Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice stickers - what do you need?

[Muhammet Kara]

Hi Mike,

All of September 2017, June 2017, and June 2013 looks good. (I have just 
added Turkish translations for September 2017 and June 2017 to the wiki 
page.)


People also love the blue "I love Free and Open Formats" stickers. (I 
was going to translate it, but couldn't find the source file.)


I would also be happy to see some stickers towards new/potential code 
contributors. (We talked about it before: "Hacking in the front line"). 
I am also attaching a variation of the June 2017 sticker with this in 
mind. (Not a designer here; so it is only to reflect the idea.)


I think 1000 stickers would be enough for a year. We can use around 400 
for starters. (For the upcoming events at the end of this month, and in 
the next month.)


And sorry for the late reply. :)

Cheers,
Muhammet

On 03/08/2018 06:22 PM, Mike Saunders wrote:

Hi everyone,

We at The Document Foundation are going to order some more stickers
soon, to hand out at events. We have designs in English here:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Material#Stickers_.28designs_for.29

Then there are the "Proud contributor" stickers from the Month of
LibreOffice:

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2017/07/17/month-libreoffice-stickers-action/

But we'd like to hear from native-lang projects -- what do you need? Are
there particular stickers, designs or translations you'd like to have
for your local events and communities? You can see the .odg versions of
some stickers on the wiki page, but just let me know if you need more
for translations...

Cheers,
Mike





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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Proofing Tool GUI - Hyphenation support

[Marco A.G. Pinto]

Hi,

What is "FA feature"?

Could you send me the speller (.dic + .aff)?

I usually implement features with the help of users who send me spellers
and tell me what PTG should do.

Thanks!

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On 09/04/2018 13:53, Krunose wrote:
> The thing is that Croatian dictionary is not using classes for
> connecting words to classes, it rather uses AF feature and seams that
> PTG is not handling that right.
>
> Is that true?
>
> Kruno 


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Breaking News!... Help pages can be edited directly in gerrit.

[Sophie]

Hi Sophia,
Le 08/04/2018 à 12:01, Sophia Schröder a écrit :
> I experienced them in older versions of LibreOffice in German, where the
> old behaviour were used.
> 
> I changed (and proofreaded, while at it) already our help in German with
> the syntax:
> 
> blah; blubbfoo;
> bar
> 
> So there should be correct.

I don't understand what you want to achieve here. The space between
'blah;' and 'blubb' is not needed, the help index is build as blah=first
level, blubb=second level of indentation.
See here for an explanation
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UI_and_Help_files_Content_Guide#.3Cbookmark_value.3E.3C.2Fbookmark_value.3E
I won't add any space because as I said it's a great way to recognize
that it's an index entry.
> 
> But I will have a closer look in the next days for examples.
> I think the patches with this kind of changes in
> can wait and lurk in gerrit meanwhile. ;-)
> 
> Others can be merge meanwhile,
> b/c the double spaces appear in flowing text only.

There are a lot of double spaces added in sentences where it is real
spaces (and will have an incidence in the look and quality of the en_US
help), I think (I might be wrong) this is the a problem with the help
tool that should be corrected, or at least be removed before committing
the patch. I've absolutely no time to dedicate to it at the moment, but
if someone would like to have a look at it, it would be great.

Cheers
Sophie
> 
> Am 08.04.2018 um 11:43 schrieb Martin Srebotnjak:
>> Hi, Sophia,
>>
>> I do not see these glitches in LibreOffice help. Can you send me a
>> screenshot?
>>
>> Thanks, m.
>>
>> 2018-04-08 11:35 GMT+02:00 Sophia Schröder
>> >> :
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> it causes visual glitches, like comma faults, at least in the old help
>>> system.
>>>
>>> So yes, I think so.
>>>
>>> Assuming the most translation were done already correctly
>>> it is also an opportunity to review own translations.
>>>
>>> Otherwise there are just 2 clicks, no?
>>>
>>> And it is not a long where it may "disturb" translators.
>>> Once it is done, it is done. Except new strings of course.
>>>
>>> And there don't come in a big bunch and I am also testing in the moment,
>>> which are the best practices to get rid of some failures
>>> and to make our help system and files more consistent.
>>> I have no problems with abandoning my patches for good reasons.
>>>
>>> It is a learning process for me too.
>>>
>>> Am 07.04.2018 um 23:11 schrieb Martin Srebotnjak:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> just one example from Gerrit 4 hours ago:
>>> "vector graphics;converting bitmaps"
>>> was changed to:
>>> "vector graphics; converting bitmaps"
>>> See: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/52546/2/source/text/
>>> simpress/guide/vectorize.xhp
>>>
>>> Is that "missing space" an error? Not. What does this change cause? It
>>> causes 100+ translations of that string obsolete, fuzzy,
>>> untranslated, not
>>> shown in builds ... And 100+ localizers must again localize, check, edit
>>> this same string ...
>>>
>>> Is this kind of editing/"cleaning-up" of help really useful/desired?
>>> Not.
>>>
>>> Lp, m.
>>>
>>> 2018-04-07 22:01 GMT+02:00 Martin Srebotnjak :
>>>
 Hi,

 And now the Babilon tower is open to all ...

 For years I was asking for a kind of a review process for all new
 strings
 in UI/help and for the editing process. So someone overlooks all the
 changes going in and stops the ones that seem unfit (in langague or
 technical sense), thus reducing the repetitive editing of same strings.

 Instead, now there is a possibility to edit everything even more
 "easily", with even less thinking about it before it is done.

 So now we might see a surge in help changes that make many l10n
 projects
 quite vulnerable, and most probably several edits of same strings in
 a row
 (a documenter reminding oneself that another thing should be added or
 changed or edited, after it is already featured in git).

 Hopefully, this function is limited to master, because if this is
 available in "stable" versions, this will lead to havoc ...

 Lp, m.

>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>>>
>>> Sophia Schröder
>>> ---
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>>> LibreOffice.org
>>> IRC: SophiaS
>>>
>>>
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kab sub domain

[Sophie]

Hi Mohammed,
Le 09/04/2018 à 15:13, Belkacem Mohammed a écrit :
> I can't logon http://kab.libreoffice.org/admin. There is an error :
> ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED

Please use https://www.libreoffice.org/admin/ to log in and then follow
the process explained on the wiki
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT

Cheers
Sophie
> 
> 
> 
> 2018-04-09 13:49 GMT+01:00 Sophie :
> 
>> Hi Mohammed,
>>
>> Le 09/04/2018 à 14:35, Belkacem Mohammed a écrit :
>>> Hi Sophie,
>>> The project Website is not enabled yet for the kab on Pootle. The
>> subdomain
>>> kab.libreoffice.org is not pingable for now.
>>
>> That's what I said, it will be pingable once you've completed the
>> translation of the pages you want to appear on the site. As you said
>> that l10n was 71%, I thought it was on Pootle (which by the way is only
>> part of the translation, pages have to be done too).
>> For the moment, log to the site and go to kab.libreoffice.org/admin and
>> you'll have access to the pages.
>> Tell your group member to create their account, once done, let me know,
>> I'll add them to Kabyle group so they can help you.
>> You have a process described here:
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT
>> I'll take care of Pootle project later today. Don't hesitate if you have
>> further questions
>>
>> Cheers
>> Sophie
>>
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> 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kab sub domain

[Belkacem Mohammed]

I can't logon http://kab.libreoffice.org/admin. There is an error :
ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED



2018-04-09 13:49 GMT+01:00 Sophie :

> Hi Mohammed,
>
> Le 09/04/2018 à 14:35, Belkacem Mohammed a écrit :
> > Hi Sophie,
> > The project Website is not enabled yet for the kab on Pootle. The
> subdomain
> > kab.libreoffice.org is not pingable for now.
>
> That's what I said, it will be pingable once you've completed the
> translation of the pages you want to appear on the site. As you said
> that l10n was 71%, I thought it was on Pootle (which by the way is only
> part of the translation, pages have to be done too).
> For the moment, log to the site and go to kab.libreoffice.org/admin and
> you'll have access to the pages.
> Tell your group member to create their account, once done, let me know,
> I'll add them to Kabyle group so they can help you.
> You have a process described here:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT
> I'll take care of Pootle project later today. Don't hesitate if you have
> further questions
>
> Cheers
> Sophie
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Proofing Tool GUI - Hyphenation support

[Krunose]

On 09.04.2018 14:50, Krunose wrote:

On 09.04.2018 12:22, Marco A.G. Pinto wrote:

Hello Kruno,

.AFF files are open in the first tab "Dictionary". When you open a .DIC
in "Dictionary", it opens also the .AFF.

Then, after opening a dictionary, you can go to the "Hyphenation" tab
and open an Hyphenation .DIC file.


The thing is that Croatian dictionary is not using classes for 
connecting words to classes, it rather uses AF feature and seams that 
PTG is not handling that right.


Is that true?

Kruno





The joining of both will allow you to derivate words in hyphenation or
even type words by hand.

I need to write the documentation for .aff AID :-(... In fact I need to
write a lot of documentation, not sure when I will have the time 
though...


In this version of PTG I did improve the user guide a lot, but it is not
enough for all uses.

Also, not all features of .AFF are supported, I did add "twofold" months
ago for Veneto or whatever it is called, but I haven't seen any
documentation for more complex decoding such as the Netherlands 
dictionary.


Open-source developing is a lifetime task, and I will try to keep on
improving all the projects I am involved on.

Thank you my friend,

Kind regards,
 >Marco A.G.Pinto
   --



Thank you for clarification. I also just started to write simple CLI 
program that should do similar as PTG, but idea is just few days old 
and I didn't progress a lot (if at all):


    https://github.com/krunose/hr-hunspell/tree/master/tools

I'm amateur in programming and can't do PureBasic (for now), but maybe 
I could be helpful?


Kruno





On 09/04/2018 06:58, Krunose wrote:

Great to hear. Defiantly something I'm gonna play with.

Just a quick question, aff files are currently not supported? How
about using AF feature as this is recommended in Hunspell's
documentation (Hunspell4.pdf). There's pop-up on open allowing user to
set .aff aid for English and Veneto but seams I can't add custom one.

How about supporting AFF files?

Thanks, Kruno








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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Proofing Tool GUI - Hyphenation support

[Krunose]

On 09.04.2018 12:22, Marco A.G. Pinto wrote:

Hello Kruno,

.AFF files are open in the first tab "Dictionary". When you open a .DIC
in "Dictionary", it opens also the .AFF.

Then, after opening a dictionary, you can go to the "Hyphenation" tab
and open an Hyphenation .DIC file.

The joining of both will allow you to derivate words in hyphenation or
even type words by hand.

I need to write the documentation for .aff AID :-(... In fact I need to
write a lot of documentation, not sure when I will have the time though...

In this version of PTG I did improve the user guide a lot, but it is not
enough for all uses.

Also, not all features of .AFF are supported, I did add "twofold" months
ago for Veneto or whatever it is called, but I haven't seen any
documentation for more complex decoding such as the Netherlands dictionary.

Open-source developing is a lifetime task, and I will try to keep on
improving all the projects I am involved on.

Thank you my friend,

Kind regards,
     >Marco A.G.Pinto
   --



Thank you for clarification. I also just started to write simple CLI 
program that should do similar as PTG, but idea is just few days old and 
I didn't progress a lot (if at all):


    https://github.com/krunose/hr-hunspell/tree/master/tools

I'm amateur in programming and can't do PureBasic (for now), but maybe I 
could be helpful?


Kruno





On 09/04/2018 06:58, Krunose wrote:

Great to hear. Defiantly something I'm gonna play with.

Just a quick question, aff files are currently not supported? How
about using AF feature as this is recommended in Hunspell's
documentation (Hunspell4.pdf). There's pop-up on open allowing user to
set .aff aid for English and Veneto but seams I can't add custom one.

How about supporting AFF files?

Thanks, Kruno





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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kab sub domain

[Sophie]

Hi Mohammed,

Le 09/04/2018 à 14:35, Belkacem Mohammed a écrit :
> Hi Sophie,
> The project Website is not enabled yet for the kab on Pootle. The subdomain
> kab.libreoffice.org is not pingable for now.

That's what I said, it will be pingable once you've completed the
translation of the pages you want to appear on the site. As you said
that l10n was 71%, I thought it was on Pootle (which by the way is only
part of the translation, pages have to be done too).
For the moment, log to the site and go to kab.libreoffice.org/admin and
you'll have access to the pages.
Tell your group member to create their account, once done, let me know,
I'll add them to Kabyle group so they can help you.
You have a process described here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NewWebsiteNLT
I'll take care of Pootle project later today. Don't hesitate if you have
further questions

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kab sub domain

[Belkacem Mohammed]

Hi Sophie,
The project Website is not enabled yet for the kab on Pootle. The subdomain
kab.libreoffice.org is not pingable for now.

2018-04-09 12:54 GMT+01:00 Sophie :

> Hi Mohammed,
> Le 08/04/2018 à 17:25, Belkacem Mohammed a écrit :
> > Hello,
> > Please, would you like add a subdomain kab.libreoffice.org for the
> kabyle
> > community?
> > Localization reached 71%
>
> So it's done, I've added you on the site so you are able to edit it and
> translate the pages that you want to see appear (you can delete the
> other, I've copied the FR site so you have some content, but it's just
> as you like).
> Please log-in and use the change password feature to access with your
> own password. For the other editors, ask them to create an account on
> the site and let me know when it's done, I'll add the to Kabyle group.
> Once your translation is finished, we will make the site public.
>
> Cheers
> Sophie
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kab sub domain

[Sophie]

Hi Mohammed,
Le 08/04/2018 à 17:25, Belkacem Mohammed a écrit :
> Hello,
> Please, would you like add a subdomain kab.libreoffice.org for the kabyle
> community?
> Localization reached 71%

So it's done, I've added you on the site so you are able to edit it and
translate the pages that you want to see appear (you can delete the
other, I've copied the FR site so you have some content, but it's just
as you like).
Please log-in and use the change password feature to access with your
own password. For the other editors, ask them to create an account on
the site and let me know when it's done, I'll add the to Kabyle group.
Once your translation is finished, we will make the site public.

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Proofing Tool GUI - Hyphenation support

[Marco A.G. Pinto]

Hello Kruno,

.AFF files are open in the first tab "Dictionary". When you open a .DIC
in "Dictionary", it opens also the .AFF.

Then, after opening a dictionary, you can go to the "Hyphenation" tab
and open an Hyphenation .DIC file.

The joining of both will allow you to derivate words in hyphenation or
even type words by hand.

I need to write the documentation for .aff AID :-(... In fact I need to
write a lot of documentation, not sure when I will have the time though...

In this version of PTG I did improve the user guide a lot, but it is not
enough for all uses.

Also, not all features of .AFF are supported, I did add "twofold" months
ago for Veneto or whatever it is called, but I haven't seen any
documentation for more complex decoding such as the Netherlands dictionary.

Open-source developing is a lifetime task, and I will try to keep on
improving all the projects I am involved on.

Thank you my friend,

Kind regards,
    >Marco A.G.Pinto
  --

On 09/04/2018 06:58, Krunose wrote:
> Great to hear. Defiantly something I'm gonna play with.
>
> Just a quick question, aff files are currently not supported? How
> about using AF feature as this is recommended in Hunspell's
> documentation (Hunspell4.pdf). There's pop-up on open allowing user to
> set .aff aid for English and Veneto but seams I can't add custom one.
>
> How about supporting AFF files?
>
> Thanks, Kruno 


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kab sub domain

[Sophie]

Hi Mohammed,
Le 08/04/2018 à 17:25, Belkacem Mohammed a écrit :
> Hello,
> Please, would you like add a subdomain kab.libreoffice.org for the kabyle
> community?
> Localization reached 71%

Great news, thanks for your work :) I'll do it during the day. But be
aware that all the translation of the site is not in Pootle, so you'll
have some remaining work to do.

For your other request about the build, I'll talk with Christian and
will come back to you asap.

Cheers
Sophie

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