Re: [kopete-devel] chat window

2009-05-13 Thread Serhiy Kachaniuk
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Pablo Montepagano:
 In Kopete offline messages ---at least in MSN protocol-- don't show the time
 of their sending, but rather the time in which you receive it (i.e., when
 you log back in). It makes it a bit confusing, because you don't know if the
 sender is talking to you right now or if it's an offline message that has
 arrived.
Then it ids protocol specific. In jabber offline messages have their
sending time
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Re: [kopete-devel] chat window

2009-05-13 Thread Daniel Pelzl

Hi,

where are the themes stored?

I do it by myself.

Thanks,

Daniel

Dhaval Patel wrote:

Whoa, I see your point. All the default themes have time only.

http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=87567

You can use the one I created, it looks like Gaim and shows you the date_time in
a tooltip when you hover over a message. You can also hack one of the existing
themes to show this information. I believe the Date is %F. For instance, I use
%time{%F_%H:%M:%S}%.


Thanks,
Dhaval

Daniel Pelzl pe...@gmx.net wrote: 

  

Hi,

which themes you mean?

My themes dont do that.

Perhaps i have to install one?

Dhaval Patel wrote:


Perhaps I am misunderstanding your question but there are different themes
  

which
  
show you this information in different formats. 



Daniel Pelzl pe...@gmx.net wrote: 

  
  

Hi,

how to not only add the time but also the date to the messages in the 
chat window?


I think it could be useful.

Thanks

Bye,

Daniel
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Re: [kopete-devel] chat window

2009-05-13 Thread Daniel Pelzl

~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/styles/

and

~/.kde4/share/apps/kopete/styles/

are empty :/

Dhaval Patel wrote:

~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/styles/



Daniel Pelzl pe...@gmx.net wrote: 

  

Hi,

where are the themes stored?

I do it by myself.

Thanks,

Daniel

Dhaval Patel wrote:


Whoa, I see your point. All the default themes have time only.

http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=87567

You can use the one I created, it looks like Gaim and shows you the date_time
  

in
  

a tooltip when you hover over a message. You can also hack one of the
  

existing
  

themes to show this information. I believe the Date is %F. For instance, I
  

use
  

%time{%F_%H:%M:%S}%.


Thanks,
Dhaval

Daniel Pelzl pe...@gmx.net wrote: 

  
  

Hi,

which themes you mean?

My themes dont do that.

Perhaps i have to install one?

Dhaval Patel wrote:



Perhaps I am misunderstanding your question but there are different themes
  
  

which
  
  
show you this information in different formats. 



Daniel Pelzl pe...@gmx.net wrote: 

  
  
  

Hi,

how to not only add the time but also the date to the messages in the 
chat window?


I think it could be useful.

Thanks

Bye,

Daniel
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Re: [kopete-devel] chat window

2009-05-12 Thread Dhaval Patel
Perhaps I am misunderstanding your question but there are different themes which
show you this information in different formats. 


Daniel Pelzl pe...@gmx.net wrote: 

Hi,

how to not only add the time but also the date to the messages in the 
chat window?

I think it could be useful.

Thanks

Bye,

Daniel
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Re: [kopete-devel] chat window

2009-05-12 Thread Daniel Pelzl

Hi,

which themes you mean?

My themes dont do that.

Perhaps i have to install one?

Dhaval Patel wrote:

Perhaps I am misunderstanding your question but there are different themes which
show you this information in different formats. 



Daniel Pelzl pe...@gmx.net wrote: 

  

Hi,

how to not only add the time but also the date to the messages in the 
chat window?


I think it could be useful.

Thanks

Bye,

Daniel
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Re: [kopete-devel] chat window

2009-05-12 Thread Dhaval Patel
Whoa, I see your point. All the default themes have time only.

http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=87567

You can use the one I created, it looks like Gaim and shows you the date_time in
a tooltip when you hover over a message. You can also hack one of the existing
themes to show this information. I believe the Date is %F. For instance, I use
%time{%F_%H:%M:%S}%.


Thanks,
Dhaval

Daniel Pelzl pe...@gmx.net wrote: 

Hi,

which themes you mean?

My themes dont do that.

Perhaps i have to install one?

Dhaval Patel wrote:
 Perhaps I am misunderstanding your question but there are different themes
which
 show you this information in different formats. 


 Daniel Pelzl pe...@gmx.net wrote: 

   
 Hi,

 how to not only add the time but also the date to the messages in the 
 chat window?

 I think it could be useful.

 Thanks

 Bye,

 Daniel
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Re: [kopete-devel] chat window

2009-05-12 Thread Detlev Casanova
On Tuesday 12 May 2009 20:45:19 Dhaval Patel wrote:
 Whoa, I see your point. All the default themes have time only.

 http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=87567

 You can use the one I created, it looks like Gaim and shows you the
 date_time in a tooltip when you hover over a message. You can also hack one
 of the existing themes to show this information. I believe the Date is
 %F. For instance, I use %time{%F_%H:%M:%S}%.

Shouldn't all themes be updated so they all show the date too ?
In Psi, th date is shown only for offline messages (messages that are stored on 
the server and that you receive when you connect to it). I don't know if 
that's possible though.

Cheers,

Detlev.


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Re: [kopete-devel] chat window

2009-05-12 Thread Dhaval Patel
Well, I think most of the themes only show time because of space constraints. If
you look at my theme, I did not want any of that in the normal view, the user
can hover over a particular item and get the timestamp info if they wish.


Detlev Casanova detlev.casan...@gmail.com wrote: 

On Tuesday 12 May 2009 20:45:19 Dhaval Patel wrote:
 Whoa, I see your point. All the default themes have time only.

 http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=87567

 You can use the one I created, it looks like Gaim and shows you the
 date_time in a tooltip when you hover over a message. You can also hack one
 of the existing themes to show this information. I believe the Date is
 %F. For instance, I use %time{%F_%H:%M:%S}%.

Shouldn't all themes be updated so they all show the date too ?
In Psi, th date is shown only for offline messages (messages that are stored on

the server and that you receive when you connect to it). I don't know if 
that's possible though.

Cheers,

Detlev.
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Re: [kopete-devel] chat window

2009-05-12 Thread Pablo Montepagano
In Kopete offline messages ---at least in MSN protocol-- don't show the time
of their sending, but rather the time in which you receive it (i.e., when
you log back in). It makes it a bit confusing, because you don't know if the
sender is talking to you right now or if it's an offline message that has
arrived.

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 16:46, Dhaval Patel dha...@patel.sh wrote:

 Well, I think most of the themes only show time because of space
 constraints. If
 you look at my theme, I did not want any of that in the normal view, the
 user
 can hover over a particular item and get the timestamp info if they wish.


 Detlev Casanova detlev.casan...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tuesday 12 May 2009 20:45:19 Dhaval Patel wrote:
  Whoa, I see your point. All the default themes have time only.
 
  http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=87567
 
  You can use the one I created, it looks like Gaim and shows you the
  date_time in a tooltip when you hover over a message. You can also hack
 one
  of the existing themes to show this information. I believe the Date is
  %F. For instance, I use %time{%F_%H:%M:%S}%.
 
 Shouldn't all themes be updated so they all show the date too ?
 In Psi, th date is shown only for offline messages (messages that are
 stored on

 the server and that you receive when you connect to it). I don't know if
 that's possible though.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Detlev.
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Re: [kopete-devel] Chat window : video API

2009-02-12 Thread Matt Rogers
On Thursday 12 February 2009 18:41:35 Detlev Casanova wrote:
 Hey,
 I made some thinking about how it would be nice to hadle video (a. k. a.
 video chat) in Kopete.
 Looking at Windows Live Messenger official client, Video is embedded into
 the chat window and you can't (apparently) hide it. It's a good idea
 because you can see only the person you are talking to and you don't have a
 lot of windows on your desktop.
 In aMSN, video is shown in another window. It's a good idea because you can
 have all video windows on top of other windows so you can see everybody at
 the same time.
 In Kopete, it seems that each protocol (currently, just Yahoo) has to
 manage that itself (by showing a video window like the old MSN plugin did)

 Mixing both ideas brings me to this : the video could be shown in a
 QDockWidget (or similar if there is one in kdelibs) created by the chat
 window so the Video could be attached to the chat window or floating all
 alone in it's own window.

 The API could be as simple as
 // Show the video widget, maybe remembering last QDockWidget::isFloating()
 // (Webcam chat has started)
 void showVideo();
 // Hide the video widget (webcam chat is finished)
 void hideVideo();
 // Set a QImage in the video widget (channel = Local for local video,
 // Remote for remote video)
 void setImage(const QImage img, Channel c);

 That last one could be split in setLocalImage() and setRemoteImage(), it
 doesn't really matters.
 Of course, this QDockWidget could also get buttons to stop/start/pause
 video.

 Some other ideas I had :
  * Resizing the video window would resize the video (keeping ratio ?)
  * When closing the chat window : do we stop video or just detach the
 QDockWidget (would it still be there when the chat window is closed ?) ?
   For this point, both aMSN and WLM stop the video chat.
  * The widget could also manage everything related to audio chat (keeping
 stop/start/pause buttons but with a nice voice icon)
  * In WLM, the video can be resized in 3 different sizes, that could be
 used too.
  * Video could be shown everywhere the contact photo is shown (even thought
 it might be a little bit annoying seeing the video one more time each time
 a message is received.)
  * You might ask Why not using Phonon for all that ? Well, Phonon can't
 handle showing video (neither playing sound) from a buffer if it's not a
 QFile.

 So, I think that's pretty much it.

 Cheers,
 Detlev Casanova.


Work up a patch and put it on the reviewboard.

Thanks
--
Matt
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