then we can revisit adding arch selection
 to kconfig (where it belongs in the end).
 And neither require a rewrite of kconfig...

Since i try to do test driven development, it's more easy for me to
understand/fix/test today's things via making bits from scratch. Fresh
view can do more on debugging of the logic level also.


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Re: [kbuild-devel] [RFC/RFT] kbuild: save ARCH CROSS_COMPILE

2007-10-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 08:03:33AM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:12:56PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
...
  BTW: I'm currently trying without success to understand why the
   drivers/infiniband/{hw/amso1100,ulp/srp}/Kbuild files are not
   named Makefile.
 Giacomo explained this already..
 But I have never done a global renaming - the
 pain/benefit ratio seems too low.

Either keep all as Makefile or rename all.

But being inconsequent creates maximum confusion.

   Sam

cu
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Re: [kbuild-devel] [RFC/RFT] kbuild: save ARCH CROSS_COMPILE

2007-10-09 Thread Sam Ravnborg
On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 10:09:06AM -0400, Jeff Dike wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 12:00:30PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
  If it is OK to drop the $(SUBARCH) assingment like this then yes.
  ARCH?=
  CROSS_COMPILE   ?=
 
 Does the UML build still work when you do that?

The original behaviour is kept is ARCH is not set on the
commandline and saved in .kbuild (Kbuild.config in the patch).

The logic goes basically like this:
If there is no .kbuild file then set ARCH = $(SUBARCH)
else set ARCH = saved ARCH from .kbuild.

And then a bit sanity check that the user does not
try to change architecture in the middle.

I actually used um as testing ground for this patch so
it works for um in my way of building um.

I considered switching architectures automagically
but concluded that in most cases when a user change ARCH
then that's because the user forgot to specify ARCH or more
seldom forgot what ARCH was being built in that directory.

Sam

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[kbuild-devel] [RFC/RFT] kbuild: save ARCH CROSS_COMPILE

2007-10-08 Thread Sam Ravnborg
One of the complaints that I continue to hear is that kbuild
is lacking a way to 'remember' the ARCH and CROSS_COMPILE
values originally used.
Likewise we have people that change ARCH settings and get
a lot of build errors due to asm symlink pointing at the
wrong directory.

This patch tries to address this by saving ARCH and
CROSS_COMPILE settings and error out if user specify
anohter ARCH or CROSS_COMPILE setting.
If there is inconsistency then error out and suggest
to run make mrproper.

This will as a side-effect prevent a build with the wrong
asm symlink.

The settings are stored in the build directory in a file
named Kbuild.config (should it be a .dot file?).

I have tested it here with success - but please give
it a try in your setup and let me know if anything breaks.

The patch is on top of latest linus tree but should apply
with some fuzz to -mm too (at least it apply on top of 
my kbuild.git tree).

PS. I do not like adding additional cruft to the top-level
Makefile but did not find an easy way to push this to
kconfig.

Sam

diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile
index 6fc97bf..9f6d03f 100644
--- a/Makefile
+++ b/Makefile
@@ -182,8 +182,33 @@ SUBARCH := $(shell uname -m | sed -e s/i.86/i386/ -e 
s/sun4u/sparc64/ \
 # Default value for CROSS_COMPILE is not to prefix executables
 # Note: Some architectures assign CROSS_COMPILE in their arch/*/Makefile
 
-ARCH   ?= $(SUBARCH)
-CROSS_COMPILE  ?=
+# Kbuild save the ARCH and CROSS_COMPILE setting in Kbuild.config
+# Restore these settings and check that user did not specify
+# conflicting values.
+Kbuild.config: ;
+noconfigcheck-targets := clean mrproper distclean help %config
+
+ifneq ($(wildcard Kbuild.config),)
+-include Kbuild.config
+ifeq ($(filter $(noconfigcheck-targets),$(MAKECMDGOALS)),)
+ifneq ($(CROSS_COMPILE),)
+ifneq ($(CROSS_COMPILE),$(KBUILD_CROSS_COMPILE))
+$(error CROSS_COMPILE changed from 
$(KBUILD_CROSS_COMPILE) \
+to $(CROSS_COMPILE). Use make 
mrproper to fix it up)
+endif
+endif
+ifneq ($(ARCH),)
+ifneq ($(KBUILD_ARCH),$(ARCH))
+$(error ARCH changed from $(KBUILD_ARCH) \
+to $(ARCH). Use make mrproper to 
fix it up)
+endif
+endif   
+endif
+CROSS_COMPILE := $(KBUILD_CROSS_COMPILE)
+ARCH := $(KBUILD_ARCH)
+else
+ARCH ?= $(SUBARCH)
+endif
 
 # Architecture as present in compile.h
 UTS_MACHINE := $(ARCH)
@@ -351,6 +376,12 @@ scripts_basic:
 # To avoid any implicit rule to kick in, define an empty command.
 scripts/basic/%: scripts_basic ;
 
+# Save CROSS_COMPILE and ARCH for subsequent make invocations
+PHONY += Kbuild.config.save
+Kbuild.config.save:
+   $(Q)echo KBUILD_ARCH := $(ARCH) Kbuild.config
+   $(Q)echo KBUILD_CROSS_COMPILE := $(CROSS_COMPILE)  Kbuild.config
+
 PHONY += outputmakefile
 # outputmakefile generates a Makefile in the output directory, if using a
 # separate output directory. This allows convenient use of make in the
@@ -413,7 +444,7 @@ ifeq ($(config-targets),1)
 include $(srctree)/arch/$(ARCH)/Makefile
 export KBUILD_DEFCONFIG
 
-config %config: scripts_basic outputmakefile FORCE
+config %config: scripts_basic outputmakefile Kbuild.config.save FORCE
$(Q)mkdir -p include/linux include/config
$(Q)$(MAKE) $(build)=scripts/kconfig $@
 
@@ -853,7 +884,10 @@ PHONY += prepare archprepare prepare0 prepare1 prepare2 
prepare3
 # and if so do:
 # 1) Check that make has not been executed in the kernel src $(srctree)
 # 2) Create the include2 directory, used for the second asm symlink
-prepare3: include/config/kernel.release
+prepare3: include/config/kernel.release Kbuild.config.save
+ifneq ($(KBUILD_CROSS_COMPILE)$(KBUILD_ARCH),)
+   $(Q)echo '  Using ARCH=$(ARCH) CROSS_COMPILE=$(CROSS_COMPILE)'
+endif
 ifneq ($(KBUILD_SRC),)
@echo '  Using $(srctree) as source for kernel'
$(Q)if [ -f $(srctree)/.config -o -d $(srctree)/include/config ]; then \
@@ -919,10 +953,10 @@ define filechk_version.h
echo '#define KERNEL_VERSION(a,b,c) (((a)  16) + ((b)  8) + (c))';)
 endef
 
-include/linux/version.h: $(srctree)/Makefile FORCE
+include/linux/version.h: $(srctree)/Makefile prepare2 FORCE
$(call filechk,version.h)
 
-include/linux/utsrelease.h: include/config/kernel.release FORCE
+include/linux/utsrelease.h: include/config/kernel.release prepare2 FORCE
$(call filechk,utsrelease.h)
 
 # ---
@@ -1050,7 +1084,7 @@ CLEAN_FILES +=vmlinux System.map \
 MRPROPER_DIRS  += include/config include2 usr/include
 MRPROPER_FILES += .config .config.old include/asm .version .old_version \
   

Re: [kbuild-devel] [RFC/RFT] kbuild: save ARCH CROSS_COMPILE

2007-10-08 Thread Oleg Verych
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:02:55PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
 One of the complaints that I continue to hear is that kbuild
 is lacking a way to 'remember' the ARCH and CROSS_COMPILE
 values originally used.

Yea, finally.

What about, that this is the first ever prompt, that must be shown and
written to the .config?

The zeroth one is an config entry of kernel version(s), .config can
configure and thus build successfully.


This are among other ideas about kconfig/kbuild, you know nothing
about yet.

So, what do you think?

Also, i'd like to propose sequencing of config-enable-build-this-unit
in config file(s), thus Makefile(s) (sometimes very small and stupid)
will be not necessary. Additional link ordering can be supplied as
meta-config information there. Shell scripting, very ugly in the view
of make syntax, will be natural in config files. Extending build
process to get hidden dependencies or right linking/other magic is
part of particular configuration. Hm?

And i want to repeat this to the wall:

make is stupid `test -nt` (non POSIX, but accepted my shells and GNU test
feature). Making any kind of hashing to make dream of kbuild-2.5
developers/fans -- more complete `up-to-date' heuristic possible, is just
like `md5sum  $OBJDIR/heuristic.com`, which is config selectable (for
those, who don't like a bit of slowdown).
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Re: [kbuild-devel] [RFC/RFT] kbuild: save ARCH CROSS_COMPILE

2007-10-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 10:02:55PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
...
 The settings are stored in the build directory in a file
 named Kbuild.config (should it be a .dot file?).
...

A .dot file sounds better.

And even if not, generated files should IMHO not share the Kbuild* 
namespace with non-generated files.

Apart from this I like the patch.

   Sam
...

cu
Adrian

BTW: I'm currently trying without success to understand why the
 drivers/infiniband/{hw/amso1100,ulp/srp}/Kbuild files are not
 named Makefile.

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Re: [kbuild-devel] [RFC/RFT] kbuild: save ARCH CROSS_COMPILE

2007-10-08 Thread Sam Ravnborg
 
 What about, that this is the first ever prompt, that must be shown and
 written to the .config?
Two issues to fix before we can do this:
1) chocie values cannot have more than one prompt
2) We need to share much more Kconfig* between the individual architectures
   First step is to let all arch's use drivers/Kconfig

Let's get the two items above solved then we can revisit adding arch selection
to kconfig (where it belongs in the end).
And neither require a rewrite of kconfig...

 Also, i'd like to propose sequencing of config-enable-build-this-unit
 in config file(s), thus Makefile(s) (sometimes very small and stupid)
 will be not necessary. Additional link ordering can be supplied as
 meta-config information there. Shell scripting, very ugly in the view
 of make syntax, will be natural in config files. Extending build
 process to get hidden dependencies or right linking/other magic is
 part of particular configuration. Hm?
Discussed before but so far no patches has shown up.

Sam

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Re: [kbuild-devel] [RFC/RFT] kbuild: save ARCH CROSS_COMPILE

2007-10-08 Thread Sam Ravnborg
  2) We need to share much more Kconfig* between the individual architectures
 First step is to let all arch's use drivers/Kconfig
 
 2) isn't terribly difficult, just takes some time and willingness
 of $arch maintainers to some changes, but please explain a bit more
 why it is needed...?

A prerequisite for moving ARCH selection to Kconfig is that we
read in all Kconfig files for all architectures.
To do so efficient we should avoind including the same Kconfig
file for each architecture which is obviously the case today.

The efficiency comes both with respect to reading the files but
also memory consumption. If we read in drivers/Kconfig only once
then we will avoid some duplication compared to reading drivers/Kconfig
once for each architecture.

The structure we should aim for is something like a top-level
Kconfig file that pull in relevant parts from the kernel tree
and where the arch Kconfig only pull in additional Kconfig files
from that arch.

When we get this far we will have a more logical structure
in the Kconfig file and their distribution.

But the showstopper is the part with choice value that cannot have more
than a single prompt so when we have the same choice value
used in two arch Kconfig files then kconfig will warn and the
choice will do the wrong thing.
I never took a deeper look at this - I seem to get distracted each
time I try to understand all the inner details of the kconfig
use of data structures.

Sam


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