Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Tags in Help: never to be translated?

[sophi]

Hi Tuomas,
Le 28/05/2020 à 18:20, Tuomas Hietala a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> There's quite a bit of information on translating Help content on the
> wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UI_and_Help_files_Content_Guide
> 
> A TL;DR sort of summary or guideline on the XML tags part would be
> useful, so I'm asking if the following statement would be correct:
> "Do not translate anything inside a tag (that is, between angle brackets)."
> 
> Reading the wiki page, my understanding is that anything between < and
> the nearest > either should not be translated or has no effect if
> translated. The only exception to this would appear to be the xml-lang
> attribute in the  tag. However, based on a quick search, the
> xml-lang attribute doesn't seem to be actually used in  tags
> anywhere in Help. Perhaps the information on the wiki is outdated?

It is a bit outdated, I'll have a look and see what is not used anymore
or has been modified (for example there is now
Ctrl+Ins where "keycode" is not translated).
Otherwise, Olivier added more information in the Documentation part of
the wiki
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation
look at LibreOffice Help Content
But in case of doubt, feel free to ask here

Cheers
Sophie


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[libreoffice-l10n] Tags in Help: never to be translated?

[Tuomas Hietala]

Hello,

There's quite a bit of information on translating Help content on the 
wiki: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UI_and_Help_files_Content_Guide


A TL;DR sort of summary or guideline on the XML tags part would be 
useful, so I'm asking if the following statement would be correct:
"Do not translate anything inside a tag (that is, between angle 
brackets)."


Reading the wiki page, my understanding is that anything between < and 
the nearest > either should not be translated or has no effect if 
translated. The only exception to this would appear to be the xml-lang 
attribute in the  tag. However, based on a quick search, the 
xml-lang attribute doesn't seem to be actually used in  tags 
anywhere in Help. Perhaps the information on the wiki is outdated?


Best regards,
Tuomas

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] tags

[Kolbjørn Stuestøl]

Thank you.

I did not remembered to check the syntax definition :-( .
Kolbjørn

Den 06.04.2016 17:19, Christian Lohmaier skreiv:

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:39 PM, Kolbjørn Stuestøl
 wrote:

Sometimes the  tag is inserted before and after all other XML tags
like this (from Help):

Open a spreadsheet document, choose
[…]

This is invalid according to document syntax definition. switchinline
is not listed as allowed subelement of "emph".


Other times before and after each emphasized word(s) like this:

Open a spreadsheet document, choose
%PRODUCTNAME -
PreferencesTools -
Options - %PRODUCTNAME
Calc - View

This is valid.


Does it matter which method I am using?

Yes. Some are valid combinations according to the helpfile
specification, others are invalid.

The specification is here:
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/help/tree/helpers/xmlhelp.dtd

https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/help/tree/helpers/xmlhelp.dtd#n91



 can contain one or more of PCDATA (i.e. actual text content),
 tags,  tags and , but no other
elements, specifically switchinline is not listed.

ciao
Christian




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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] tags

[Christian Lohmaier]

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:39 PM, Kolbjørn Stuestøl
 wrote:
> Sometimes the  tag is inserted before and after all other XML tags
> like this (from Help):
>
>Open a spreadsheet document, choose
>[…]

This is invalid according to document syntax definition. switchinline
is not listed as allowed subelement of "emph".

> Other times before and after each emphasized word(s) like this:
>
>Open a spreadsheet document, choose
>select="MAC">%PRODUCTNAME -
>PreferencesTools -
>Options - %PRODUCTNAME
>Calc - View

This is valid.

> Does it matter which method I am using?

Yes. Some are valid combinations according to the helpfile
specification, others are invalid.

The specification is here:
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/help/tree/helpers/xmlhelp.dtd

https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/help/tree/helpers/xmlhelp.dtd#n91



 can contain one or more of PCDATA (i.e. actual text content),
 tags,  tags and , but no other
elements, specifically switchinline is not listed.

ciao
Christian

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[libreoffice-l10n] tags

[Kolbjørn Stuestøl]

Sometimes the  tag is inserted before and after all other XML tags 
like this (from Help):


   Open a spreadsheet document, choose
   %PRODUCTNAME -
   PreferencesTools -
   Options - %PRODUCTNAME Calc -
   View


Other times before and after each emphasized word(s) like this:

   Open a spreadsheet document, choose
   %PRODUCTNAME -
   PreferencesTools -
   Options - %PRODUCTNAME
   Calc - View

Does it matter which method I am using?

To me it looks like both methods results in the same text in the end 
help text. *

*In Windows/Linux both methods results in the text:

   Open a spreadsheet document, choose *Tools - Options - LibreOffice
   Calc - View*

Kolbjørn

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[libreoffice-l10n] Tags in new Pootle version

[Sophie]

Hi,

In the new Pootle version, there is a possibility to add tags to the
files. I can see them grouped on the Overview page, but clicking on them
has no action.
Also, in the Pootle documentation, it is said that a filter icon should
be present, but I can't see it nowhere.
Cheers
Sophie
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