KR> Update, fiberglassing Rt. Wing

[Robert7721]

Looking good Paul!  Hopefully you can get away with minimal sanding and 
filling, but don't be concerned if it is not perfect. Sanding and filling 
builds "Character". Plus stronger arms of course. 



Rob Schmitt



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Sent: Sat, Dec 10, 2016 3:05 pm
Subject: KR> Update, fiberglassing Rt. Wing

Doing the final prep to fiberglass the top of my rt. wing.  I made a heat box 
to cover the entirewing. So the winter isn't going to slow me down. In this 
pic, I'm checking and sanding were needed the spars to make sure I don't end up 
with any infamous KR bumps.Paul Visk Belleville 
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KR> Update, fiberglassing Rt. Wing

[Paul Visk]

Doing the final prep to fiberglass the top of my rt. wing. ?I made a heat box 
to cover the entirewing. So the winter isn't going to slow me down.?In this 
pic, I'm checking and sanding were needed the spars to make sure I don't end up 
with any infamous KR bumps.

Paul Visk?Belleville Il.
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KR> KR update

[Mike Sylvester]

With the help of friends, My girl is tucked in to her new home at ASN, 
Talladega, Al. Also while looking at the Gathering attendee list, I read the 
name Max Power, Is this the coolest name ever or what ? We need name tags, I've 
got to meet this guy. Maybe over a root beer.


Mike Sylvester
kr2s builder
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854

KR> KR update

[Jeff Scott]

Man, I'm thinking 220 wet, a good rubber sanding block, and a bucket of water 
are going to be your best friends for a while. :o)? Yep.? You're gonna hate 
sanding after working that stuff out.  We'll let you sing a solo after this.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM
?

Sent:?Monday, June 20, 2016 at 12:09 PM
From:?"Mike Sylvester via KRnet" 
To:?KRnet 
Cc:?"Mike Sylvester" 
Subject:?KR> KR update
Ok Guys, I have taken the week off to sand the primer and paint the plane. Let 
me start by saying that something I thought was a good thing in the past has 
come back to bite me. In the building process as I finished a part of the plane 
I would prime it by rolling on 2 part epoxy high fill primer, yes I said, roll 
it on with little foam rollers. This leaves a slight orange peel texture and 
this stuff is killer to sand down to smooth. What I thought I could do in two 
days is going to take all week. I hope we sing the sanding song at the 
gathering because I am definitely earning the right to sing it, Hell, I might 
even lead the thing.


Mike Sylvester
kr2s builder
Birmingham,AL.

KR> KR update

[Mike Sylvester]

Ok Guys, I have taken the week off to sand the primer and paint the plane. Let 
me start by saying that something I thought was a good thing in the past has 
come back to bite me. In the building process as I finished a part of the plane 
I would prime it by rolling on 2 part epoxy high fill primer, yes I said, roll 
it on with little foam rollers. This leaves a slight orange peel texture and 
this stuff is killer to sand down to smooth. What I thought I could do in two 
days is going to take all week. I hope we sing the sanding song at the 
gathering because I am definitely earning the right to sing it, Hell, I might 
even lead the thing.


Mike Sylvester
kr2s builder
Birmingham,AL.

Cell no.205-966-3854

KR> KR update

[Richard Dechau]

Mike I have used MEK in the past to smooth out orange peel in the past on
small parts. Never on the entire project. It works well and does not effect
the strength of any work under it. Rick
PS if you do this make sure it is well vented.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Mike Sylvester via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Ok Guys, I have taken the week off to sand the primer and paint the plane.
> Let me start by saying that something I thought was a good thing in the
> past has come back to bite me. In the building process as I finished a part
> of the plane I would prime it by rolling on 2 part epoxy high fill primer,
> yes I said, roll it on with little foam rollers. This leaves a slight
> orange peel texture and this stuff is killer to sand down to smooth. What I
> thought I could do in two days is going to take all week. I hope we sing
> the sanding song at the gathering because I am definitely earning the right
> to sing it, Hell, I might even lead the thing.
>
>
> Mike Sylvester
> kr2s builder
> Birmingham,AL.
>
> Cell no.205-966-3854
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KR> Update

[phillipmatheson at bigpond.com]

I have been very slack over the past 12 months but am slowly getting back into 
my kr2s. I mounted the engine (overhauled 0200) yesterday so I can start 
looking at cable lengths and instruments. I hope to get some photos out at some 
point.  The fuse is mostly complete. The wing spars are done. And the tanks and 
wings will be last to save hanger rash. They do get on the way when working.
Marry Christmas To you all. Have s save and happy new year.

phil Matheson 

Sent from my iPhone

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KR> update on the Dr. Dean plane

[Sid Wood]

Joe,
Really nice workmanship on the new KR, your shop reminds me of mine sans the 
TV.  I have not got my KR-2 out of Phase 1 testing and you are inspiring me 
to start on another, perhaps a KR-2S this time.  Anyone interested in a new, 
Phase 1 KR-2 with Great Plains 2180 VW and electronic displays?

Trying to get off the porch,

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
---
I have been doing a bit here and there to keep moving on the Dr. Dean custom 
KR. Today I finished shaping all the fairing foam to the tail group. Took me 
awhile thinking about it to decide how I wanted it to look. Not exactly how 
I wanted it to turn out but still will look pretty slick when it gets 
painted up. The turtle deck will be removable and an additional removable 
cover from over the rear control horn area. I also got it worked out so the 
fairing covers the hole that is needed for the elevator to travel up and 
down. That is a leak that i didn't want again. 5 or 6 hours today to do the 
same amount of work that took me weeks on the first plane.
Joe Horton,
Coopersburg Pa. 

KR> Update: 28 Days Now Until MMV...

[John Bouyea]

Welcome to Dave Mullins and Allan Fink, the latest 2 pilots to register for
the 2015 KR Gathering at McMinnville.
http://bouyea.net/KRGathering/index.html



You can sign up here
http://bouyea.net/KRGathering/web_pages/pre-reg-form2.html or, if you're
already registered, double-check your registration details on file.



We've had the driest summer anyone can recall in the Pacific Northwest. Our
long-range forecasts call for more dry weather so we're anticipating great
conditions for our Gathering. Hope to see you here!



Dan & John, Gathering Hosts



John Bouyea

N5391M/ KR2

OR81/ Hillsboro, OR

KR> Update on third class medical certificate reform

[Paul Visk]

KR> Update 1: 2015 KR Gathering @ MMV

[John Bouyea]

Ok, it?s time for an update! Dan Prichard & I met over the weekend and he wants 
to share some news with everyone. 



First off; Mark September 3 ? 6, 2015 on your calendar to join us at the 2015 
KR Gathering @ MMV.



The Gathering web site is here: http://krgathering.com Click the link to jump 
onto the 2015 Registration pages. Please do so if you haven?t already. We want 
to get an idea on the number of attendees who are thinking about coming, at 
least at this point. This isn?t a commitment, just a roll call.



We have several people who volunteered to host seminars including;

-Weight & Balance by Jeff Scott. I hope to have a full set of scales available 
for those who want to go through the process to update your numbers.

-Props Inc. presentation by the owner Jeff Bertuleit & his business site is:  
http://www.propsinc.net 

-Composites Handling Techniques by Mark Langford

-Panther aircraft and Corvair engine 5th Bearing  by developer Dan Weseman & 
his business site is: http://flywithspa.com 

If there is something YOU?D like to do, let us know and we?ll get with you to 
work out the details and get you on the event roster.



Other activity ideas include;

-The Saturday Night Banquet (of course!)

-Swap Meet/ table space

-Air-to-Air photo opportunity

-Local Airports Tour (there are over 10 airports within 25 miles of MMV)

-Group tour of the Evergreen Museum, home of the Spruce Goose 
http://evergreenmuseum.org/the-museum/aircraft-exhibits 

While these are easy and close-by, there many other things to do & see within 
30/ 60/ 90 minutes. 



Let us know your ideas on how to make this one of the ?best ever? KR Gatherings!



John Bouyea

N5391M/ KR2

OR81/ Hillsboro, OR

KR> update on my project

[Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM]

I joined photo bucket and uploaded all my KR photos to it  
http://s1291.photobucket.com/


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To: krnet 
Sent: Sun, Nov 9, 2014 3:55 pm
Subject: KR> update on my project

KR> update on my project

[Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM]

I hope this works kriiairpane at yahoogroups.com
Randy Moore

KR> update on my project

[Virgil N.Salisbury]

 Are not attachments good enough. What is this SIGN IN YAHOO I D 
STUFF, Virg


 On 11/9/2014 2:49 PM, Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM via KRnet wrote:
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/krIIairpane/photos/albums/769411823
>   
> I have added a new album to this group I put on yahoo
>
>
> Randy Moore
> Newbern Tn
> avid mark IV
> Challenger II
> KR II converting to single seat
> crashed Tbird I
> no1son38 at aol.com
> 731 589 1330
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KR> update on my project

[Randy Moore Newbern Tn. N318RM]

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/krIIairpane/photos/albums/769411823

I have added a new album to this group I put on yahoo  


Randy Moore
Newbern Tn
avid mark IV
Challenger II
KR II converting to single seat
crashed Tbird I
no1son38 at aol.com
731 589 1330

KR> update on my project

[stefkr2 at kpnmail.nl]

Wouw,
looks very nice...almost there.
Stef
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http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2




>Origineel Bericht
>Van : krnet at list.krnet.org
>Datum : 09/11/2014 03:22
>Aan : KRnet at list.krnet.org
>Onderwerp : KR> update on my project
>
>Hi Everyone,
>I added a few pics. to my photo bucket. I've been working real hard trying to 
>get everything finished up in my garage before I take it to my hanger. The 
>cooling system was somewhat of a challenge, but looking back, so has 
>everything else. The pressure cooling system seems to work well, I ran the 
>engine for a good hour at high and low RPM, with no heat problem.
>http://s449.photobucket.com/user/rkpsk1/library/
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KR> update on my project

[Dan Heath]

Looking like a "Grand Champion" in the making.



See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics 



Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 



Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN





Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC







 
http://s449.photobucket.com/user/rkpsk1/library/

KR> update on my project

[Robert Pesak]

Hi Everyone,
I added a few pics. to my photo bucket. I've been working real hard trying to 
get everything finished up in my garage before I take it to my hanger. The 
cooling system was somewhat of a challenge, but looking back, so has everything 
else. The pressure cooling system seems to work well, I ran the engine for a 
good hour at high and low RPM, with no heat problem.
http://s449.photobucket.com/user/rkpsk1/library/

KR> update

[joe.kr2s.builder at juno.com]

Hi everyone, I made my final landing for the day in mid Arknesaw.  Still 960 
miles from home. The weather was perfect all day, but the wind never did give 
any help. But not having a head wind at least ground speed and true air speed 
were the same. If I'm not foggged in in the morning I should be able to do one 
more stop and be home sometime mid afternoon. Thanks for all the memories.Joe 
Horton

The End of the Made-In-China Era
The impossible but real technology that could make you impossibly 
rich.
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KR> update

[Flesner]

At 08:28 PM 9/7/2014, you wrote:
>I made my final landing for the day in mid Arknesaw.



Joe,

That's just how they talk in that part of the country.  You're really 
in Arkansas.  Just wanted to let you know where you dropped in for 
the night so you can find your way home tomorrow . :-)

Larry Flesner

KR> ./ Update..

[Steve G.]

First KR to arrive, Jack Daugherty. !

Steve Glover

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 4, 2014, at 14:21, Rob Schmitt via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Rob Schmitt, Terry Chizek, and Paul Russell have made it to Jeff's.
> 
> My Kr is running fine considering the altitude.
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Flesner via KRnet  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I just got off the phone with Mark Langford and he has his problem resolved 
>> and intends to head to California, making it to the first fuel stop this 
>> evening.  Good luck Mark.
>> 
>> Joe made it to the second fuel stop and hopes to be in Los Alamos this 
>> evening.  Winds were so bad for Joe he had to shut off the engine and hand 
>> pull the KR to the fuel pump.  I checked the weather history at that stop 
>> and winds had continuos steady winds of 25+ /gusts to 38 mph .  Glad it 
>> worked out.
>> 
>> Larry Flesner
>> 
>> 
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KR> Update for my KR2$

[Adam Tippin]

Here is a rough view of my kr. I started building Nov. 2013. Its slow going
but I'm aiming for quality over speed.
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KR> Update

[Mark Jones]

Can anyone give us an update on Jack Cooper.


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> Update on Chugging Engine

[badbob0...@embarqmail.com]

One thing I haven?t seen mentioned (and is somewhat rare) is a worn cam lobe or 
a collapsed lifter.

Good luck!

Bob Johnson
Willamina, OR
(971) 645-9491
KR2SSW

KR> update on project

[sean duggan]

Hi Robert,

Thanks for posting the link to your photo bucket. I'm relatively new to the 
KR group (last 6 months or so) and haven't seen pictures of your build until 
today. I'm very impressed after viewing your photos, very clean work!

I noticed that your wing design branches out from the norm among other 
differences.  My plan is to build a stock wing, with the new airfoil, but I 
like 
how you built your wing separate from the fuselage on jig. There is not enough 
space in my garage to build my wings on the fuselage like the plans suggest. So 
I'm going to have to create a similar jig that will hold the spars while I 
construct the wing. Do you have any details and photos that you can share on 
how 
you built your wing jig?

Thanks,

 Sean Duggan
Vero Beach, FL
KR2S - http://n394ja.com/





From: "rkp...@comcast.net" <rkp...@comcast.net>
To: krnet <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 7:34:31 PM
Subject: KR> update on project



Hi Everyone, 

 I haven't had much time to update my photobucket. I'm trying to finish my 
panel 
I painted it and started to install the instruments for the final time. I took 
some pictures this afternoon and uploaded them. Hope to see you all in Oshkosh 
next month. 


Robert Pesak 

Hermitage, Tn. 

http://photobucket.com/robertskrs 
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KR> update on project

[rkp...@comcast.net]

Hi Everyone, 

 I haven't had much time to update my photobucket. I'm trying to finish my 
panel I painted it and started to install the instruments for the final time. I 
took some pictures this afternoon and uploaded them. Hope to see you all in 
Oshkosh next month. 

Robert Pesak 

Hermitage, Tn. 

http://photobucket.com/robertskrs 

KR> update

[oceanmanus]

Hello builders,
 Some of you may have seen my KR-2S blog on the nVaero forum. I have removed it 
because their forum is not active, and has become full of spam lately. Steve at 
nVaero is a really nice guy and they have a pretty good company, so, it is 
nothing personal at all. I just think it's best for me to create my own 
website. 
I'm also looking forward to buy products from them. I'm writing you all this, 
just in-case some of you are wondering why my blog is no longer there.

Joe Cygan

KR-2S (5% done)
North Texas

KR> Update

[Larry Knox]

Good luck and sympathies for your Disease, I haven't heard of any cure.
la...@lebanair.com  

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Of Dan Heath
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 4:52 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: KR> Update

I have been fighting my new brakes, getting them properly "bled".  For some
reason, they don't pump up from the bottom like the Rosenhan did.  PS: I
have a full set of Rosenhan (Matco) wheels, brakes, axles, and spacers for
the Diehl gear, for sale OFF NET.



So, knowing that I am going to make the forward deck removable, and move the
fuel to the wings, I decided to bite the bullet and "git er done".  Today, I
cut off the old deck and it appears that I am going to have to cut the tank
to get it out.  This tank has a Princeton Probe fuel sender, and all the
stuff that a header tank needs, and will go to some lucky builder, cheap,
when I get it out.



The next step is to remove the wings and cut them open , once I get the new
tanks built.  The plan is to fly to the Gathering on the VW, with new fuel
tanks, and change it out for the Corvair, soon after I get back, in hopes of
flying to the Corvair college in November, on Corvair power.  So, needless
to say, I will have a complete 2276 VW with all the trimmings, and I mean
ALL, from in front of the firewall, to the tip of the spinner, with very few
exceptions.  As good as this engine is running now, if I did not already
have the Corvair, I would just keep on flying it as I am not looking forward
to all this work in the 95 degree weather that we will have between now and
Gathering time.



So, I am sorry to say that, the time for building has begun again.  I must
be a sick puppy.



Daniel R. Heath

da...@windstream.net

See N64KR at  <http://krbuilder.org/> http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics 

See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39







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KR> Update

[Dan Heath]

DUH !!

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

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[mailto:krnet-bounces+danrh=windstream@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Virgil
N. Salisbury
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 10:20 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Update

Don't forget to do a new W/B before takeoff with the Corvair, 
Virg  


Dan Heath wrote:
> I have been fighting my new brakes, getting them properly "bled".  For
some
> reason, they don't pump up from the bottom like the Rosenhan did.  PS: I
> have a full set of Rosenhan (Matco) wheels, brakes, axles, and spacers for
> the Diehl gear, for sale OFF NET.
>
>  
>
>   

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KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Gavin Magill]

Hi Mike

Having just become part of a syndicate of pilot/builders who have purchased
a flying Sonex and also being a KR builder, I too have been having a very
close look at the way Sonex do a number of things and trying to work out
what could easily be transferred/adapted into my build.

The fuel header tank would certainly be one of the parts relatively easily
converted over to a KR. It is secured in the Sonex with two Aluminum
straps which fit into purpose made channels in the external moulding of the
tank so this should be fairly simple to secure in the KR. I guess so long as
you can get hold of one of the tanks then it would be possible to adapt it
for purpose although one thing you would need to make sure is that the width
of your boat will accomodate the tank.

Perhaps if you can befriend a local Sonex builder near where you live you
might be able to convince them to order a fuel tank for you rather than
forking out the $600 for a set of plans although I don't know how Sonex
would feel about that. It would certainly save a heap of time if you don't
want to fabricate a fuel tank yourself.

Gavin Magill
Auckland NZ



Mike Taglieri wrote:

> For the main tank, I've been wondering if the molded polyethylene tank used
> in the Sonex could be used in a KR, since it seems roughly the same size.
> Polyethylene is extremely durable, and is used in some dirt-bike gas tanks.
> Unfortunately, the Sonex website says they won't sell any parts to someone
> who isn't a registered buyer of their ~$600 plans.

KR> Update

[Virgil N. Salisbury]

Don't forget to do a new W/B before takeoff with the Corvair, 
Virg  


Dan Heath wrote:
> I have been fighting my new brakes, getting them properly "bled".  For some
> reason, they don't pump up from the bottom like the Rosenhan did.  PS: I
> have a full set of Rosenhan (Matco) wheels, brakes, axles, and spacers for
> the Diehl gear, for sale OFF NET.
>
>  
>
>   

KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Mike Taglieri]

For the main tank, I've been wondering if the molded polyethylene tank used 
in the Sonex could be used in a KR, since it seems roughly the same size. 
Polyethylene is extremely durable, and is used in some dirt-bike gas tanks. 
Unfortunately, the Sonex website says they won't sell any parts to someone 
who isn't a registered buyer of their ~$600 plans.  I assume this is to 
prevent someone from copying someone else's plans and building a Sonex on 
the sly, but it doesn't make much sense to prevent people who are obviously 
building something else from buying certain parts.

However, Sonex's engine division is willing to sell engines and engine parts 
to non-Sonex builders.  Their VW based engine is nothing special, but their 
"Aerocarb" seems to be an updated version of the Posa carb, but with good 
quality control and parts availability.

Mike Taglieri  miket--...@juno.com

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From: "Larry Knox" <la...@lebanair.com>
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks


Sorry Jeff, not trying to degrade your Knowledge or the owners
qualifications at all. I am sure you will find this a problem of one- Low
levels of Ethanol unobserved, Two- poor quality construction IE pin holes or
delamination of the glass. We are working on a Bonanza that never burned
auto fuel at any time, that is leaking in several places because of pin
holes and delamination. Sorry, la...@lebanair.com

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Of jscott.pi...@juno.com
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:09 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

This forum never ceases to amaze me.  I can observe the damage first
hand, interview
the owner and report exactly what he has told me knowing that he takes at
least
ordinary diligence in his fuel testing, do the repairs in my shop, and
post what
should be some useful information to the group.  Yet there is always
somebody
out there that will tell me I don't know what I'm looking at or that the
owner doesn't
know what he's doing.  It often times makes me wonder why I bother to
post
anything to this forum.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:17:55 -0800 "Larry Knox" <la...@lebanair.com>
writes:
> Mogas (Clear 92 Octane Unleaded) does not hurt any type of Glass or
Poly
> tanks. We carry and sell Mogas at the rate of several thousand Gal a
Month.
> The people that burn it have every kind of handmade tank you can use
and
> have never had a problem of any kind. The problem is ethanol whether
you
> knew you had it or not. I have used it and stored it for 15 years in
glass
> tanks in my spray business before we purchased this FBO 3 years ago and
> installed it here. We have never had a problem except one tank used by
an
> associate that had ethanol in it for less than a month.
> la...@lebanair.com

> Jeff wrote:
>
> I thought I would write an update to this discussion we had in early
October
> regarding polyester fuel tanks.  Especially since I referenced the
polyester
> tip tanks in the Cherokee 235 and Cherokee 6 aircraft as proof of
success
> using polyester resin for fuel tanks.  This week I have a Cherokee 235
in my
> shop and am rebuilding the tip tanks.  The owner bought the Peterson
Autogas
> STC 5 years ago and has been running Mogas in the these tanks for the
last 5
> years.  The owner also states that he has carefully tested for alcohol
every
> time he has purchased mogas to use in his plane, so these tanks have
never
> been exposed to alcohol.

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KR> Update

[Dan Heath]

I have been fighting my new brakes, getting them properly "bled".  For some
reason, they don't pump up from the bottom like the Rosenhan did.  PS: I
have a full set of Rosenhan (Matco) wheels, brakes, axles, and spacers for
the Diehl gear, for sale OFF NET.



So, knowing that I am going to make the forward deck removable, and move the
fuel to the wings, I decided to bite the bullet and "git er done".  Today, I
cut off the old deck and it appears that I am going to have to cut the tank
to get it out.  This tank has a Princeton Probe fuel sender, and all the
stuff that a header tank needs, and will go to some lucky builder, cheap,
when I get it out.



The next step is to remove the wings and cut them open , once I get the new
tanks built.  The plan is to fly to the Gathering on the VW, with new fuel
tanks, and change it out for the Corvair, soon after I get back, in hopes of
flying to the Corvair college in November, on Corvair power.  So, needless
to say, I will have a complete 2276 VW with all the trimmings, and I mean
ALL, from in front of the firewall, to the tip of the spinner, with very few
exceptions.  As good as this engine is running now, if I did not already
have the Corvair, I would just keep on flying it as I am not looking forward
to all this work in the 95 degree weather that we will have between now and
Gathering time.



So, I am sorry to say that, the time for building has begun again.  I must
be a sick puppy.



Daniel R. Heath

da...@windstream.net

See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics 

See you at the 2010 - KR Gathering in Richmond, Ky - I39

KR> Update KR2S N1852Z

[Larry H.]

Rob,
Your airplane still looks great, happy it is going again, and I love the 
landing 
photo with the cattle in the background but the American Flag photo is really a 
good one.
Thanks for the update
Larry Howell





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 http://www.robert7721.com   if anyone is interested.  
 
Thought I'd send an update on my plane since I've made a few changes 
www.robert7721.com

KR> Update KR2S N1852Z

[robert7...@aol.com]

Thought I'd send an update on my plane since I've made a few changes lately 
 and had some maintenance done on her as well. I passed the 250 hours mark 
on  N1852Z and she is ready for another trip to Oshkosh and the KR Gathering 
this  year. This spring I installed a Dynon D6 in the cockpit. I have added 
a  short video of the instrument panel and some flying to my web page at 
_www.robert7721.com_ (http://www.robert7721.com)  if anyone is interested.  
The D6 was a very tight fit and I was not able to use the regular wiring  
harness. I made my own connections and I have only the power and  ground wires 
installed to the unit along with Pitot and Static inputs. The  D6 does not 
have an internal compass, it requires an external unit and  I do not have that 
hooked up right now. I have plenty of other  directional information from 
my magnetic compass and GPS. 

I also did some engine work on my VW Revmaster engine. My  problem started 
out as a loss in RPM (about 200) that I could not quite  determine on a 
flight. I checked valve clearances, spark plugs, etc. This were  all fine so I 
then pulled the heads. Both heads had cracks in between  the center valves 
developing - I did some checking and this is actually  fairly normal for VW 
heads. I had the heads reconditioned by a local  machine shop in Kansas City. 
They said I also had two burnt exhaust valves and  needed new springs. I 
called Revmaster and Joe Horvath sent me the parts -  cost was less than $60. 
The cylinder head shop re-welded the cracks in the  heads, reworked the 
seats, installed the new exhaust valves for about $120. All  told less than 
$200 
to repair the cylinder heads. It only took me about 2 hours  to remove the 
heads, but probably 3 to reinstall everything. All told I was out  of the air 
for about 4 weeks. I've been flying again for a couple weeks and yes,  
everything is back to normal. This has probably been my most expensive repair 
on 
 my KR since it started flying in 2006, I'm pretty happy about that. It was 
 more depressing to not be able to fly for about a month. 

I plan to be at Oshkosh in the Homebuilt Camping this year. Hope to see a  
few other KRs there as well. Should be flying in on Sunday morning. Probably 
be  there till Friday or Saturday. 

On a separate note, Terry Chizek (KR2) is having his annual fish fry and  
BBQ again at his airport in Marion Kansas (43K) this summer, so if you are in 
 the area please drop in. Date is going to be Saturday 21 August. 

Rob Schmitt
N1852Z
Kansas City

KR> update

[assaad assaker]

dear friend
> Dear Micahel sylvestre
> on your foto we can an auto pilot
> i have the same on my Fascination Aircraft but i don't have the manual of
> instatllation neither the user manual
> can you give me some advices about how to adjust it pls
> thx a lot

Dr Assaad Assaker
Médecine aéronautique
Médecin National de la FFULM
+33661848162
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To: "KRNET" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:11 PM
Subject: KR> update




Hey Guys, I've mounted the spars, temporarily mounted templates to mark 
taper of spars and oh yea, had to remake 2 WAF's to get one of the back 
spars to drop down 1/2 inch. Boy is this some tedious work. There is a light 
at the end of the tunnel though. I think that I'm about to be where I can 
really haul butt on the wings. I have been taking time to read the post. On 
the subject of copying what already works for someone, When you guys see my 
KR for the first time, You will see a sampling of about 20 different KR,s on 
the net. I think that I've stole ideas from all you guys. Merry Christmas.

Mike Sylvester
kr2s builder
Birmingham,AL.

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[MICHAEL SYLVESTER]

Hey Guys, I've mounted the spars, temporarily mounted templates to mark taper 
of spars and oh yea, had to remake 2 WAF's to get one of the back spars to drop 
down 1/2 inch. Boy is this some tedious work. There is a light at the end of 
the tunnel though. I think that I'm about to be where I can really haul butt on 
the wings. I have been taking time to read the post. On the subject of copying 
what already works for someone, When you guys see my KR for the first time, You 
will see a sampling of about 20 different KR,s on the net. I think that I've 
stole ideas from all you guys. Merry Christmas.

Mike Sylvester 
kr2s builder 
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Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Larry Knox]

Thanks Matt, says it better than I did. la...@lebanair.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of 
Matt Lenz
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 6:25 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

Jeff, I always look for your comments in this forum.  Keep it up and don't 
get hung up over the replies that bug you.  As a new builder, (and a mechanical
engineer of over 25 years), I learn something new every other day in this 
forum.  I am grateful to those who have the experience and are willing to share
it.

Matt Lenz
Orlando, FL
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:08:48 ?0700 Jeff Scott jscott.pi...@juno.com writes:

This forum never ceases to amaze me. I can observe the damage first
hand, interview the owner and report exactly what he has told me knowing 
that he takes at least ordinary diligence in his fuel testing, do the repairs 
in 
my shop, and post what should be some useful information to the group. 
Yet there is always somebody out there that will tell me I don't know
what I'm looking at or that the owner doesn't know what he's doing. 
It often times makes me wonder why I bother to post anything to this forum.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM




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[Larry Knox]

Yes, the torpedo tip tanks. One doesn't leak but has a number of patches and
the other one we are still working on. la...@lebanair.com

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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 9:11 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

In the statement below, are you talking about tip tanks?

Larry Howell






 We are working on a Bonanza that never burned
auto fuel at any time, that is leaking in several places because of pin
holes and delamination. 
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Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Matt Lenz]

Jeff, I always look for your comments in this forum.  Keep it up and don't 
get hung up over the replies that bug you.  As a new builder, (and a mechanical
engineer of over 25 years), I learn something new every other day in this 
forum.  I am grateful to those who have the experience and are willing to share
it.
 
Matt Lenz
Orlando, FL
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This forum never ceases to amaze me. I can observe the damage first
hand, interview the owner and report exactly what he has told me knowing 
that he takes at least ordinary diligence in his fuel testing, do the repairs 
in 
my shop, and post what should be some useful information to the group. 
Yet there is always somebody out there that will tell me I don't know
what I'm looking at or that the owner doesn't know what he's doing. 
It often times makes me wonder why I bother to post anything to this forum.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Randy Smith]

He has to be. Bo's have bladder tanks for mains.

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From: Larry H. <lah...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 11:10 AM


In the statement below, are you talking about tip tanks?

Larry Howell






 We are working on a Bonanza that never burned
auto fuel at any time, that is leaking in several places because of pin
holes and delamination. 
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KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Larry H.]

In the statement below, are you talking about tip tanks?

Larry Howell






 We are working on a Bonanza that never burned
auto fuel at any time, that is leaking in several places because of pin
holes and delamination. 

KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Larry Knox]

Sorry Jeff, not trying to degrade your Knowledge or the owners
qualifications at all. I am sure you will find this a problem of one- Low
levels of Ethanol unobserved, Two- poor quality construction IE pin holes or
delamination of the glass. We are working on a Bonanza that never burned
auto fuel at any time, that is leaking in several places because of pin
holes and delamination. Sorry, la...@lebanair.com

-Original Message-
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Of jscott.pi...@juno.com
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 8:09 PM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

This forum never ceases to amaze me.  I can observe the damage first
hand, interview 
the owner and report exactly what he has told me knowing that he takes at
least
ordinary diligence in his fuel testing, do the repairs in my shop, and
post what 
should be some useful information to the group.  Yet there is always
somebody 
out there that will tell me I don't know what I'm looking at or that the
owner doesn't 
know what he's doing.  It often times makes me wonder why I bother to
post 
anything to this forum.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:17:55 -0800 "Larry Knox" <la...@lebanair.com>
writes:
> Mogas (Clear 92 Octane Unleaded) does not hurt any type of Glass or
Poly
> tanks. We carry and sell Mogas at the rate of several thousand Gal a
Month.
> The people that burn it have every kind of handmade tank you can use
and
> have never had a problem of any kind. The problem is ethanol whether
you
> knew you had it or not. I have used it and stored it for 15 years in
glass
> tanks in my spray business before we purchased this FBO 3 years ago and
> installed it here. We have never had a problem except one tank used by
an
> associate that had ethanol in it for less than a month. 
> la...@lebanair.com 

> Jeff wrote:
>  
> I thought I would write an update to this discussion we had in early
October
> regarding polyester fuel tanks.  Especially since I referenced the
polyester
> tip tanks in the Cherokee 235 and Cherokee 6 aircraft as proof of
success
> using polyester resin for fuel tanks.  This week I have a Cherokee 235
in my
> shop and am rebuilding the tip tanks.  The owner bought the Peterson
Autogas
> STC 5 years ago and has been running Mogas in the these tanks for the
last 5
> years.  The owner also states that he has carefully tested for alcohol
every
> time he has purchased mogas to use in his plane, so these tanks have
never
> been exposed to alcohol.

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KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[bobby burington]

From: jscott.pi...@juno.com 
Jeff Scott Wrote

" This forum never ceases to amaze me. "
 
 
 
Hey don't take it personal Jeff, the forum amazes me too, everyone has 
different experiences and everyone posts their different experiences, as it 
should be and we who are just building learn from all the posts and everyone's 
different experience. Thank you for all the information you have shared, it is 
valuable keep it up.
 
Bobby Burington
California KR Builder

KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[jscott.pi...@juno.com]

This forum never ceases to amaze me.  I can observe the damage first
hand, interview 
the owner and report exactly what he has told me knowing that he takes at
least
ordinary diligence in his fuel testing, do the repairs in my shop, and
post what 
should be some useful information to the group.  Yet there is always
somebody 
out there that will tell me I don't know what I'm looking at or that the
owner doesn't 
know what he's doing.  It often times makes me wonder why I bother to
post 
anything to this forum.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:17:55 -0800 "Larry Knox" 
writes:
> Mogas (Clear 92 Octane Unleaded) does not hurt any type of Glass or
Poly
> tanks. We carry and sell Mogas at the rate of several thousand Gal a
Month.
> The people that burn it have every kind of handmade tank you can use
and
> have never had a problem of any kind. The problem is ethanol whether
you
> knew you had it or not. I have used it and stored it for 15 years in
glass
> tanks in my spray business before we purchased this FBO 3 years ago and
> installed it here. We have never had a problem except one tank used by
an
> associate that had ethanol in it for less than a month. 
> la...@lebanair.com 

> Jeff wrote:
>  
> I thought I would write an update to this discussion we had in early
October
> regarding polyester fuel tanks.  Especially since I referenced the
polyester
> tip tanks in the Cherokee 235 and Cherokee 6 aircraft as proof of
success
> using polyester resin for fuel tanks.  This week I have a Cherokee 235
in my
> shop and am rebuilding the tip tanks.  The owner bought the Peterson
Autogas
> STC 5 years ago and has been running Mogas in the these tanks for the
last 5
> years.  The owner also states that he has carefully tested for alcohol
every
> time he has purchased mogas to use in his plane, so these tanks have
never
> been exposed to alcohol.

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KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Larry Knox]

If you are using fuel with any amount of ethanol in it in an airplane not
specifically designed for it you probably won't have to worry about your
tanks leaking just busting open when you hit the ground. la...@lebanair.com

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To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks


Hi Folks,

I have noticed the recurring discusion about tank sealers, and their
susceptability to problems when using MOGAS with Ethanol. I have had some
experiences in the past with metal Motorcycle fuel tanks which rusted
through due to poor maintenance, namely allowing water from condensation to
sit on the botttom of the tank (for years appearantly.) While large leaks
required welding to fix the problem, if caught early they are often fixed by
coating the inside of the tank with an aftermarket product called KREEM TANK
SEALER.  It's available at many Motorcycle Parts Suppliers, and even JC
Whitney, in various sizes for between $20 for a 16 oz kit and less then $60
for a gallon kit.  I have a number of classic and antique motorcycles, and
after treatment with this product have not had any of them develope new
leaks after years of use.  I usually use the cheapest gas I can find, and
often it is part Ethanol, and seems to have no effect on the sealer.  As a
product that is specifically designed as a fuel tank sealer, it might be
worth it to you guys looking for something that will stand up to Ethanol to
research it.

Happy Flying,

Todd Thelin
Spanaway, WA



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Sent: Wed, Nov 25, 2009 7:51 am
Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks


Fred,
Proseal is quite thick and rubbery.  It would be difficult to seal an
ntire tank with it.  I use proseal to seal my fuel sending units and
he nut plates and bolts that secure them to the tank.  However, if
ou are not comfortable with the imperiousness of  epoxy and glass
anks to fuel, (I have found it is the pin holes that present the
roblem, not the incompatibility of the matrix and the fuel) I would
ecommend PR-1422 available at Wicks to coat the inside of the tank.
t can be brushed on and is much easier to work with and can be used
ith fuels containing alcohol  (Of course there are many other reasons
o stay away from alcohol, but that is not the point of discussion
ere).  PR-1422 has a shelf life for certified applications and Wicks
ells the expired stuff for cents on the dollar.
Scott Watts
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Fred Johnson <f...@renotruss.com> wrote:
 That pretty much sums it up. the only question I have still, is would a
tank
 sealer like Pro Seal work to insulate any type of resin from mogas?

 Thanks for the info Jeff!

 Fred Johnson
 Reno, NV


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[Scott]

Pr1422 was not developed for certified planes.  It was developed as a  
part of the space program to seal rocket fuel tanks, and as it is  
impervious to just about everything, is now used to seal aircraft  
tanks.  Another example of your tax dollars at work.

Scott



On Nov 27, 2009, at 12:47 AM, "Mike Taglieri" <miket_...@verizon.net>  
wrote:

> KREEM may work for rust holes on steel tanks, but I and other people  
> I know
> with '70s-era motorcycles have had no luck at all using it to protect
> fiberglass tanks from alcohol.  The only thing that seems to work is
> Caswells tank sealant, a 2-part epoxy that I used two years ago to  
> coat the
> tank of my 1972 Norton Commando with good results to date.  The only
> credible stories of failure that I've seen with it were by people who
> skipped the rather rigorous pretreatment Caswells requires, which  
> includes
> washing the inside with Dawn dishwashing liquid and water, drying
> completely, shaking the tank with acetone and drywall screws inside  
> to rough
> the surface, drying completely, mixing and pouring the epoxy in a warm
> place, shaking it around, and letting it set, preferably baking at  
> 140F for
> several hours after it sets up.
>
> It may be true that Wicks PR-1422 would protect fiberglass against  
> alcohol,
> but if it's made for certified planes there's no reason it ought to,  
> because
> alcohol isn't allowed in fuel for certified planes.
>
> Mike Taglieri  miket--...@juno.com
>
>  Everyone has his reasons.
>   - Jean Renoir "The Rules of the Game"
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <rdrace...@aol.com>
> To: <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks
>
>
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I have noticed the recurring discusion about tank sealers, and their
> susceptability to problems when using MOGAS with Ethanol. I have had  
> some
> experiences in the past with metal Motorcycle fuel tanks which rusted
> through due to poor maintenance, namely allowing water from  
> condensation to
> sit on the botttom of the tank (for years appearantly.) While large  
> leaks
> required welding to fix the problem, if caught early they are often  
> fixed by
> coating the inside of the tank with an aftermarket product called  
> KREEM TANK
> SEALER.  It's available at many Motorcycle Parts Suppliers, and even  
> JC
> Whitney, in various sizes for between $20 for a 16 oz kit and less  
> then $60
> for a gallon kit.  I have a number of classic and antique  
> motorcycles, and
> after treatment with this product have not had any of them develope  
> new
> leaks after years of use.  I usually use the cheapest gas I can  
> find, and
> often it is part Ethanol, and seems to have no effect on the  
> sealer.  As a
> product that is specifically designed as a fuel tank sealer, it  
> might be
> worth it to you guys looking for something that will stand up to  
> Ethanol to
> research it.
>
> Happy Flying,
>
> Todd Thelin
> Spanaway, WA
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Watts <scottwat...@gmail.com>
> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Wed, Nov 25, 2009 7:51 am
> Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks
>
>
> Fred,
> Proseal is quite thick and rubbery.  It would be difficult to seal an
> ntire tank with it.  I use proseal to seal my fuel sending units and
> he nut plates and bolts that secure them to the tank.  However, if
> ou are not comfortable with the imperiousness of  epoxy and glass
> anks to fuel, (I have found it is the pin holes that present the
> roblem, not the incompatibility of the matrix and the fuel) I would
> ecommend PR-1422 available at Wicks to coat the inside of the tank.
> t can be brushed on and is much easier to work with and can be used
> ith fuels containing alcohol  (Of course there are many other reasons
> o stay away from alcohol, but that is not the point of discussion
> ere).  PR-1422 has a shelf life for certified applications and Wicks
> ells the expired stuff for cents on the dollar.
> Scott Watts
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Fred Johnson <f...@renotruss.com>  
> wrote:
> That pretty much sums it up. the only question I have still, is  
> would a
> tank
> sealer like Pro Seal work to insulate any type of resin from mogas?
>
> Thanks for the info Jeff!
>
> Fred Johnson
> Reno, NV
>
>
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KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Mike Taglieri]

KREEM may work for rust holes on steel tanks, but I and other people I know 
with '70s-era motorcycles have had no luck at all using it to protect 
fiberglass tanks from alcohol.  The only thing that seems to work is 
Caswells tank sealant, a 2-part epoxy that I used two years ago to coat the 
tank of my 1972 Norton Commando with good results to date.  The only 
credible stories of failure that I've seen with it were by people who 
skipped the rather rigorous pretreatment Caswells requires, which includes 
washing the inside with Dawn dishwashing liquid and water, drying 
completely, shaking the tank with acetone and drywall screws inside to rough 
the surface, drying completely, mixing and pouring the epoxy in a warm 
place, shaking it around, and letting it set, preferably baking at 140F for 
several hours after it sets up.

It may be true that Wicks PR-1422 would protect fiberglass against alcohol, 
but if it's made for certified planes there's no reason it ought to, because 
alcohol isn't allowed in fuel for certified planes.

Mike Taglieri  miket--...@juno.com

  Everyone has his reasons.
   - Jean Renoir "The Rules of the Game"



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To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks



Hi Folks,

I have noticed the recurring discusion about tank sealers, and their 
susceptability to problems when using MOGAS with Ethanol. I have had some 
experiences in the past with metal Motorcycle fuel tanks which rusted 
through due to poor maintenance, namely allowing water from condensation to 
sit on the botttom of the tank (for years appearantly.) While large leaks 
required welding to fix the problem, if caught early they are often fixed by 
coating the inside of the tank with an aftermarket product called KREEM TANK 
SEALER.  It's available at many Motorcycle Parts Suppliers, and even JC 
Whitney, in various sizes for between $20 for a 16 oz kit and less then $60 
for a gallon kit.  I have a number of classic and antique motorcycles, and 
after treatment with this product have not had any of them develope new 
leaks after years of use.  I usually use the cheapest gas I can find, and 
often it is part Ethanol, and seems to have no effect on the sealer.  As a 
product that is specifically designed as a fuel tank sealer, it might be 
worth it to you guys looking for something that will stand up to Ethanol to 
research it.

Happy Flying,

Todd Thelin
Spanaway, WA



-Original Message-
From: Scott Watts <scottwat...@gmail.com>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wed, Nov 25, 2009 7:51 am
Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks


Fred,
Proseal is quite thick and rubbery.  It would be difficult to seal an
ntire tank with it.  I use proseal to seal my fuel sending units and
he nut plates and bolts that secure them to the tank.  However, if
ou are not comfortable with the imperiousness of  epoxy and glass
anks to fuel, (I have found it is the pin holes that present the
roblem, not the incompatibility of the matrix and the fuel) I would
ecommend PR-1422 available at Wicks to coat the inside of the tank.
t can be brushed on and is much easier to work with and can be used
ith fuels containing alcohol  (Of course there are many other reasons
o stay away from alcohol, but that is not the point of discussion
ere).  PR-1422 has a shelf life for certified applications and Wicks
ells the expired stuff for cents on the dollar.
Scott Watts
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Fred Johnson <f...@renotruss.com> wrote:
 That pretty much sums it up. the only question I have still, is would a 
tank
 sealer like Pro Seal work to insulate any type of resin from mogas?

 Thanks for the info Jeff!

 Fred Johnson
 Reno, NV


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KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Larry H.]

Hi Todd,
I have used something like you describe below to coat the inside of a metal 
(steel) motorcycle tank that had rusted years ago. The kit came with an acid 
for cleaning and etching the inside of the tank for adhesion. The stuff I had 
was a two part I think, white in color and looked like white liquid ceramic. As 
directed, once the tank was as clean as I could get it and etched with the 
acid, I poured the liquid in and and rotated the tank around and around to make 
sure all of the inside was coated. Once set up the inside was kind of shiny 
like glass. I could stick my finger in the fill opening and feel of it and it 
felt smooth as glass. It worked very well. I am not sure I would have faith in 
using that product in a resin based fuel tank. I will admit that I have no idea 
whether it would stick properly but I would guess it wouldn't work that well 
but I was wrong once!   LOL

AS for PRC, I think that is the same stuff I coated the inside seams of my 
Mooneys fuel tank with. Jeff can probably speak to this, but that was one night 
mare job cleaning all of the old stuff out of the whole tank through the too 
small openings and then cleaning and cleaning and cleaning and, well you get 
the picture. Bottom line is all oil residue has to be gone or the new sealer 
may not stick properly. I see that as one of the main objectives of coating a 
used tank that has had oil in it.

Larry Howell







Hi Folks,

I have noticed the recurring discusion about tank sealers, and their 
susceptability to problems when using MOGAS with Ethanol. I have had some 
experiences in the past with metal Motorcycle fuel tanks which rusted through 
due to poor maintenance, namely allowing water from condensation to sit on the 
botttom of the tank (for years appearantly.) While large leaks required welding 
to fix the problem, if caught early they are often fixed by coating the inside 
of the tank with an aftermarket product called KREEM TANK SEALER.  It's 
available at many Motorcycle Parts Suppliers, and even JC Whitney, in various 
sizes for between $20 for a 16 oz kit and less then $60 for a gallon kit.  I 
have a number of classic and antique motorcycles, and after treatment with this 
product have not had any of them develope new leaks after years of use.  I 
usually use the cheapest gas I can find, and often it is part Ethanol, and 
seems to have no effect on the sealer.  As a
 product that is specifically designed as a fuel tank sealer, it might be worth 
it to you guys looking for something that will stand up to Ethanol to research 
it.

Happy Flying,

Todd Thelin
Spanaway, WA

KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[rdrace...@aol.com]

Hi Folks,

I have noticed the recurring discusion about tank sealers, and their 
susceptability to problems when using MOGAS with Ethanol. I have had some 
experiences in the past with metal Motorcycle fuel tanks which rusted through 
due to poor maintenance, namely allowing water from condensation to sit on the 
botttom of the tank (for years appearantly.) While large leaks required welding 
to fix the problem, if caught early they are often fixed by coating the inside 
of the tank with an aftermarket product called KREEM TANK SEALER.  It's 
available at many Motorcycle Parts Suppliers, and even JC Whitney, in various 
sizes for between $20 for a 16 oz kit and less then $60 for a gallon kit.  I 
have a number of classic and antique motorcycles, and after treatment with this 
product have not had any of them develope new leaks after years of use.  I 
usually use the cheapest gas I can find, and often it is part Ethanol, and 
seems to have no effect on the sealer.  As a product that is specifically 
designed as a fuel tank sealer, it might be worth it to you guys looking for 
something that will stand up to Ethanol to research it.

Happy Flying,

Todd Thelin
Spanaway, WA



-Original Message-
From: Scott Watts <scottwat...@gmail.com>
To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wed, Nov 25, 2009 7:51 am
Subject: Re: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks


Fred,
Proseal is quite thick and rubbery.  It would be difficult to seal an
ntire tank with it.  I use proseal to seal my fuel sending units and
he nut plates and bolts that secure them to the tank.  However, if
ou are not comfortable with the imperiousness of  epoxy and glass
anks to fuel, (I have found it is the pin holes that present the
roblem, not the incompatibility of the matrix and the fuel) I would
ecommend PR-1422 available at Wicks to coat the inside of the tank.
t can be brushed on and is much easier to work with and can be used
ith fuels containing alcohol  (Of course there are many other reasons
o stay away from alcohol, but that is not the point of discussion
ere).  PR-1422 has a shelf life for certified applications and Wicks
ells the expired stuff for cents on the dollar.
Scott Watts
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Fred Johnson <f...@renotruss.com> wrote:
 That pretty much sums it up. the only question I have still, is would a tank
 sealer like Pro Seal work to insulate any type of resin from mogas?

 Thanks for the info Jeff!

 Fred Johnson
 Reno, NV


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KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Fred Johnson]

Thanks Scott!

Have a great thanksgiving!!!

Fred Johnson
Reno, NV


Scott wrote:

Proseal is quite thick and rubbery.  It would be difficult to seal an
entire tank with it.  I use proseal to seal my fuel sending units and
the nut plates and bolts that secure them to the tank.  However, if
you are not comfortable with the imperiousness of  epoxy and glass
tanks to fuel, (I have found it is the pin holes that present the
problem, not the incompatibility of the matrix and the fuel) I would
recommend PR-1422 available at Wicks to coat the inside of the tank.
It can be brushed on and is much easier to work with and can be used
with fuels containing alcohol  (Of course there are many other reasons
to stay away from alcohol, but that is not the point of discussion
here).  PR-1422 has a shelf life for certified applications and Wicks
sells the expired stuff for cents on the dollar.

KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Scott Watts]

Fred,

Proseal is quite thick and rubbery.  It would be difficult to seal an
entire tank with it.  I use proseal to seal my fuel sending units and
the nut plates and bolts that secure them to the tank.  However, if
you are not comfortable with the imperiousness of  epoxy and glass
tanks to fuel, (I have found it is the pin holes that present the
problem, not the incompatibility of the matrix and the fuel) I would
recommend PR-1422 available at Wicks to coat the inside of the tank.
It can be brushed on and is much easier to work with and can be used
with fuels containing alcohol  (Of course there are many other reasons
to stay away from alcohol, but that is not the point of discussion
here).  PR-1422 has a shelf life for certified applications and Wicks
sells the expired stuff for cents on the dollar.

Scott Watts

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:05 AM, Fred Johnson  wrote:
> That pretty much sums it up. the only question I have still, is would a tank
> sealer like Pro Seal work to insulate any type of resin from mogas?
>
> Thanks for the info Jeff!
>
> Fred Johnson
> Reno, NV
>
>

KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Larry Knox]

Mogas (Clear 92 Octane Unleaded) does not hurt any type of Glass or Poly
tanks. We carry and sell Mogas at the rate of several thousand Gal a Month.
The people that burn it have every kind of handmade tank you can use and
have never had a problem of any kind. The problem is ethanol whether you
knew you had it or not. I have used it and stored it for 15 years in glass
tanks in my spray business before we purchased this FBO 3 years ago and
installed it here. We have never had a problem except one tank used by an
associate that had ethanol in it for less than a month. la...@lebanair.com 

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Of Fred Johnson
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 8:06 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: RE: KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

That pretty much sums it up. the only question I have still, is would a tank
sealer like Pro Seal work to insulate any type of resin from mogas?

Thanks for the info Jeff!

Fred Johnson
Reno, NV



Jeff wrote:



I thought I would write an update to this discussion we had in early October
regarding polyester fuel tanks.  Especially since I referenced the polyester
tip tanks in the Cherokee 235 and Cherokee 6 aircraft as proof of success
using polyester resin for fuel tanks.  This week I have a Cherokee 235 in my
shop and am rebuilding the tip tanks.  The owner bought the Peterson Autogas
STC 5 years ago and has been running Mogas in the these tanks for the last 5
years.  The owner also states that he has carefully tested for alcohol every
time he has purchased mogas to use in his plane, so these tanks have never
been exposed to alcohol.




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KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Fred Johnson]

That pretty much sums it up. the only question I have still, is would a tank
sealer like Pro Seal work to insulate any type of resin from mogas?

Thanks for the info Jeff!

Fred Johnson
Reno, NV



Jeff wrote:



I thought I would write an update to this discussion we had in early October
regarding polyester fuel tanks.  Especially since I referenced the polyester
tip tanks in the Cherokee 235 and Cherokee 6 aircraft as proof of success
using polyester resin for fuel tanks.  This week I have a Cherokee 235 in my
shop and am rebuilding the tip tanks.  The owner bought the Peterson Autogas
STC 5 years ago and has been running Mogas in the these tanks for the last 5
years.  The owner also states that he has carefully tested for alcohol every
time he has purchased mogas to use in his plane, so these tanks have never
been exposed to alcohol.

KR> Update from the archives - Polyester fuel tanks

[Jeff Scott]

I thought I would write an update to this discussion we had in early October 
regarding polyester fuel tanks.  Especially since I referenced the polyester 
tip tanks in the Cherokee 235 and Cherokee 6 aircraft as proof of success using 
polyester resin for fuel tanks.  This week I have a Cherokee 235 in my shop and 
am rebuilding the tip tanks.  The owner bought the Peterson Autogas STC 5 years 
ago and has been running Mogas in the these tanks for the last 5 years.  The 
owner also states that he has carefully tested for alcohol every time he has 
purchased mogas to use in his plane, so these tanks have never been exposed to 
alcohol.

The tank construction consists of a two laminate outside shell of polyester 
impregnated woven glass cloth much like the 5.85 oz KR glass, then a layer of 
polyester impregnated non-directional glass matting used as a core material, 
then an inner shell of polyester impregnated woven glass cloth.  There was a 
final painted on coat of polyester resin used to seal any pinholes in the 
tanks.  The aft and side bulkheads are a thick built up multi-laminate layer of 
woven glass cloth. 

The result of 5 years exposure to mogas:   The mogas has permeated through the 
inside polyester resin impregnated cloth weave and soaked into the glass 
matting core of the tank causing numerous pockets and voids in the glass mat 
core between the lamina in fuel tanks.  The resin in the mat core material is 
very soft and gooey and all of the pockets along the bottom of the tank were 
still full of gas even though it has been over a month since the tanks were 
drained.  The damage at the top of the tank where the fuel was sloshing against 
it was even worse than the bottom of the tank.  The tops of both tanks had 
voids in the lamina as large as 6 inches in diameter that had to be cut away 
and patched.   The polyester resin has softened and delaminated to the point 
that the fuel tanks were deforming in flight.  The tanks were also dropping 
much of the interior resin coating into the fuel also causing fuel particulate 
contamination.  The built up bulkheads appear to be mostly unaffected other 
than peeling of the final painted on coating of polyester resin used to seal 
the tanks.

These tanks have been in service since 1969, never had a service difficulty or 
any damage, and were never exposed to mogas until 5 years ago.  I have had to 
cut and grind away most of the insides of the tanks and am building them back 
up with a good quality epoxy resin, literally building a tank within a tank.  I 
have also advised the owner to not expose the tip tanks to mogas in the future 
even though they will now be lined with an epoxy based resin.  

OK, so this is some real world data regarding long term exposure of Polyester 
Resin to Mogas.

Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM



-
 Date:  Oct 1, 2009 7:30 PM

I thought it didn't do well with auto gas among some shrinkage issues similar 
to what you see on old boats. 

Steve Glover
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From: Jeff Scott
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To: KR Net
ReplyTo: KR Net
Subject: Re: KR> RE: vinyester vs polyester
Sent: Oct 1, 2009 6:21 PM

Don't know.  Piper never intended for their planes to have alcohol in
them.  That may very well be the reason why Steve Glover says not to use
it.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 16:18:01 -0700 "Fred Johnson" 
writes:
> How well will it hold up to alcohol?
> 
> 
> Fred Johnson
> Reno, NV


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KR> update on my KR

[mikensandys...@aol.com]

WOW what a rush to see and hear my rev master turbo come to life on N379NS! I 
know some of you have already experienced it and I've heard you talking about 
it but what a feeling. After five years of building I finally see light at the 
end of the tunnel.


Mike Stafford


Denham Springs, Louisiana

KR> update your flying KR info stats

[Mark Langford]

NetHeads,

It's been about four months now, and there are some new KRs flying, while 
others have made changes to their KRs.  If you need to update the data for your 
KR at http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html (or http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.xls if 
you have Excel), please let me know what needs updating and I'll make the 
changes.  It's easist if you copy the Excel file and change your row, but that 
just makes it easy.  Anything will work...

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
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KR> update and parts - electronic ignition

[william Clapp]

Back into the air again with a couple changes on the plane.   I was down at WW 
helping him do some flying and checkout on the 601 when we decided to install 
the Crane electronic points (without points) into the WW distributor.  After a 
little playing around we had it up and running.  Flew around a bit and flew 
home on the electronics.  There doesnt seem to be much of a difference in the 
way the engine runs but  may make starting easier and smoother running.  The 
ingition pulses should be more accurate and smoother.

  Yes WW is very busy at the moment.  He is making up parts for the upcoming 
Sun n Fun and getting orders filled.  I know that there are new products coming 
down the pike to make things easier for us homebuilders.  The gold hub  is one 
of those products and is a beauty to behold and simpler than the original black 
hub.   I will eventually have to order a couple for myself for the twin but 
that is down the road.  Still have to get spars built.  

  Will be doing a little flying this week I hope and working to save up monies 
for the new airplane...Should be at the Gathering '08Hoping.

  FLy safe..Bill




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[robert7...@aol.com]

I've gotten work some work done on my KR2S during the winter and I will be  
getting it back out to the airport this weekend (weather permitting). I painted 
 her and added lights so I can operate at night. Paint was just a gloss white 
 boat enamel. I painted her using a harbor freight air sprayer and borrowed  
air compressor from the EAA chapter. I did not get the wheel pants/fairings  
done as I had planned for this winter. Problem is I keep reading the  flying 
reports from everyone and decided I just have to get back up in the  air.

Also since it is Friday. A friend at the chapter here in Kansas City has a  
Zenith 701 project for sale for $24K. It is almost finished with maybe  6 
months of work left in it. If your looking for a project that would  not 
require a 
lot of time to finish it up this would be a good one. It comes  with the Rotax 
912 engine and his logs are complete so it should be no problem  paperwork 
wise.  If your interested, send me an email and I'll give you his  contact 
information.

Rob Schmitt
_robert7721@aol.com_ (mailto:robert7...@aol.com) 
Kansas City, MO
N1852Z
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KR> Update

[Dan Heath]

Today, I got a new air breather made and had the oil cooler block cut down. 
Now the carb fits perfectly and I think there is room for the air plenum up
front.  The more I look at it and the farther I get with it, the more I like
this installation.  I think it is going to be very clean and simple.  The
carb heat is what is making it difficult, everything else is just falling in
place.  Next, to fit the oil cooler.  There also, is not much room under the
engine.  Pics when I get the installation finished.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

KR> Update

[Eric Pitts]

I have been on vacation this pass week and have managed to get some work done 
on the airplane. Check out my updated WEB page, the link is in my signature.


Eric Pitts
Terre Haute Indiana
KR2S
http://home.att.net/~e.j.pitts/

KR> Update

[Dan Heath]

The Black Bird has her MOJO back and she is very happy with the new look. 
The engine is just hung and will take a while to get all the stuff hooked
back up due to the new configuration.  I bought a new oil cooler from Steve
that I will hang below the engine, and the carb is now on top with a really
neat intake manifold.  I have to check out the fit under the cowling, and
may have to have the intake re-done, if the fit is too bad, but I should
know that tomorrow.

You would not believe the mess that the mechanic found when he started
trying to clean up the heads.  It turns out, that is where my problems have
been coming from, with not being able to get the mixture right.  As bad as
it was, it is hard to believe that an engine could turn out as much power as
it was.  I am very lucky to have found it when I did.  If your gut tells you
something is wrong, don't try to tell it that it is lying.  Anyway, he fly
cut the heads,  so they are right  and put in a 60mm head gasket ( copper O
ring ) to take up the slack.  I now have 8.5:1 compression with Total Seal
rings, and am having a hard time being patient until I can start it up. 

I will post pics on my site, as soon as I can get it all together.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

KR> Update - Corvair college....

[william Clapp]

Howdy yall, Sorry I havent written in in a while but thought I might shoot an 
update.  Ive been busy working, helping people move, trying to fix the house, 
all those little things, so I havent done much flying lately.  Ive only put on 
a few hours since the Gathering - only to 410 right now so I expect Mark 
Langford to pass =me up in a couple weeks - but thats great - Im glad to see 
him putting the hours on his bird.  The rest of you need to get busy! The 
Gathering is only a little bit away again and we want you there.  Im hoping to 
get busy on the twin - dont know if Ill finish it before the Gathering because 
Ill have to make some money as well.  N41768 is doing fine - Im playing a 
little bit with the breather on it - trying to make a real efficient breather 
that recycles back to the case well.   My current breather still make me lose 
about a quart every 3 or four hours.  Im hoping to get it to a quart every 10 
or so.   Improving the breather will help when I do the turbo
 installation later.  Ive made a trip to Tampa and a few around in the area and 
will be giong to the Corvair College this week to help out.   
  Right now I am working on my other Corvair - the 66 Monza I have - seems to 
have a tight valve adjustment on the right head - Ive got it on the lift and 
will be doing compression checks and adjusting the valve train - hope that 
fixes it - runs poorly when cold.   Other than that Im having fun.   I hope to 
really get working on the twin but need to get a couple car projects out of the 
way.  
  BTW - if anybody has some stuff to sell for my twin (or give away) let me 
know

  What I have so farCarbon nomex fuselage, canopy (dragonfly style), wheels 
and brakes, tires, engine cores, elevator and horizontal (Lancair 230).  I will 
be looking for tailwheel assy (but may design one thats built into the rudder) 
but mostly needing plywood, foam, resin, and cloth.   I found a foam 
manufacterer in Atlanta that can make urethane any size I want so may order 8" 
thick pieces to design solid core wings and such.  Stub wings will by ply skin 
construction due to the stresses on the wings from the engines.   Wood for 
building spars may be the first priority since I can start with the center wing 
soon and install into the fuse.  I  may build the entire fuse and wait on the 
outer wings once the rest is finishedwell, lots of ideas.  I plan to start 
a photo spread of the build soon so you can all be updatedwish me luck!

  Fly safe - build carefully.
  Bill Clapp




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KR> Update

[Randy Smith]

Are you making your own gaskets? I found out a long
time ago that some gasket material will not work with
100LL. Did your problem start after you bought 100LL
It will make them swell. After they dry they will
shrink back to normal.

--- Mark Jones  wrote:

> A lot of you are asking if I am back in the air yet.
> Not yet. I discovered some exterior cracks in the
> rubber hose which connects the carb to the intake
> pipes. Even though there were exterior cracks in the
> rubber, the cracks did not penetrate the interior
> walls of the hose and did not contribute to my
> engine problems. I just thought this would be a good
> time to replace the hoses. However the vendor I
> ordered them from misplaced my order and they did
> not ship out till last Wednesday. I did specify
> Priority Mail and that should have gotten them here
> yesterday had they actually shipped last Wednesday
> but they did not arrive. My plans were to install
> the carb back on the engine last night and do run
> ups, adjustments, etc and fly today since everything
> else is ready to go. Oh well, that did not happen so
> it looks like it will be next weekend before I have
> a chance to test fly her and that is only if I get
> the carb back on. The only things I have found which
> may have caused my engine to suddenly drop to idle
> was the diaphragm in the carb was slightly out of
> shape when compared to a new one. Also there was
> fluid in the pressure tube leading to the diaphragm
> chamber. That tube supplies pressure to the
> diaphragm which in turn actuates a fulcrum which
> opens up the metering tube allowing the proper
> amount of fuel into the carburetor. I sure hope this
> will solve my problem because I am getting the
> jitters since I have not flown in two weeks. The KR
> is an addiction and being denied flight in it causes
> withdrawal symptoms. I need a fix real bad..
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI 
> Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
> E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com
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KR> Update

[Mark Jones]

No, this was an Ellison factory gasket and diaphragm. Ellison clearly states to 
use only 100LL. The problem was already there before the induction of the pure 
100LL.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
My Web site: http://www.flykr2s.com/
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
From: Randy Smith [mailto:crz...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 7:51 AM
To: Mark Jones; KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Update


Are you making your own gaskets? I found out a long
time ago that some gasket material will not work with
100LL. Did your problem start after you bought 100LL
It will make them swell. After they dry they will
shrink back to normal.

--- Mark Jones <flyk...@wi.rr.com> wrote:

> A lot of you are asking if I am back in the air yet.
> Not yet. I discovered some exterior cracks in the
> rubber hose which connects the carb to the intake
> pipes. Even though there were exterior cracks in the
> rubber, the cracks did not penetrate the interior
> walls of the hose and did not contribute to my
> engine problems. I just thought this would be a good
> time to replace the hoses. However the vendor I
> ordered them from misplaced my order and they did
> not ship out till last Wednesday. I did specify
> Priority Mail and that should have gotten them here
> yesterday had they actually shipped last Wednesday
> but they did not arrive. My plans were to install
> the carb back on the engine last night and do run
> ups, adjustments, etc and fly today since everything
> else is ready to go. Oh well, that did not happen so
> it looks like it will be next weekend before I have
> a chance to test fly her and that is only if I get
> the carb back on. The only things I have found which
> may have caused my engine to suddenly drop to idle
> was the diaphragm in the carb was slightly out of
> shape when compared to a new one. Also there was
> fluid in the pressure tube leading to the diaphragm
> chamber. That tube supplies pressure to the
> diaphragm which in turn actuates a fulcrum which
> opens up the metering tube allowing the proper
> amount of fuel into the carburetor. I sure hope this
> will solve my problem because I am getting the
> jitters since I have not flown in two weeks. The KR
> is an addiction and being denied flight in it causes
> withdrawal symptoms. I need a fix real bad..
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI 
> Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
> E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com
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KR> Update

[Rick Human]

Could it be Ethanol related?

Rick Human
Houston, Texas
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
To: "Randy Smith" <crz...@yahoo.com>; "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Update


> No, this was an Ellison factory gasket and diaphragm. Ellison clearly
states to use only 100LL. The problem was already there before the induction
of the pure 100LL.
>

KR> Update

[Mark Jones]

Yep, Ethanol will affect rubber and I had about 100 hours of 10% Ethanol
fuel through this carb. The diaphragm was out of shape compared to a new
one therefore that is what I am banking on right now.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
My Web site: http://www.flykr2s.com/
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com


-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Rick Human
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:00 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Update


Could it be Ethanol related?

Rick Human
Houston, Texas
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
To: "Randy Smith" <crz...@yahoo.com>; "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Update


> No, this was an Ellison factory gasket and diaphragm. Ellison clearly
states to use only 100LL. The problem was already there before the
induction
of the pure 100LL.
>


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KR> Update

[Mark Jones]

A lot of you are asking if I am back in the air yet. Not yet. I discovered some 
exterior cracks in the rubber hose which connects the carb to the intake pipes. 
Even though there were exterior cracks in the rubber, the cracks did not 
penetrate the interior walls of the hose and did not contribute to my engine 
problems. I just thought this would be a good time to replace the hoses. 
However the vendor I ordered them from misplaced my order and they did not ship 
out till last Wednesday. I did specify Priority Mail and that should have 
gotten them here yesterday had they actually shipped last Wednesday but they 
did not arrive. My plans were to install the carb back on the engine last night 
and do run ups, adjustments, etc and fly today since everything else is ready 
to go. Oh well, that did not happen so it looks like it will be next weekend 
before I have a chance to test fly her and that is only if I get the carb back 
on. The only things I have found which may have caused my engine to suddenly 
drop to idle was the diaphragm in the carb was slightly out of shape when 
compared to a new one. Also there was fluid in the pressure tube leading to the 
diaphragm chamber. That tube supplies pressure to the diaphragm which in turn 
actuates a fulcrum which opens up the metering tube allowing the proper amount 
of fuel into the carburetor. I sure hope this will solve my problem because I 
am getting the jitters since I have not flown in two weeks. The KR is an 
addiction and being denied flight in it causes withdrawal symptoms. I need a 
fix real bad..

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI 
Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com

KR> Update

[Myron (Dan) Freeman]

Something is chopping up the e-mail and leaving some of it out but it always 
includes the ending. What's happening?


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>; "Corvair Net" <corvaircr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 1:40 PM
Subject: KR> Update


>A lot of you are asking if I am back in the air yet. Not yet. I discovered 
>some exterior cracks in the rubber hose which connects the carb to the 
>intake pipes. Even though there were exterior cracks in the rubber, the 
>cracks did not penetrate the interior walls of the hose and did not 
>contribute to my engine problems. I just thought this would be a good time 
>to replace the hoses. However the vendor I ordered them from misplaced my 
>order and they did not ship out till last Wednesday. I did specify Priority 
>Mail and that should have gotten them here yesterday had they actually 
>shipped last Wednesday but they did not arrive. My plans were to install 
>the carb back on the engine last night and do run ups, adjustments, etc and 
>fly today since everything else is ready to go. Oh well, that did not 
>happen so it looks like it will be next weekend before I have a chance to 
>test fly her and that is only if I get the carb back on. The only things I 
>have found which may have caused my engine to su
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
> E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com
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KR> Update

[Lee Van Dyke]

Mark I talked to the guy who designed your Carbhe says diaphram,, sent 
it in and they will take care of it.

Lee 

KR> Update

[Mark Jones]

I have inspected every conceivable thing on my engine and have not found 
anything that points me in the right direction to correct to my engine problem. 
Right now my carburetor is disassembled on the work bench. I was hoping to find 
a bad diaphragm or other abnormality in there but nothing jumps out at me. I 
have a new diaphragm that I am going to install after I thoroughly clean and 
dry out the carb. The Ellison carb has a pressure vent (approximately 1/16" 
diameter x 3'' long) from the mouth of the carb through the body leading to the 
diaphragm. After I took the carb apart, I blew through this vent and noticed 
there was some gurgling sound in there as if fuel, oil or water were in the 
vent. This vent should be dry without any obstructions. The purpose of the 
diaphragm is to apply pressure on a spring loaded fulcrum which meters the 
amount of fuel allowed into the carb. If this is blocked or partially blocked, 
the performance of the carb would be affected. I hope to have the carb 
reassembled and back on the plane Sunday. I will let you know how the engine 
performs. I would do it tomorrow but I am getting up at 3 AM tomorrow to make 
the 500 mile drive to southern Illinois to return the trailer that was loaned 
to me. I should get there right about lunch time so I can take Gary Jones (the 
trailer owner) out to lunch. I think I will buy him a PRIME RIB lunch for 
letting me use his trailer. Total trip will be about 1000 miles in one day so 
if anyone wants to call me on my cell (262-366-3319) and chat, please do as it 
will help pass the time.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
My Web site: http://www.flykr2s.com/
Mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com

KR> Update

[Mark Jones]

Wings are back on the plane.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI 
Visit my web site: www.flykr2s.com
E-mail: flyk...@wi.rr.com

KR> Update on engine rebuild

[Joseph H. Horton]

  Guys
For those of you that saw my corvair powered KR at the gathering
and know that I tore it down the week before to repair a  crack in the
block also know that I had an oil leak. I was loosing about a quart every
2 1/2 hours. I have located it. I had thought that it was leaking out of
the push rod tubes and I had done something wrong on the left side. After
cleaning it up and running for short periods on the ground i found that
it was actually leaking around the cylinder base gaskets. This is not all
that surprising to me as this is the 3rd time that the engine has been
apart and reassembled with the same steel gasket. I did use the copper
RTV sealant with them but will have to take this side back apart and
clean it up and install new base gaskets. (really only about a 3 hour
job)
On the cracked block I only have a theory and that is when
splitting the block it comes apart very hard and I was using a block of
wood and a BFH (type of hammer) to tap it apart and the top inside corner
is one of the spots that I had put the block of wood to loosen the case
up. I may have fatigued it and caused the crack to start. It did not go
through any bolt holes and did not finish cracking from one place to
another. If this did cause it the crack took about 100 hours to develop
into something noticeable.
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, PA.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

KR> update -cracked block

[Joe H Horton]

Guys,
Just a quick note, I have the engine completely reassembled and
sitting back in the airframe. The welding of the block went well and the
aluminum seems to be very good quality and welded very cleanly. I had the
case halves bolted together during welding to maintain shape. I remade a
couple brackets and installed WW's deep oil pan that has been laying
around for 2 years now. 
I should have installation done in the morning and test run after
work and if that is fine maybe even a flight tomorrow. 
Right now all is looking good for early Thursday departure to the
Gathering
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

KR> Update

[Phil Matheson]

There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building
is OVER.

Dan I may have to start using you SAYING!!

I'm sanding ,sanding, sanding, and trying to decide on a colour scheme.
I'm off to Hospital for some minor surgery in a few days, then two weeks off 
work, depending how I feel
may be I can do a bit more sanding.

Phil Matheson
mathes...@dodo.com.au
New Web Page :
http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/
VH-PKR  ( Phil's KR)
61 3 58833588
Australia.( Down Under)
See My KR2 Building Web Page at:
OLD WEB: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html
See our VW Engines and Home built web page at
http://www.vw-engines.com/
www.homebuilt-aviation.com/

KR> Update

[airgu...@comcast.net]

I think I'd rather be sanding than in surgery.  Good luck on both!

--
Paul 
KR2 Stretched 
Derry, NH

-- Original message -- 
From: "Phil Matheson"  

> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building 
> is OVER. 
> 
> Dan I may have to start using you SAYING!! 
> 
> I'm sanding ,sanding, sanding, and trying to decide on a colour scheme. 
> I'm off to Hospital for some minor surgery in a few days, then two weeks off 
> work, depending how I feel 
> may be I can do a bit more sanding. 
> 
> Phil Matheson 
> mathes...@dodo.com.au 
> New Web Page : 
> http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/ 
> VH-PKR ( Phil's KR) 
> 61 3 58833588 
> Australia.( Down Under) 
> See My KR2 Building Web Page at: 
> OLD WEB: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html 
> See our VW Engines and Home built web page at 
> http://www.vw-engines.com/ 
> www.homebuilt-aviation.com/ 
> 
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KR> Update

[Keith & Martha Crawford]

Hi All

I made up some mock fiberglass layups. With and without peelply and  
four hours of curing time and 24 hours of cure time.

see my website for details.

Keith Crawford
Saint Johns, MI

KR> Update

[Dan Heath]

OK, how about a link to your website? 

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building
is OVER.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---

From: Keith & Martha Crawford
I made up some mock fiberglass layups. With and without peelply and
four hours of curing time and 24 hours of cure time.

see my website for details.

KR> Update

[Keith & Martha Crawford]

oops the update link must not of worked. try this.
http://martha.simerson.net/?cat=2

keith crawford
saint johns MI

KR> Update

[Joe H Horton]

Guys.
   Happy Father's Day, Not a bad week so far. I flew N357CJ  seven of
the last eight days for close to 10 hours. I did get a flat tire again
yesterday on the left side this time and the small hole was at the exact
same place inside sidewall with nothing being found that would make the
puncture. It went flat will I was getting a soda pop after fueling up and
it sure made it tough getting it back to the hanger.
I have a little trouble this morning to investigate. Will sitting
at another airport waiting for traffic I noticed the EIS flashing which
is nothing new considering the way it acts when the instrument gets hot.
But this time it was the low oil pressure warning and that never happened
before. I did a run up and it came up to 42 psi from the 28 that it was
showing at idle. I choose to fly back home which was only about 10 min
away. I kept a eye on it during flight and it didn't drop below 38 psi. I
did just a base to finial to shorten the time in the air and carried a
little power for the approach to keep pressure up. During roll out it
dropped back into the 28psi range again. There was no evidence of loosing
oil so I need to start looking under the  hood to see what I can find
I'll let ya know what I find. 
Kind of a bummer as I had planned to take my father inlaw for a
flight on for Father's Day.
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

KR> Update

[Kenneth Wiltrout]

Joe I've had three flats in 99U, In my case I think it was air pressure 
related, I used to keep the pressure low to help with a bad landing but all 
of my flats occured due to the inner tube pinching, now i run 35 psi and 
plenty of talcum powder when assembling. I also carry a spare tube and 
enough tools to get the job done. My flats always occure in uncivilized 
territorty.

Or could it have been that the tire distorted from the 200MPH fly by at 9D4. 
Like I said that thing sounds like a Bonanza---Way Cool. That climb 
out should qualify you for a rotorcraft ticket.
I was gonna go to Ocean City, NJ today but the Funk was terrible, so off to 
KTown again for breakfast I went.

Kenny




- Original Message - 
From: "Joe H Horton" <joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com>
To: <corvaircr...@mylist.net>; <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 9:03 AM
Subject: KR> Update


> Guys.
>   Happy Father's Day, Not a bad week so far. I flew N357CJ  seven of
> the last eight days for close to 10 hours. I did get a flat tire again
> yesterday on the left side this time and the small hole was at the exact
> same place inside sidewall with nothing being found that would make the
> puncture. It went flat will I was getting a soda pop after fueling up and
> it sure made it tough getting it back to the hanger.
>I have a little trouble this morning to investigate. Will sitting
> at another airport waiting for traffic I noticed the EIS flashing which
> is nothing new considering the way it acts when the instrument gets hot.
> But this time it was the low oil pressure warning and that never happened
> before. I did a run up and it came up to 42 psi from the 28 that it was
> showing at idle. I choose to fly back home which was only about 10 min
> away. I kept a eye on it during flight and it didn't drop below 38 psi. I
> did just a base to finial to shorten the time in the air and carried a
> little power for the approach to keep pressure up. During roll out it
> dropped back into the 28psi range again. There was no evidence of loosing
> oil so I need to start looking under the  hood to see what I can find
> I'll let ya know what I find.
>Kind of a bummer as I had planned to take my father inlaw for a
> flight on for Father's Day.
> Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa.
> joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
>
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KR> Update-reply

[Joe H Horton]

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:45:12 -0400 "Clare Snyder"
 writes:
> Joe, I think you are pinching your tube on landing. Try higher 
> pressure and 
> see what happens. As for your oil pressure, what oil are you 
> running, and 
> how many hours on the change???
>
Tires---
I had pressure at 35 psi but it apparently had dropped in the
past few weeks to about 30 psi. I increased all to 37 psi now.
Oil--- 
The oil is just about due to change already - about 23 hours on
it. I have been using 10-30 in warm weather and 5-30 in the cold. It is a
semi synthetic and I also put in a pint or so of slick 50 with each oil
change. 
I did take off the headset to see if I could hear anything strange from
the engine. It seemed to run fine. In fact on the first climb out this
morning I was thinking to my self how smooth and quite it seemed today.
I have the high volume pump installed and pressure has never been
below 35psi and 28psi is where I set the warning on the EIS. 42 psi has
been the normal operating pressure all along.
I installed the instruments for a reason and if I don't
investigate what is going on I could be out flying right now in ignorant
bliss. I have to find out what changed. I will take advise. Even the EIS
is suspect and I still have a loaner that was ready to ship back that I
may plug in just to check.
Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa.
joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com

KR> Update

[Riley Collins]

Joe, 
Are you putting talcum powder in tire and on tube?  It will prevent pinching 
and puncture if the tube rolls or slips.  Just my 2 cents.

Best Regards,

Riley Collins
Rutledge, TN
KR2-SS Lycoming

 Joe H Horton  wrote: 

> ___I did get a flat tire again 
yesterday on the left side this time and the small hole was at the exact 
same place inside sidewall with nothing being found that would make the 
puncture.
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KR> Update-reply

[ifly...@aol.com]

Hey Joe - I would set your EIS oil pressure to 20 psi - idle  pressure.  If 
you get 20 at hot idle that is very good - cruise should be  around 45 psi.

Sounds like your having fun - me too - just love flying !

Bill and 41768

KR> Military fuels and KR Update

[D F Lively]

Bob:

I knew that was the case but just cout not remembe what it was called.  I picked
up from a news item in the early part of the war when an embed reporter
interviewed a "Apache" pilot that he landed at the fuel point to fuel up.  Now
we know it is called JP-8

Don
  

Robert Schmitt wrote:

> Sorry guys, need to correct this. The army does run essentially one fuel -
> JP8. It is a diesel fuel with a certain higher testing standard for
> aircraft. It can not be used in spark ignition engines.  The army runs
> primarily JP8 in all equipment. The army has very few engines which use
> mogas, only small generators and leased/owned-civilian vehicles. We still
> need to have some Mogas for these.
>
>
>
> My KR2-S is in final stages of sanding and finishing. Going well. I should
> have it at the airport for DAR inspection end of June or early July.
>
>
>
> Rob Schmitt (National Guard Colonel, logistics)
>
> Kansas City, Mo
>
> www.Robert7721.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Message: 11
>
> Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 06:53:46 -0500
>
> From: D F Lively 
>
> Subject: Re: KR> Ethanol
>
> To: KRnet 
>
> Message-ID: <44783dca.35352...@interl.net>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
>
> Netters:
>
>
>
> Gleaned from new accounts it has came to my attention that the military uses
> a
>
> grade of diesel fuel that fuels everything from HumVees to aircraft.  Of
> course
>
> they do it for logistical reasons.  This fact came to my attention in a news
>
> report where in the background I observed a "Chopper" land near a fuel
> tanker
>
> and the driver finished fueling a "Hum Vee" and then went over and proceeded
> to
>
> fuel the chopper from the same hose.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
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KR> Military fuels and KR Update

[Robert Schmitt]

Sorry guys, need to correct this. The army does run essentially one fuel -
JP8. It is a diesel fuel with a certain higher testing standard for
aircraft. It can not be used in spark ignition engines.  The army runs
primarily JP8 in all equipment. The army has very few engines which use
mogas, only small generators and leased/owned-civilian vehicles. We still
need to have some Mogas for these.



My KR2-S is in final stages of sanding and finishing. Going well. I should
have it at the airport for DAR inspection end of June or early July.



Rob Schmitt (National Guard Colonel, logistics)

Kansas City, Mo

www.Robert7721.com





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Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 06:53:46 -0500

From: D F Lively 

Subject: Re: KR> Ethanol

To: KRnet 

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Netters:



Gleaned from new accounts it has came to my attention that the military uses
a

grade of diesel fuel that fuels everything from HumVees to aircraft.  Of
course

they do it for logistical reasons.  This fact came to my attention in a news

report where in the background I observed a "Chopper" land near a fuel
tanker

and the driver finished fueling a "Hum Vee" and then went over and proceeded
to

fuel the chopper from the same hose.



Don

KR> update on William Wynne's website...

[Oscar Zuniga]

...is athttp://www.flycorvair.com/hangar.html .  With information about the 
upcoming Corvair College in Canada, as well as interesting photos on a 
quick-build Zenith underway.

Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net

KR> Update.

[Mark Jones]

N886MJ will be reborn and take to the skies once again on this Good Friday if 
the weather holds out. I too will feel alive again once I get back in the air.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA 
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my NEW
KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com

KR> update on airplane

[Bob Glidden]

Just to let everyone know my plane is back home safe and sound in my barn.Eric 
and I both worked most of the afternoon and got the hanger all cleaned out.We 
moved Erics plane into a hanger that still has a roof on it and he will pick it 
up tomorrow.I also would like to thank everyone that emailed and said they wish 
they lived closer so they could help,believe me I wish you all lived closer.I 
have a lot of spare building materials about 500 2x4's different lengths,,just 
to bad I can't use them on the airplane.Thanks again to all...

Bob Glidden
Eminence,Indiana
KR2S N181FW (building)
Corvair 110
glid...@ccrtc.com

KR> update on airplane

[troy Mcgrew]

You could make one mean workbench with all of those 2x4's!!
Good Luck!!

KR> update on airplane

[D F Lively]

Yes:

A very large work bench and a "Build In"!

Don
  

troy Mcgrew wrote:

> You could make one mean workbench with all of those 2x4's!!
> Good Luck!!
>
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KR> Update

[D F Lively]

Mark:

I know the look well from pulling my new project up hear from So IL on a 
trailer with an 8 ft long by 7 ft wide bed with the wings on padding & 
cushioning under the belly of the plane.

Don

Mark Jones wrote:

> My fuselage, with a running flight ready engine and a fresh coat of paint, 
> went back to the airport yesterday. She did me proud as I trailered her the 
> nine miles to the airport. I love watching the looks and expressions of  the 
> unfortunate earth bound folks looking at this machine pass them by. Kind of 
> make me want to keep it on a trailer and just pull it around everyday for 
> kicks. Anyway, I HATE SANDING and I have been sanding, filling, sanding, more 
> filling and more sanding for weeks on my right wing as I rebuilt my engine. 
> Tonight, I finally decided that was enough and I will start applying the 
> paint on the right wing tomorrow night. I will take the finished right wing 
> to the airport this Saturday and install it on the plane and bring the left 
> wing home for sanding, filling, sanding filling...I HATE SANDING..I am 
> committed to be back in the air by April 15th..You guys make me keep my 
> word on that deadline!!!
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my NEW
> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>
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KR> Update

[Brian Kraut]

I say just get the engine done and fly the wings in primer to Sun and Fun!

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net
[mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
Mark Jones
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:04 PM
To: KR Net
Subject: KR> Update


My fuselage, with a running flight ready engine and a fresh coat of paint,
went back to the airport yesterday. She did me proud as I trailered her the
nine miles to the airport. I love watching the looks and expressions of  the
unfortunate earth bound folks looking at this machine pass them by. Kind of
make me want to keep it on a trailer and just pull it around everyday for
kicks. Anyway, I HATE SANDING and I have been sanding, filling, sanding,
more filling and more sanding for weeks on my right wing as I rebuilt my
engine. Tonight, I finally decided that was enough and I will start applying
the paint on the right wing tomorrow night. I will take the finished right
wing to the airport this Saturday and install it on the plane and bring the
left wing home for sanding, filling, sanding filling...I HATE SANDING..I
am committed to be back in the air by April 15th..You guys make me keep
my word on that deadline!!!

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my NEW
KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com


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KR> Update

[Mark Jones]

The engine is done and has just over a hour run time on it since
re-installed. There are other family commitments which are keeping me away
from SnF this year. Next year, yes, I will be there.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
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Visit my NEW
KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com



- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:10 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Update


> I say just get the engine done and fly the wings in primer to Sun and Fun!
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net
> [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
> Mark Jones
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:04 PM
> To: KR Net
> Subject: KR> Update
>
>
> My fuselage, with a running flight ready engine and a fresh coat of paint,
> went back to the airport yesterday. She did me proud as I trailered her
the
> nine miles to the airport. I love watching the looks and expressions of
the
> unfortunate earth bound folks looking at this machine pass them by. Kind
of
> make me want to keep it on a trailer and just pull it around everyday for
> kicks. Anyway, I HATE SANDING and I have been sanding, filling, sanding,
> more filling and more sanding for weeks on my right wing as I rebuilt my
> engine. Tonight, I finally decided that was enough and I will start
applying
> the paint on the right wing tomorrow night. I will take the finished right
> wing to the airport this Saturday and install it on the plane and bring
the
> left wing home for sanding, filling, sanding filling...I HATE
SANDING..I
> am committed to be back in the air by April 15th..You guys make me
keep
> my word on that deadline!!!
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my NEW
> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>
>
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KR> Update, now SNF

[Dana Overall]

>From: "Brian Kraut" 
>I say just get the engine done and fly the wings in primer to Sun and Fun!
>
>Brian Kraut

Now that's a thought Jonesey!!!  Get that thing pointed south.


Elaine and I are leaving out Saturday morning and spending the night at 
Langford Manor then to the gulf coast to do some island hopping for a few 
days.  We are looking to pull into SNF either Weds. or Thursday (probably 
Weds if I have my way:-).  Mark is planning on pulling in and camping with 
us, along with Doug Steen, either on the treeline next to where Brian camps 
in the woods or along I think it is row 20.  Either way, we will be easy to 
find.  My cell (with Anywhere Map) is 859 625-2844.  I'm planning on doin 
some hangin at Brian's and telling lies.inverted, in the twin, 
in icing.you know the kind:-)



Dana Overall
1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
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KR> Update

[Brian Kraut]

I guess the important thing is that you could be there if you wanted!  That
beats not being able to go by a long shot.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
Behalf Of Mark Jones
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:32 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Update


The engine is done and has just over a hour run time on it since
re-installed. There are other family commitments which are keeping me away
from SnF this year. Next year, yes, I will be there.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my NEW
KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com



- Original Message -
From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:10 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Update


> I say just get the engine done and fly the wings in primer to Sun and Fun!
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net
> [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
> Mark Jones
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:04 PM
> To: KR Net
> Subject: KR> Update
>
>
> My fuselage, with a running flight ready engine and a fresh coat of paint,
> went back to the airport yesterday. She did me proud as I trailered her
the
> nine miles to the airport. I love watching the looks and expressions of
the
> unfortunate earth bound folks looking at this machine pass them by. Kind
of
> make me want to keep it on a trailer and just pull it around everyday for
> kicks. Anyway, I HATE SANDING and I have been sanding, filling, sanding,
> more filling and more sanding for weeks on my right wing as I rebuilt my
> engine. Tonight, I finally decided that was enough and I will start
applying
> the paint on the right wing tomorrow night. I will take the finished right
> wing to the airport this Saturday and install it on the plane and bring
the
> left wing home for sanding, filling, sanding filling...I HATE
SANDING..I
> am committed to be back in the air by April 15th..You guys make me
keep
> my word on that deadline!!!
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my NEW
> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>
>
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KR> Update

[Mark Jones]

Nope, looks like I may have some engine problems. Did a run today and the
engine started developing a knock at the #1 cylinder. I would not fly it
even if the paint was finished. Which BTW, the right wing now has it's first
coat of paint on it.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my NEW
KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com



- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:45 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Update


> I guess the important thing is that you could be there if you wanted!
That
> beats not being able to go by a long shot.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Mark Jones
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:32 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Update
>
>
> The engine is done and has just over a hour run time on it since
> re-installed. There are other family commitments which are keeping me away
> from SnF this year. Next year, yes, I will be there.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my NEW
> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:10 PM
> Subject: RE: KR> Update
>
>
> > I say just get the engine done and fly the wings in primer to Sun and
Fun!
> >
> > Brian Kraut
> > Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> > www.engalt.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net
> > [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
> > Mark Jones
> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:04 PM
> > To: KR Net
> > Subject: KR> Update
> >
> >
> > My fuselage, with a running flight ready engine and a fresh coat of
paint,
> > went back to the airport yesterday. She did me proud as I trailered her
> the
> > nine miles to the airport. I love watching the looks and expressions of
> the
> > unfortunate earth bound folks looking at this machine pass them by. Kind
> of
> > make me want to keep it on a trailer and just pull it around everyday
for
> > kicks. Anyway, I HATE SANDING and I have been sanding, filling, sanding,
> > more filling and more sanding for weeks on my right wing as I rebuilt my
> > engine. Tonight, I finally decided that was enough and I will start
> applying
> > the paint on the right wing tomorrow night. I will take the finished
right
> > wing to the airport this Saturday and install it on the plane and bring
> the
> > left wing home for sanding, filling, sanding filling...I HATE
> SANDING..I
> > am committed to be back in the air by April 15th..You guys make me
> keep
> > my word on that deadline!!!
> >
> > Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> > Wales, WI  USA
> > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> > Visit my NEW
> > KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
> >
> >
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KR> Update

[D F Lively]

Mark:

Ouch,  I hope it is not that serious what are you running for engine?  At least
you are working on making it look pretty.

Good Luck

don
  

Mark Jones wrote:

> Nope, looks like I may have some engine problems. Did a run today and the
> engine started developing a knock at the #1 cylinder. I would not fly it
> even if the paint was finished. Which BTW, the right wing now has it's first
> coat of paint on it.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my NEW
> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:45 PM
> Subject: RE: KR> Update
>
> > I guess the important thing is that you could be there if you wanted!
> That
> > beats not being able to go by a long shot.
> >
> > Brian Kraut
> > Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> > www.engalt.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> > Behalf Of Mark Jones
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:32 AM
> > To: KRnet
> > Subject: Re: KR> Update
> >
> >
> > The engine is done and has just over a hour run time on it since
> > re-installed. There are other family commitments which are keeping me away
> > from SnF this year. Next year, yes, I will be there.
> >
> > Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> > Wales, WI  USA
> > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> > Visit my NEW
> > KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:10 PM
> > Subject: RE: KR> Update
> >
> >
> > > I say just get the engine done and fly the wings in primer to Sun and
> Fun!
> > >
> > > Brian Kraut
> > > Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> > > www.engalt.com
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net
> > > [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
> > > Mark Jones
> > > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:04 PM
> > > To: KR Net
> > > Subject: KR> Update
> > >
> > >
> > > My fuselage, with a running flight ready engine and a fresh coat of
> paint,
> > > went back to the airport yesterday. She did me proud as I trailered her
> > the
> > > nine miles to the airport. I love watching the looks and expressions of
> > the
> > > unfortunate earth bound folks looking at this machine pass them by. Kind
> > of
> > > make me want to keep it on a trailer and just pull it around everyday
> for
> > > kicks. Anyway, I HATE SANDING and I have been sanding, filling, sanding,
> > > more filling and more sanding for weeks on my right wing as I rebuilt my
> > > engine. Tonight, I finally decided that was enough and I will start
> > applying
> > > the paint on the right wing tomorrow night. I will take the finished
> right
> > > wing to the airport this Saturday and install it on the plane and bring
> > the
> > > left wing home for sanding, filling, sanding filling...I HATE
> > SANDING..I
> > > am committed to be back in the air by April 15th..You guys make me
> > keep
> > > my word on that deadline!!!
> > >
> > > Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> > > Wales, WI  USA
> > > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> > > Visit my NEW
> > > KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
> > >
> > >
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KR> Update

[Mark Jones]

I have a Corvair.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my NEW
KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com



- Original Message - 
From: "D F Lively" <riksh...@interl.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:52 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Update


> Mark:
>
> Ouch,  I hope it is not that serious what are you running for engine?  At
least
> you are working on making it look pretty.
>
> Good Luck
>
> don
>   
>
> Mark Jones wrote:
>
> > Nope, looks like I may have some engine problems. Did a run today and
the
> > engine started developing a knock at the #1 cylinder. I would not fly it
> > even if the paint was finished. Which BTW, the right wing now has it's
first
> > coat of paint on it.
> >
> > Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> > Wales, WI  USA
> > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> > Visit my NEW
> > KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:45 PM
> > Subject: RE: KR> Update
> >
> > > I guess the important thing is that you could be there if you wanted!
> > That
> > > beats not being able to go by a long shot.
> > >
> > > Brian Kraut
> > > Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> > > www.engalt.com
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> > > Behalf Of Mark Jones
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:32 AM
> > > To: KRnet
> > > Subject: Re: KR> Update
> > >
> > >
> > > The engine is done and has just over a hour run time on it since
> > > re-installed. There are other family commitments which are keeping me
away
> > > from SnF this year. Next year, yes, I will be there.
> > >
> > > Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> > > Wales, WI  USA
> > > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> > > Visit my NEW
> > > KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
> > > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:10 PM
> > > Subject: RE: KR> Update
> > >
> > >
> > > > I say just get the engine done and fly the wings in primer to Sun
and
> > Fun!
> > > >
> > > > Brian Kraut
> > > > Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> > > > www.engalt.com
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net
> > > > [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
> > > > Mark Jones
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 11:04 PM
> > > > To: KR Net
> > > > Subject: KR> Update
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My fuselage, with a running flight ready engine and a fresh coat of
> > paint,
> > > > went back to the airport yesterday. She did me proud as I trailered
her
> > > the
> > > > nine miles to the airport. I love watching the looks and expressions
of
> > > the
> > > > unfortunate earth bound folks looking at this machine pass them by.
Kind
> > > of
> > > > make me want to keep it on a trailer and just pull it around
everyday
> > for
> > > > kicks. Anyway, I HATE SANDING and I have been sanding, filling,
sanding,
> > > > more filling and more sanding for weeks on my right wing as I
rebuilt my
> > > > engine. Tonight, I finally decided that was enough and I will start
> > > applying
> > > > the paint on the right wing tomorrow night. I will take the finished
> > right
> > > > wing to the airport this Saturday and install it on the plane and
bring
> > > the
> > > > left wing home for sanding, filling, sanding filling...I HATE
> > > SANDING..I
> > > > am committed to be back in the air by April 15th..You guys make
me
> > > keep
> > > > my word on that deadline!!!
> > > >
> > > > Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> > > > Wales, WI  USA
> > > > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> > > > Visit my NEW
> > &

KR> Update - corvair

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Guys - if you get a chance - look at the new FLYCORVAIR.com update and  click 
on the photo of the 601.   You will download a great little clip  of a new 
flying corvair -- ENJOY!


See you at Sun n Fun!

Bill and N41768