[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[Bruno Friedmann via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359850

--- Comment #27 from Bruno Friedmann  ---
I think it is more linked to the way gnome (also xfce lxde) are now creating 
/var/cache/gio-2.0/[desktop]-mimeapps.list

for example the beginning of gnome is
# generated by suse-update-mime-defaults from /etc/gnome_defaults.conf
[Default Applications]
application/clarisworks=writer.desktop
application/csv=calc.desktop

in /etc/gnome_defaults.conf we have
# This list is a source for defaults.list.
#
# If application in this list is installed, it is used as default in GNOME.
# It works in following way:
# 1. Read this file.
# 2. Collect all available desktop files.
# 3. Go through all declared MIME types and search for default application
#for defaults.list in following order:
# 3.1 Installed application listed here for certain MIME type.
# 3.2 Installed application listed here as preferred default.
# 3.3 Installed application listed here as default.
# 3.4 Installed application with GNOME in Categories.
# 3.5 Installed application with GTK in Categories.
# 3.6 Installed application.
# If there are more applications in the same order, it uses pseudo-randomly
# one of them (last in aplhabetical order).
#
# Syntax:
# Use xxx as default for all MIME types it declares (see 3.3):
# xxx.desktop
# Use xxx as preferred default for all MIME types it declares (see 3.2):
# !xxx.desktop
# Use xxx as default for mime/type (see 3.1):
# mime/type=xxx.desktop

# URI schemes
x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop
x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop
.

I remember (but didn't yet find again) a discussion in the -factory ml
reporting a misbehavior of kde
if certain files ( certainly *mime* related).

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[David Faure via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359850

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 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME
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--- Comment #26 from David Faure  ---
Amazing. So this really did look like a bad patch by the OpenSUSE packagers

Closing the bug, since you guys can't reproduce the bug anymore.
Feel free to reopen it if it in fact still happens.

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[thnielsen via KDE Bugzilla]

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

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--- Comment #24 from bjoe...@arcor.de ---
I do not have this bug in latest openSUSE Tumbleweed snapshot (20160305). Is
the bug already fixed?

KDE-Plasma-Version: 5.5.4 (with some 5.5.5 packages)
Qt: 5.5.1

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[Florian Röhrer via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #25 from Florian Röhrer  ---
I think so, because i do not have it either. I just wanted to answer David's
last question.

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[Florian Röhrer via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #23 from Florian Röhrer  ---
@David
sorry for my late response, i was quite busy the last days. I am really sorry
for the change of "variables" :(
`kcmshell5 componentchooser` from the terminal simply opens the
componentchooser window without any return from the terminal.

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[Jiri Slaby via KDE Bugzilla]

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[Ian via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #22 from Ian  ---
The mime files i found by :- find . -name "*mime*" in my home directory
./.kde4/share/config/mimeapps.list
./.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
./.local/share/akonadi/db_data/akonadi/mimetypetable.ibd
./.local/share/akonadi/db_data/akonadi/collectionmimetyperelation.ibd
./.local/share/akonadi/db_data/akonadi/mimetypetable.frm
./.local/share/akonadi/db_data/akonadi/collectionmimetyperelation.frm
./.config/mimeapps.list
./.mozilla/firefox/22vtey90.default/mimeTypes.rdf

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[David Faure via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #21 from David Faure  ---
Git commit 622a6d0a5a79c7919032c82e8e01127d8a4d1cdc by David Faure.
Committed on 28/02/2016 at 19:32.
Pushed by dfaure into branch 'master'.

componentchooser-filemanager: clean out any kde-mimeapps.list which would take
precedence any cancel our changes.

M  +27   -5kcms/componentchooser/componentchooserfilemanager.cpp

http://commits.kde.org/plasma-desktop/622a6d0a5a79c7919032c82e8e01127d8a4d1cdc

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[David Faure via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #20 from David Faure  ---
Git commit 84e697f877e7cab2767b75448106b7e5abf27b10 by David Faure.
Committed on 28/02/2016 at 19:31.
Pushed by dfaure into branch 'master'.

keditfiletype: clean out any kde-mimeapps.list which would take precedence any
cancel our changes.

M  +22   -3keditfiletype/mimetypedata.cpp

http://commits.kde.org/kde-cli-tools/84e697f877e7cab2767b75448106b7e5abf27b10

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[David Faure via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359850

--- Comment #19 from David Faure  ---
Argh, don't change other "variables" in the middle of debugging :-)

I wonder if the environment is different in GUI apps and in your terminal
(starting `kcmshell5 componentchooser` from the same terminal would be a way to
find out), but as long as you can't reproduce the bug anymore we can't do
anything else.

It made me discover one bug (kde-mimeapps.list not cleaned up) and one possible
improvement (ksycoca check on app startup should also check the timestamp of
all mimeapps.list files), but from the above discussion, none of these were the
actual problem, so I'm afraid there's still an underlying bug in kservice :(

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[Florian Röhrer via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359850

--- Comment #18 from Florian Röhrer  ---
I know they did not change anything. Thats why this is so strange. 

Florian@linux-vaio:~> qtpaths --locate-files GenericDataLocation
applications/kde-mimeapps.list

Florian@linux-vaio:~> qtpaths --locate-files GenericDataLocation
applications/mimeapps.list
/home/Florian/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list:/usr/share/applications/mimeapps.list
Florian@linux-vaio:~> 

I just saw that my system did an update about 2 hours ago. Maybe the OpenSUSE
maintainers did something wrong, but now it works.

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[David Faure via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #17 from David Faure  ---
Florian: My commands only query stuff, they didn't change anything ;)
(kbuildsycoca5 might have, but it's also what the GUI does, in theory)

Your qtpaths is too old to support ApplicationsLocation unfortunately so try
this instead
qtpaths --locate-files GenericDataLocation applications/kde-mimeapps.list
qtpaths --locate-files GenericDataLocation applications/mimeapps.list

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[Florian Röhrer via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #16 from Florian Röhrer  ---
I cant tell why, but now the setting works just fine. I did not change anything
but typing in the commands you wanted...strange

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[Florian Röhrer via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #15 from Florian Röhrer  ---
Hi David, 
there is no ~/.config/kde-mimeapps.list

The demanded commands return:

Florian@linux-vaio:~> echo $XDG_CONFIG_HOME

Florian@linux-vaio:~> echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
KDE
Florian@linux-vaio:~> qtpaths --locate-files GenericConfigLocation
kde-mimeapps.list

Florian@linux-vaio:~> qtpaths --locate-files GenericConfigLocation
mimeapps.list
/home/Florian/.config/mimeapps.list
Florian@linux-vaio:~> qtpaths --locate-files ApplicationsLocation
kde-mimeapps.list
Unknown location: ApplicationsLocation
Florian@linux-vaio:~> qtpaths --locate-files ApplicationsLocation mimeapps.list 
Unknown location: ApplicationsLocation

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[David Faure via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #14 from David Faure  ---
I can indeed reproduce the behaviours described here when a
~/.config/kde-mimeapps.list file exists, because it takes precedence over
~/.config/mimeapps.list even though that's where the GUI writes out changes. So
changes don't stick. I'll think of a solution to fix that. But I'd still like
to know if this is what you're hitting :-)

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[David Faure via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #13 from David Faure  ---
(In reply to Ian from comment #11)
> It references a dialog where you is says "click Add in the dialogue show
> here" which assumes the dialogue box is already open but its not,  there is
> only a "button" on the far right with 3 dots on it which does display the
> dialogue when pressed - is this the correct way it should work?

The point is:
1) click on the 3-dots button
2) a dialog appears
3) click "Add..." in *that* dialog, to select a new app
4) it will then appear in the initial kcontrol module

Somewhat suboptimal, but off topic for this bug :)

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[David Faure via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #12 from David Faure  ---
The file manager change not sticking is a manifestation of the same bug.
Discrepancy between saving and loading (new setting saved, old setting loaded).
The two kcontrol modules have different saving code, but the loading code is
the same.

Florian: the syntax $FOO refers to environment variable. To check if an env var
is set, do
  echo $XDG_CONFIG_HOME
in a terminal (I expect this one to be empty)

Does `echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP` show "KDE" ?

Is there a ~/.config/kde-mimeapps.list maybe?

What do these commands return?
qtpaths --locate-files GenericConfigLocation kde-mimeapps.list
qtpaths --locate-files GenericConfigLocation mimeapps.list
qtpaths --locate-files ApplicationsLocation kde-mimeapps.list
qtpaths --locate-files ApplicationsLocation mimeapps.list

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[Ian via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #11 from Ian  ---
Another question about selecting "Other" in the File Manger default app
association
It references a dialog where you is says "click Add in the dialogue show here"
which assumes the dialogue box is already open but its not,  there is only a
"button" on the far right with 3 dots on it which does display the dialogue
when pressed - is this the correct way it should work?

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[Ian via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #10 from Ian  ---
I've now tried my other users but there's a problem.  If i go back into the
inode bit and change the "Application Preference Order" list to put gwenview
back on top, as soon as i press apply, it puts dolphin back on top of the list
in the dialog so i can't change the order of appearance in order to test the
"File Manager" change. This probably explains why it works in my previous
comment as i didn;t check the order in the list when i changed it.

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[Ian via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #9 from Ian  ---
(In reply to David Faure from comment #4)
> OK, in my tests it works but I have a very different environment. Can you
> help me debug this remotely?
> 
> Please revert to the situation where it's broken, e.g. by deleting/renaming
> ~/.config/mimeapps.list  and ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list. Make
> sure it's broken again, then let's debug ;)
> 
> When you select dolphin in the control center, what gets written into
> ~/.config/mimeapps.list ?
> What is the first offer in `ktraderclient5 --mimetype inode/directory` ?
>[I just improved that tool so that next time the output is much shorter]
> What program opens if you run `kde-open5 .` in a terminal ?
> If that works, what action do you use, which results in the wrong
> filemanager opening?

I did the work around of re-ordering of the file manager options to put dolphin
at the top and all worked fine.  I've now reverted the list to make gwenview at
the top. When i now select Dolphin (second on the list) from the list and press
apply, the change now sticks quite happily. SO i can no longer get it to go
wrong on this user, i will try the other users to see if i can get it to go
wrong.

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[Florian Röhrer via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359850

--- Comment #8 from Florian Röhrer  ---
kde-open5 . starts Nautilus, too. 
If i run kbuildsycoca5 manually, i get the following output:

Florian@linux-vaio:~> kbuildsycoca5
kbuildsycoca5 running...
Reusing existing ksycoca
Recreating ksycoca file
("/home/Florian/.cache/ksycoca5_de_eUqES8aVpgaKYzFUhUwmGK10wyE=", version 303)
Still in the time dict (i.e. deleted files) ("apps")
Menu "applications-kmenuedit.menu" not found.
Saving

Folder are still opened with nautilus after doing so...

What do you mean with this question?

* is $XDG_CONFIG_HOME set? (I guess not, which is fine, just wanted to check)

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[David Faure via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359850

--- Comment #7 from David Faure  ---
The command was `kde-open5 .` , i.e. with a directory like "." as argument. But
given the ktraderclient5 results, it will open Nautilus. OK so the problem is
the reading of mimeapps.list when updating sycoca.

* is $XDG_CONFIG_HOME set? (I guess not, which is fine, just wanted to check)
* does it help if you run kbuildsycoca5, after mimeapps.list got modified, and
before running ktraderclient5 or kde-open5 ?

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[Florian Röhrer via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #6 from Florian Röhrer  ---
If i click on a folder, Nautilus opens

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[Florian Röhrer via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #5 from Florian Röhrer  ---
Ok, i changed the setting in file association - inode- directory back to the
setting it was before (files). Like before folders are opened with nautilus
now. The file ~/.config/mimeapps.list is now:

[Added Associations]
inode/directory=org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop;org.kde.dolphin.desktop;pcmanfm.desktop;kde4-kfmclient_dir.desktop;

[Default Applications]
inode/directory=org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop;


chosing Dolphin as standard application for folders changes the file as
following:

[Added Associations]
inode/directory=org.kde.dolphin.desktop;org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop;pcmanfm.desktop;kde4-kfmclient_dir.desktop;

[Default Applications]
inode/directory=org.kde.dolphin.desktop;

but nevertheless folders are opened in Nautilus. The setting takes no effect.
if i open KDE Control Center, the option (thats the option for Nautilus) is
checked again. 

ktraderclient gives the following output:

Florian@linux-vaio:~> ktraderclient5 --mimetype inode/directory
mimetype is : inode/directory
got 9 offers.
 Offer 0 
Request for unknown property "DBusActivatable"
Invalid property DBusActivatable
StartupNotify : 'TRUE'
Request for unknown property "X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Bugzilla"
Invalid property X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Bugzilla
Request for unknown property "X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Component"
Invalid property X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Component
Request for unknown property "X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Product"
Invalid property X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Product
Request for unknown property "X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Version"
Invalid property X-GNOME-Bugzilla-Version
Request for unknown property "X-GNOME-UsesNotifications"
Invalid property X-GNOME-UsesNotifications
Request for unknown property "X-SuSE-translate"
Invalid property X-SuSE-translate
Type : 'Application'
Name : 'Dateien'
Comment : 'Auf Dateien zugreifen und diese organisieren'
Invalid property GenericName
Icon : 'system-file-manager'
Exec : 'nautilus --new-window %U'
Terminal : 'FALSE'
Invalid property TerminalOptions
Invalid property Path
ServiceTypes : 'inode/directory - application/x-gnome-saved-search -
Application'
AllowAsDefault : 'TRUE'
InitialPreference : '1'
Invalid property Library
DesktopEntryPath : '/usr/share/applications/org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop'
DesktopEntryName : 'org.gnome.nautilus'
Keywords : 'Ordner - Verwaltung - Laufwerk - Festplatte - Dateisystem -
Dateien'
FormFactors : ''
Categories : 'GNOME - GTK - Utility - Core - FileManager'
 Offer 1 
Request for unknown property "UntranslatedGenericName"
Invalid property UntranslatedGenericName
X-DBUS-ServiceName : 'org.kde.dolphin'
X-DocPath : 'dolphin/index.html'
Type : 'Application'
Name : 'Dolphin'
Invalid property Comment
GenericName : 'Dateiverwaltung'
Icon : 'system-file-manager'
Exec : 'dolphin %u'
Terminal : 'FALSE'
Invalid property TerminalOptions
Invalid property Path
ServiceTypes : 'inode/directory - Application'
AllowAsDefault : 'TRUE'
InitialPreference : '10'
Invalid property Library
DesktopEntryPath : '/usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop'
DesktopEntryName : 'org.kde.dolphin'
Keywords : ''
FormFactors : ''
Categories : 'Qt - KDE - System - FileManager'
 Offer 2 
StartupNotify : 'TRUE'
Request for unknown property "UntranslatedGenericName"
Invalid property UntranslatedGenericName
Request for unknown property "X-SuSE-translate"
Invalid property X-SuSE-translate
Type : 'Application'
Name : 'PCManFM Dateimanager'
Comment : 'Das Dateisystem durchsuchen und Dateien verwalten'
GenericName : 'Dateimanager'
Icon : 'system-file-manager'
Exec : 'pcmanfm %U'
Terminal : 'FALSE'
Invalid property TerminalOptions
Invalid property Path
ServiceTypes : 'inode/directory - Application'
AllowAsDefault : 'TRUE'
InitialPreference : '1'
Invalid property Library
DesktopEntryPath : '/usr/share/applications/pcmanfm.desktop'
DesktopEntryName : 'pcmanfm'
Keywords : ''
FormFactors : ''
Categories : 'System - FileManager - Utility - Core - GTK - Application -
System'
 Offer 3 
NoDisplay : 'TRUE'
Type : 'Application'
Name : 'Konqueror'
Invalid property Comment
Invalid property GenericName
Icon : 'konqueror'
Exec : 'kfmclient openURL %u inode/directory'
Terminal : 'FALSE'
Invalid property TerminalOptions
Invalid property Path
ServiceTypes : 'inode/directory - Application'
AllowAsDefault : 'TRUE'
InitialPreference : '9'
Invalid property Library
DesktopEntryPath : '/usr/share/applications/kde4/kfmclient_dir.desktop'
DesktopEntryName : 'kfmclient_dir'
Keywords : ''
FormFactors : ''
Categories : 'Qt - KDE - System'
 Offer 4 
Request for unknown property "UntranslatedGenericName"
Invalid property UntranslatedGenericName
X-DBUS-ServiceName : 'org.kde.gwenview'
X-DocPath : 'gwenview/index.html'
Type : 'Application'
Name : 'Gwenview'
Comment : 'Ein einfacher Bildbetrachter'
GenericName : 'KDE-Bildbetrachter'
Icon : 'gwenview'
Exec : 'gwenview %U'
Terminal : 'FALSE'
Invalid property TerminalOptions
Invalid property Path

[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[David Faure via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359850

David Faure  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |ASSIGNED

--- Comment #4 from David Faure  ---
OK, in my tests it works but I have a very different environment. Can you help
me debug this remotely?

Please revert to the situation where it's broken, e.g. by deleting/renaming
~/.config/mimeapps.list  and ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list. Make
sure it's broken again, then let's debug ;)

When you select dolphin in the control center, what gets written into
~/.config/mimeapps.list ?
What is the first offer in `ktraderclient5 --mimetype inode/directory` ?
   [I just improved that tool so that next time the output is much shorter]
What program opens if you run `kde-open5 .` in a terminal ?
If that works, what action do you use, which results in the wrong filemanager
opening?

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[Ian via KDE Bugzilla]

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Ian  changed:

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 CC||ianse...@yahoo.co.uk

--- Comment #3 from Ian  ---
*** Bug 359794 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Florian Röhrer via KDE Bugzilla]

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--- Comment #2 from Florian Röhrer  ---
Thanks for your response. This workaround is working for me. But nevertheless
it should be possible to choose Dolphin as File Manager in standard
applications.

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[Bruno Friedmann via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359850

Bruno Friedmann  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Bruno Friedmann  ---
If you go to file associations -> inode -> directory change the order to use
dolphin.

Then in Default application Dolphin is checked and place in first position.
Look like the default application had becomed a viewer of file association.

Mostly this is linked to the introduction of MimeApps

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[systemsettings] [Bug 359850] Dolphin as default File Manager not possible

[David Edmundson via KDE Bugzilla]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359850

David Edmundson  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Component|general |kcm_filetypes
   Assignee|k...@davidedmundson.co.uk|fa...@kde.org
   Target Milestone|1.0 |---
Product|plasmashell |systemsettings

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