Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Difference between Chapter Numbering and Heading Numering
On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 7:50 AM Olivier Hallot < olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > Question that comes to my mind: For consistency, are we planing to > change paragraph style "Heading 1" to "Chapter"? > > Heading > ---Chapter > ---Heading 2 > ---Heading 3 > ---Heading 4 > > ... > No. The reason is in Seth’s message: > The word "chapter" is reserved for headings that have outline > level 1. The whole ordeal of introducing “chapter numbering” to address the lousiness of the original “Outline Numbering” name was mistaken in the first place. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Difference between Chapter Numbering and Heading Numering
Em 06/03/2023 08:13, sdc.bla...@youmail.dk escreveu: On 06-03-2023 08:00, Heiko Tietze wrote: he added the chapter/heading thing to the glossary but I cannot find it. https://help.libreoffice.org/7.6/en-US/text/shared/00/0005.html?=WRITER#chapter https://help.libreoffice.org/7.6/en-US/text/shared/00/0005.html?=WRITER#heading On 05.03.23 16:16, Michael Wolf wrote: maybe it is a stupid question: What is the difference between chapter number(ing) and heading number(ing)? In some strings of LO master occurrences of chapter number(ing) are replaced by heading number(ing). Not a stupid question. It was not easy to find clear explanations of the meaning of "heading", plus technical definitions in the ODF spec have often been used in the UI/help, where the technical meanings of chapter diverge from everyday/common use. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141452#c21 gave some definitions of "chapter" and "heading", which I have tried to follow. Headings are paragraphs or paragraph styles that have an outline level of 1 or greater. The word "chapter" is reserved for headings that have outline level 1. Question that comes to my mind: For consistency, are we planing to change paragraph style "Heading 1" to "Chapter"? Heading ---Chapter ---Heading 2 ---Heading 3 ---Heading 4 ... Cheers -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 LibreOffice – free and open source office suite: https://www.libreoffice.org Respects your privacy, and gives you back control over your data http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Difference between Chapter Numbering and Heading Numering
On 06-03-2023 08:00, Heiko Tietze wrote: he added the chapter/heading thing to the glossary but I cannot find it. https://help.libreoffice.org/7.6/en-US/text/shared/00/0005.html?=WRITER#chapter https://help.libreoffice.org/7.6/en-US/text/shared/00/0005.html?=WRITER#heading On 05.03.23 16:16, Michael Wolf wrote: maybe it is a stupid question: What is the difference between chapter number(ing) and heading number(ing)? In some strings of LO master occurrences of chapter number(ing) are replaced by heading number(ing). Not a stupid question. It was not easy to find clear explanations of the meaning of "heading", plus technical definitions in the ODF spec have often been used in the UI/help, where the technical meanings of chapter diverge from everyday/common use. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141452#c21 gave some definitions of "chapter" and "heading", which I have tried to follow. Headings are paragraphs or paragraph styles that have an outline level of 1 or greater. The word "chapter" is reserved for headings that have outline level 1. With these definitions, it is necessary in many place to refer to "heading" instead of "chapter, to describe accurately the actual/expected behavior of the software. As noted by Heiko, the project now is to try to use consistent and accurate terminology in the UI and online help. Subsequently, I have come to believe that the definition for chapter is somewhat arbitrary (for technical discussion see: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152605#c23), but as noted in bug 152605, I will follow the current conventions. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Difference between Chapter Numbering and Heading Numering
Seth is putting a lot of effort into consistent labels and a correct documentation. And actually I though he added the chapter/heading thing to the glossary but I cannot find it. Chapter: Paragraph with a first level outline like 1. or 2. Heading: Paragraph with any outline level like 1.1 or 2.1 Remember that all headings are just paragraphs, and you make it visually appearing as heading (plus being part of the ToC and listed in the Navigator, etc) by changing the outline level from None (or Text Body so far, see bug 153735) to level 1..10. These levels are special bullet and numbering schemes defined via tools > chapter numbering. Much of this is work in progress and for an overview see https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153751 Of course, you all are welcome to comment On 05.03.23 16:16, Michael Wolf wrote: Hi, maybe it is a stupid question: What is the difference between chapter number(ing) and heading number(ing)? In some strings of LO master occurrences of chapter number(ing) are replaced by heading number(ing). Thanks, Michael -- Dr. Heiko Tietze, UX-Designer and UX-Mentor Tel: +49 30 5557992-63 | Mail: heiko.tie...@documentfoundation.org The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin, DE Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: https://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-l10n] Difference between Chapter Numbering and Heading Numering
Hi, maybe it is a stupid question: What is the difference between chapter number(ing) and heading number(ing)? In some strings of LO master occurrences of chapter number(ing) are replaced by heading number(ing). Thanks, Michael -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
