[libreoffice-l10n] Adding LibreTranslate to Weblate

[sophi]

Hi all,

I thought I had already sent a mail about it but couldn't find it...

I've requested a budget to use LibreTranslate with Weblate.
In (very) short:
- as a first step we will use their API (with a request to get more 
translations per minute)

- then we have to prepare our files
- then we have to train our own models

Does any of you have already work in this field and could help?

For references:
https://libretranslate.com/
https://github.com/LibreTranslate
https://github.com/LibreTranslate/Locomotive

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] blocked items on Weblate

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Hi all,
Le 20/05/2024 à 15:44, Tuomas Hietala a écrit :
Also, could we have Weblate updated to the latest version? 5.5.5 is the 
latest and greatest and there are useful fixes and improvements there as 
usual.


I was on vacation last week and today is a public holiday in several 
countries, but from what I recall, Cloph wanted to upgrade Weblate this 
week.


For the strings blocked for translation, I think Olivier asked last week 
about it and it was an auto-locking of Weblate after a changeset was 
merged while Weblate still had new changes to submit. I'll clarify with 
Cloph tomorrow and will come back to you.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translating master version versus translating current version

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Hi Lars,
Le 06/05/2024 à 19:24, Lars Jødal a écrit :

Hello

Working on the Danish LO, I am currently working on the master version to be 
ahead. However, I am wondering: Will the translated strings also take effect in 
the current LO versions (currently: 24.2 as fresh and 7.6 as still version)? >
Reversely: If I worked on an older version, would translated strings automatically 
become part of newer versions (7.6 -> 24.2 -> master)?


Yes, translation propagation is done on branches too


A different question: If a translation is saved with "reviewer" rights, will it 
automatically be comitted to the LO distribution, or is there a need to do something 
further to commit?


also yes, reviewers can review others translation and translate, no 
extra steps needed.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localization Support of Sundanese Language

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Hi all,

I replied in private and gave Ilham the contact of the Sundanese admin.
Cheers
Sophie
Le 06/05/2024 à 06:12, Ilham Nurwansah a écrit :

Dear LibreOffice Localization Managers,

I am interested in participating in the translation of LibreOffice to
support the Sundanese language
 of Western Java,
Indonesia.

Prior to this project, I have experience in localizing Firefox
 for Android
 and Linux Ubuntu.


Could you please provide guidance on how to begin the translation project?

Regards,
Ilham



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Georgian translation

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Hi Ekaterine,

Le 01/05/2024 à 08:10, Ekaterine Papava a écrit :

Hello Everyone,
I want to help with the Georgian translation of LibreOffice as it's in very
bad shape.


Thanks a lot for your will to contribute!


Registered on weblate, but got no permissions to add/correct translations.
Can anyone tell me what's needed to get necessary permissions, please?
I have sent a request to email specified oi localization table, but got no
reply so far.


Yes, I just checked and translation has not been touched at least for 
the last two years. I gave you admin rights, meaning that you can review 
translations and suggestions and translate too.


Should you have any questions, don't hesitate to come back to me
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Georgian translation

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Hi George,

Le 01/05/2024 à 08:16, George Salukvadze a écrit :

Hello Everyone,

By the way, I have insufficient privileges to save translations on Weblate too, 
however, I was the person who has already participated in translations of 
subtitles for What's new in 24.2 YouTube video to Georgian.


Great and thanks!


Would someone please be so kind to contact me and Ekaterine in order for us to 
get the correct privileges on Weblate?
For some reason, I still haven't gotten to sending you all this email before.


I've added you as admin so with Ekatrine you can both review 
translations and suggestions and translate too.


Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.


Don't hesitate to come back to me if you have any question.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] How do I get rights to accept translations?

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Hi Lars and welcome to the translation team!
Le 27/04/2024 à 12:19, Lars Jødal a écrit :

Hello

Recently, I registered on 
translations.documentfoundation.org
 to participate in the continued translation of the Danish branch of LO. I have 
entered a few suggested translations on the Weblate system, but I do not have the 
rights to save/accept them.

Generally, it makes sense that newcomer can only suggest translations and need 
acceptance before achieving rights to make the translations effective in the LO 
distribution. However, the Danish branch of LO has the problem that the former 
administrator (Leif Lodahl) is no longer active in this work. There may be one 
or perhaps even two more people in the project (or I may be alone), but as I 
understand things, without administrator rights. Recent versions of Danish LO 
contain increasing amounts of untranslated (English) phrases.

I do have the mail address of Leif Lodahl, but he is burnt out on the project 
and suggested that I should ask here. So how do I proceed from here?


See my private mail, I gave you the contact of the translators 
contributing to Danish.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Interlingua (ia) translation

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Hi and welcome to the l10n team!

Le 12/04/2024 à 20:39, SoftInterlingua Traductiones a écrit :

Hello,

I'm interested to translate LO (UI, website and Help) in Interlingua (ia),
which is already available in your Weblate instance, but can't start it
because the "+" button to add the new language to a project is greyed out.

I'll appreciate your help.


We need to create the language group, add you to it and populate the 
project with UI and Help files first. I'll let you know as soon as it's 
done.


Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Request to add Japanese reviewer on Weblate

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Hi Shinji,
Le 12/04/2024 à 16:58, Shinji Enoki a écrit :

Hi Sophi,

Could you add reviewer role to -san in the Japanese project of Weblate?
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/user//


It's done
Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Bad XML introduced in weblate / Guides

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Hi Olivier,
Le 12/04/2024 à 20:50, Olivier Hallot a écrit :

Hi

I was testing the French translation of the Calc Guide in weblate and 
found a strange or buggy behaviour of weblate in French.


https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/user-guides-experiment/calc-guide-24/cg2400-preface/fr/?checksum=582f44377d94f7e3

On saving the string, weblate adds a space before all colons (:) inside 
the tags, which breaks the XML.


If I'm not mistaken, that must be fixed. XML must be preserved as-is.

Tested with Firefox and Brave.

The issue does not show in pt-BR.



You have to add a flag: ignore-punctuation-spacing to the string, so the 
double space will be ignore. It only happens for French (if I remember 
well) and will be fixed in the next version.


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[libreoffice-l10n] Strings for LibreOffice websites

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Hello,

Strings for the new website design (Hugo site generator) are now 
available on Weblate:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/website/libreofficeorg/

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[libreoffice-l10n] Results of the survey

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Hello all,

The results of the survey have been published on the blog:
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2024/03/29/results-from-our-survey-of-libreoffice-localisation-tooling-and-workflows/

Thanks to those who answered and to Julia, Heiko and Mike for their work 
too!


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] How to add new localized string in weblate

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Hi,

Le 28/03/2024 à 17:00, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :

Hi Sophie, *,

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 4:28 PM sophi  wrote:


Hi Patrick,
Le 28/03/2024 à 13:34, Patrick Luby a écrit :

Hi everyone,

I recently added a new warning in the LibreOffice master and libreoffice-24-2 
branches:
[…]
Does anyone have the privileges to add this new entry? Or do they get 
automatically pulled in from LibreOffice commits?


Cloph will update the template, he does it regularly.


While regular updates for master are done, that's not true for
branches after string-freeze, there I do occasional checks only, but
that's then close to tagging usually and thus won't leave much time
for translators.
So as with all string-freeze breaks: adding l10n representatives (and
me) is necessary to make sure they'll get added to the templates
early/and not just right before tagging
(String changes in general shouldn't be pushed to branches without OK
from l10n on the corresponding gerrit-change)


Oups, sorry, seems I read to fast and didn't see branches were also 
concerned. Thanks for correcting :)

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] How to add new localized string in weblate

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Hi Patrick,
Le 28/03/2024 à 13:34, Patrick Luby a écrit :

Hi everyone,

I recently added a new warning in the LibreOffice master and libreoffice-24-2 
branches:

https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=c4023d3ec604abfff38be2053e2989c7ec2ba8c1


Thanks for your work!


The new string’s entry name is STR_TRUST_UNTRUSTED_PUBKEY and the green text in the 
above commit (i.e. the text starting with "Security warning: the following 
OpenPGP public key is untrusted:” is the English text.

I looked at the following weblate page and I don’t see a new 
STR_TRUST_UNTRUSTED_PUBKEY entry:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/browse/libo_ui-master/xmlsecuritymessages/en/

Does anyone have the privileges to add this new entry? Or do they get 
automatically pulled in from LibreOffice commits?


Cloph will update the template, he does it regularly.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Maltese - MT - Localization

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Hi Warren,
Le 12/03/2024 à 13:34, Warren Camilleri a écrit :

Thanks for letting me know Sophie

The spell checker is live at https://spelling.mt

The dictionary in old aspell, so i will need.to convert that to something
more modern and usable and then see how to add to LO so any documentation
guides would be gratefully appreciated


You can submit it as an extension here:
https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en/home/

And if you want it bundled, then explanations are here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Dictionaries

Don't hesitate to come back to me should you have any question
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Maltese - MT - Localization

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Hi Warren,
Le 11/03/2024 à 23:47, Warren Camilleri a écrit :

Good evening all,

  

First of all, welcome back!


I used to have access to the old silverstripe for mt.libreoffice.org, but
credentials onfile seem not to work on libreoffice.org/admin

please advise if I am doing something wrong or if I need to re-register to
my full inactivity from 2018


Just a note here: the libreoffice website is in full reconstruction and 
we will soon have the content on Weblate for translation in all 
languages. So don't waste your time on translating the old site now, it 
will very soon be obsoleted.


  


in CC I have placed my OSSMalta email (though the old login may have been
under the .com tld before we migrated to a .eu)

once I have gotten the Maltese section of the site translated, I will then
dedicate time to bring the spelling.mt maltese spell checker to libreoffice,
though I belive there was an attempt for open-office when the project was
initially built by MLUg (malta linux user group) the predecessor and
inspiration for the OSSMalta community.


I think it would be better to focus now on the spellchecker and later on 
the website for the reason above. Let me know if you need any help.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Proposal for categories in Weblate

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Hi all,

We are waiting a week more for feedback, then Cloph will proceed with 
Tuomas proposal.


*Note* that changing layout with categories will changes URLs (including 
those for API)


Cheers
Sophie

Le 02/03/2024 à 17:08, Tuomas Hietala a écrit :

Hello all,

Here is my proposal for dividing the components in LibreOffice UI in 
Weblate into categories. My idea is to have a category for each module 
and a few categories for shared components. Let me know if I 
miscategorised something or if you have better ideas for categories.



Base
 dbaccess/messages
 officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice

 Not sure if 'dbaccess/messages' would belong here or in the Data 
access category further below.


BASIC
 basctl/messages
 basic/messages

Calc
 formula/messages
 nlpsolver/help/en/com.sun.star.comp.Calc.NLPSolver
 nlpsolver/src/com/sun/star/comp/Calc/NLPSolver
 nlpsolver/src/locale
 scaddins/messages
 sccomp/messages
 sc/messages

Chart
 chart2/messages

Common UI components
 accessibility/messages
 avmedia/messages
 cui/messages
 desktop/messages
 editeng/messages
 extensions/messages
 extensions/source/update/check/org/openoffice/Office
 extras/source/autocorr/emoji
 extras/source/gallery/share
 forms/messages
 framework/messages
 officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office
 officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI
 oox/messages
 reportbuilder/java/org/libreoffice/report/function/metadata
 reportdesign/messages
 sfx2/messages
 svl/messages
 svtools/messages
 svx/messages
 sysui/desktop/share
 uui/messages
 vcl/messages
 wizards/messages
 wizards/source/resources
 xmlsecurity/messages

 A catch-all category which could perhaps be broken into smaller 
categories. I'd avoid getting overly specific, though, in order to keep 
the overall number of categories manageable.


Data access
 connectivity/messages
 connectivity/registry/ado/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/calc/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/dbase/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/evoab2/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/firebird/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/flat/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/hsqldb/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/jdbc/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/macab/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/mysqlc/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/mysql_jdbc/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/odbc/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/postgresql/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/writer/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess

 I think these are not just specific to Base but used in other 
modules too? If not, this category could be merged with Base.


Dictionaries
 Already created by Christian, no changes.

Draw and Impress
 sd/messages

File format filters
 filter/messages
 filter/source/config/fragments/filters
 filter/source/config/fragments/internalgraphicfilters
 filter/source/config/fragments/types
 writerperfect/messages

Installers and ReadMe
 instsetoo_native/inc_openoffice/windows/msi_languages
 readlicense_oo/docs
 scp2/source/activex
 scp2/source/base
 scp2/source/calc
 scp2/source/draw
 scp2/source/extensions
 scp2/source/gnome
 scp2/source/graphicfilter
 scp2/source/impress
 scp2/source/kde
 scp2/source/math
 scp2/source/onlineupdate
 scp2/source/ooo
 scp2/source/python
 scp2/source/quickstart
 scp2/source/winexplorerext
 scp2/source/writer
 scp2/source/xsltfilter
 setup_native/source/mac

Math
 starmath/messages

System integration
 fpicker/messages
 shell/messages
 shell/source/win32/shlxthandler/res

Writer
 librelogo/source/pythonpath
 swext/mediawiki/help
 swext/mediawiki/help
 swext/mediawiki/src/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office
 swext/mediawiki/src/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Custom
 sw/messages


Comments welcome,
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Proposal for categories in Weblate

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Hi Tuomas, all,
Le 02/03/2024 à 17:08, Tuomas Hietala a écrit :

Hello all,

Here is my proposal for dividing the components in LibreOffice UI in 
Weblate into categories. My idea is to have a category for each module 
and a few categories for shared components. Let me know if I 
miscategorised something or if you have better ideas for categories.


Thanks a lot for your work on this.
Maybe we could group Chart/Draw and Impress/Math in one category?

Other comments between your lines:



Base
 dbaccess/messages
 officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice

 Not sure if 'dbaccess/messages' would belong here or in the Data 
access category further below.


I think it's good to have it here, as it's not only for 
accessing/connecting to database but for creating/managing databases


BASIC
 basctl/messages
 basic/messages

Calc
 formula/messages
 nlpsolver/help/en/com.sun.star.comp.Calc.NLPSolver
 nlpsolver/src/com/sun/star/comp/Calc/NLPSolver
 nlpsolver/src/locale
 scaddins/messages
 sccomp/messages
 sc/messages

Chart
 chart2/messages

Common UI components
 accessibility/messages
 avmedia/messages
 cui/messages
 desktop/messages
 editeng/messages
 extensions/messages
 extensions/source/update/check/org/openoffice/Office
 extras/source/autocorr/emoji
 extras/source/gallery/share
 forms/messages
 framework/messages
 officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office
 officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI
 oox/messages
 reportbuilder/java/org/libreoffice/report/function/metadata
 reportdesign/messages
 sfx2/messages
 svl/messages
 svtools/messages
 svx/messages
 sysui/desktop/share
 uui/messages
 vcl/messages
 wizards/messages
 wizards/source/resources
 xmlsecurity/messages

 A catch-all category which could perhaps be broken into smaller 
categories. I'd avoid getting overly specific, though, in order to keep 
the overall number of categories manageable.


I agree :)


Data access
 connectivity/messages
 connectivity/registry/ado/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/calc/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/dbase/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/evoab2/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/firebird/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/flat/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/hsqldb/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/jdbc/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/macab/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/mysqlc/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/mysql_jdbc/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/odbc/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/postgresql/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess
 connectivity/registry/writer/org/openoffice/Office/DataAccess

 I think these are not just specific to Base but used in other 
modules too? If not, this category could be merged with Base.


I've no real opinion here, or maybe rename the category Connectivity


Dictionaries
 Already created by Christian, no changes.

Draw and Impress
 sd/messages

File format filters
 filter/messages
 filter/source/config/fragments/filters
 filter/source/config/fragments/internalgraphicfilters
 filter/source/config/fragments/types
 writerperfect/messages

Installers and ReadMe
 instsetoo_native/inc_openoffice/windows/msi_languages
 readlicense_oo/docs
 scp2/source/activex
 scp2/source/base
 scp2/source/calc
 scp2/source/draw
 scp2/source/extensions
 scp2/source/gnome
 scp2/source/graphicfilter
 scp2/source/impress
 scp2/source/kde
 scp2/source/math
 scp2/source/onlineupdate
 scp2/source/ooo
 scp2/source/python
 scp2/source/quickstart
 scp2/source/winexplorerext
 scp2/source/writer
 scp2/source/xsltfilter
 setup_native/source/mac

Math
 starmath/messages

System integration
 fpicker/messages
 shell/messages
 shell/source/win32/shlxthandler/res

Writer
 librelogo/source/pythonpath
 swext/mediawiki/help
 swext/mediawiki/help
 swext/mediawiki/src/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office
 swext/mediawiki/src/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/Custom
 sw/messages



No more comments, I like how you sorted all this :)
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Making use of Weblate's new features

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Hi Tuomas,
Le 26/02/2024 à 17:30, Tuomas Hietala a écrit :

Hello all,

As we know, TDF funded some improvements to Weblate last year. I think 
all the features have landed in Weblate by now, but some of them need to 
be specifically enabled.


First, there's the Category feature:
https://docs.weblate.org/en/weblate-5.0/admin/projects.html#category

Currently on TDF Weblate there are dozens of sometimes somewhat 
cryptically named components inside each project. You'll get used to 
them after a while but we could reduce confusion and speed up navigation 
by making use of categories. There could be one category per module 
(Writer, Calc, etc.) and some common categories as well, as many 
components are used across the whole suite.


On that, I have to check with Cloph about intrusive it could be with his 
own workflow on updating templates, extracting translations, etc. I'll 
come back to the list when I have news.


Second, there's the Workflow customisation feature:
https://docs.weblate.org/en/weblate-5.1/workflows.html#workflow-customization

The idea was to allow each language team to make their own decicions 
about workflow. So I'm just making sure if it's now okay for teams to 
make the switch if they want to?


Do you have access to it under your language > tools > edit?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 24.2 "New Features" video script for translations

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Hi Martin,

Le 06/02/2024 à 22:56, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :

Again, I kindly ask to publish the existing translations of the subtitles
on the youtube.

I translated them on January 31, the day of the release (as the translation
became possible), and I still cannot point the Slovenian users to the
subtitled video, 7 days after the release!


Sorry for the delay and the inconvenience, Mike is away for a while and 
also FOSDEM happened in between. Stéphane should have access to the 
account very soon now and will publish the subtitles in all languages. 
I'll let you know when it's done.


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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice 24.2 "New Features" video script for translations

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Hi,

A big thank you to all the translators, that's great to see translations 
of the subtitles in so many languages :)


Cheers
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Le 31/01/2024 à 13:58, Mike Saunders a écrit :

Hi everyone,

We've made a video showing a few of the new features in LibreOffice 24.2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9pMn4cffs

The text for the subtitles is on the wiki, so if anyone wants to 
translate, we can add more languages:


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/24.2_New_Features_Script

Thanks a lot in advance! :-)



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] L10n survey is now live! Please participate :)

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Hi Andika,

Le 25/01/2024 à 13:05, Andika Triwidada a écrit :

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 3:58 PM Heiko Tietze
 wrote:


On 25.01.24 06:05, Andika Triwidada wrote:

One thing I wish feedback is "were our translation works really used"?
Not sure how to get that kind of information. Maybe download statistics
on the language modules will give a rough number?



Hi Andika,

not sure to understand your question correctly ("is all of my work actually
used" makes me wonder what else could be done with it), but please add those
remarks in the survey. It has a free form question at the end and you could turn
this into a suggestion like "provide more detailed statistics" beyond what
Weblate and https://dashboard.documentfoundation.org/ offers. A discussion on
the mailing list is good but perhaps better when the results are public.

Cheers,
Heiko


Hi Heiko,

I mean, yes of course, our translation works were automatically
processed and packaged, so users can utilize them as needed. But how
many downloads for, lets say, Indonesian UI? [1][2]. Were those
numbers published?

I saw some aggregate download numbers in "Slide deck of the last
Advisory Board meeting 2024-01-17", but I'm also interested in
translation-specific ones.

Hopefully my question makes more sense now :D


This is something I'd like to have as a tab in our statistics page here:
https://stats.documentfoundation.org/downloads
We don't have stats by language packs but by countries in Matomo. I 
don't know if we have stats from the mirrors, but at least by country 
would be great.
I'll ask Guilhem if it's feasible and will let the team know. Otherwise, 
I'll try to retrieve them from Matomo.


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[libreoffice-l10n] L10n survey is now live! Please participate :)

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Hello all,

As you remember Julia wanted to run a survey on our l10n workflow and 
practice. It would very great if you can fill it and allow Julia to 
collect as many answers as possible. Of course result analysis will be 
shared with you :)


Here is the message Julia wanted to pass:
--
Hello All,
We have finalized and published our survey for the Localization 
community, and it is now active

under this link: https://survey.documentfoundation.org/256966?lang=en

Your feedback is very important to us, and the survey should only take 
about 5-10 minutes to complete.
I would also like to thank those again who provided us with our 
preliminary feedback to guide the content of this survey.


Please provide your feedback by 21 February 2024 – we look forward to 
the results!

Thank you,
Julia


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate 5.3.1

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Hi Valter,
Le 21/01/2024 à 22:49, Valter Mura a écrit :

[...]



Hi

this is a very good news!

The only thing we would like to have againg is the highlighting for 
errors (critical or not). Now we cannot see it.


Could you give me an example, I've tried to reproduce but in case of 
checks for example they are still there. So what type of errors are you 
talking about and what highlighting?

Thanks in advance,
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[libreoffice-l10n] Bug fix on a string in 24.2

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Hi all,

Just to inform you about this patch:
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/help/+/162373

With this comment from Cloph:
while the commit to 24-2 broke string-freeze, the single string that it 
changed can be considered a bugfix, and could be passed down to 
translations via auto-fix/translators using weblate won't have to touch 
the string again.

I also did the corresponding change for sl in 24-2 and 24-2-0 branches


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[libreoffice-l10n] Weblate 5.3.1

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Hi all,

Just for information Weblate is now upgraded to 5.3.1, thanks to Cloph :)

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Abbreviation for Drag 'n Drop

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Hi Tuomas,
Le 12/01/2024 à 20:49, Tuomas Hietala a écrit :

Hi all,

There's no commonly understood abbreviation for DnD in Finnish either, 
but the equivalent of "Shift+drag" would work. (Actually, I'm not sure 
if non-technical English speakers would understand "DnD" either?)


Agreed, like you and others suggested, I think it's better


Heiko, is there any character limit on the translated string?


Normally it should not, by the past we have to count the characters to 
fit in the dialog, but no the dialog should adapt.


I also think that Shift should be written first, because that's the 
usual convention (and it's the logical order: you need to hold Shift 
before dragging).


Agreed also :)

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[libreoffice-l10n] Changes after string freeze

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Hi all,

Just to inform you that there were 4 patches committed after string freeze:

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/help/+/161561 (1 new string)
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/161211 (1 string changed -
accelerator position)
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/161858 (2 new strings)
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/161687 (4 new strings)

Thanks to Martin for pointing them and sorry that rule has not been 
respected. I will make a routine to monitor string changes after string 
freeze in gerrit now.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Possible bug in Weblate - Search on TMs in the Automatic Suggestions tab

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Hi Valter, all,
Le 07/01/2024 à 20:08, Valter Mura a écrit :

Il 19/12/23 12:34, sophi ha scritto:

Hi Valter,

Le 19/12/2023 à 12:30, Valter Mura a écrit :

Hi Sophie/Cloph

The bug seems to be solved, but we need to update the Weblate version 
(5.1.1 > 5.2)


That's great, thanks for the info! Cloph is currently on vacation, 
I'll keep that for when he is back :)




Hi All!

Any news? The Weblate version seems still the same.


I just had a call with Cloph and the upgrade is planed for the end of 
the week.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Possible bug in Weblate - Search on TMs in the Automatic Suggestions tab

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Hi Valter,
Le 07/01/2024 à 20:08, Valter Mura a écrit :

Il 19/12/23 12:34, sophi ha scritto:

Hi Valter,

Le 19/12/2023 à 12:30, Valter Mura a écrit :

Hi Sophie/Cloph

The bug seems to be solved, but we need to update the Weblate version 
(5.1.1 > 5.2)


That's great, thanks for the info! Cloph is currently on vacation, 
I'll keep that for when he is back :)




Hi All!

Any news? The Weblate version seems still the same.


Cloph is back this week and we have a meeting tomorrow, so more news 
tomorrow.


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[libreoffice-l10n] Content for the Annual Report

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Hello all,

For those who have not done it yet, please write your feedback to the 
pad for the Annual Report here:

https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport
or send it to me directly.

We will begin to work on the sections in the next weeks, so please add 
what happened in your team and community, we want to highlight your 
great work!


Thanks a lot in advance,

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate glossaries policy

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Hi Tuomas,

Le 28/12/2023 à 13:29, Tuomas Hietala a écrit :

Hello all,

sophi kirjoitti 26.12.2023 15:02:

Hi Stanislav,

Le 21/12/2023 à 10:03, Stanislav Horáček a écrit :

Hi,

I would like to ask if there is a policy for adding strings to 
glossaries shared across all languages (i.e. the strings marked with 
the "terminology" flag).


Currently, there are many terminology strings which are not useful at 
all, only cluttering the glossaries (check yourself e.g. [1]). They 
are being added continuously and I deleted some of them, but I think 
it should be more controlled what is going in. In the glossary 
itself, I found a sentence suggesting that the initial idea was to 
use the shared part only rarely [2].


What are your opinions?


I agree with you. Do you have suggestions on how to enforce 
contributors to not use the Terminology flag? I can add it to the 
wiki, but not sure people will read there.


Having to delete unnecessary terminology strings is indeed annoying. IMO 
adding glossary entries to other languages should not be enabled by 
default. I opened an issue on Weblate's Github earlier:


https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/8807

If TDF is going to fund improvements to Weblate again (I hope so!), this 
could be one candidate.


Oh, thanks a lot, I was not aware of the issue you filed. Allan also 
commented on it. There seems to be several issues open for glossaries, 
I'll see what is concerning us too.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Introducing Julia and the survey she works on

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Hi Olivier,

Le 26/12/2023 à 14:21, Olivier Hallot a écrit :

HI

On 12/26/23 09:57, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:

On 26.12.2023 14.13, Olivier Hallot wrote:

On 12/26/23 07:53, Stanislav Horáček wrote:
pá 22. 12. 2023 v 10:52 odesílatel sophi  
napsal:
+ Invest in LibreTranslate project to train python translation engine 
(1) in LO context.


See also https://github.com/LibreTranslate/Locomotive
"Easy to use, cross-platform toolkit to train argos-translate models, 
which can be used by LibreTranslate"


It could be fed source and target translations from LibreOffice.

NVIDIA CUDA graphics card is recommended. If someone from the team 
owns such a card, we might not need to invest into an external service.


Ilmari



I bet the LibreTranslate guy (Piero) will attend FOSDEM 23. Time to have 
a good talk with him.


I guess you mean 2024 :) When Cloph is back, I'll try to arrange a 
meeting with Piero Toffanin and our team.


Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate glossaries policy

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Hi Stanislav,

Le 21/12/2023 à 10:03, Stanislav Horáček a écrit :

Hi,

I would like to ask if there is a policy for adding strings to 
glossaries shared across all languages (i.e. the strings marked with the 
"terminology" flag).


Currently, there are many terminology strings which are not useful at 
all, only cluttering the glossaries (check yourself e.g. [1]). They are 
being added continuously and I deleted some of them, but I think it 
should be more controlled what is going in. In the glossary itself, I 
found a sentence suggesting that the initial idea was to use the shared 
part only rarely [2].


What are your opinions?


I agree with you. Do you have suggestions on how to enforce contributors 
to not use the Terminology flag? I can add it to the wiki, but not sure 
people will read there.


Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Introducing Julia and the survey she works on

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Le 26/12/2023 à 13:13, Olivier Hallot a écrit :

HI

On 12/26/23 07:53, Stanislav Horáček wrote:

Hi,

pá 22. 12. 2023 v 10:52 odesílatel sophi  napsal:

Please reach out with any feedback, comments, or concerns you may have
regarding the
translation process. We truly value your willingness to participate, and
I look forward to hearing
from the community!


not sure how much it helps, but in my opinion these points would
improve the translation a lot:
- employing machine translation,
- sharing translation memory (now Weblate, wiki and user guides are
completely separated),
- reusing existing translations (current suggestions in Weblate do not
work if e.g. a string is split or markup is added, even if the content
is preserved),
- more flexibility when customizing the tools (cf. the Weblate
improvements tendering) and dealing with the infrastructure problems.

Best regards,
Stanislav


All that Stan listed above.

My Santa shop list (I've been kind with my mom' and pop' !!!):

+ Invest in LibreTranslate project to train python translation engine 
(1) in LO context.


I have it on my radar for next year budget, but do you mean:"Custom 
models trained on your own data are available for $1000/language 
(negotiable)" ?



+ have Weblate to auto-accept 100% string match from translation memory



+ Fix the glossary pollution


Could you give an example of the pollution you're talking about?
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] android-app is also blocked for translation

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Hi Cor,
Le 24/12/2023 à 15:59, Cor Nouws a écrit :

Hi Sophie, Kees,

sophi wrote on 23/12/2023 15:43:

Le 23/12/2023 à 10:23, kees...@libreoffice.org a écrit :

Also for android-lib, loleaflet-help and loleaflet-ui



kees...@libreoffice.org schreef op 23.12.2023 10:17:

In Weblate android-app is also blocked for translation.
Can it be enabled?


They can't be enabled because it corresponds to LibreOffice online, 
which by decision of the Board of Directors, had its development and 
translations frozen.

See the decision here:
https://community.documentfoundation.org/t/vote-libreoffice-online-repository-and-translations/8893/15?u=sophi


I think that is not a correct explanation of the situation, Sophie 
(although I can imagine that various posts in that topic you mention, 
give such an impression, unfortunately). The work on the repository 
itself was frozen, due to lack of interest, the ESC and the board 
confirmed that, according to the attic policy(1).


If it would be true that these strings cannot be translated, it should 
of course be fixed.


But the decision I linked above said that it has to be frozen:
"2. to freeze (not delete) the translations for online in Weblate, for 
the time being".

So what did I say that was not true and what should be fixed?


However, looking at the android repo, I see e.g. (2, 3) and the fact 
that others are translating too for the Android-Viewer, maybe there is sa 
misunderstanding. Kees could it be that you try the wrong repo? Or maybe 
it needs to be checked for Dutch?


I already activated Android-viewer project per request of Kees.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] android-app is also blocked for translation

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Hi Kees,

Le 23/12/2023 à 10:23, kees...@libreoffice.org a écrit :

Also for android-lib, loleaflet-help and loleaflet-ui

kees...@libreoffice.org schreef op 23.12.2023 10:17:

All

In Weblate android-app is also blocked for translation.
Can it be enabled?


They can't be enabled because it corresponds to LibreOffice online, 
which by decision of the Board of Directors, had its development and 
translations frozen.

See the decision here:
https://community.documentfoundation.org/t/vote-libreoffice-online-repository-and-translations/8893/15?u=sophi

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[libreoffice-l10n] Introducing Julia and the survey she works on

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Hi all,

Let me introduce Julia. We are working with her on a l10n survey and 
here is what she would like to say to our team:


Hello all,
My name is Julia, and I am a student currently working towards my 
Bachelors in Psychology at
the University of California, Santa Barbara. With the help of Sophie and 
Heiko, I have been
working to create a survey for the Localization team. We are interested 
in hearing about the

Team’s experience with different tools and workflow components.
Before releasing the survey early next year, we are curious to hear your 
feedback about any
tools or workflow components that you might think need more attention. 
Our goal is to consider

this feedback as we design our survey and find out if there is more to ask.
Please reach out with any feedback, comments, or concerns you may have 
regarding the
translation process. We truly value your willingness to participate, and 
I look forward to hearing

from the community!
Thank you,
Julia

So don't hesitate to send your feedback on the list, she will then build 
the survey based on it.

Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Possible bug in Weblate - Search on TMs in the Automatic Suggestions tab

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Hi Valter,

Le 19/12/2023 à 12:30, Valter Mura a écrit :

Hi Sophie/Cloph

The bug seems to be solved, but we need to update the Weblate version (5.1.1 > 
5.2)


That's great, thanks for the info! Cloph is currently on vacation, I'll 
keep that for when he is back :)


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Android Viewer translation on Weblate

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Hi Kees,
Le 16/12/2023 à 10:11, kees...@libreoffice.org a écrit :

The plus-sign for Dutch is also greyed out


Your language is now active:
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/android-viewer/android-strings/nl/

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Android Viewer translation on Weblate

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Le 15/12/2023 à 14:55, Tuomas Hietala a écrit :

Thanks, Finnish succesfully added!


Great :)
Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Android Viewer translation on Weblate

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Hi Jeff,

Le 15/12/2023 à 14:08, Jeff Huang a écrit :

Hi Sophie,
I can't press "+" button for zh_Hant, please add it :-)


Here you are :)
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/android-viewer/android-strings/zh_Hant/

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Android Viewer translation on Weblate

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Hi Régis,

Le 15/12/2023 à 14:02, Regis Perdreau a écrit :

Hi,

For the Android french, i have a message written in red "

Droits insuffisants pour enregistrer les traductions."

No french people will come to translate with such ugly message... Why
french community is punished ?


As already said and explained, you need training to be able to 
translate, so first you make suggestions, the team review them and will 
comment on them, accepted or rejected. After some times, you'll have 
translators right. Each of us had the same process of being reviewed 
before translating, and that's great because it's less hard than having 
to learn the curve alone.

In this regard, I don't think the French community is punished.




I hope this will be officially discussed democratically whith the next
board...
You can discuss it with anyone you want, you don't become translator 
without a bit of experience and learning. Our project has some 
complexity and we offer to help you there. This is what suggestions are 
for. And I'd be very happy to help you reach the next step.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Android Viewer translation on Weblate

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Hi Adam,
Le 15/12/2023 à 13:41, Adam Rak a écrit :

Hello, Hossein!

The + button was inactive. Thanks for fixing it.


I also change your rights to admin, so that should help for the future :)
Cheers
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[libreoffice-l10n] Android Viewer translation on Weblate

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Hello all,

As it was requested by several of you, Android Viewer is now 
translatable on Weblate, thanks to Cloph :)


You can add the project to your dashboard. Currently there is master and 
7.6 branches and translation propagation is active.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] FOSDEM 2024: Call for Participation - Translations Devroom 2024

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Hi Andika,

Le 14/12/2023 à 17:16, Andika Triwidada a écrit :

On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 5:17 AM Cor Nouws  wrote:


Hi all,

Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote on 04/12/2023 19:21:

Hi Cor,




I Hope we can have a proposal from LibreOffice community.


Are there localizers who would be interested to tell about the
experience from our project, translations for LibreOffice? Experiences
with (migration to) Weblate, challenges, improvements..?



Hi all,

My CFP titled "Long Term Effort to Keep Translations Up-To-Date" has
been accepted. It is about Indonesian translation team efforts to
translate LibreOffice among others.


That's a really good news :)


Now my question is, can I request travel support from LibreOffice?


I'll ask Florian and will get back to you asap.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Possible bug in Weblate - Search on TMs in the Automatic Suggestions tab

[sophi]

Hi Valter,

Le 05/12/2023 à 16:52, Valter Mura a écrit :

Hi All

I need to report a possible error (thanks to Elisabetta Manuele) while 
searching through the Search field in the "Automatic suggestions" (tab):


- browse to a string you want to translate (with suggestion or not) and 
go to the tab "Automatic suggestions"


- if you are lucky, several suggestions will appear with a percentage of 
"Similarity", a "Translation", a "Suggested change", its "Source" and 
its "Origin"


- but... if you search in the "Translation memory" field for a term and 
click the "Search" button, Weblate returns a series of empty (blank) 
correspondences for the columns Translation, Suggested change and Source


I think it is a bug of the program. Am I wrong or is there anything 
additional to know/configure?


Sophie, Cloph, could you try and verify this strange behaviour?


I can reproduce. Searching for Empty in this string
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_help-master/textsharedguide/fr/?checksum=6e28968574d0de62
returns a lot of references, but only blank fields, even if similarity 
is up to 100%.


But if you clone the translation (or I guess accept it), then the 
suggestion is transferred to the translation field.


Would you open a bug on Weblate github?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Possible bug in Weblate - Search on TMs in the Automatic Suggestions tab

[sophi]

Hi Valter,
Le 05/12/2023 à 16:52, Valter Mura a écrit :

Hi All

I need to report a possible error (thanks to Elisabetta Manuele) while 
searching through the Search field in the "Automatic suggestions" (tab):


- browse to a string you want to translate (with suggestion or not) and 
go to the tab "Automatic suggestions"


- if you are lucky, several suggestions will appear with a percentage of 
"Similarity", a "Translation", a "Suggested change", its "Source" and 
its "Origin"


- but... if you search in the "Translation memory" field for a term and 
click the "Search" button, Weblate returns a series of empty (blank) 
correspondences for the columns Translation, Suggested change and Source


I think it is a bug of the program. Am I wrong or is there anything 
additional to know/configure?


Sophie, Cloph, could you try and verify this strange behaviour?


Thanks a lot for your feedback. I'll have a test tomorrow or the day 
after (I'm attending an event the two next days) and will let you know.


Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] FOSDEM 2024: Call for Participation - Translations Devroom 2024

[sophi]

Hi all,
Le 04/12/2023 à 23:17, Cor Nouws a écrit :

Hi all,

Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote on 04/12/2023 19:21:

Hi Cor,

Em 16/11/2023 06:38, Cor Nouws escreveu:

Hi Paulo,


...
This is (including stuff I snipped out ;) ) definitely interesting 
for our community.


Thanks for explicitly sharing here and looking forward to meet in 
Brussels,


I Hope we can have a proposal from LibreOffice community.


Are there localizers who would be interested to tell about the 
experience from our project, translations for LibreOffice? Experiences 
with (migration to) Weblate, challenges, improvements..?


I guess it can also be remote - not only life in Brussels. And since it 
is longer ago that I contributed regularly to translating, I would 
definitely not consider myself the right person here.


Just a small correction here, there is no remote talks at Fosdem this year.


Looking at FOSDEM site, deadline for submission is Dec. 8 - is that 
correct, Paulo?


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] We need your content for the Annual Report!

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Hi all,

First, thanks a lot to the projects who wrote on their activities, it is 
really appreciated and always interesting to see what's going on locally 
:) So a gentle reminder for others, please add your content to the pad 
of send it to me!

Cheers
Sophie


Le 15/11/2023 à 15:43, sophi a écrit :

Hello all!

You have organized events and/or made contributions together with your 
communities over the year and it is the time where you let the world 
know by just writing a few lines on the pad here:

https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport

Annual Report is a complete book describing the foundation activities 
while working on LibreOffice, Document Liberation Project and ODF Toolkit.


We will add what you wrote on the pad to the Annual Report and will 
publish all the parts on the TDF blog after sending them to the Berlin 
authorities.


Don't hesitate to ping me if you need help or have questions. I can 
publish your parts on the pad if you want, just send me the content.
But please, send your feedback, even if it's two lines, it's already 
great :)


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Annoying issue

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Hi Michael, all
Le 06/09/2023 à 17:43, Michael Wolf a écrit :
Still a question: Is any time limit defined for translation of a string? 
You surely know, sometimes a coffee is more important than a translation 
string. :-)


I come back to this thread because I think you are right.
I was working on Weblate this week-end with people around so I get 
frequently disturbed and I experienced this annoying issue more than 
once. I'll try to see if I can replicate it again, but it might be a 
timeout setting somewhere.
Christian is currently on vacation, so I'll also discuss this with him 
when he is back.

And yes, sometimes a coffee is needed to go on translating ;-)
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[libreoffice-l10n] We need your content for the Annual Report!

[sophi]

Hello all!

You have organized events and/or made contributions together with your 
communities over the year and it is the time where you let the world 
know by just writing a few lines on the pad here:

https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport

Annual Report is a complete book describing the foundation activities 
while working on LibreOffice, Document Liberation Project and ODF Toolkit.


We will add what you wrote on the pad to the Annual Report and will 
publish all the parts on the TDF blog after sending them to the Berlin 
authorities.


Don't hesitate to ping me if you need help or have questions. I can 
publish your parts on the pad if you want, just send me the content.
But please, send your feedback, even if it's two lines, it's already 
great :)


Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Request Translator role for Vietnamese language

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Hi Régis,
Le 14/09/2023 à 11:49, Regis Perdreau a écrit :

Hi,

I just want to know why the first foreign language newcomers are
immediately promoted to translator or administrator upon simple
request.

In France, we are only "suggester"... Need some official answer...


Because we (FR team) wanted you to make some suggestions before granting 
you the role. But it seems you didn't make those suggestions yet. So 
please, do and let us train you :)

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Request Translator role for Vietnamese language

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Hi,

I've added Nguyễn Hoàng Minh in copy who is the main translator for 
Vietnamese, so you can discuss the topic together :)


Le 13/09/2023 à 18:20, Hoàng Ngọc Long a écrit :

Dear team,

Please help to grant me the Translator role for Vietnamese language.
My username is ngoclong19.


Welcome to the group and thanks for your will to help! I granted you 
translator role.


In 
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/formulamessages/vi/, there are many functions with incorrect translation, and I'd like to fix them.

For example, IFNA, IFERROR are translated as ISNA, ISERROR, respectively.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Annoying issue

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Hi Michael, all,
Le 07/09/2023 à 22:30, Michael Wolf a écrit :


7.9.2023 20:01 hodź. Stanislav Horáček napisa:

I experienced the issue some time ago and reported it here [1], so it 
is probably a long-term problem.


However I haven't seen it recently (maybe because I do not translate 
so much as before).




Hi Stanislav,

thank you for your reply. I experienced this issue with this string again:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_help-master/textsharedoptionen/hsb/?q=state%3Aempty=1

Weblate jumped two strings forward and the translated string was empty 
again.


It is similar as in your bug report but "saving" the string doesn't take 
a long time.


I was checking if it happens to me and I had the same error message.
However for me, the translation seems to be saved and doesn't take time 
to be saved.


The strange thing also is it happens after the 5th string, going back in 
the 4 strings already translated to check them, translation was empty 
but it was not the same strings that I already translated. It was new 
strings.


It seems like a mismatched in the display of the strings. Then, I was 
able to translate 50 strings without having the error. That's a strange 
behavior.


Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Specifications for Weblate #5447

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Hi Tuomas,
Le 06/09/2023 à 00:09, Tuomas Hietala a écrit :

Hello Sophie & all,

Sorry for neglecting this issue! I added some comments on GitHub, but 
more input is certainly welcome.


Thanks a lot!


What I had in mind originally was about reviews: currently, if some 
language team wants to switch to review-based workflow, it's not 
possible unless the switch is done site-wide, for every language team. 
But is there something else, too, that each team should be able to 
decice for themselves? And should this feature implemented in a way that 
makes it useful also for projects that host their translations on shared 
Weblate instances, like Hosted Weblate? https://hosted.weblate.org/


That makes sense, and it seems other projects also had similar requests.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Annoying issue

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Hi Michael,
Le 06/09/2023 à 17:02, Michael Wolf a écrit :


6.9.2023 16:01 hodź. sophi napisa:

Hi sophi,


5.9.2023 13:51 hodź. sophi napisa:


Thanks, do you have the link to the string so we can have a look to 
the log? And if you translate it again do you have the message again 
or is it saved normally?


Here is a string where I had this issue:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_help-master/textsharedoptionen/hsb/?q=state%3Aempty=1#machinery

No, the error message is shown after first translation only, at least 
until now.


Ok, thanks a lot, I'll pass all this information to Cloph so he has some 
hints to investigate.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Annoying issue

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Hi Michael,
Le 06/09/2023 à 15:52, Michael Wolf a écrit :


5.9.2023 13:51 hodź. sophi napisa:

Hi sophi,

thank you for your reply.

I talk with Cloph about your issue, but he doesn't see from where it 
could come. He didn't touch the template last week and there is no 
error message he can see.
If you meet again the issue, could you point us to the exact string so 
we can search in the log if something appeared. Also give the exact 
message you get in Weblate and was it for Upper Sorbian?


The issue cropped up again. I have the exact error message now (I 
usually see it in German):


"The source string has changed meanwhile. Please check your changes."
Thanks, do you have the link to the string so we can have a look to the 
log? And if you translate it again do you have the message again or is 
it saved normally?


Weblate jumped one string or more strings forward then. When returning, 
the first of the untranslated string is the string that I've just 
translated and that was not saved,the input box is empty again then.


Yes, it was for Upper Sorbian and maybe also for Lower Sorbian. I don't 
know anymore. I translate the projects alternately, first into Upper 
Sorbian, then into Lower Sorbian.


ok, thanks.

Does any one else experienced this issue?

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[libreoffice-l10n] Specifications for Weblate #5447

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Hi all,

As you know most of the enhancements we requested to Weblate have been 
implemented (thanks to them and TDF for the funding :)


There is one which is not fixed, opened by Tuomas, but they need more 
details on what is wanted:

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5447

Which settings would help you most in your workflow? This will be then 
implemented in the next version.

Thanks a lot in advance
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Annoying issue

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Hi Michael,
Le 02/09/2023 à 19:53, Michael Wolf a écrit :

Hi,

recently an annoying issue often crops up. When I want to save my 
translated string by the Save and Continue button, Weblate tells me that 
the string has already been changed. Weblate jumps some strings forward. 
Since my translation is not saved yet at this moment I have to translate 
the string once more because the translation box is emptied. That's very 
annoying. I saved the error message somewhere but I can't find it again.


I talk with Cloph about your issue, but he doesn't see from where it 
could come. He didn't touch the template last week and there is no error 
message he can see.
If you meet again the issue, could you point us to the exact string so 
we can search in the log if something appeared. Also give the exact 
message you get in Weblate and was it for Upper Sorbian?
I remember having something similar some months ago but was able to save 
my translation nonetheless.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fakes

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Hi Ilmari,

Le 29/08/2023 à 11:28, Ilmari Lauhakangas a écrit :

On 29.8.2023 9.43, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:

I would call it "imitation" or "simulated"/"simulation", it just
imitates/simulates the "proper" numbering.

In the days of OOo every new feature needed first a confirmed design
document where even the UI-mock-up was presented.
Now we just code - and take care of the UI-repercussions later.

And as Miloš wrote, it doesn't work for me (macOS 7.6.0.1), while others
do. It is a "fake" check :)

Lp, m.

V V tor., 29. avg. 2023 ob 07:17 je oseba Yury Tarasievich <
yury.tarasiev...@gmail.com> napisala:


That kind of use of the word feels singularly
inappropriate in the modernworld.
Likely to cause confusion, even indignation.

I mean, how come your program calls my manual
numbering 'fake'?? It is 'unautomated'
numbering, certainly, but 'fake'?

Isn't this taking a bit too much on ourselves?

On 28/08/2023 18:44, Milos Sramek wrote:




https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/swriter/01/accessibility_check.html


Sorry, I quoted the help page incorrectly. The help page does not 
currently mention that there is a check for simulated *captions*.


I have submitted a change to the string:
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/156238

See the code for the checking logic:
https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sw/source/core/access/AccessibilityCheck.cxx?r=8386d8e5#978

To see the string in the UI, open the accessibility sidebar panel.
Type text that starts with Caption, Illustration, Table, Text, Drawing 
or Figure

Immediately insert an image.

Now you should see "Fakes" in the sidebar (without my patch).

The check also works, if the image is anchored to the paragraph with the 
text.


Thanks a lot Ilmari for your quick feedback and your patch.
Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Default autocorrect options by language

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Hi Joan,

Le 14/08/2023 à 17:50, Joan Montané a écrit :

Missatge de Joan Montané  del dia dc., 9 d’ag. 2023
a les 8:43:


Hi,

These days I'm updating some pending minor issues for Catalan l10n
(dictionaries, locale data...) and I need help with "autocorrect
options".

If it's possible, I want "Format ordinal number suffixes (1st ...
1st)" (ChangeOrdinalNumbers at  registrymodifications.xcu) disabled as
default for Catalan language.

Alternatively, avoiding the effect of this option for Catalan language
(i.e., no superscript for ordinal suffixes never) will be a better
option than current behavior.

I've searched at wiki and Bugzilla without luck. Is it possible to
change default autocorrect option for language?



Hi,

Some days ago I wrote previous mail. Maybe it wasn't the correct list
to post this question.

I want to change default value for "Format ordinal number suffixes
(1st ...> 1st)" from Autocorrect option to False for Catalan language
only (or disable such feature). Any hint if it's possible to do it and
how could be done? Or where/who can I ask for guidance?


Vacation period is not the best time to get feedback unfortunately. 
Heiko just came back today and I think he might be able to help you. Not 
sure it is doable at language level because for a long time we got it 
wrong in French. Maybe the best way to get valuable feedback is to open 
an issue and maybe add Heiko in cc.


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[libreoffice-l10n] PR for LibreOffice 7.6 release

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Hi all,

If you are not on the private marketing list and want to translate the 
Press Release for 7.6, please ping me privately, I'll send you the 
document. Italo will send it to journalists some days before the release.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Request access to Santali translation

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Hi Prasanta,
Le 28/07/2023 à 18:20, Prasanta Hembram a écrit :

Hi,

I am writing to request access to Santali translation (
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/libo_ui-master/basctlmessages/sat/).
I am currently doing Santali (Ol Chiki) (
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/sat-Olck/libo_ui-master/)
translation, there are many translations in Santali which can be reused by
doing transcription, giving access allow me to download them and transcribe
them.

I would be grateful if you could grant me access to Santali translation.


It's done, and thanks a lot for taking over Santali translation too. I 
gave you admin rights for the language.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Hard-coded strings

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Le 28/07/2023 à 12:53, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit :

My opinion: no need for that, 7.6.1 is fine.

+1
Cheers
Sophie


Lp, m.


V V pet., 28. jul. 2023 ob 12:50 je oseba Heiko Tietze <
heiko.tie...@documentfoundation.org> napisala:


On 28.07.23 11:54, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:

Mind to fix the bug?

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/155013

We likely don't cherry-pick this for 7.6. But up to you folks.

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[libreoffice-l10n] One string added to 7.6

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Hi all,

Just to make you aware of this patch:
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/154642
which adds one string to 7.6
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Fwd: Please add user vpinheiro to pt-BR translation team, full access

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Hi Olivier,
Le 19/06/2023 à 03:20, Olivier Hallot a écrit :




 Mensagem encaminhada 
Assunto: Please add user vpinheiro to pt-BR translation team, full access
Data: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 21:29:27 -0300
De: Olivier Hallot 
Organização: The Document Foundation
Para: sophi 

Hi Sophie

As $subject... Let me know if you have any questions. I'll train him on 
weblate


It's done, sorry that I missed your direct mail.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Request to be added to Arabic i10n

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Hi Regis,
Le 14/06/2023 à 16:06, Regis Perdreau a écrit :

Hi Sophie ,

By the way, please add me to the french team .

Added you as suggester until JBF and me trained you.
Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Request to be added to Arabic i10n

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Hi Khaled,
Le 14/06/2023 à 16:03, Khaled Hosny a écrit :

Hi,


On 14 Jun 2023, at 4:59 PM, sophi  wrote:

Hi and welcome to the localization team!

Le 14/06/2023 à 14:06, مح . a écrit :

Hi,
Please add me to the Arabic translators in Weblate
my username is: tx99h4


I added you as a reviewer so you'll be able to also accept other suggestions.
You'll find some help on how to translate UI files here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UI_and_Help_files_Content_Guide

Would you have any question, don't hesitate to come back here of directly to me.


Can you add me as well? I tried previously to contact the Arabic language 
contact but got no response.

Yes, he is inactive since July last year. I added you as a reviewer too :)
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Request to be added to Arabic i10n

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Hi and welcome to the localization team!

Le 14/06/2023 à 14:06, مح . a écrit :

Hi,
Please add me to the Arabic translators in Weblate
my username is: tx99h4


I added you as a reviewer so you'll be able to also accept other 
suggestions.

You'll find some help on how to translate UI files here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UI_and_Help_files_Content_Guide

Would you have any question, don't hesitate to come back here of 
directly to me.


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[libreoffice-l10n] Strings changed with tdf#155442

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Hi all,

FYI, this patch reverted a previous commit because:
Accelerator to delete row(s) conflicts with the one for adding row(s)
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/152108

See https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155442 for more 
explanation.

Calc, Draw and Writer have one or two strings changed in 7.5
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] RID_SVXSTR_OUTLINENUM_DESCRIPTION change

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Hi all,
Le 28/04/2023 à 15:06, Justin Luth a écrit :

On 4/28/23 8:40 AM, Eike Rathke wrote:

Hi,

On Thursday, 2023-04-27 18:32:56 -0400, Justin Luth wrote:
The source string description (for RID_SVXSTR_OUTLINENUM_DESCRIPTION_0)
says: “do not translate this; instead describe the nth numbering style
(LC_NumberingLevel) defined by your locale”
That's unfortunate though, because it's not available in Weblate and
translators would have to lookup the locale data source file and even
understand what those numbering level styles are about and how they are
defined.


Perhaps I misunderstand, but Weblate DOES show that comment in the
String Information box.


yes, see here for example: 
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/svxmessages/fr/?checksum=624a668095b32e40


But what I said is nothing new. This has always been true. I'm just
trying to make it very clear - especially since a change has been made.


thanks for that! for a better understanding of the situation, people 
also can read the bug commets

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56258


Is there anything that I should be doing differently? I have no problems
reverting my change(s) if I am doing something wrong, or if there needs
to be better coordination.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Language-code langpack

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Le 20/03/2023 à 15:10, Y.Sol.lei a écrit :

Thank you, Sophie!
I must admit that qtz addon is absent at the list of 7.5.1.2 and 7.5.2.1
versions' langpacks.
When it will be available?

As said on the wiki, it's only for major version, see for example:
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Language-code langpack

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Hi,
Le 17/03/2023 à 21:35, Y.Sol.lei a écrit :

Hi, all!
As I remember, some time ago there was a langpack with QTZ abbreviation in
its name to see a 5-character coding for each item of LibreOffice UI.
For this reason I'd like to ask:
1. What name has that langpack got today?
2. What chapter of LibreOffice Wiki mentions dealing with it?

It's described here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language#KeyID

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] GSoC 2021 translation tooling project

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Hi Tuomas,
Le 15/03/2023 à 16:08, Tuomas Hietala a écrit :

Hello,

The wiki says a GSoC project for improving translation tooling was 
successfully implemented in 2021.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Successfully_Implemented_Ideas#Integrate_.ui_dialogs_with_translation_tooling/string_search_webservice_to_help_translators

However, I haven't seen anything like this in use in TDF Weblate. Is it 
possible to actually enable this? Or if the code needs more work, could 
this be a project idea for this year's GSoC?

It's still a work in progress, see:
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/118884
the final report has more comments:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS-RliG5cHdmyu16X6zk6ir0B7Qe1kvmxkDPYYg5r3L-lUTxfUwMU8j2R2YmaB0WJ_uUL25fQf_nawY/pub

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[libreoffice-l10n] Replace "Mark" with "Entry" in .uno:GotoNextIndexMark, .uno:GotoPrevtIndexMark, and .uno:IndexMarkToIndex

[sophi]

Hi all,

Please have a look at 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153897
The topic is to rename Index Mark by Index Entry. Best is to comment 
directly on the issue if you disagree with this change.

Thanks in advance :)
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[libreoffice-l10n] Weblate enhancements

[sophi]

Hi all,

So after a long time and some difficulties on both sides, we finally 
have a signed contract between TDF and Weblate \o/.


All those tasks should be done within the next 6 months and you can 
follow-up the progress of your favorite one(s) on github:)


https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7205
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5854
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5842
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5447
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4368
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4160
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3242
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/2241
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/2127
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1994
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1661
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/263
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/2969
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5519

Hope that will help enjoy even more our translation work :)
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unusual behavior of Weblate

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Hi Allan,
Le 06/02/2023 à 15:34, Allan Nordhøy a écrit :


On 06.02.2023 12:44, Mihail Balabanov wrote:
Thanks for the clarifications; I'm aware of the three-tier TM but I 
did not

pay attention that the "Delete entry" buttons are shown only where the
"Personal" tier is present in the Origin list. Unfortunately, the 
obsolete

entries and the ones containing typos and such gradually pile up and they
are too many and too scattered to collect them manually. It would be 
better
to be able to delete them as I stumble upon them in the suggestion 
list or

immediately after I realize I have just saved a translation containing a
typo.

I guess regenerating Weblete's TM from the latest one or two project
versions (7.4 and master) would be a good way to clean it up. Can I 
request

such a thing for Bulgarian?

Also, I'm sorry about the broken link, here is a permalink to an entry:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_help-master/textscalc01/bg/?checksum=6ea269b7376bb4cb

For me, the Similarity column is empty for the last 4 suggestions.
No similarity column for me at all. Not even in the language I have 
access to.


The two first strings are ok, the first one being 100%


Can you point to a string where it shows up for you?
I seem to remember the "delete entry" shows up for inconsistent entries.

As an aside, the particular configuration of the LO Weblate hurts 
quality badly.
Not having access to more languages or comments doesn't make the most of 
translator time.


You can add more languages in your settings, or I didn't understand what 
you mean.


Commenting isn't possible, making suggestions for the source language 
isn't possible,


It is possible, I review numerous of them each month, see for example 
comments here:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/cuimessages/en/?checksum=7838224e43a4e9ea

and the source code links are broken.


I clicked on Source string location of the same string 
(https://git.libreoffice.org/core/+/master/cui/inc/tipoftheday.hrc#74) 
in the String information area and it works for me, is it broken for 
you? or could you give a link where it does not work?



As an example, the next string is
"The cell value is strictly less than the user defined value in the text 
box in the right."
where it should be "user-defined" and "on the right". ("in the right" 
means ~moral superiority vs. non-preferable alternative.


If the link to the source appears to be broken for you, an alternative 
could be to open a bug and give the permalink to the string.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Unusual behavior of Weblate

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Hi Mihail,
Le 06/02/2023 à 11:46, Mihail Balabanov a écrit :

Hello,

I noticed two unusual things working with Weblate lately:
- There are sporadic 'Delete entry' buttons. Why do they appear only for a
small percentage of the entries and what do they actually do? I would very
much like to delete erroneous or obsolete entries but the button never
appears on any of them.


Are you talking about Translation Memory? I didn't check but I guess 
this is this one:

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/6440


- Sometimes there is no similarity percentage. This hampers productivity
noticeably because when I know that a string is a 100% match, I can just
click through, otherwise I have to copy and compare in an external program.

This link illustrates both:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_help-master/textscalc01/bg/?q=state%3A


Are you sure this is this string:
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_help-master/textscalc01/bg/?checksum=27e3a9ef45f72d83
because for me there is no automatic suggestions and I think you are 
talking about that.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 7.5 "New Features" video script for translation

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Hi,

Thanks a lot for your translations of the scripts, great to see the many 
languages we have :)

Cheers
Sophie

Le 01/02/2023 à 12:52, Mike Saunders a écrit :

Hi everyone,

The Indonesian community has made another awesome video, and here's the 
script:


https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/7.5_New_Features_Script

If you translate it, I can add the subtitles to the video on YouTube 
(and maybe PeerTube, if possible) when the video goes live :-)


Thanks a lot in advance, for any translations!



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] LibreOffice 7.5 "New Features" video script for translation

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Hi Elisabetta,
Le 02/02/2023 à 11:59, Elisabetta Manuele a écrit :

Hello Mike,Italian translation added.I'd like to ask if it would be possible 
next time to have avideo previewfor translators only. This
   would help to putthe text to be
   translated into contextand
   disambiguated.Thank you very much.


Thanks for your feedback, I'll ask Mike to share the link with the 
unpublished video next time.

Cheers
Sophie
ElisabettaMike Saunders ha scritto il 01/02/2023

   alle 12:52:
Hi
   everyone,The Indonesian community has made another awesome video, and
   here's the 
script:https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Videos/7.5_New_Features_ScriptIf you 
translate it, I can add the subtitles to the video on
   YouTube (and maybe PeerTube, if possible) when the video goes live
   :-)Thanks a lot in advance, for any translations!


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[libreoffice-l10n] Weblate upgraded to 4.15.2

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Hi all,

Christian has now upgraded Weblate to the last version (thanks!).
As said before, there should be improvements on the issue we met with 
suggestions.
Please test the process of editing suggestions and let us know how it 
goes for you.

If you meet any regression or issue, report them on Redmine or here.
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Add Saraiki locale

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Hi,
Le 31/01/2023 à 12:19, پرویز قادر a écrit :

Dear

Add Saraiki language, here Saraiki language is missing.


Are you willing to translate LibreOffice UI in Saraiki or would you like 
to have it in LibreOffice?

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] weblate

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Hi Marco,
Le 29/01/2023 à 21:25, Marco Marega a écrit :

Il 24/01/23 14:48, sophi ha scritto:


Do you have an idea when you'll be able to record the video?
Cheers
Sophie


Hi Sophie,
yesterday I uploaded the video on Nextcloud and shared with you and 
Italian translators Valter and Elisabetta.

Please, let me know if you can see and share it.


Thanks a lot! I've seen it and add it to the issue:
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3584
When 7.5 will be out, Christian will be able to upgrade Weblate to 4.15. 
In the log of the previous version there was "Fixed tracking suggestions 
in history" and we should check then if that fixed our issue.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] weblate

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Hi Marco,
Le 16/01/2023 à 21:19, Marco Marega a écrit :

Hi Sophi, everybody

Il 10/01/23 18:32, sophi ha scritto:


During our call today with the team, we have discussed the issues 
about performances reported from time to time here. Would that help to 
have a debug session with Christian? we could do some screen sharing 
to see what's going on.


@all: who would like to participate to such a session? We could try to 
organize it on Friday afternoon for example or next week?


Yes, it would be nice to have a call.
We talked about it with other Italian translators, and me and Valter are 
interested to take part.
In the evening it should be easier for us, but we can arrange also for 
Friday afternoon.
As an alternative, it is possible to record a short video showing the 
issue and upload it on TDF's Nextcloud.

Do you have an idea when you'll be able to record the video?
Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] weblate

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Hi Marco,
Le 16/01/2023 à 21:19, Marco Marega a écrit :

Hi Sophi, everybody

Il 10/01/23 18:32, sophi ha scritto:


During our call today with the team, we have discussed the issues 
about performances reported from time to time here. Would that help to 
have a debug session with Christian? we could do some screen sharing 
to see what's going on.


@all: who would like to participate to such a session? We could try to 
organize it on Friday afternoon for example or next week?


Yes, it would be nice to have a call.
We talked about it with other Italian translators, and me and Valter are 
interested to take part.

Thanks!
In the evening it should be easier for us, but we can arrange also for 
Friday afternoon.

Let's see if other would join and decide on the time then
As an alternative, it is possible to record a short video showing the 
issue and upload it on TDF's Nextcloud.

That's a good idea, in the meantime, maybe that would help Christian.
Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Feedback for the Annual Report

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Hi DaeHyun,
Le 15/01/2023 à 11:04, DaeHyun Sung a écrit :

Hello, I'm DaeHyun Sung, from South Korea.

I add only one line event on https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport
I promote LibreOffice in Korean after the COVID-19 pandemic that
started in 2020 for the First time.
This talk is ㅡㅛ first face-to-face Korean presentation since the
COVID-19 pandemic that began in 2020. * Ubucon Asia 2022 - Status and
future of LibreOffice Korean community
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL27rPqbshY

I am pleased to add my writing to the annual report.

Thanks a lot.


Thanks a lot to you :)
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] weblate

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Hi Marco, all

Le 03/01/2023 à 23:10, Marco Marega a écrit :

Hi,
Weblate is usually very slow when using "save and continue" or "save and 
stay" buttons, and I know that this issue has already been reported.


But tonight, the whole Weblate instance is so slow to be unusable, every 
page takes many seconds to load and right now I got a "502 Bad Gateway" 
response.

What's happening?

I hope there will be soon a solution to all these Weblate issues.


During our call today with the team, we have discussed the issues about 
performances reported from time to time here. Would that help to have a 
debug session with Christian? we could do some screen sharing to see 
what's going on.


@all: who would like to participate to such a session? We could try to 
organize it on Friday afternoon for example or next week?


Cheers
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[libreoffice-l10n] Feedback for the Annual Report

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Hi all,

This is a gentle reminder that we need your feedback to add to the 
content of the Annual Report.

You can add it here:
https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport
or send it to me if you prefer.
Thanks a lot :)
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate - editing suggestions

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Hi Stanislav,
Le 04/12/2022 à 22:24, Stanislav Horáček a écrit :

Hi,

I know this was already reported before, but the problem is still there: 
when editing a suggestion in Weblate, then saving of that suggestion 
takes too long (maybe tens of seconds). When the suggestion is accepted 
without edits, it is saved immediately.


A workaround is to copy the text, reject the suggestion and enter the 
translation yourself - which is quite discouraging for the suggester (no 
credits for him), but still better than to waste time.


Thanks for any help,
Stanislav

P.S.: I feel that all such reports to this list are forgotten sooner or 
later. Is there a more suitable way how to report Weblate issues? (e.g. 
Redmine for the infrastructure?)


Yes, reporting to Redmine is better and give also clear steps on how to 
reproduce.

Thanks!
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] 6 strings on Weblate locked for translation

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Le 02/12/2022 à 19:12, Michael Wolf a écrit :

2.12.2022 18:12 hodź. sophi napisa:

Hi Sophie,

Thanks for your feedback, that was a lock left over after the last 
update.




Thank you for the quick reply. The strings are translated into hsb and 
dsb now.


great! and all the credits go to Cloph :)
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Locked components on Transifex

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Hi Adam,
Le 02/12/2022 à 17:43, Adam Rak a écrit :

  Hi!

These Transifex components have been locked for some time:

LibreOffice Help - master/text/sdatabase
LibreOffice UI - master/dbaccess/messages
LibreOffice UI - master/sw/messages


Thanks also for that, as said it was a lock left over after the last 
update. And by the way, we use Weblate and not Transifex :)

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] 6 strings on Weblate locked for translation

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Hi Michael,
Le 02/12/2022 à 17:43, Michael Wolf a écrit :

Hi,

for some days there are 6 new strings on Weblate but they are locked. 
Why are they still locked?



https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/-/hsb/?q=state:empty


Thanks for your feedback, that was a lock left over after the last update.

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[libreoffice-l10n] Send your feedback for our Annual Report!

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Dear community,

As each year, we are collecting your feedback on what happened during 
the year in your local communities to add those great stories to our 
Annual Report.


I have prepared the pad here:
https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/annualreport
At the bottom of the pad, I left what was added last year to give an 
example.


We would like have as many languages as possible represented in the 
Annual Report to give visibility to the efforts you brought to the 
project during the year.


If you don't want to add the content to the pad, just send it to me, 
I'll add it. Don't hesitate also to come back to me if you have any 
question.


Thanks a lot in advance for your participation :)
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Redirecting of the Get Help link for zh-CN

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Hi Stanislav,

Le 05/11/2022 à 23:20, Stanislav Horáček a écrit :

Hi,

in such cases as this, I would suggest you to submit an issue to Redmine 
for infrastructure [1] - most of problems I reported there was resolved 
quickly.


However, we had the same "Get Help" request for our language [2] and 
nothing has happened for two years. (And now it is not so urgent as we 
have now a new documentation webpage instead of previous missing one.)


First, sorry for the long time it took. We discussed the issue in our 
team meeting today and it seems it concerns several languages not only 
yours. Olivier will take care of it in the next days, adding a redirect 
where it's needed.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Redirecting of the Get Help link for zh-CN

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Le 07/11/2022 à 18:19, sophi a écrit :

Hi Kevin,
Le 04/11/2022 à 13:50, sophi a écrit :

Hi Kevin,
Le 04/11/2022 à 13:19, Kevin Suo a écrit :

Hi Sophie,


 > This is something you can do by yourself (or the translators in 
your team). I searched for the string and it seems it's already the 
good link that is shown in master, see:
 > 
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/instsetoo_nativeinc_openofficewindowsmsi_languages/zh_Hans/?checksum=41730b607260afdb

 > If you could provide the KeyID of the string, that would help :)


No, it is not that string on weblate. What I mean is that, when I 
click on the Help > Get Help Online menu item, the following webpage 
opens:


https://hub.libreoffice.org/forum/?LOlocale=zh-CN


And then it was immediately redirected to another link which may have 
been defined in somewhere else other then weblate. I remember some 
years ago there was a email requesting that the l10n team provide the 
support link for their language, and we have provided 
https://bbs.libreofficechina.org/. However, now we want to switch to 
https://zh-cn.libreoffice.org/get-help/community-support/ as it 
provides more support channels.


Ok, thanks, let me research on that, and I'll come back to you.


So the hub is managed by the infra team, so I asked Guilhem to change 
the link. I'll let you know when it's done.


It's now done, thanks to Guilhem :)
Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Redirecting of the Get Help link for zh-CN

[sophi]

Hi Stanislav, Olivier,

Le 05/11/2022 à 23:20, Stanislav Horáček a écrit :

Hi,

in such cases as this, I would suggest you to submit an issue to Redmine 
for infrastructure [1] - most of problems I reported there was resolved 
quickly.


However, we had the same "Get Help" request for our language [2] and 
nothing has happened for two years. (And now it is not so urgent as we 
have now a new documentation webpage instead of previous missing one.)


Best regards,
Stanislav

[1] https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/projects/infrastructure
[2] https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3301


@Olivier, could you answer Guilhem on the issue above so we can make 
progress :) Thanks in advance!

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Redirecting of the Get Help link for zh-CN

[sophi]

Hi Kevin,
Le 04/11/2022 à 13:50, sophi a écrit :

Hi Kevin,
Le 04/11/2022 à 13:19, Kevin Suo a écrit :

Hi Sophie,


 > This is something you can do by yourself (or the translators in 
your team). I searched for the string and it seems it's already the 
good link that is shown in master, see:
 > 
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/instsetoo_nativeinc_openofficewindowsmsi_languages/zh_Hans/?checksum=41730b607260afdb

 > If you could provide the KeyID of the string, that would help :)


No, it is not that string on weblate. What I mean is that, when I 
click on the Help > Get Help Online menu item, the following webpage 
opens:


https://hub.libreoffice.org/forum/?LOlocale=zh-CN


And then it was immediately redirected to another link which may have 
been defined in somewhere else other then weblate. I remember some 
years ago there was a email requesting that the l10n team provide the 
support link for their language, and we have provided 
https://bbs.libreofficechina.org/. However, now we want to switch to 
https://zh-cn.libreoffice.org/get-help/community-support/ as it 
provides more support channels.


Ok, thanks, let me research on that, and I'll come back to you.


So the hub is managed by the infra team, so I asked Guilhem to change 
the link. I'll let you know when it's done.

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n]

[sophi]

Hi David,
Le 05/11/2022 à 21:40, David A. Redick a écrit :

Hello!  It is my goal for 2023 to translate LibreOffice into Cherokee.

That's a great goal for you language and for LibreOffice :)


It looks like there are no previous nor current translations in weblate so
I'll have to start from the ground up.  I've read a few of the articles on the
wiki and I think the following is enough to get the ball rolling.


For Weblate, pleas let me know your username there, then I can create 
the language group. Cherokee already exists on Weblate, we need to 
populate the project there:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/chr/


English:Cherokee
Native Syllabary:   ᏣᎳᎩ
Romanized:  Tsalagi
Romanized with phonetic breaks: Tsa-la-gi
ISO 639-2:  chr
ISO 639-3:  chr

It is polysynthetic language, written from left to right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polysynthetic_language

It spoken in by the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians (UKB) in Oklahoma,
the Cherokee Nation (CN) in Oklahoma and the Eastern Band of Cherokee
Indians (EBCI) in North Carolina.

There are dialectical differences and I will focused on what is
taught and spoken in North Carolina.

While the native script is supported by Unicode and LibreOffice Writer
(tested on GNU+Linux),
most real life signage typically has both English and Cherokee side by
side.  Some
may bold certain syllables in the Romanized form to aid with enunciation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_language#/media/File:Cwy_no_parking.jpg

If possible I would like to do something similar in LibreOffice.
Hopefully this will lower
the learning curve and give a lower barrier for self teachers.

It would make navigating the menus... interesting.  I'm open to
suggestions on how to best to do this.

Perhaps two translations projects/entries would be necessary one for
the native and one for the Romanized?
Do you know any other software already translated in Cherokee? First 
thing I could think is having the Romanized form as extended tips.
Not sure what is possible, Christian is currently on vacation, but I'll 
discuss with him when he is back.


Both the Tri-Council and UNESCO have acknowledged that the Tsalagi is
critically endangered so anything that would help "learning while
using" would be worth while.

https://theonefeather.com/2019/06/27/tri-council-declares-state-of-emergency-for-cherokee-language/

https://www.unesco.org/sites/default/files/medias/fichiers/2022/06/redirect_new_world_atlas_of_languages_en.pdf


Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Redirecting of the Get Help link for zh-CN

[sophi]

Hi Kevin,
Le 04/11/2022 à 13:19, Kevin Suo a écrit :

Hi Sophie,


 > This is something you can do by yourself (or the translators in your 
team). I searched for the string and it seems it's already the good link 
that is shown in master, see:
 > 
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/instsetoo_nativeinc_openofficewindowsmsi_languages/zh_Hans/?checksum=41730b607260afdb

 > If you could provide the KeyID of the string, that would help :)


No, it is not that string on weblate. What I mean is that, when I click 
on the Help > Get Help Online menu item, the following webpage opens:


https://hub.libreoffice.org/forum/?LOlocale=zh-CN


And then it was immediately redirected to another link which may have 
been defined in somewhere else other then weblate. I remember some years 
ago there was a email requesting that the l10n team provide the support 
link for their language, and we have provided 
https://bbs.libreofficechina.org/. However, now we want to switch to 
https://zh-cn.libreoffice.org/get-help/community-support/ as it provides 
more support channels.


Ok, thanks, let me research on that, and I'll come back to you.
Cheers
Sophie

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