RE: [lace] Spanish language lace
Would a Spanish/Portugeese help page get more of them on http://lace.lacefairy.com/Lace/Map/ than the automated translation does? Then please help me to create such a help page as I don't master these languages. Jo The map assistent of the lacefairy Yes, there's Latin American lacemakers (Spanish and Portuguese-speaking) and the actual Spanish, and we are everywhere, he he he mad scientist cackle - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] what is it?
Hi, I think it may be part of the winding mechanism for industrial weaving bobbins. As Avital states, there is a clear picture on www.fletcherindustries.com but not much further info given. Joepie, in cold, windy East Sussex From: Avital Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 4:36 AM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] what is it? It's a shuttle for an industrial loom. Fletcher Industries still exists and there's a photo of this type of shuttle on their home page. I sometimes wonder whether it ever occurs to these sellers to try Google! http://www.fletcherindustries.com/ Avital On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 11:51 PM, lswaters...@comcast.net wrote: Anyone have a clue what this ebay item is 160554853139 ? Laurie http://lacenews.net - -- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Spanish language lace
I suppose it's part of our nature that as we speak and communicate in English, and many of us can't/don't speak another language, we assume that the majority of lacemakers can speak English. I haven't tried it, but if you googled the words for lace from the 'International Lace Dictionary': dentelle - French Spitzen -German kant - Dutch encaje - Spanish puntes - Catalan trina - Italian merletto - Italian renda - Portuguese knipling - Dutch spets - Swedish pitsi - Finish nyytinki - Finnish csipke - Hungarian krajka - Czech that's without the variations such as lace maker and the languages such as Russian and Japanese you'd probably find whole world of lacemaking that we didn't know existed. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Spanish language lace
I haven't tried it, but if you googled the words for lace from the 'International Lace Dictionary': But you would also get a lot of rubisch, such as the philosopher Immanuel Kant, and the Dutch kant just means side, everything about other side back side etc. The German Sptize means pointy so you will get more church towers than lace, and the French dentelles delivers more mountain ridges and even wines. Even in plain English you would get shoelaces too. So you would need to be more specific. I added row for needle lace and tatting to http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pqBZkXTYrukMmT23E8JxQVQ The knowlegdgebale could add columns for the missing languages. It would be helpfull to complete at least the rows for bobbin lace, needle lace and tatting. There are now two rows for the languages: English and the native version. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Exhibitions in Belgium
Hello, Now there is two wonderfulll exhibitions in Belgium. If you want to have a look : Anvers : https://picasaweb.google.com/nardale/Anvers2011# Tienen : https://picasaweb.google.com/nardale/Tienen2011# Dentelez bien Sof in France with sun - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Spanish language lace
Jo wrote: But you would also get a lot of rubisch, such as the philosopher Immanuel Kant, and the Dutch kant just means side, everything about other side back side etc. And that just illustrates the problem for looking for something in a language we don't know. An idiot suggested that we could get around the problem of different time zones for people communicating on the internet by having internet time. I'm sure there's a similar idiotic answer to communicating with people in other languages. :-D Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Spanish language lace
The ebay-dot-country code is another interesting investigation. Check also the lace magazine websites, where many have chat boards. Use the google translate option and a good dose of problem-solving ;) (knipling is Danish, but you knew that) On 3/6/11, Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk wrote: I haven't tried it, but if you googled the words for lace from the 'International Lace Dictionary': -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Population, vs. Lacemakers to Watch and Learn From
I found this really interesting. My husband is from the Northern Territory of Australia and as he has reminded me - there are more people living the the city of Oxford (where he works) and it's surrounds than the WHOLE of the Northern Territory. Scary!!! But something else to remember is that when I talked about the Honey Mumford model and VARK - this isn't just when you teach face to face - you can write descriptions that encapsulate the concepts of seeing, feeling, touching and doing. It is also about the emotions that you put into the writing to make the reader understand. L --- On Sat, 5/3/11, jeria...@aol.com jeria...@aol.com wrote: snipped Let's make a simple comparison of population per square mile: Maine is a state with a population of approx. 1.3-million in 33,000+ square miles (quick google search) England is a nation with a population of approx. 50-million in 50,000+ square miles (quick google search) You may want to plug in the population/square miles of your geographic area for comparisons. snipped Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Bobbin Lace Instructions - Written Out for the Teacherless
Nancy, You are correct - I should have mentioned that eventually all the types are expected to get on the bike ... and some with trainer wheels. If I'm going to be totally accurate then Honey Mumford's model actually suggests that we have a little of all the styles in us but when push comes to shove we will fall back on our preferred style. There is also evidence that if you are forced or encouraged to learn in one of your non preferred styles you will retain the information better. I have had an argument with another trainer who says that all adult learners are voluntary and so are never forced to learn in a style they don't prefer and I have referred him to craft learning where there is no teacher so you may have to start as a theorist because book learning is your only option. If this isn't being forced into a style then I don't know what is. Now, here is another one for you all. The Dunning Kruger effect. This theory is based on a statement by Charles Darwin; Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. The premise with the Dunning Kruger effect is that the more knowledge you have the more self aware you are and able to know how much further you have to go. High education people often will rate their ability lower than it is because they understand that they still have a lot to learn. Lower skilled people over rate their ability consistantly and not just in their jobs but also the studies have shown in chess and driving as two examples. What I find very interesting with the Lace on Acrachne is that whilst we all have very different educational backgrounds we are all very proactive in adding to our knowledge on lacemaking and crafts and we are all modest about our abilities which makes the group a really nice place to be. L Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ --- On Sat, 5/3/11, Nancy Neff nnef...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Nancy Neff nnef...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [lace] Bobbin Lace Instructions - Written Out for the Teacherless To: The Lace Bee thelace...@btinternet.com, jeria...@aol.com, Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net Cc: lace@arachne.com Date: Saturday, 5 March, 2011, 16:56 Liz, I'd like to think that Pragmatists, in your example, might find a teacher and start riding with training wheels or someone to steady them. I don't think that only Activists would actually get on the bike--even Theorists and Reflectors might eventually! I say this because I might be considered somewhere between a Pragmatist and Theorist, in that I taught myself bobbin lace from books, even Flanders and Binche, only taking classes after starting each type from books. (Maybe a little bit of Activist since I have worked from a pricking without any diagrams or model/picture, but that was only Torchon.) Anyway, I'd like to think that all learning types would eventually get on the bike and learn to ride it themselves! Nancy Connecticut USA From: The Lace Bee thelace...@btinternet.com To: jeria...@aol.com; Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 4:57:28 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Bobbin Lace Instructions - Written Out for the Teacherless When trying to explain Honey Mumford we use the tale of trying to learn to ride a bicycle - and you will all see yourselves in this one: Activists will grab the bike and try to ride it (falling off it and getting back on but keeping trying). Pragmatists will go and get all the bicycle riding studies and start a discussion group on the results of the studies, analysing the data from different sources. Theorists will buy the best book on bicycle riding and study it making sure that they have all the recommended equipment together before even attempting to unlock the bicycle from the gatepost. After all, if you get the right book you could do brain surgery ... Reflectors will stand back and observe the other people, those riding (and falling off the bike), those in the discussion group, those reading the book. They will then start to write down their observations and conclusions and producing data on their observations. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Spanish language lace
Not to correct you, but did you mean Carolina de la Guardia?? And yes there is a great deal of talent and knowledge in Spain. Also I want to know where do you get churros, that fantastic Spanish breakfast pastry, in Toronto. Isabel Wear Realtor Sutton Group - West Coast 7547 Cambie Street Vancouver, BC V6P 3H6 Mobile: 604-377-3475 E-mail: isabel.w...@shaw.ca -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Debora Lustgarten Sent: March-05-11 2:00 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Spanish language lace Hello all, As a matter of fact, there are several Spanish bobbin lace groups that are run through Yahoo, Gmail and other forum sites, the Ibn Al Baytar being just one local group that has a Facebook presence as well as its forum. Yes, there's Latin American lacemakers (Spanish and Portuguese-speaking) and the actual Spanish, and we are everywhere, he he he mad scientist cackle The Brazilian (Portuguese-speaking) lacemakers do both bobbin lace (like that lovely white sun-dress we saw in a link not long ago), and the Nhanduti, which is also known as Teneriffe lace. Also, in regions of Argentina there is a variant of filet lace called randa Tucumana and it's quite lovely. The Spanish lace day albums you can see in Picassa are fantastic because they give an idea of the popularity and passion of bobbin lace on both this and that side of the pond. And if any Arachne ever has a question regarding technique or any other aspect of Spanish bobbin lace, we also have a couple of great Spanish lace designers among us, namely Carolina Guerrero and Antje Gonzalez. Well, I'm off to have hot chocolate and churros this gray and rainy day in Toronto, Debora Lustgarten At 04:30 PM 05/03/2011, bev walker wrote: There is a forum for Spanish speakers. Someone from there left a comment at my lace blog. The Nanduti (sp?) group have a discussion board, it seems to me. From time to time we hear from them 'here.' I'm sure there are more, that we don't know about ;) On 3/5/11, Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com wrote: Jeri and All I've discovered that there are a lot of Spanish speaking lacemakers on Picasa, -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Bobbin Lace Instructions - Written Out for the Teacherless
A name for it--thank you, Liz! The Dunning Kruger effect I've always just said it as The more you know, the more you know how much you don't know. And of course, Darwin said it better, as usual... From: The Lace Bee thelace...@btinternet.com To: jeria...@aol.com; Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net; Nancy Neff nnef...@yahoo.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 1:15:27 PM Subject: Re: [lace] Bobbin Lace Instructions - Written Out for the Teacherless ... Now, here is another one for you all. The Dunning Kruger effect. This theory is based on a statement by Charles Darwin; Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. The premise with the Dunning Kruger effect is that the more knowledge you have the more self aware you are and able to know how much further you have to go. High education people often will rate their ability lower than it is because they understand that they still have a lot to learn. ... - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: Bobbin Lace Instructions - Written Out for the Teacherless
Reflectors will stand back and observe the other people, those riding (and falling off the bike), those in the discussion group, those reading the book. So do you think that Reflectors are perhaps profiled similar to lurkers on lists and comprise a larger percentage of the population? It has always intrigued me how such a small percentage (typically single digits) of many online forums and lists members actually post/contribute information. Best, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: re [lace] lacemakers -- good brain
Lyn -- well said! Devon once told me that she had heard lace-making called the Mensa of crafts. Nancy, trying not to be TOO smug, in Connecticut, USA ;-) From: lynrbai...@desupernet.net lynrbai...@desupernet.net To: Jean Eke jeanmary...@me.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 11:36:19 AM Subject: Re: re [lace] lacemakers -- good brain Dear Spiders, Jean Eke said, It has always been a slow craft where the use of a good brain and time is most of what is needed. I do not participate in any other group that is similar to Arachne, but I am quite impressed by the nature of the discussions. We often give the weather of our locations, and there is a lot of discussion about methods of lace, and where to find this or that which is lace related. But there is also a lot of philosophical discussion. Personally I doubt other crafters start a discussion on how one learns, and the effect of population density on education. Lacemaking requires a good brain, certainly the way it is done today. No one makes the same pattern all her life anymore. These notable brains are certainly in evidence in this discussion group. No need for consensus, but the opinions expressed here are well thought out. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where it's not the beginning of spring, but it is getting to be the end of winter. My daffodils, always late, are poking up. I must go look for my snowdrops. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Dunning Kruger effect
When developping software and trying new techniques, I frequently say something like: not disturbed by any knowledge I acomplished ... Way back someone explained the difference between an IT-profeesional an a mathematicion (or me and him, or a pargamatic versus ...) with the same words in different order: an ITp does not know why it works, a M does know why it does not work. Hmm, in English one of the words spells differently. I also heard about the evolution: Uncounsiously incompetent, counsiously incompetent, counsiously competent, incounsiously competent. I guess Darwins phrase or the Dunning Kruger effect is about the counsiously competent. Jo Darwin; Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Bobbin Lace Instructions - Written Out for the Teacherless
Hi All, This is not bobbin lace, but nevertheless lace - crocheting. I first learned from my grandmother when I was about 9 1/2 when she was dieing from cancer, and I taught my girls, one at about 6. Jeanette now lives in Windsor, Ontario, and in the last few months before she left home for Canada, one of her friends was having a baby. Since I first taught her at 6, she only did granny squares - just large ones for babies. I did not give her a choice, bought a pattern for a shawl and told her she was going to make that one. Following the experience of learning to read a pattern, she has produced some amazing things including a striped rug with 3D sunflowers. Seems to be like unlocking something or holding their hands while they take the first step then they are off. Personally, I learned from the Correspondence Course run by the Australian Lace Guild, the text of which is Rosemary Shepard's book. Having started school with Correspondence (now called Distance Education here) could have helped. I can learn from books on my own after having studied the text, watched videos - am about to launch my Tape Lace stage. Mary Carey Campbelltown, NSW, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: re [lace] lacemakers -- good brain
I do belong to Mensa, and I find that lacemaking is a very enjoyable stretching exercise for my brain G. Margery. == margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Herts, UK == Lyn Bailey wrote: As I wrote to someone else, there is no sense in being proud of one's brain. We didn't do anything to get it. On the other hand, I think one should be proud of the hard work and dedication it takes to use said brain to its limits. The grade for effort is the most important one. Lyn in Lancaster, PA, US, where it's warm and rainy, 58F, 13C. But it's spring, and they're talking freezing rain and snow later. Nancy Neff wrote: Lyn -- well said! Devon once told me that she had heard lace-making called the Mensa of crafts. Nancy, trying not to be TOO smug, in Connecticut, USA ;-) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: re [lace] lacemakers -- good brain
Has anyone heard of a study concerning lacemaking preserving the brain the way they say doing the New York Times crossword puzzle is supposed to? I've never done the New York Times crossword puzzle, although I've tried. So lacemaking doing the same thing would be nice. Looking at lacemaking, I thought that it required a mathematical brain, not numbers, but seeing patterns, and things going in, then coming out. I think it takes a special kind of brain to see that. lrb - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: re [lace] lacemakers -- good brain
As I wrote to someone else, there is no sense in being proud of one's brain. We didn't do anything to get it. On the other hand, I think one should be proud of the hard work and dedication it takes to use said brain to its limits. The grade for effort is the most important one. Lyn in Lancaster, PA, US, where it's warm and rainy, 58F, 13C. But it's spring, and they're talking freezing rain and snow later. -Original Message- From: Nancy Neff nnef...@yahoo.com Sent: Mar 6, 2011 2:02 PM To: lynrbai...@desupernet.net Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: re [lace] lacemakers -- good brain Lyn -- well said! Devon once told me that she had heard lace-making called the Mensa of crafts. Nancy, trying not to be TOO smug, in Connecticut, USA ;-) From: lynrbai...@desupernet.net lynrbai...@desupernet.net To: Jean Eke jeanmary...@me.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 11:36:19 AM Subject: Re: re [lace] lacemakers -- good brain Dear Spiders, Jean Eke said, It has always been a slow craft where the use of a good brain and time is most of what is needed. I do not participate in any other group that is similar to Arachne, but I am quite impressed by the nature of the discussions. We often give the weather of our locations, and there is a lot of discussion about methods of lace, and where to find this or that which is lace related. But there is also a lot of philosophical discussion. Personally I doubt other crafters start a discussion on how one learns, and the effect of population density on education. Lacemaking requires a good brain, certainly the way it is done today. No one makes the same pattern all her life anymore. These notable brains are certainly in evidence in this discussion group. No need for consensus, but the opinions expressed here are well thought out. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where it's not the beginning of spring, but it is getting to be the end of winter. My daffodils, always late, are poking up. I must go look for my snowdrops. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] brain exercise
I've heard the new reports about cross word puzzles keeping the brain active, and how important learning new things is for keeping dementia of age and alzheimers at bay. From the very first time I heard those things I thought that the news reporters and doctors had no idea what they were missing. Those poor fools have no idea. Lace making of any kind involves more brain activity than crossword puzzles, it seems to me. I had a friend who was a pharmacist and who made marvelous embroideries. She took something to work to do on her lunch hour. And her boss told her he didn't want to see any of that at work. It made the whole pharmacy look bad, he said. Apparently he thought only mindless idiots did embroidery or lace making, and that if customers saw her doing embroidery they would not trust her to fill their prescriptions. The world is full of idiots. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Spanish language lace
Many apologies - I put knipling as Dutch instead of Danish. I found it very difficult to type the foreign words and my brain scrambled. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Bobbin Lace Instructions - Written Out for the Teacherless
I too learned from Rosemary Shepherd's book. But my help at the time was the Arachne list (12 years ago now!) who came to my aid on many occasions. Have fun with your Tape Lace stage Mary - Arachne was invaluable when I started mine. Noelene in Cooma I'm a pragmatist, I think, from Liz's Honey Mumford list, with leanings of being an activist. nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au Personally, I learned from the Correspondence Course run by the Australian Lace Guild, the text of which is Rosemary Shepard's book. - am about to launch my Tape Lace stage. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] lace photos
Here are some modern bobbin neck laces by Anna Halicova, posted on picasa. https://picasaweb.google.com/116200831956256846396/AnnaHalikovaSperky?feat=co ntent_notification# Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Population, vs. Lacemakers to Watch and Learn From
Jeri - I took the challenge and rather than do state I am in, I did the region. (not sure on the state numbers of lacemakers) Kimberley Western Australia size - 423,517 square kilometres (163,521 sq mi) population - 41,000 known lacemakers - 6 adults and 8 children Maths has never been my thing but I think that works out to be 1 lace maker per 11,600 square miles or 1 in every 3,000 people are lace makers. When I started lace making in Feb 2005 there were 2 lace makers + me so we have improved the demographics :-) In that time we have also demonstrated approx 21 times a year and exhibited 4 times at the Kununurra Agricultural Show each June. Lets narrow the statistical area to just the Shire (or County for you US and UK folk) Shire of Wyndham East Kimberley Size - 121,000 sq km Population - 7,500 1 lace maker per 8,600 sq km 1 in every 535 people are lace makers Either way, that is a small percentage of lace makers and if I had not counted the children the stats would be even more extreme. LOL maybe I should not have done this as it now makes me wonder how the demographics compare for all of Arachne - or even the whole world - I wonder where we could get statistics like that? Grrr, my cat has just knocked my lace pillow onto the floor - upside down of course. Got to go. Hugs Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] A true lacemaker is able to 'read a pricking'
This is one thing I had recently discussed with the Kununurra Lace Group as over 50% said that they could not read a pricking without a picture of the finished lace. These ladies have less than 2 years experience each. We spent a fun evening going through my collection of patterns and analysing the elements that make that pattern unique. It was great to find that the ladies DID know how to read a pricking but had not realised it. Every one of them recognised each element and by the end of the evening could identify patterns they could make versus those they needed to learn the stitches for. The one thing they had not realised was that elements can be changed by the lace maker to make a different piece of lace. Eg: a 6x6 pin area could hold a multitude of elements and changing a pattern is not a crime. All up a great evening where we all went home feeling like we had learnt something. Every one of them went away more confident in their own abilities. Was that hand holding? I don't think so! I consider it EMPOWERING the individual. hugs Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Belgian links spreadsheet of lace terms
Hello All! Thank you sof, for posting the links. Some very interesting modern interpretations plus a few more garments that I would make space in my closet to own! Thanks Jo for posting the spreadsheet. It reminds me of lists that I've seen for equivalent embroidery terms in French. Before I traveled to France for classes, I printed out the info to help me over the rough patches. When I Googled today, of course I couldn't find the ones that I'm referring to! When I get back to PA, I'll excavate post the link. I did find CNRTL--http://www.cnrtl.fr It looks like a fun site to explore I found a section on lace in the Diderot encyclopedia but I'm not sure how I got there! Perhaps someone on Arachne with a better command of the language could advise. I still marvel at how many Europeans use more than two languages! Fluent in two can get by in a couple more!! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, sunny 81* today with a much needed afternoon show er - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] a true lacemaker
Kununurra is a highly transient town so the sooner we can teach a beginner to 'stand alone' the better as they move on and if they don't have the confidence to work alone, may give up the craft all together. Not many towns in my state have groups in fact the nearest group in WA would have to be Perth, some 3,000 km away. Bit far for a lace day. Hugs Jenny B - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Help ! and help with threads
Dot Goetsch is having problems with her e-mail and asked me to forward this request to you kind souls. Jeanette Fischer, Western Cape, South Africa. Dear Spiders, I am needing some help with threads. I am wanting to work on a Bayeau lace piece in the Book La Dentelle de Bayeau by Mick Fouriscot and Mylene Salvador. Unfortunately I am only english speaking and am following the instructions only by the diagrams. The thread called for is 'coton egyptien n [small degree o] 80' and a gimp of 'cordon de lin n[small degree o] 18/3' which is fairly easy to decipher, but when I look at egyptian cotton in Brenda's book find it written as 80/2. Will this be the same as the former, or what would be the thread count for a substitute? Thanks Dot Goetsch Port Elizabeth South Africa Where our drought continues while the rest of the country is having more than enough rain. (Not here - we are dying of heat :-) Jeanette) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Han -holding
from Jenny - Was that hand holding? I don't think so! I consider it EMPOWERING the individual. What's wrong with 'hand-holding'? Isn't it another name for teaching? Making everyone re-invent the wheel is for those who cannot or who are too lazy to teach. Keep lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
