[lace] Edwardian farm via satellite

2010-12-04 Thread Jean Nathan

Linda wrote:

It is being broadcast on the Yesterday television
channel, which we receive as a satellite broadcast from Sky.  Is it
possible that you can receive this?

Sky and other satellite signals received in the UK are mainly broadcast via 
the Astra or Eurobird satellites which only cover Europe.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] Beginning Threads

2010-12-04 Thread Brenda Paternoster
It depends on the scale of the pricking you use - Presencia Finca 30 is a lot 
finer than DMC Cordonnet 30.  Finca 20 would be a nearer alternative to 
Cordonnet 30

Handy Hands Lizbeth 20 or Anchor Artiste 20 are both very similar to Cordonnet 
30.  If a softer thread is acceptable then go for a Perle 8 although that won't 
take the punishment of constant reverse lacing that some beginners need to do.

Equivalents to the finer Finca 30 are  Venus 70 (not 80) or marginally finer is 
DMC Special Dentelles 80.

Brenda

 
 I start students with #8 perlé and then go to Finca 30 (Spanish thread) which 
 now comes in several colours or if they are a quick study and I want to use 
 colour DMC fil Dentelle 80 or Venus 80. The last two come in many vibrant 
 colours and small balls of 5 grams which don't break the bank if you want to 
 use several colours in a piece. However, I don't know if these threads would 
 be available to you. Suggest pestering your suppliers to stock them. Good 
 luck!
 
(snip)
 
 Lacemakers in my area used to start beginners with DMC Cordonet 30 thread, 
 which used to come in many colors.  Now it's available only in white and 
 ecru, at least in the USA.  I still have some spools of colored thread left, 
 but it won't last forever.  Besides, the beginners will want to get a supply 
 of their own.
 
 What thread do you use with beginners?  Has anyone found an alternate thread 
 to DMC Cord.30?
 
 I have a few spools of Lizbeth thread, with varigated colors.  This works for 
 some patterns but not all.
 

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.me.uk

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[lace] Lace Guild Advent calendar pattern

2010-12-04 Thread Jean Leader
Jean and David in cold, snowy Glasgow

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[lace] Lace Guild Advent calendar pattern

2010-12-04 Thread Jean Leader
Oops, pressed the wrong button!

What we were going to say was that the Advent calendar picture and pattern for 
2nd December was sent to us by Sue Turnbull, a  member of the list. She sent us 
one for last year's calendar too and we'd like to say a big thank you to her.

This is the thirteenth year that we've produced the Advent calendar and finding 
new pictures and patterns isn't always easy. If you'd like to send us something 
for next year we'd love to hear from you.

Jean and David in cold, snowy Glasgow

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Re: [lace] Beginning Threads

2010-12-04 Thread J-D Hammett

Hi,

Thank you for your e-mail and information. However, nowhere in my e-mail 
have I suggested that Finca 30 was the equivalent of Cordonnet 30. Only what 
I tend to use with my students. There is little difference between the DMC 
fil dentelle and the Venus even though one is 80 and one 70.


Good lacemaking, Joepie





It depends on the scale of the pricking you use - Presencia Finca 30 is a 
lot finer than DMC Cordonnet 30.  Finca 20 would be a nearer alternative to 
Cordonnet 30


Handy Hands Lizbeth 20 or Anchor Artiste 20 are both very similar to 
Cordonnet 30.  If a softer thread is acceptable then go for a Perle 8 
although that won't take the punishment of constant reverse lacing that some 
beginners need to do.


Equivalents to the finer Finca 30 are  Venus 70 (not 80) or marginally finer 
is DMC Special Dentelles 80.


Brenda



I start students with #8 perlé and then go to Finca 30 (Spanish thread) 
which now comes in several colours or if they are a quick study and I want 
to use colour DMC fil Dentelle 80 or Venus 80. The last two come in many 
vibrant colours and small balls of 5 grams which don't break the bank if 
you want to use several colours in a piece. However, I don't know if these 
threads would be available to you. Suggest pestering your suppliers to 
stock them. Good luck!



(snip)


Lacemakers in my area used to start beginners with DMC Cordonet 30 thread, 
which used to come in many colors.  Now it's available only in white and 
ecru, at least in the USA.  I still have some spools of colored thread 
left, but it won't last forever.  Besides, the beginners will want to get 
a supply of their own.


What thread do you use with beginners?  Has anyone found an alternate 
thread to DMC Cord.30?


I have a few spools of Lizbeth thread, with varigated colors.  This works 
for some patterns but not all.




Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.me.uk

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[lace] new posts on LaceNews

2010-12-04 Thread Laurie Waters
I'm starting some posts on LaceNews about collecting commerative medallions 
and currencies with images of lace and lacemakers. Just put up a piece on 
the French Billets de Nécessité.
Please also note the UNESCO addition of Alencon lace to its Representative 
List of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity on November 16th. That 
is the inspiration for this month's featured lace piece.

Laurie
http://LaceNews.net 


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Re: [lace] Beginning Threads

2010-12-04 Thread Laceandbits
Dear Joepie

Although you didn't say Finca 30 was an equivalent to DMC 30, on the other 
hand you didn't say it wasn't, and it was an alternate thread to replace 
DMC30 that Alice was asking for.  So I can quite see why Brenda was just 
making it clear that the two threads are different thickness and that patterns 
will need to be altered accordingly.  

Don't forget that these posts are read by lacemakers of all abilities, and 
it would be a frustrating shame for someone who had got it in their head 
that Finca 30 was a good substitute for DMC 30, only to find that it was 
working up too fine.

Also for beginners or people who haven't used these threads before, DMC Fil 
a Dentelle 80 (30wpc) is actually about 10 percent thinner than the Venus 
70 (27wpc), so if you are using a pricking where the DMC is towards being on 
the thick side, you may not find that Venus is a satisfactory substitute 
without enlarging the pricking a little.  As always, although Brenda's Threads 
for Lace is an invaluable aid to lacemaking, it is still a good idea to 
work a sample for any new thread/major project combination.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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Re: [lace] Lace Guild Advent calendar pattern

2010-12-04 Thread Sue
Now I am blushing, grin.   I have to say that since I joined  arachneI 
have enjoyed seeing and having access to the different patterns submitted by 
various people over that time, so its nice to be able to give something back 
to others.  If I am to donate anything different any other year, however, I 
better get my thinking, designing ideas brewing as I only have more of 
similar.  BTW, I must add to that they my ideas have only come to fruition 
with the help of Daphne Martin a couple of years ago when she helped teach 
me via internet, how to design these baubles, I have had much fun since, 
designing and making them.
Sue T, Dorset UK where the rain has washed all the snow away and our 
daughter is on route for our pre christmas get together weekend.


What we were going to say was that the Advent calendar picture and pattern 
for 2nd December was sent to us by Sue Turnbull, a  member of the list. 
She sent us one for last year's calendar too and we'd like to say a big 
thank you to her.


This is the thirteenth year that we've produced the Advent calendar and 
finding new pictures and patterns isn't always easy. If you'd like to send 
us something for next year we'd love to hear from you.


Jean and David in cold, snowy Glasgow


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Fwd: Re: [lace] DMC #30

2010-12-04 Thread L.Snyder

Handy Hands carries Lizbeth thread in sizes 10, 20, 40 and 80. 105
different colors in all 4, including variegateds.
Lauren

On 04/12/2010 12:23 AM, Lorelei Halley wrote:

Alice
Lizbeth is a size 20, roughly equivalent to DMC #20, so it is a little
thicker.  Pearl size 12 is roughly equal to cordonnet #40 or 35/2 Bockens
linen.  DMC does make it in color, but you have to order it online.  Local
craft shops don't seem to carry it in colors.  But Sulky and Aurifil also make
pearl 12, in beautiful variegated colors and some solids.  But look online.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] Beginning Threads

2010-12-04 Thread L.Snyder

Kathy Kirchner carries Venus.
Lauren

On 04/12/2010 1:03 AM, J-D Hammett wrote:

Hi,

I start students with #8 perlé and then go to Finca 30 (Spanish thread)
which now comes in several colours or if they are a quick study and I
want to use colour DMC fil Dentelle 80 or Venus 80. The last two come in
many vibrant colours and small balls of 5 grams which don't break the
bank if you want to use several colours in a piece. However, I don't
know if these threads would be available to you. Suggest pestering your
suppliers to stock them. Good luck!

Good lacemaking, Joepie, UK



From: lacel...@frontier.com

Lacemakers in my area used to start beginners with DMC Cordonet 30
thread, which used to come in many colors. Now it's available only in
white and ecru, at least in the USA. I still have some spools of colored
thread left, but it won't last forever. Besides, the beginners will want
to get a supply of their own.

What thread do you use with beginners? Has anyone found an alternate
thread to DMC Cord.30?

I have a few spools of Lizbeth thread, with varigated colors. This works
for some patterns but not all.

Alice in Oregon ... Very cold but supposed to be no rain for a day or two.

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Re: [lace] Beginning Threads

2010-12-04 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Jacquie's comment is so right - although the wraps/cm measurement is very 
convenient for comparing thicknesses it doesn't tell you much about how a 
thread will work up.  The number of plies, the direction (and firmness) of 
spin, and of course the type of fibre all contribute to how a thread works up.  
Experience does help, but working a sample is the only way to really know what 
a thread is like to work with and how the finished lace looks and feels. 

Brenda

On 4 Dec 2010, at 14:44, laceandb...@aol.com wrote:

 As always, although Brenda's Threads 
 for Lace is an invaluable aid to lacemaking, it is still a good idea to 
 work a sample for any new thread/major project combination.

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.me.uk

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[lace] bobbin line drawings

2010-12-04 Thread hottleco
Hello All!  To Brian--thank you for posting the drawings.  I was especially 
intrigued by the s'Gravenmoer  Mirecourt shapes.  Pretty  different.  It 
seems like there was some effort at scale in the tables, until I saw the 
Slovenian Idrija bobbins.  A friend gave me some lovely Slovenian bobbins last 
year  they are shaped like one of the pictures but much larger, maybe 1.5+ 
times.  Her family emigrated to the US so they are authentic.  Is this a case 
of the bobbin shape remaining the same across a range of sizes??  Perhaps 
someone who knows more will share.  In the meantime, the tables are a super 
handy resource  easily printed out for future reference.  Sincerely, Susan 
Hottle, in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida for the winter.  Lace pillows were sadly 
left behind in Pennsylvania--no room in the SUV--but I brought Mechlin bobbins 
 Delicas so beaded bobbins are in my future!  

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Re: [lace] DMC #30

2010-12-04 Thread robinlace
 Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com wrote:  Lizbeth is a size 20, 
roughly equivalent to DMC #20, so it is a little thicker.  Pearl size 12 is 
roughly equal to cordonnet #40 or 35/2 Bockens linen.  DMC does make it in 
color, but you have to order it online.  

If you have any needlework shops in your area, you should have no trouble 
getting DMC perle #12 in all the colors it comes in.  You might also check 
JoAnne's and Michael's, but they may only have #5.  There are also catalogue 
and on-line needlework suppliers (Nordic Needle is a good one, but 
Herrschner's, Annie's Attic, etc. probably also carry it).

Robin

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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Re: [lace] Index of world lace bobbins in Drawings ?Help please

2010-12-04 Thread robinlace
Thanks for the images, Brian.  The writing appears to be Dutch (that's the only 
language I've seen ij as a vowel sound).  I think Groenland would be 
Greenland, but I've never heard of a bobbin lace tradition in that country.  
Anybody else?

Robin

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

 Brian Lemin brid...@bigpond.com wrote: 
I have copied and edited the following sets of images on these URls
http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=11u=13882551
http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=10u=13882551
The writing is very hard to discern and in a language that I can only guess 
at (?German?  Don't laugh!!  Perhaps Dutch (more shrieks of laughter... I 
heard you!!  ) :)  I am still learning to speak Strine (Australian) 
and I have been here for more than 30 years.

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[lace-chat] round world

2010-12-04 Thread Agnes Boddington

Well guys here is the real reason the world is round







 Here's your profound thought for the day:



   While creating Husbands, God promised Women that good and ideal 
Husbands would be found in all corners of the world.


   And then He made the earth round.



 Agnes Boddington, Elloughton UK - still snowed in and more to come 
according to the weather forecast.


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[lace-chat] Fw: T'WAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS

2010-12-04 Thread Sue
Subject: Fw: T'WAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS










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  Subject: FW: T'WAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS





T'WAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS,

HE LIVED ALL ALONE,

IN A ONE BEDROOM HOUSE,

MADE OF PLASTER AND STONE.



I HAD COME DOWN THE CHIMNEY,

WITH PRESENTS TO GIVE,

AND TO SEE JUST WHO,

IN THIS HOME, DID LIVE.



I LOOKED ALL ABOUT,

A STRANGE SIGHT I DID SEE,

NO TINSEL, NO PRESENTS,

NOT EVEN A TREE.



NO STOCKING BY MANTLE,

JUST BOOTS FILLED WITH SAND,

ON THE WALL HUNG PICTURES,

OF FAR DISTANT LANDS.



WITH MEDALS AND BADGES,

AWARDS OF ALL KINDS,

A SOBER THOUGHT,

CAME THROUGH MY MIND.



FOR THIS HOUSE WAS DIFFERENT,

IT WAS DARK AND DREARY,

I FOUND THE HOME OF A SOLDIER,

ONCE I COULD SEE CLEARLY.



THE SOLDIER LAY SLEEPING,

SILENT, ALONE,

CURLED UP ON THE FLOOR,

IN THIS ONE BEDROOM HOME.



THE FACE WAS SO GENTLE,

THE ROOM IN  DISORDER,

NOT HOW I PICTURED,

A TRUE BRITISH SOLDIER.



WAS THIS THE HERO,

OF WHOM I'D JUST READ?

CURLED UP ON A PONCHO,
THE FLOOR FOR A BED?


I REALISED THE FAMILIES,

THAT I SAW THIS NIGHT,

OWED THEIR LIVES TO THESE SOLDIERS,

WHO WERE WILLING TO FIGHT.


SOON ROUND THE WORLD,

THE CHILDREN WOULD PLAY,

AND GROWNUPS WOULD CELEBRATE,

A BRIGHT CHRISTMAS DAY.


THEY ALL ENJOYED FREEDOM,

EACH MONTH OF THE YEAR,

BECAUSE OF THE SOLDIERS,

LIKE THE ONE LYING HERE.


I COULDN'T HELP WONDER,

HOW MANY LAY ALONE,

ON A COLD CHRISTMAS EVE,

IN A LAND FAR FROM HOME.


THE VERY THOUGHT BROUGHT,

A TEAR TO MY EYE,

I DROPPED TO MY KNEES,

AND STARTED TO CRY.


THE SOLDIER AWAKENED,

AND I HEARD A ROUGH VOICE,

SANTA DON'T CRY,

THIS LIFE IS MY CHOICE;


I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM,

I DON'T ASK FOR MORE,

MY LIFE IS MY GOD,

MY COUNTRY, MY CORPS..


THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER,

AND DRIFTED TO SLEEP,

I COULDN'T CONTROL IT,

I CONTINUED TO WEEP.


I KEPT WATCH FOR HOURS,

SO SILENT AND STILL,

AND WE BOTH SHIVERED,

FROM THE COLD NIGHT'S CHILL.


I DID NOT WANT TO LEAVE,

ON THAT COLD, DARK, NIGHT,

THIS GUARDIAN OF HONOUR,

SO WILLING TO FIGHT.


THEN THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER,

WITH A VOICE SOFT AND PURE,

WHISPERED, CARRY ON SANTA,