[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Michal Kubeček]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178320

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--- Comment #52 from Michal Kubeček  ---
Well, for the record, not everyone is happy about this change. The previous
implementation allowed me to have one big window with multiple tabs, split it
into two views and pick independently any tab for the left view and any tab
for the right view. Now, with konsole 19.12.2, I have to split each tab
separately and then I can only see fixed pairs of half-windows.

I understand that this way it makes more sense for people who don't use
multiple tabs (as previous comments show) but for me the feature is no longer
useful. I'll have to forget about split views and go back to multiple windows
but that is still a big step back as it will still limit the combinations of
tabs I can see simultaneously.

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Ace]

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--- Comment #51 from Ace  ---
Thanks and congratulations. Hard work from developers in communicating with
users on features like these is what makes open source projects so wonderful.
It would be possible to say "THIS BUG HAS BEEN OPEN SINCE 2008, ABOUT TIME".
But in reality, the KDE/Konsole devs are releasing a huge update after
listening to the community. I admire you all. Thank you for the work.

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[xliiv]

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Eddie J Carswell II]

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Christoph Feck]

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--- Comment #50 from Christoph Feck  ---
This should be fixed in 19.08.0

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Shmerl]

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--- Comment #49 from Shmerl  ---
Is this included in 19.04.3?

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Simon Williams]

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--- Comment #48 from Simon Williams  ---
Hooray! That's even better than I was hoping for. Thanks.

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[bugzilla_noreply]

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--- Comment #47 from tcanabr...@kde.org ---
Please compile master, the current behavior is what you expect

Em qua, 17 de jul de 2019 às 11:04, Simon Williams 
escreveu:

> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178320
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> --- Comment #46 from Simon Williams  ---
> I've been longing for this to be fixed for years. I don't understand the
> current behaviour at all. It's confusing and nonsensical.
>
> Maybe there is some reason why you sometimes want to duplicate output or
> scroll
> back one copy whilst typing commands in the other. But this is surely a
> very
> rare case, so it should not be the default behaviour, and definitely not
> the
> only behaviour!
>
> I'm sure everyone would be happy if it worked like this:
>
> - When you open a new split, the new split gets its own tab bar with one
> new
> tab in it
> - You can drag tabs between splits to move them around as you want
> - If you want to clone a tab so it appears in both splits, you can hold
> CTRL
> whilst dragging, or right click on it and select "clone tab"
>
> Please can we get this fixed!
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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Simon Williams]

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--- Comment #46 from Simon Williams  ---
I've been longing for this to be fixed for years. I don't understand the
current behaviour at all. It's confusing and nonsensical.

Maybe there is some reason why you sometimes want to duplicate output or scroll
back one copy whilst typing commands in the other. But this is surely a very
rare case, so it should not be the default behaviour, and definitely not the
only behaviour!

I'm sure everyone would be happy if it worked like this:

- When you open a new split, the new split gets its own tab bar with one new
tab in it
- You can drag tabs between splits to move them around as you want
- If you want to clone a tab so it appears in both splits, you can hold CTRL
whilst dragging, or right click on it and select "clone tab"

Please can we get this fixed!

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Gastón M . Tonietti]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178320

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Mathieu Jobin]

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--- Comment #45 from Mathieu Jobin  ---
I could have swear we already had posted a comment on this bug, there is this
project that does not have too many features but works well for the most part

https://github.com/kterminal/kterminal/

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Ace]

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--- Comment #44 from Ace  ---
I would give a lot to have these features. Konsole is so great. I understand
the primary reason this hasn't been done yet is overlap with other software
(tmux/yakuake/etc) but it would make Konsole much more useful to me. I've
collected bug reports and a video for anyone interested. Since this is the
largest/oldest thread then I'm posting here. I would even be happy to attempt
to contribute code if there's a sane place to do so. 

Video:

https://youtu.be/8qmlfIP5-bE

Here are all the reports:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178320
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385697
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203970
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180770

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Alexander Potashev]

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Kurt Hindenburg]

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--- Comment #43 from Kurt Hindenburg  ---
*** Bug 343360 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Michal Hlavac]

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Mathieu Jobin via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #42 from Mathieu Jobin  ---
hey, we got something that work !


https://bitbucket.org/somekool/kde-start/branch/app_close

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Mathieu Jobin via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #41 from Mathieu Jobin  ---
I created a gitter room for easier communication around this project

anyone interested participating into creating a new app, or working on
konsole's fork.

please join.

https://gitter.im/konsole-multi-terminal/Lobby

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[xliiv via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #40 from xliiv  ---
I've suspended my work on this, because it took me too much time to learn
c++/cmake/compile working in this project in general and I simple got bored by
real coding of the feature.
Anyway I could share my experience, which is this:

First steps, Vincecio's work:
I made successfully port of Vincencio's work to qt5 (perhaps it's this branch
https://github.com/xliiv/konsole-multi-terminal/tree/kde5port I'm not sure :)).
It worked with some minor flaws, like closing last terminal didn't trigger
window closing etc.
But it worked. However my tests were very limited, like compile do some splits,
close terminal, etc.
Then i thought about Yakuake.

Experimenting with Yakuake:
After that I thought that I could "reuse" some of work from Yakuake project.
I started to play a bit with Yakuake and as far as i remember I extracted some
code of Yakuake project and got simple minimal splitable terminal application
based on Yakuake project.
I've got it on private repo so I could publish it if anyone is interested.

Back to Konsole:
Next step was to reuse knowlegde and code from `experimenting with Yakuake`
step in Konsole project. I got working horizontal split using Yakuake concept,
but it was very non-production version.
And then i started to reanalyze it. Because it's complex topic.
Feature creation is one thing and shipping it is another thing.
Not saying about the KPart should still works. And what about current split
which should be removed(?).
It's very complex case which lead me to the conslusion that the easiest way of
doing this is to create a new application.
The new application would adopt KPart (like Yakuake did). Because Yakuake is
almost Konsole with splits. Yakuake doesn't allow you to run more than one
instance but this is very easy change comparing it to deep down design changes
in Konsole views/splits etc.
And such deep changes are vary hard without A LOT OF TESTS.

However I'm not sure if this solution (like new application) is acceptable by
Konsole/KDE maintainers?

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Ron Eggler via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #39 from Ron Eggler  ---
>
>
> pick your poison, I'll be happy to help as well, but I can't take this
> alone.
>

Hi Mathieu,

Sounds like a good idea. I'd be happy to step-in and help as well as - just
saying

Ron

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Mathieu Jobin via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #38 from Mathieu Jobin  ---
I use KDE all day everyday and I love everything about it. this long lived bug
is my only pain point at the moment...

it would be great to just have it fixed in konsole. but it does not look like
its going to happen from the main devs.

the hard part I find when trying to rip this off and keeping vincenzo's split
work, was all apps using the kpart like kate and kdeveloper were crashing on
start up. so that would need fixing.

you can look at my fork on github which I'm sure I linked above.

then xliiv started to port the fork to KDE Framework 5 world, but I'm not sure
its anywhere ready.

one solution that I thought should be much easier, is to just embed the kpart
in an entirely new applications.

There is this super cool app https://github.com/Swordfish90/cool-retro-term
which is actually based on Konsole, with some very impressive effects.

so we could be taking example from him, use his
https://github.com/Swordfish90/qmltermwidget and make a superlight app with
decent split screen based on Konsole.

I think that's pretty much the two ways to go around it.

pick your poison, I'll be happy to help as well, but I can't take this alone.

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Drew Lustro via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #37 from Drew Lustro  ---
I was just beginning to fall in love with KDE Neon (and Konsole, for that
matter). I encountered this "feature" and thought it was a bug. This report
verifies that I am not alone. This behavior is unexpected and far less useful
than splitting the terminal window with a new session.

I would also like to help out on this problem, but do not know where to begin.
Maintainers, please advise. Thanks.

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[konsole] [Bug 178320] Konsole split view: in both views same content

[Praise via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #36 from Praise  ---
I'd like to help this too, as the current behaviour is total nonsense.

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