Re: [lace] Thread facts
Hi Susie, But for whatever reason, here in England we can buy Tanne cops in a wide variety of colours. I have pinks, greens, red (I don't seem to go much on blues) in my drawer right now. Actually one of the things on my list for Saturday and Harrogate Lace Day is some 50 in a pale turquoise shade. I think that will come in the cotona range on a small cotton reel. Jean in Cleveland U.K. On 24 Mar 2004, at 14:37, C. Johnson wrote: Lacemakers In Regard to Maderia thread my Austrialian lace friend sent me this information : The thread all of Europe, Australia and New Zealand called Cotona has been discontinued. The thread that Europe and Australia calls Madeira Tanne is still produced. For some reason Madeira Tanne was called Cotona in the USA and there lies the confusion. The cotona was sewing cotton and was available in a range of colours, whereas the Tanne is lace thread and is available only on larger cops in white, ecru and black. Madeira Tanne is still available. The word Tanne means cotton. Judith Markham Susie Johnson Morris, IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Broken Threads?
Patricia in Wales wrote:- I find it interesting that green seems to damage thread. (snip) I believe I have evidence that the problem may really lie with the colour, and not a rogue batch of cotton fibre, or even Madeira manufacture. After considerable rummaging, I've found the bobbin of thread that caused me so much grief, (why on Earth did I keep it?), when I first decided to experiment with colour in my lace. It's DMC Brillante d'Alsace coton 30, and it carries the number 953, which I take to be a colour code. Anyway, it's a lovely pale green, shading slightly towards turquoise, which matched some hand-made beads I wanted to include. Well, I never got as far as putting in the beads, as the wretched stuff broke with far too much regularity for my peace of mind. I despaired of the project, and - now I come to think of it - of using colour in lace. In fact, I've only just recently dug out my beads and ordered some matching thread, this time in linen, because I *still* have that project at the back of my mind. (Raising its hand and bouncing up and down, wanting to be made - do other people have to put up with that sort of thing, or do I just have an undisciplined mind?) Anyway, I shall try again - and if the thread takes to breaking again, this time I can go back to the lady who is dyeing it for me: I'm sure she'll be intrigued by the problem, and want to discuss it at length. Yours sincerely, Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Broken Threads?
Whether I have been lucky or not, over the last couple of years I have been using the Colcoton Unikat threads quite a lot - including pale green and pale turquoise-green and have had no problems at all with any of the colours breaking, in either of the thicknesses. Unfortunately there is not a very fine one. They are a 2ply, S twist thread whereas the Madeira Cotona and Tanne are Z twist. I note that the original problem was not really *breaking* so much as the thread pulling apart which happens when it becomes untwisted. I have had students with this problem with the white Madeira and I feel it is maybe something to do with the way they handle the thread when winding or how they move their bobbins, but I have never been able to analyse quite what. They all use spangled bobbins, but as one student will have the problem and another not even though they are using the same spool of thread.. The way to solve it is to regularly stop and overtwist any bobbins where the thread is starting to untwist. For some reason it seems to be worse with the 30 and 50 than the 80. Not logical. But this doesn't explain why you may have the problem with one colour and not another, and why the pale greens seem to be so vunerable. Take all the normal care such as pulling the thread off the side of the reel and winding the bobbin onto the thread rather than thread onto bobbin. But having said that, if you were to pull the thread off the right end of the reel as you are winding you would actually be adding a little extra twist which would help to strengthen the thread. It has also been suggested previously on arachne that Z twist threads benefit from being wound anti-clockwise; if you try this don't forget you need to reverse your hitch as well. There is quite an interesting web site about thread www.ylicorp.com which includes an interesting printable booklet on all aspects of thread such as twist, weight, fibre and the different processes that are used in manufacture. Although basically designed for sewers, there is a lot of interesting info there. A couple of relevant things I spotted are that a Z twist is better for sewing machines (hence the Madeira Z twist as they are basically machine embroidery thread not originally lace thread) as the machine action tends to increase a Z twist but untwist and weaken an S twist - maybe the reverse applies to bobbin lace if the thread is wound in the normal clockwise manner.And that amongst the things to look for in a good thread such as strength and uniformity, one of the factors is ply security. Perhaps the pale greens need an extra process in dying that dries the thread, or even makes it more springy so the ply security is affected and it just doesn't find it easy to stay together. Jacquie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Madeira Tanne
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 08:52:00 +, you wrote: Hi Susie, But for whatever reason, here in England we can buy Tanne cops in a wide variety of colours. I have pinks, greens, red (I don't seem to go much on blues) in my drawer right now. Actually one of the things on my list for Saturday and Harrogate Lace Day is some 50 in a pale turquoise shade. I think that will come in the cotona range on a small cotton reel. Jean in Cleveland U.K. I stock about 72 colours in the Tanne 30 range, which is about 3/4 of the whole range. Although I sometimes have to wait a while for certain colours when I re-order, they usually come eventually and as far as Madeira UK know the majority of the range is still available, - however a few colours have been discontinued. I have just checked with Madeira, and they are actually increasing the colour range of the Cotona 30, and possible a few more in the Cotona 50, so no need to worry or panic buy. ttfn Jacqui Jacqui Southworth, Fleetwood, Lancs, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Larkholme Lace - Bobbin Lace Supplies, painted bobbins and tools,books www.larkholmelace.co.uk ***New - Easter 2004 bobbins - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] colour in lace etc.
Angela, I must know...what thread was Miriam using to do colour in her Honiton? :) I've always thought honiton screams for very subtle colouring..is there coloured thread out there that is fine enough? If there is, I wants it!:) Another point that I thought interesting in the last digest..how does Fimo work for making beads for spangles? I've often thought I'd like to make a bottom bead to match my painted bobbins..is it really suitable? Does it stand up to much use? About green threads. I knew a lady who wanted to clean an antique embroidery, which she did very gently and very carefully in distilled water. The whole thing turned out beautifully except the green. It just disintegrated and not a hair was left. At the time I wondered whether it was the chemical composition of the dye itself. I have run up against this a couple of times since with things I have bought at flea markets, and it's always the green thread that falls apart. Interesting. Sharon on rainy, windy Vancouver Island - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re [lace] colour in lace etc.
. . . About green threads. I knew a lady who wanted to clean an antique embroidery, which she did very gently and very carefully in distilled water. The whole thing turned out beautifully except the green. It just disintegrated and not a hair was left. At the time I wondered whether it was the chemical composition of the dye itself. I have run up against this a couple of times since with things I have bought at flea markets, and it's always the green thread that falls apart. Interesting. Sharon = Hi Sharon, I have to think that it is the chemical composition of the green dye stuff. A friend of mine used to make kites from ripstop nylon fabric. In spite of being the same fabric in the same weight from the same manufacturer, the hand of the fabric differed by color rather dramatically. As I recall, the yellow was quite stiff and the purple was soft and flowing. We know that the black dyes used in the 19th century are eating the fabrics they were applied to because of their iron oxide content. That means that most Chantilly is slowly dy(e)ing and is already mostly too fragile to actually wear. Modern dye manufacture is often stymied by ecological constraints into using less than optimal formulations. It seems to me that probably something in the green dye stuffs (some mineral oxide in a solvent) are not easy to bring to a neutral or near neutral state or that once stable, they degrade over time, which also probably means that they oxidize. Oddly, since I like to make lace in wire, a nice bright royal blue wire is non-existent. Maybe for the same kind of reason. Modern enamelled wire is actually coated with polyester much of the time. In any case, it isn't really enamel and doesn't come in a nice bright blue. End of musings . . . Patty - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thread facts
Susie Cotona *is* Tanne; just wound onto smaller reels, and only available in the paler colours (that they think lacemakers want!) I have just checked the Madeira website http://www.madeira.de and Cotona 30, 50 and 80 are in the retail list. On the industrial pages it's Tanne on medium or very large cops although only size 30 is mentioned. But if Cotona is still available in the finer sizes I'd expect Tanne to be available too. Like all Madeira threads Tanne/Cotona is designed as an embroidery thread, primarily for machine embroidery although they do use Tanne 30 to make their stranded cotton. (The reason a single strand of that measures slightly thicker than Tanne is because there is no tension on the skeins of stranded as there is on the reels.) Tanne is a softly spun 2ply thread. That means that when it's used for satin stitch the thread will flatten down and cover the surface well. It also means that for BL such as point ground with lots of twists the threads will enmesh into each other to make a soft lace that drapes well. Regular machine sewing threads made for stitching seams are 3ply, mainly for the extra strength. I don't speak any German, but my English/German dictionary translates tanne as 'fir' as in fir-trees. The German word for cotton is baumwolle. Brenda On 24 Mar 2004, at 14:37, C. Johnson wrote: In Regard to Maderia thread my Austrialian lace friend sent me this information : The thread all of Europe, Australia and New Zealand called Cotona has been discontinued. The thread that Europe and Australia calls Madeira Tanne is still produced. For some reason Madeira Tanne was called Cotona in the USA and there lies the confusion. The cotona was sewing cotton and was available in a range of colours, whereas the Tanne is lace thread and is available only on larger cops in white, ecru and black. Madeira Tanne is still available. The word Tanne means cotton. Brenda http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re [lace] colour in lace etc.
The effect of dyes appears to be quite marked in the rayon sold as crochet silk to day. The pale colours are soft and good to work with but the dark blues and black in the range are so harsh that I would not use them. I have a black shawl in black rayon from many years ago and it is delightful both in appearance and the drape. I have looked without success for thread to work a similar one. Barbara Ballantyne in Sunny Sydney, australia - Original Message - From: Patricia Dowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:48 AM Subject: Re [lace] colour in lace etc. . . . About green threads. I knew a lady who wanted to clean an antique embroidery, which she did very gently and very carefully in distilled water. The whole thing turned out beautifully except the green. It just disintegrated and not a hair was left. At the time I wondered whether it was the chemical composition of the dye itself. I have run up against this a couple of times since with things I have bought at flea markets, and it's always the green thread that falls apart. Interesting. Sharon = Hi Sharon, I have to think that it is the chemical composition of the green dye stuff. A friend of mine used to make kites from ripstop nylon fabric. In spite of being the same fabric in the same weight from the same manufacturer, the hand of the fabric differed by color rather dramatically. As I recall, the yellow was quite stiff and the purple was soft and flowing. We know that the black dyes used in the 19th century are eating the fabrics they were applied to because of their iron oxide content. That means that most Chantilly is slowly dy(e)ing and is already mostly too fragile to actually wear. Modern dye manufacture is often stymied by ecological constraints into using less than optimal formulations. It seems to me that probably something in the green dye stuffs (some mineral oxide in a solvent) are not easy to bring to a neutral or near neutral state or that once stable, they degrade over time, which also probably means that they oxidize. Oddly, since I like to make lace in wire, a nice bright royal blue wire is non-existent. Maybe for the same kind of reason. Modern enamelled wire is actually coated with polyester much of the time. In any case, it isn't really enamel and doesn't come in a nice bright blue. End of musings . . . Patty - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: Broken Threads?/Thread facts
On Mar 25, 2004, at 5:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jacquie Tinch) wrote: But this doesn't explain why you may have the problem with one colour and not another, and why the pale greens seem to be so vunerable. Not only that. I have two very pale greens of the Madeira (Tanne) 50, one being slightly more yellow, the other slightlyu more blue. And only one of them parts with a sigh, the other one doesn't (and neither of the other colours/shades) Linda Walton wrote: [...] I *still* have that project at the back of my mind. (Raising its hand and bouncing up and down, wanting to be made - do other people have to put up with that sort of thing, or do I just have an undisciplined mind?) You just have an undisciplined mind g So do I, which is why it happens to me all the time. There are always some projects that just won't quit nagging and let me rest. They're not interested in deadlines on other projects; they *will* be done, and done *now*, or else... Everything else is a pretender to them, so they'll cause retro-lacing by the yard, make pine-cones of all leaves, and break the threads on anything else... I've learnt to listen to such promptings; in the long run, it's much easier on everyone (them, me and the pretenders) Brenda Paternoster wrote: I don't speak any German, but my English/German dictionary translates tanne as 'fir' as in fir-trees. The German word for cotton is baumwolle. I don't speak any German either, and understand very little by now, but as baumwolle (tree-wool) figured largely (alongside of bawelna and cotton) on many pieces of my clothing in childhood and teens, I'm not likely to forget it :) I also wondered in which language Tanne means cotton... - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Colour in Lace
it's always the green thread that falls apart. I have found this with wool, too: if you work with the Appleton crewel wool (for embroidery), the sea-greens are much thinner and more prone to breakage than any other colour. The greens that are not sea-green are just as strong as the other colours - it always seems to be the sea-green that's the problem. I asked around about this once, and was told that in order to get a nice sea-green the wool has to go through more than dyeing processes than for the other colours. Each dyeing process requires mordanting, which weakens the fibre somewhat, and the result is that the sea-green is extra-weak compared to the other wools that go through fewer processes. Perhaps it is the same for other fibres. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] The Hat
Oh, David, Please wear the hat at Lace Day tomorrow! - (Presuming you will be there.) I am longing to see it! from Liz in Melbourne, Oz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Bedfordshire lace: another cry for help
Hi all, Many thanks to all who sent me contact information for Robin Lewis-Wild, it was very helpful! With a large dose of enthusiasm and a very miniscule amout of common sense, I recently plunged into a big project, the dress cap in Barbara Underwood's book Traditional Bedfordshire Lace book (Plate 4 and pages 38/39, in my edition). I started at the front peak of it and am working backwards towards the three tails. I've been adding pairs every time I turned around, and at the moment I'm down onto the shoulder above the third half-stitch bud from the center, in other words the half-stitch bud where the plait from the circle around the bud leads down to the first half-stitch leaf. So far at least, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of need/opportunity to throw out pairs, it seems like everything I've added I'm going to need still. However, at some point I'm going to have to throw out pairs because they're all headed for the center and it's going to be a mess if they're all still in there. Either throw out pairs, that is, or redirect them somehow. To me, it looks like some of the pairs work downwards through the half-stitch leaves that head toward the center triangle, for example the diagonal/zig-zag plaits between the second and third half-stitch leaf. It also looks like the third and fourth half-stitch leaves on each side may be worked out from the center, where the first and second are worked in towards the center. Am I (literally) headed in the right direction here, or have I let too much enthusiasm turn me around and mess with my head? I'd appreciate any help anyone can give me! Best regards, Elizabeth Leverkusen, Germany, where spring is on its way... slowly - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Button/bead box
Of course, as Tamara said, in addition to the button box, there's the bead box. I started mine as a child, when an aunt gave me a broken necklace. It got added to by other relatives, and I used to swap beads with friends. I've still got some of the ones from my childhood, but I sold nearly all the plastic beads, especially the pearl ones, on ebay - they weighed nearly 2 pounds! They're nearly all glass or stone now - picked up two long strings of coloured agate beads in a charity shop last week for less than a pound each. I used to keep them in a box and loved to run my fingers through them and take out individuals for examination. Now they're sorted into the compartments of three floss boxes by colour. Much easier to find what I want for spangling, but I'll never have enough bobbins use them all. It's still quite satisfying to examine and admire the beads in one colour compartment though. The there are the small tins of sequins and jewels (cut glass, silver or gold backed). And to DH's question Don't you think you've got enough beads now?, the answer's No! Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Broken Threads?
Jacquie i read your comments about winding z threads and considered how I wind my bobbins. In fact. I wind mine anti clockwise as that's one of the things I do lefthanded. Which strengthens the theory it is something in the dye which weakens threads. Patricia in Wales [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Lacemakers T-shirt idea
Hi Fellow-Arachneans, I was looking at a catalog which sells T-shirts with funny sayings one was printed with a fish and had the following also on the shirt: Give a man a fish and he has food for a day. [Picture of a fish is here] Teach a man to fish and he has to buy bamboo rods, graphite reels, monofilament lines, neoprene waders, creels, tackle-boxes, lures, flies, spinners, worm rigs, slip sinkers, offset hooks, gore-tex hats, 20 pocket vests, fish finders, depth sounders, radar, boats, trailers, global positioning systems, coolers and six-packs. My idea was for a T-shirt that says something like: Give a person a piece of lace and they will . [enlarged length of lace inserted here] Teach a person to make lace and they need to buy a lace pillow, pins, a pin-cushion, a dozen bobbins, a pricker, cotton thread, cover cloths, lace books, linen thread, a few more bobbins, scissors, lace patterns, and of course more bobbins. What would you say for the ending of the first sentence? And is there anything you would add to the list of things needed? Maybe someone might even put it into production? Penelope Piip originally from Sydney, Australia, now a resident of Groton, MA, USA. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Lacemakers T-shirt idea
I like this! LOL!!! My idea was for a T-shirt that says something like: Give a person a piece of lace and they will . treasure a heirloom [enlarged length of lace inserted here] Teach a person to make lace and they need to buy a lace pillow, pins, a pin-cushion, a dozen bobbins, a pricker, cotton thread, cover cloths, lace books, linen thread, a few more bobbins, scissors, lace patterns, and of course more bobbins. And is there anything you would add to the list of things needed? What about chocolate? *VBG* and for us tatters, shuttles, beads, charms, ribbons, picot gauges, rulers, thread heaven, shuttle winder, and more shuttles Maybe someone might even put it into production? That makes me think but I want to avoid more troubles. ;-) Wally http://needles-n-shuttles.com http://tat-along.tripod.com http://frivolite.needles-n-shuttles.com http://needledreams.tripod.com To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Button boxes...
I have my mother's button box - a round metal container which has all sorts of odd buttons in it, like metal buttons which look as if they have come from military uniforms, and the sort which attached temporarily, with clips, like the old ones used on nurses' uniforms. Most of Mother's buttons either are, or match, blue (her favourite colour)... a lovely memory of her. Some years ago, I took all the mother-of-pearl buttons out of the box, and put them into a plastic jar - this has now grown into a jar and a couple of tins, as I add more doll-sized buttons. When I started knitting doll clothes, I bought tiny buttons wherever I could, and always bought more than I could use. These I filed in flat plastic cheeseboxes with clear lids, which pile up conveniently. Now, with our town's only haberdashery shop closed, I am more than grateful for my 'pack-rat' tendencies, as I can nearly always find buttons to match the wool I'm using! Erica, in autumnal Hokitika, New Zealand, where the days are colder, but the weather can't seem to make up its mind... Westland District Library Hokitika, New Zealand mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit our website at http://www.minidata.co.nz/westlib --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.639 / Virus Database: 408 - Release Date: 22/03/04 To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :-) The Sunday school class
Subject: Fw: Sunday school class While they were taking up the collection, John leaned forward and said, Hey, Marie, how about you and me go to dinner next Friday? Why, yes, John, that would be nice, said Marie. Well, John couldn't believe his luck. All week long he polished up his car, and on Friday he picked up Marie and took her to dinner, the finest restaurant in Raleigh. When they sat down, John looked over at Marie said, Hey, Marie, would you like a cocktail before dinner? Oh, no, John, said Marie. What would I tell my Sunday School class? Well, John was set back a bit, so he didn't say much until after dinner. Then he reached in his pocket and pulled out a pack of cigarettes. Hey, Marie, said John, would you like a smoke? Oh, no, John, said Marie. What would I tell my Sunday School class? Well, John was feeling pretty low after that, so he just got in his car and was driving Marie home when they passed the Holiday Inn. He'd struck out twice already, so he figured he had nothing to lose. Hey, Marie, said John, how would you like to stop at this motel with me? Sure, John, that would be nice, said Marie. Well, John couldn't believe his luck. He did a U-turn right then and there across the median and everything, and drove back to the motel and checked in with Marie. The next morning John got up first. He looked at Marie lying there in the bed. What have I done? What have I done? thought John. He shook Marie and she woke up. Marie, I've got to ask you one thing, said John. What are you going to tell your Sunday School class? Marie said, The same thing I always tell them . . 'You don't have to smoke and drink to have a good time!' Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] lace in hospital - and my pathology report
Hi all - I wanted to wait until I had the pathology report on my endometrial cancer before reporting back to you, and thanking everyone for thoughts and prayers. The surgery (March 10) went well - I had it my way (spinal as opposed general anesthesia). I'm recuperating well - and the pathology showed that the cancer had gone up to half way into the muscle wall. So I'm feeling very happy about it all. I did take lace to the hospital with me, but had made a makeshift pillow out of a (too) small piece of styrofoam wrapped with a piece of heavy cotton. Bobbins were not wound ahead of time, and I found the whole exercise too frustrating. So I did some crochet (I don't tat, Noelene!), and read and did some logic puzzles. Keeping watch over the old dears in my ward kept me out of mischief, too. I'm as good as 60, and was the youngest by 20 years! All that is behind me - now I wait to see if the Cancer Centre will interest itself in my case. And since we are planning a family reunion of my husband's siblings in July, out comes my proper pillow, and back to making bookmarks! Again, thanx to everyone who thought about me and prayed for me. Bless you all! Rose-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abbtotsford, BC, Canada To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :-) A new form of birth control
After having their 11th child, an Alabama couple decided that was enough, as they could not afford a larger bed. So the husband went to his veterinarian and told him that he and his cousin didn't want to have any more children. The doctor told him that there was a procedure called a vasectomy that could fix the problem but that it was expensive. A less costly alternative, said the doctor, was to go home, get a cherry bomb, (fireworks are legal in Alabama) light it, put it in a beer can, then hold the can up to his ear and count to 10. The Alabamian said to the doctor, I may not be the smartest man in the world, but I don't see how putting a cherry bomb in a beer can next to my ear is going to help me. Trust me, said the doctor. So the man went home, lit a cherry bomb and put it in a beer can. He held the can up to his ear and began to count:1, 2, 3, 4, 5... At which point he paused, placed the beer can between his legs, and resumed counting on his other hand. This procedure also works in Kentucky, Mississippi, parts of Virginia, both Carolinas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and West Virginia. Jean in Poole To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] lace in hospital - and my pathology report
Dear Rose-Marie list, So glad to hear you are on the mend and that you feel good about your pathology report. Continued best wishes for a speedy recovery future good health. Also, many thanks to all for the kind messages I received both on off-list. It is definitely good therapy to have such a great group out there cheering you on. Vicki in Maryland To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: Lacemakers T-shirt idea
On Mar 25, 2004, at 15:30, Pene Piip wrote: My idea was for a T-shirt that says something like: Give a person a piece of lace and they will . Stash it in a drawer? - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: Testing, testing
Since the Programmers or Killers test was so popular, here's two more... :) Both are aimed at US audience, but I thought they might be amusing to soem others as well. Apologies to both sources, but it seemed easier to bundle the two, so each of you will get something old and something new... From: R.P. This is fun (and infuriating) if you have a few spare minutes... http://www.madblast.com/funflash/swf/map_test.swf Failed this one dismally... :) From: C.B. Here's a list of mind teasers... some of it won't make sense to non-US people, but it was fun to take! I got 18. Considering... That the Brothers Grimm version (the one I grew up with, rather than the Disney one) says 7 dwarfs without naming a single one... That a standard pack of matches is an imprecise term (I use a box of wooden ones, and --correctly -- rememberred there are 32. Reason I remembered is that I thought it a rip-off; there are *50* in a Polish matchbox g)... That I'm almost phobic about using the phone, don't watch TV and don't listen to the radio... That I don't like hot-dogs even without buns and don't buy them... In short, that I'm still very much a Yankee at King Arthur's Court, even after 30yrs here... And that I must be a *universal* oddball -- #7 was the wrong answer for me; I checked afterwards... I'd done good, with 15 correct answers. The one I missed and cannot forgive myself for missing is the one about a dollar bill; you'd think, with my ingrained tight-fistedness, I'd know it by heart, but *noo*; instead, I've been thinking in nickel and dimes terms... :) So, see how well you do... The *average* is supposed to be 7 correct answers; must be those lowered standards we keep hearing about, that's supposed to make us feel better about our achievements. Unless, of course, 95% of the test takers are not in the US... :) Mind teasers of COMMON KNOWLEDGE. No cheating! No looking around! No using anything on or in your desk or computer! Can you beat 17?? (The average is 7) Write down your answers and check answers (on the bottom) AFTER completing all the questions. REMEMBER- NO CHEATING!!! LET'S JUST SEE HOW OBSERVANT YOU REALLY ARE. 1. On a standard traffic light, is the green on the top or bottom? 2. How many states are there? (Don't laugh, some people don't know) 3. In which hand is the Statue of Liberty's torch? 4. What six colors are on the classic Campbell's soup label? 5. What two letters don't appear on the telephone dial? (No cheating!) 6. What two numbers on the telephone dial don't have letters by them? 7. When you walk does your left arm swing w/your right or left leg? 8. How many matches are in a standard pack? 9. On the United States flag is the top stripe red or white? 10. What is the lowest number on the FM dial? 11. Which way does water go down the drain, counter or clockwise? 12. Which way does a no smoking sign's slash run? 13. How many channels on a VHF TV dial? 14. Which side of a women's blouse are the buttons on? 15. On a NY license plate, is New York on the top or bottom? 16. Which way do fans rotate? 17. Whose face is on a dime? 18. How many sides does a stop sign have? 19. Do books have even-numbered pages on the right or left side? 20. How many lug nuts are on a standard car wheel? 21. How many sides are there on a standard pencil? 22. Sleepy, Happy, Sneezy, Grumpy, Dopey, Doc. Who's missing? 23. How many hot dog buns are in a standard package? 24. On which playing card is the card maker's trademark? 25. On which side of a Venetian blind is the cord that adjusts the opening between the slats? 26. On the back of a $1 bill, what is in the center? 27. There are 12 buttons on a touch tone phone. What 2 symbols bear no digits? 28. How many curves are there in the standard paper clip? 29. Does a merry-go-round turn counter or clockwise? ** Don't look at answers below until you complete all the questions 1. Bottom 2. 50 (please tell me you got this one!) 3. Right 4. Blue, red, white, yellow, black, gold 5. Q, Z 6. 1, 0 7. Right 8. 20 9. Red 10. 88 11. Counter (north of the equator) 12. Towards bottom right 13. 12 (no #1) 14. Left 15. Top 16. Clockwise as you look at it 17. Roosevelt 18. 8 19. Left 20. 5 21. 6 22. Bashful 23. 8 24. Ace of spades 25. Left 26. ONE 27. *, # 28. 3 29. Counter - Tamara P Duvall Lexington, Virginia, USA Formerly of Warsaw, Poland http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]