Re: [lace] French roller pillow roller
Tight! As tight as your fingers can do it... or you and someone else to help. You don't want it to slip or move when done. The pins need to be held firmly in place when making lace. Alice in Oregon - Original Message - From: lizke...@netscape.net I need some suggestions from anyone willing to offer them! I bought a used bobbin lace pillow that is like a French roller pillow. ,,, but no roller pillow. ... I would like to make a roller to go in it and I have wool, but I'm not sure how tightly the wool should be wound on the dowel. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Tambour Hooks for Coggeshall lace, and a 3rd hand for weavers knots.
A true Tambour Hook doesn't have a latch such as a rug hook has. It has a barb like a fish hook and this is what makes it hard to get out of your hand if you are silly enough to get it caught under the skin, as I once did mine. I was in the house on my own one evening and had to get a taxi to take me to the emergency centre to get the thing removed and a tetanus booster injection. Did I feel stupid! I have just found by googling that Jo Firth in the UK sells Tambour Hooks http://www.jofirthlacemaking.co.uk/viewProduct.php?id=692 But the page does say they have sold out of some sizes and can't source more. You can see the hooks and holder in a photo on the page. Mainlylace in the Uk also sell Tambour hooks for Coggeshall lace http://mainlylace.co.uk/shop/accessories/shuttles-hooks/tambour-hooks.html Enlarge the photo to see the hooks more clearly, you can see how the hook is longer and more curled over, than a normal crochet hook. This forms a barb in the hook rather than there being a latch. The fine type of hook with a latch I have seen sold at lace days is the type that would have been used in times past for repairing runs in stocking, by picking up the Dropped Stitch and knitting it back up. Some lacemakers use these latch hooks but I don't really know what for, at least I have seen bobbin lacemakers buying these hooks at lace days, maybe they use them for sewings. Something else that might be of interest to other lacemakers is that the same scharleaken site as I mentioned yesterday sells those pincer things called a third hand by some. These are a sprung tweezer type of thing that is very useful when making weavers knots in lace threads that have snapped on the pillow. You can hold the short loose end of thread with this 3rd. hand while you tighten the knot with your two hands. Marvellous!! (But of course you will get rid of the knotted thread as soon as possible and not work it into your lace). http://www.scharlaeken.be/en/default.dhtml Look under Accesoires(sic) and then under Lacematerials, the pincer thing is the first item on the page. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Sue Babbs wrote. The easiest way to describe the tambour hook is to think of it as a miniature rug hook i.e. the flap closes as you pull the hook back through the net. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Latch hooks and 3rd hand for weavers knots.
Hi Arachnids, The tiny latch hooks are sometimes used to take sewings. Some people have problems using other methods such as a crochet hook, needle pin or lazy susie (bent needle in handle, eye out) , but I discourage my student from using the latch-hooks as they are clumsy and tend to enlarge the holes. Stocking repair hooks or knitting machine needles with the tabs removed are used. The 3rd hand , which is really a pair of mini hackle pliers as used by people who tie flies for fly-fishing. This is used to hold the, sometimes very, short end of a broken thread so that you can put a weavers knot on to this short end with the bobbin thread. This is extremely useful. I usually carry a few for my students, but you should be able to source them from any good fishing tackle shop. As you can see we are back from Cuba; glad to be home as this has not been not one of our better holidays. Not found any lace but an interesting sun-visor crocheted with ring-pulls (I will do a photograph when I have more time) and some nice pulled thread embroidery. No photos though as all our photographic equipment was stolen in Havana. Happy lace making, Joepie in East Sussex, UK From: Jenny De Angelis A true Tambour Hook doesn't have a latch such as a rug hook has. It has a barb like a fish hook and this is what makes it hard to get out of your hand if you are silly enough to get it caught under the skin, Jo Firth in the UK sells Tambour Hooks http://www.jofirthlacemaking.co.uk/viewProduct.php?id=692 Mainlylace in the Uk also sell Tambour hooks for Coggeshall lace http://mainlylace.co.uk/shop/accessories/shuttles-hooks/tambour-hooks.html The fine type of hook with a latch I have seen sold at lace days is the type that would have been used in times past for repairing runs in stocking, by picking up the Dropped Stitch and knitting it back up. Some lacemakers use these latch hooks but I don't really know what for, at least I have seen bobbin lacemakers buying these hooks at lace days, maybe they use them for sewings. These are a sprung tweezer type of thing that is very useful when making weavers knots in lace threads that have snapped on the pillow. You can hold the short loose end of thread with this 3rd. hand while you tighten the knot with your two hands. Marvellous!! (But of course you will get rid of the knotted thread as soon as possible and not work it into your lace). http://www.scharlaeken.be/en/default.dhtml Regards Jenny DeAngelis - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Tambour Hooks for Coggeshall lace, and a 3rd hand for weavers knots.
Sorry folks, I seriously misremembered that one! It's nearly 20 years since I did the required tambour lacemaking for City and Guilds, and I was sure I remembered the hook having a latch. When Jacqui mentioned it, I recalled the twist motion to get the hook back out of the work, which wouldn't be needed with a latch. I got the hooks out to check, and they don't have a latch but instead a more serious barb than a fine crochet hook. You can guess I didn't really take to tambouring! Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] French roller pillow roller
I would like to make a roller to go in it and I have wool, but I'm not sure how tightly the wool should be wound on the dowel. Be sure to shrink the wool first. Easiest way is put it in the washer on the hottest cycle and run it through once or twice. Then put it in the dryer on the hottest temperature until it's dry. And as Alice said in her reply, wind it as tightly as you can. It always takes me a few tries to get it tight enough. Enjoy! Peg in Fairview Park OH where it's cloudy and chilly...what happened to that smooth segue into Autumn this year? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] French roller pillow roller
Just a quick thought while we're on the subject. We have quite a few of those old acrylic wool blankets (remember how scratchy they were?) That are well washed and a bit ratty now, I wonder how they would fare as padding for a roller - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] French roller pillow roller
Peg in Fairview Park OH where it's cloudy and chilly...what happened to that smooth segue into Autumn this year? It is waiting for Ithaca weekend so that Lyn and her friend who are camping won't freeze and so that we all have a good drive with no s No, I can't mentioned that word yet. Malvary in Ottawa where we have a lovely sunny day, but we had frost overnight - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] French roller pillow roller
Before making a roller with them, I would suggest trying to stick a pin into a few taut layers of them, and seeing if it goes in easily, and holds its position well Sue sueba...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Lora Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:14 AM We have quite a few of those old acrylic wool blankets (remember how scratchy they were?) That are well washed and a bit ratty now, I wonder how they would fare as padding for a roller - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Tambour inter-library loan
Hello All! May I recommend Lierse kant oud en nieuw by Greet Rome-Verbeylen? I purchased this book when I attended a workshop in the Detroit area where she was one the teachers. The information is presented in four languages covers the basics some fillings. There is a nice explanation/sketch of the hook motion required to make each stitch filling drawings show thread paths so it is very easy to follow. Tambour supplies are available in the US at The Lacemaker in Cortland, OH where I purchased a 3-hook tambour set, the cotton tulle a frame. Usual disclaimers, satisfied customer, etc. etc. I first saw this lace, up close personal, in LaBourboule, France where it was worked in the traditional way--all white. In Greet's class we worked in color with metallics so it was a different result altogether I would certainly recommend her as a teacher. As to ILL (inter-library loan), I think Lyn was referring to www.worldcat.org. This is a great place to look fo! r stuff I think I've mentioned it before for hard-to-find books. Your local ILL contact will need the OCLC number, noted near the bottom of the list with the ISBN. My adventures with the local ILL dept. have been bumpy to say the least. It's best to have your OCLC number in hand before requesting. That way you have already looked over ALL the possible listings for the requested book. If not, the person who is looking may not read beyond the first entry, thereby denying your request as not available. NOTE--Multiple listings for the same book often do not list the same lending sources! My local library rations ILL to two books per patron because of cost. They informed me that ILL service costs over $30 per request that it would be cheaper to buy the books. But they don't do that either because they are underfunded. Andrew Carnegie (famous US industrialist philanthropist who donated money for hundreds of libraries across the US) must be spinning in his grave.! I would note that fiction movie DVDs are in plentiful supply! So to recap--the books that will be in paperback soon or that you can buy at a yard sale for $1 are readily available at the library while expensive, non-fiction, where-you-might-actually-learn-something-type books are scarce as hens' teeth. Off soapbox now. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Cluny de Brioude (dentelle polychrome)
Guys, Your help if you can. I've just started looking at my copy of Cluny de Brioude and was pleasantly surprised to find that my school girl french is far better when it comes to making lace than it is when trying to buy food in Paris. however, for the life of me I cannot work out the manufacturer of the threads used. Am I missing something? Is it clearly written on a page I've skimmed read? If you could help I've be very greatful as being a totally twit I'm rather in the mood to try making the necklace on the front cover. Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ --- On Sat, 17/9/11, Sue hurwitz...@btinternet.com wrote: From: Sue hurwitz...@btinternet.com Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Tambour Hook (was Other Laces) To: Jacquie Tinch laceandb...@aol.com, lace@arachne.com Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 16:02 I did see the tambour hook in use, also mention of crochet hooks and latch hooks, but I could see the possible problems with those. I liked the look of it and did see the rhythm used. I am too busy right now to try, but I do fancy having a go, so might look to buy the hook and make sure I have the necessary things to at least do one small piece. My DH was thinking I might make a piece of bobbin lace like his fathers regimental badge ( I must look like a genious, LOL) but I think it might work with the tambour outline drawing. But to have a go at a simple piece would give me a taste of the craft. I got my garter piece onto the pillow and 3/4 of the pairs working at least. Need to wind a few more pairs for the outside edges next and then off I go. So thank you all for you ideas of thread amounts and also you info about tambour hooks. Sue T Dorset UK, where we have sunshine between torrential downpours, left over bits of your hurricanes I think. A proper tambour hook doesn't have a latch! That's what makes it hard to use. But because it doesn't have a latch, you don't have the problem of the latch closing when you are using it in a point down/handle up direction, (as you do on net,) and is why an experienced tambourer can work extremely fast. You have to master a sort of twist back and forth on the handle as you go up and down, along with a pressure of the smooth side of the hook against the net, and this along with tension on the thread, is what keeps the thread in the hook while allowing the open hook to go in and out of the holes without snagging. I found it much easier to move in some directions than in others. It is one of those skills which really does fall into the everything in life is rhythm and practise motto. Jacquie in Lincolnshire. The easiest way to describe the tambour hook is to think of it as a miniature rug hook i.e. the flap closes as you pull the hook back through the net. Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Lace book prices
I just bought a booklet of patterns on ebay (not from Jean) and paid, with postage less than the orgianl cost of the book according to the sticker on the front of the book. The bidding opened at 99p and I put in £4 at the start of the process. It never reached my maximum. We have been bidding on different items and what I am noticing is that a few hours before the end of the bidding, if no one has bid on the item apart from me, someone comes in and make one bid higher than I've initially offered but not too high to push me out of the bidding. They then don't bid again. I've looked at the bidder's history and on one item I bought this person has bid 15 times and never won anything, yet the book I bought went for £3 but until an hour before the bidding ended it was at 99p. Call me suspicious Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ --- On Thu, 15/9/11, Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk wrote: From: Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk snipped DH asked what I paid for a book that I listed. I told him that it doesn't matter what I paid - if I want to sell it, I'll get the price someone is prepared to pay. What a particular book will sell for will vary depending on whether it's in demand. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] wool blanket
Lora A well washed old wool blanket is exactly the perfect thing for padding a roller or making a cookie pillow. Machine washed in hot water and then machine dried makes it get thick, which is just what you want. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] French roller pillow roller
Malvary, you are thinking evil thoughts. One does not even think of such nasties in October in Ithaca. It was bad enough last year when it was 25F -3.5C one morning. The other stuff is not an option. AND if the unthinkable does happen, you are to blame because of your evil thoughts, and you WILL have 2 people in sleeping bags on the floor of your room. Just so's you know. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, where the weather is now sunny, 49F 8.5C at 6 p.m. If it's only that chilly in Ithaca, it will be lovely. -Original Message- From: Malvary Cole malva...@sympatico.ca Sent: Sep 17, 2011 9:37 AM To: Witchy Woman wytchy...@sbcglobal.net, lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] French roller pillow roller Peg in Fairview Park OH where it's cloudy and chilly...what happened to that smooth segue into Autumn this year? It is waiting for Ithaca weekend so that Lyn and her friend who are camping won't freeze and so that we all have a good drive with no s No, I can't mentioned that word yet. Malvary in Ottawa where we have a lovely sunny day, but we had frost overnight - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Cluny de Brioude (dentelle polychrome)
I don't think it is ever specifically mentioned, but, I think the Soie d'Alger is made by Au Ver a Soie (you can see this on the labels pictured on pg 11) The 150 denier silk I believe is the cones pictured on the same page, by Bart Francis in Belgium. Hope that helps some! Trudy in Colorado, USA - Original Message - however, for the life of me I cannot work out the manufacturer of the threads used.� Am I missing something?� Is it clearly written on a page I've skimmed read? � I - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] re Casper Netscher's Lacemaker
In the booklet, 'Highlights, The Wallace Collection' published by The Trustees of the Wallace Collection, 2003 the painting is interpreted thus: Dutch paintings of the 17th century often had a moral. In this small picture, the little lacemaker serves as an example of good behaviour for a Dutch housewife of the time. The mussels lying at her feet are a symbol of her virtue as both stay in their shell. Her discarded shoes suggest she cannot leave the house without them and so avoids temptation. The broom beside her emphasises her spotless house. On her richly embroidered cap is an emblem of doves and clasped hands that tell us she is a loving wife. Lace-making was also a sign of the virtuous housewife, since it was a long, laborious process allowing the maker little freedom from domesticity. ! I hope the Wallace Collection will forgive such a long quote but I felt I must defend the little lacemaker and advertise a wonderful Art Gallery in London. They also have Frans Hals, The Laughing Cavalier, with his wonderful needlepoint cuffs and collar. Jean Eke in Sussex , England, on a chilly , wet windy late evening. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] re Casper Netscher's Lacemaker
I am currently reading a book about Rembrandt called Rembrandt's Eyes by Simon Schama. In it there is a painting by Caravaggio - The Death of the Virgin - painted in 1605-06. The group of monks that commissioned this painting refused it because Mary has bare feet in it, and the connotation of bare feet was felt inappropriate - even though the Carmelites who commissioned it were an order who went around in bare feet at that time. So perhaps the bare feet of the woman in the painting we are discussing could have had both meanings and therefore open to interpretation. Nita in Calgary on a cool windy day. On 17-Sep-11, at 4:03 PM, Jean Eke wrote: In the booklet, 'Highlights, The Wallace Collection' published by The Trustees of the Wallace Collection, 2003 the painting is interpreted thus: Dutch paintings of the 17th century often had a moral. In this small picture, the little lacemaker serves as an example of good behaviour for a Dutch housewife of the time. The mussels lying at her feet are a symbol of her virtue as both stay in their shell. Her discarded shoes suggest she cannot leave the house without them and so avoids temptation. The broom beside her emphasises her spotless house. On her richly embroidered cap is an emblem of doves and clasped hands that tell us she is a loving wife. Lace-making was also a sign of the virtuous housewife, since it was a long, laborious process allowing the maker little freedom from domesticity. ! I hope the Wallace Collection will forgive such a long quote but I felt I must defend the little lacemaker and advertise a wonderful Art Gallery in London. They also have Frans Hals, The Laughing Cavalier, with his wonderful needlepoint cuffs and collar. Jean Eke in Sussex , England, on a chilly , wet windy late evening. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] re Casper Netscher's Lacemaker
Thank you, Jean! I have heard the story of shoes off = immorality so many times and always doubted it - it's good to know that at least one person - the curator of the Wallace Collection - holds a different opinion! Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) In the booklet, 'Highlights, The Wallace Collection' published by The Trustees of the Wallace Collection, 2003 the painting is interpreted thus: Dutch paintings of the 17th century often had a moral. In this small picture, the little lacemaker serves as an example of good behaviour for a Dutch housewife of the time. The mussels lying at her feet are a symbol of her virtue as both stay in their shell. Her discarded shoes suggest she cannot leave the house without them and so avoids temptation. The broom beside her emphasises her spotless house. On her richly embroidered cap is an emblem of doves and clasped hands that tell us she is a loving wife. Lace-making was also a sign of the virtuous housewife, since it was a long, laborious process allowing the maker little freedom from domesticity. ! I hope the Wallace Collection will forgive such a long quote but I felt I must defend the little lacemaker and advertise a wonderful Art Gallery in London. They also have Frans Hals, The Laughing Cavalier, with his wonderful needlepoint cuffs and collar. Jean Eke in Sussex , England, on a chilly , wet windy late evening. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
