[kwin] [Bug 379410] Window tab dragging has no effect

2017-05-02 Thread Bill Michaelson
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379410

--- Comment #4 from Bill Michaelson  ---
(In reply to Martin Gräßlin from comment #3)
> We currently don't have any time line on it. With all of GTK going to CSD
> I'm not even sure it makes sense to add it as it means a weird user
> experience (why can't I add Libreoffice?)

I'm not always sure what weird means, but I understand utility.  I currently
cannot group knotes windows with each other or with other windows because they
eschew window manager decorations.  I don't regard it as weird, but rather, a
feature of that particular application which I have accepted.  Still, grouping
with window tabs is immensely convenient for dynamically reorganizing elements
of my workspace, which typically includes xterms or emacs frames and is a key
part of the workflow I have become accustomed to.

Now I'm just coming up to speed on this and I had to go learn what CSD means. 
And I'm bewildered.  What is the point of having a window manager if not to
provide a consistent user interface for managing windows?  It would seem that
the placement, sizing and grouping of windows is its core responsibility, and
only very exceptional applications should reasonably override WM preferences. 
I haven't thought through all of the implications, but I would be OK with a
heavy-handed approach that encapsulated a window with CSD within a WM frame, if
only to restore functionality I find extremely useful.  And yeah, that could be
weird...  but I prefer ugly and weird to broken.

Just my thoughts.

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[kwin] [Bug 379410] Window tab dragging has no effect

2017-05-02 Thread Martin Gräßlin
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379410

--- Comment #3 from Martin Gräßlin  ---
> Ah, I see that now, thank you.  Is there an issue that I may track to be
> informed about when this regression is fixed?  I've been running KDE 4 for
> the past year because of this missing feature.

We currently don't have any time line on it. With all of GTK going to CSD I'm
not even sure it makes sense to add it as it means a weird user experience (why
can't I add Libreoffice?)

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[kwin] [Bug 379410] Window tab dragging has no effect

2017-05-02 Thread Bill Michaelson
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379410

Bill Michaelson  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||kde...@bill.from.net

--- Comment #2 from Bill Michaelson  ---
(In reply to Martin Gräßlin from comment #1)
> Window tab support is currently not implemented as listed in
> https://community.kde.org/Plasma/5.9_Errata#Missing_features

Ah, I see that now, thank you.  Is there an issue that I may track to be
informed about when this regression is fixed?  I've been running KDE 4 for the
past year because of this missing feature.

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[kwin] [Bug 379410] Window tab dragging has no effect

2017-05-02 Thread Martin Gräßlin
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=379410

Martin Gräßlin  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |LATER
Version|unspecified |5.9.5
   Assignee|mgraess...@kde.org  |kwin-bugs-n...@kde.org
  Component|general |decorations
Product|frameworks-kwindowsystem|kwin
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #1 from Martin Gräßlin  ---
Window tab support is currently not implemented as listed in
https://community.kde.org/Plasma/5.9_Errata#Missing_features

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