[libreoffice-l10n] Re:Removal of translations from NL English site at libreoffice.org

2011-01-10 Thread Dr. Bernhard Dippold
Hi David, all,

David Nelson wrote:
 Hi, :-)
 
 On libreoffice.org, we have the various international sites of the NL
 projects, with content in that particular NL.
 
 On one or two pages of the English main site, there are translations
 into a couple of languages for which there is an NL site.
 
 My idea is that this is inconsistent, and that it can cause people to
 believe that this is the sum total of localized content on the
 libreoffice.org site, causing them to ignore the International Sites
 page.
+1
 
 I suggest removing them, because the NL sites already contain any and
 all content you want in your NL language.
 
 Thoughts?
 
For the present situation I don't see any reason why to host two pages (even if 
one is a redirect of the other) with the same content:

www.libreoffice.org/[subpage]/[translation] and [nl].libreoffice.org/[subpage]

Removing the translations would allow to get rid of the additional line below 
the navigation, leading to a more consistent look and feel.

There are just two points to mention:

1. I don't know if there are teams who don't want to admin their  full 
localized subsite. They are the only ones who might profit from the current 
situation where they only translate a few pages. In my eyes it should not be a 
problem to provide them with a minimal set of already created pages (e.g. 
Main, Download and Features) they only have to fill with content.

2. If SilverStripe is able to read the browser's language, it might be a 
mid-term idea to have a multi-language main page (presented in the user's 
language) while the links are leading to the nl-pages.

This would mean to have the rest of the international site should move to 
en.libreoffice.org (a step to improve the equality of different languages) 
while keeping the first impression consistent (with an area dedicated to local 
particularities) and strenghtening the brand.

Both points are no hindrance to remove the translated sub-pages IMHO.

Best regards

Bernhard




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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Commit localized strings for LibO-3.3-rc3 release

2011-01-10 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi Mikel,

 Von: Mikel Pascual

 In eu, here is the problem:
 http://pootle.documentfoundation.org/eu/libo33/lo-build-eu.po/translate/?unit=230100
 
 Had to change WORD for CHAR.
 
 I can only make suggestions, and there's nobody who can commit changes.
 Maybe some admin could commit the change?

Done.
But I'd guess the text should also be modified (I have no idea of Basque, it 
looks
wrong, if the text for CHAR and WORD is exactly the same.)
 
 
 
 
 By the way, it would be great to be able to commit new translations, as
 nobody else seems to be interested in contributing in LibO's eu translation.

Done - I granted admin privilieges for Basque to your account.

Can you please update http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams, just
for the case that other people want to join your team :)

regards,

André

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Commit localized strings for LibO-3.3-rc3 release

2011-01-10 Thread Mikel Pascual
Thanks a lot.


About the translation: it's strange
The string with RB_CHAR (Radio Button Char, I assume) refers to word-based
compare, and the string with RB_WORD (the precedent one) refers to
char-based compare.
Maybe the original strings are wrong?

The basque translation just translates word with hitza and character
with karaktere. Am I missing something?



About the wiki edit: done.
I also saw that the arabic contact was elachechea...@*gamil*.com and I'll
just post elachechea...@*gmail*.com, as I guess that's a misspelling.




On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Andre Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.netwrote:

 Hi Mikel,

  Von: Mikel Pascual

  In eu, here is the problem:
 
 http://pootle.documentfoundation.org/eu/libo33/lo-build-eu.po/translate/?unit=230100
 
  Had to change WORD for CHAR.
 
  I can only make suggestions, and there's nobody who can commit changes.
  Maybe some admin could commit the change?

 Done.
 But I'd guess the text should also be modified (I have no idea of Basque,
 it looks
 wrong, if the text for CHAR and WORD is exactly the same.)
 
 
 
 
  By the way, it would be great to be able to commit new translations, as
  nobody else seems to be interested in contributing in LibO's eu
 translation.

 Done - I granted admin privilieges for Basque to your account.

 Can you please update http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams,
 just
 for the case that other people want to join your team :)

 regards,

 André

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Some help needed regarding several strings

2011-01-10 Thread Andras Timar
2011.01.09. 16:30 keltezéssel, Yaron Shahrabani írta:

 As soon as I will manage to find the name of the Koshin (kid) language, the
 translation will reach 100%.
 

This is funny. In LibreOffice source kid is not Koshin but special key
id pseudo language (hence the kid abbreviation). Unfortunately it is
also an ISO language code, and somebody treated it so. Currently
LibreOffice is not translated into Koshin.

Regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Some help needed regarding several strings

2011-01-10 Thread Yaron Shahrabani
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com wrote:

 2011.01.09. 16:30 keltezéssel, Yaron Shahrabani írta:

  As soon as I will manage to find the name of the Koshin (kid) language,
 the
  translation will reach 100%.
 

 This is funny. In LibreOffice source kid is not Koshin but special key
 id pseudo language (hence the kid abbreviation). Unfortunately it is
 also an ISO language code, and somebody treated it so. Currently
 LibreOffice is not translated into Koshin.

LOL That's histerical!
You really made me laugh!

Kind regards,
Yaron Shahrabni.


 Regards,
 Andras

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[libreoffice-l10n] OpenOffice.org Malayalam Project Owner signing in.

2011-01-10 Thread Manu Unni
Hi all,

I am Manu Unni signing in. What should I do to start Malayalam
in LibreOffice. I am volunteering to lead the Malayalam l10n project.
Kindly add Malayalam to the Pootle List and also the LanguageTeams
wiki.

What should I do to start the website ml.libreoffice.org

-Manu
http://ml.openoffice.org

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] OpenOffice.org Malayalam Project Owner signing in.

2011-01-10 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi Manu, Namaste :)

On 11/01/2011 09:23, Manu Unni wrote:

Hi all,

 I am Manu Unni signing in. What should I do to start Malayalam
in LibreOffice. I am volunteering to lead the Malayalam l10n project.
Kindly add Malayalam to the Pootle List and also the LanguageTeams
wiki.


Did you register on Pootle already? Please, also add your team contact 
here :

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams
The process for 3.3 is almost over, but you'll find the relevant 
information here

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3_3
Please also complete the table on this page, that will help for the process.


What should I do to start the website ml.libreoffice.org


- Create an account here
https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register

- request the creation of a site on the website list and give the name 
of it and the code to use


- if there is a team already: list all members that should be added in 
the mail (preferably using the email-address used to register), and 
state whether to grant author or publisher right, who to set as subsite 
admin(s). If none is specified, first one to request the site will be 
entered as subsite admin, all others as publisher.


Kind regards
Sophie
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[libreoffice-l10n] ODF and OmegaT

2011-01-10 Thread Jean-Christophe Helary
Alexander Thurgood wrote:

 Hi Jean-Christophe,
 
 Le 09/01/11 15:27, Jean-Christophe Helary a écrit :
  OmegaT does not require XLIFF to translate ODF. And you still get a
  TMX memory from the process. The TMX can later be used for other
  parts of the localization process.
 
 I seem to recall that OmegaT doesn't handle numbering styles very well,
 or at least it didn't when I last tried it a few months ago. This was
 the real blocker for me with regard to OmegaT , but maybe it is just my
 inexperience with using it.

If that is the case then it is not related to your lack of experience with the 
tool but to a bug in the code. I am not experiencing that although I use OmegaT 
everyday on relatively complex ODT/DOCX documents.

By the way, I am not trying to push the use of OmegaT.

I am just saying that XLIFF is good in some use cases, mostly when you have a 
back-end process where you can extract TM data and inject them into the XLIFF 
(a la PO's fuzzies, but better). When you don't have access to such a process, 
then it is better to work directly in the source file.

Especially since in the end you'll get the same TM data.



Jean-Christophe Helary

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] OpenOffice.org Malayalam Project Owner signing in.

2011-01-10 Thread Manu Unni
On 1/11/11, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Manu, Namaste :)

 On 11/01/2011 09:23, Manu Unni wrote:
 Hi all,

  I am Manu Unni signing in. What should I do to start Malayalam
 in LibreOffice. I am volunteering to lead the Malayalam l10n project.
 Kindly add Malayalam to the Pootle List and also the LanguageTeams
 wiki.

 Did you register on Pootle already? Please, also add your team contact
 here :
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams
 The process for 3.3 is almost over, but you'll find the relevant
 information here
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3_3
 Please also complete the table on this page, that will help for the process.


Done...

 What should I do to start the website ml.libreoffice.org

 - Create an account here
 https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register


Done...

 - request the creation of a site on the website list and give the name
 of it and the code to use

How do I do that? Whom should I mail to?


 - if there is a team already: list all members that should be added in
 the mail (preferably using the email-address used to register), and
 state whether to grant author or publisher right, who to set as subsite
 admin(s). If none is specified, first one to request the site will be
 entered as subsite admin, all others as publisher.

 Kind regards
 Sophie
 --
 Founding member of The Document Foundation

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] OpenOffice.org Malayalam Project Owner signing in.

2011-01-10 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi Manu,
On 11/01/2011 10:35, Manu Unni wrote:

On 1/11/11, Sophie Gautiergautier.sop...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi Manu, Namaste :)

On 11/01/2011 09:23, Manu Unni wrote:

Hi all,

  I am Manu Unni signing in. What should I do to start Malayalam
in LibreOffice. I am volunteering to lead the Malayalam l10n project.
Kindly add Malayalam to the Pootle List and also the LanguageTeams
wiki.


Did you register on Pootle already? Please, also add your team contact
here :
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language_Teams
The process for 3.3 is almost over, but you'll find the relevant
information here
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3_3
Please also complete the table on this page, that will help for the process.




Done...


What should I do to start the website ml.libreoffice.org


- Create an account here
https://www.libreoffice.org/ForumMemberProfile/register



Done...


- request the creation of a site on the website list and give the name
of it and the code to use


How do I do that? Whom should I mail to?


You will have to subscribe to the website mailing list here
website+subscr...@libreoffice.org
or you mail me the informations and I'll forward them to the list.

Kind regards
Sophie

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