[lace] making ace with my granddaughter
Lynn wrote: Here in Pennsylvania a childline check costs $20. I'm sure all of us would pass it. The way to find out is to ask. In the UK anyone working with children or vulnerable adults could need to have a CRB (Criminal Records Bureau) certificate, which involves checking the Police National Computer, Independent Safeguarding Authority and others. You can't just apply for one yourself because you think you might need one - there has to be an organisation that has asked for it. If you're self-employed there are registered organisations that can handle the application for you. You'd probably get away without one for the odd visit to a school or if self-employed, but I'd want one as a safeguard. Not that I want to go into a primary or any other school to teach lace (or anything else for that matter) - 25 years of teaching 15 and 16 year-olds was enough, but I'm glad others are prepared to do so. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Re: educating and gaining new lacemakers (was: training the DH)
And, of course, everyone is welcome whether they are members or not.The next meeting is on the 14th January and is at St John's Church Hall Clough Road Hull.The workshop this time is 'An Easter Egg made with 2 halves of a walnut shell' with Jo Firth. The Society had its 25th anniversary a couple of years ago and we organised all sorts of publicity.As Chairman, I went onto the local radio, Radio Humberside and did a live interview in the studio.We also had virtually a full page coverage with our local paper, Hull Daily Mail, with photos and details of who to contact. And we always put up posters and advertise our meetings in the local papers. So it is not for the want of trying. I, with others, have demonstrated at all sorts of events in the area over the years.Even, on one occasion, I was in fancy dress making lace in a tent in May, but it was so cold that I had my jeans and a sweather on underneath the costume. Unfortunately my daughters and, at the moment, granddaughters are either too young or not interested in lace. I keep suggesting it, but they have not yet taken the bait. Maureen E Yorks UK where it is currently blowing a gale and raining heavily. Sue says:- I agree with you there! In our Lace Group in Hull, East Yorkshire, we have people who sit and knit, embroider, tat, crochet, bead, make bobbin lace, needle lace etc, etc. We're known as Wolds Lacemakers and frequently hold workshops on all sorts of things (from embroidery to painting, gardening and all points in between!!) We've also got a website (just to prove we're in the 21st century (I think, but I'mm the webmaster) (www.woldslacemakers.co.uk). Unfortunately we don't have any male members maybe we frighten them off!! LOL, however we do have some 'grandchildren' as members!! Every meeting we have a table where people show what they've made since the last meeting, and it is usually covered in all sorts of things, from lace through knitting to cards!! Do other groups do this as well?? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Re: educating and gaining new lacemakers (was: training the DH)
Robin, you are exactly right! I teach sock classes at my LYS, and wear my knitted lace socks to inspire people. Now the word is out that I make bobbin lace, and the shop owner has asked me to demo. So there is a connection! Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA. USA robinl...@socal.rr.com wrote: lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: Going to New York is 3 hours by train, but again, you have to drag all the stuff around as you walk around, no lockers anywhere after 9/11, and I make sure to travel as lightly as possible, editing the contents of my handbag, even, so instead I bring socks to knit. Sad, but true.- So knit lace-pattern socks (or other small lace accessories, like scarves)! Who says lace always has to mean bobbin lace? Getting the lace mentality out there is what's important, not which type of lace you get them started with. Knitting has become so popular that lace knitting is a good transition to other laces. While most (by no means all) lace groups seem to be mostly BL makers, most of the groups seem to have members who do other types of lace (instead of, or in addition to, BL), especially tatting and knitting/crochet. Get those other lacemakers into a group and *then* work on getting them interested in your favorite lace (I address this to all lacemakers, whatever their favorite lace is). Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Re: educating and gaining new lacemakers (was: training the DH)
Also with current fashion having lots of lace about and the winter special items also was quite lacy, a quick knitted pretty lace scarf might be just the thing to show them and get them going. As you say bobbin lace could come after, just make sure its in the conversations, on display ect. Sue T In Wild and windy Dorset UK where the 70mph winds and rain are just easing after a 12 hour storm. Robin, you are exactly right! I teach sock classes at my LYS, and wear my knitted lace socks to inspire people. Now the word is out that I make bobbin lace, and the shop owner has asked me to demo. So there is a connection! Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA. USA robinl...@socal.rr.com wrote: lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: Who says lace always has to mean bobbin lace? Getting the lace mentality out there is what's important, not which type of lace you get them started with. Knitting has become so popular that lace knitting is a good transition to other laces. While most (by no means all) lace groups seem to be mostly BL makers, most of the groups seem to have members who do other types of lace (instead of, or in addition to, BL), especially tatting and knitting/crochet. Get those other lacemakers into a group and *then* work on getting them interested in your favorite lace (I address this to all lacemakers, whatever their favorite lace is). Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms
Alice in Oregon wrote: We meet in a smallish room where each person has only a little table/floor space. We don't have room for a sharing table, Dear Alice et al, Speaking of meeting rooms, how does one go about finding one? I was put off by my church, which evidently charges $75 for the use of a room for a meeting, which is certainly very high. Is it a matter of canvassing the churches in the area? Have people had luck with other venues, such as libraries? This is Lancaster, Pennsylvania, so there are no Women's Institutes, or, as far as I know, community centers. My perfect venue is located near the 'city' of Lancaster, so it is centrally located, with access to the kitchen where people could bring a bit of supper, or get water, as I envision an early evening of lacemaking, to accommodate people coming directly from work. A get together of lacemakers. There is no place in my home for such a thing as there is no dining room, and the light in the small living room is abysmal. So the two questions are: 1 What venues have you found to be successful or not successful; and 2 How did you go about finding it? Lyn in Lancaster Pennsylvania, where it is properly cold, 27F -2.5C, bright sun. Now, this is January. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms
On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:05 AM, lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: Speaking of meeting rooms, how does one go about finding one? I was put off by my church, which evidently charges $75 for the use of a room for a meeting, which is certainly very high. Is it a matter of canvassing the churches in the area? Have people had luck with other venues, such as libraries? Usually a member of a church can get access to meeting rooms. We had that situation for many years, but population changes and a retiring minister closed the church where we met. We had access to a park facility but the room was really too small if we (weavers guild) wanted to have any kind of workshop. IIRC that was also free with the understanding we'd demonstrate when asked. We now are meeting at the Jacoby Arts Center. That's a long story. The owners' family donated the furniture store to the local arts council. Several of our guild members are also members of the art center. They still need lots of funding to get all the space opened but we meet in a class room. There's water available. If we need stoves we have to bring in hot plates or microwaves but we're allowed. I don't know what will happen when the place is finally running at capacity. So far, so good--they had a bus tour on the day of our Christmas potluck and gift auction so we demonstrated weaving and tablet weaving and needle felting and a good time was had by all. I'd check with senior centers, Dallas guild meets at a senior residence facility, apartment complexes have meeting centers--tho I think most of those cost and you need a resident to gain access. HTH - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms
One local lace group here in Ottawa rents a room in a Senior's Residence. We used to meet at an old Town Hall but it became too small as the group grew. The current location is still not ideal, but is bigger. One of the reasons it isn't ideal is because there is an extensive library which has to be carried in and out (now only part each time). The other local lace group is much smaller and we meet in people's houses. A local knitting group I've just joined meet at a downtown coffee shop (Bridgehead for example), at about 5:30 so those who work downtown can go straight from work and those of us (me) who are retired can go downtown and park for free after 5:30. When I was teaching I used a local community centre - the fee was very reasonable and there was enough room for me and the students. But the fee went up, and up, and up and at some point I was teaching for nothing. So I rearranged my basement and it is now set up for the students and the lace group meeting from time to time. Malvary in Ottawa where it is a lovely bright sunny day and only -19c. But there is no wind. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] meeting places
Lynn, I tried to reply to you and get approved but it did not go through so resorting to answering on Arachne. My Lace Guild meets at a library and we pay by the hour for the room. This is a central location for most of our members as they come from a very large area - some driving over an hour to get to the meeting. We used to meet in a church - yes, paying a fee. Try asking local banks if they have a meeting room. If a member of the bank, you might get it for free. Some village halls have meeting rooms for rent. Local restaurants sometimes will allow groups to hold meetings in a separate room as long as you pay or order food. Jane O'Connor jjo...@sbcglobal.net New Lenox, IL USA Good friends are like stars, You don't always see them, but they are always there. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Skips a Generation
I think little girls often overlook what their mothers do and want to copy their grandmothers. My young daughter says it skips a generation, from gifts to overt kindness, etc. I think it is similar to one not being recognized for their gift in one's hometown, but may well be, nationally or internationally. It probably falls into the category of taking things for granted, since it is so close. We also typically get something more unconditional from grandmothers. My mother wasn't interested in much of what my grandmother did (who basically did and excelled in everything). After my grandmother passed, she now wishes she had learned more though she was taught the basics, and I think it was intensified with my keen interest in all things needlework, textile, and design. My mother didn't teach me anything other than to thread the sewing machine, and how to properly set a sleeve. If things are too easy, we don't appreciate them as much. This is similar to my not sharing books anymore, as they never come back. It isn't that they really loved the book so kept it, but rather that they didn't value it enough...not enough to even return it. If someone really values something, they will put effort into obtaining it, and investing (time, money, energy) is a true indicator. That took me a long time to learn so rather, I give the information on how to obtain it, and leave it up to them (which is harder with lace books). That brings up the subject of propagating interest in lacemaking. Look at how many generations let it fall to the wayside and only when it is in threat of becoming almost extinct, do some rally to perpetuate it's survival. For instance, knitting was often seen with condescension in the latter part of last century, but a trauma in the US began a resurgence in interest to perpetuate things that could be considered nesting, valued tradition, taking things into your own hands and making something of it, etc. (though some of it was because celebrities were doing it), and women then embraced what their grandmothers did. I think a lack of textile selections for sewing, also pressed people to knitting, bobbin lace, and other media. The perk of lacemaking is, once you have the tools, the actual cost of thread (and for some, patterns) is low compared to escalated prices in other things (like a knitted sweater costs going from about $30 to about $300). I think that this will help lacemaking endure. We do run the risk of it taking more time, so people who want a quick fix may fall to the wayside (with our push-button society), but for those who want a lot of satisfaction with minimal financial investment, it is hard to beat. So perhaps we don't endear the younger generation to lacemaking by making it too easy and spoon feeding them, and giving them time and tools. Perhaps it is the antithesis of that - that it is hard, and we wait until they ask us. I have found in teaching over the years, that you get a very different pupil when someone asks, vs. quickly volunteering. I wait until they ask, consider it while they wait, and then tell them if they really want to learn, I will teach them, but first they have to go get the supplies and then let me know that they are ready. If they have put time into ferreting out what they need, they are more likely to stay with it as they have invested in many ways. It comes from GRAND women sharing their expertise, and they don't have to be grandmothers, or even mothers, just sharers. Some write books instead, so the information goes further. One can always learn from that, any time, any place, anyone. Best, Susan Reishus www.SusanReishusDesigns.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
RE: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms
Lyn, would it be of any use to ask local schools? Some of our local schools seem to have adult activities going on in the evenings - exercise classes and such. Margery. margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Herts, UK -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of lynrbai...@desupernet.net Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:05 PM To: lacel...@frontier.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms Alice in Oregon wrote: We meet in a smallish room where each person has only a little table/floor space. We don't have room for a sharing table, Dear Alice et al, Speaking of meeting rooms, how does one go about finding one? I was put off by my church, which evidently charges $75 for the use of a room for a meeting, which is certainly very high. Is it a matter of canvassing the churches in the area? Have people had luck with other venues, such as libraries? This is Lancaster, Pennsylvania, so there are no Women's Institutes, or, as far as I know, community centers. My perfect venue is located near the 'city' of Lancaster, so it is centrally located, with access to the kitchen where people could bring a bit of supper, or get water, as I envision an early evening of lacemaking, to accommodate people coming directly from work. A get together of lacemakers. There is no place in my home for such a thing as there is no dining room, and the light in the small living room is abysmal. So the two questions are: 1 What venues have you found to be successful or not successful; and 2 How did you go about finding it? Lyn in Lancaster Pennsylvania, where it is properly cold, 27F -2.5C, bright sun. Now, this is January. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] meeting places
Dear Jane et al, thanks for your ideas, especially the restaurant idea, which I hadn't thought of before. There are a number of family style restaurants in the area that might be willing. I have responded privately to all emails concerning this topic, and I especially liked the store idea, which was a new one. In Lancaster that would probably mean a quilting store, as this is quilt country, but who knows. The idea of schools put me in mind of our local 'university' (state teacher's college) that might be willing. Schools here are not overly community minded, although clearly they are in Britain. I have a very fond memory of going to a Lace Day in March 2006 at a public school somewhere in The Weald, an hour train ride south of London. I doubt there would be such a thing here in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. For anyone interested, if you get some mumbo jumbo when you're trying to email me, just ignore it. I deal with the Arachne posts on my 'suspect' email, hence the automated response, but I read all my Arachne mail there, or responses from a thread that's going on, right after I read my regular email, so unless you're expecting a response and don't get it for a day or two, don't bother to do whatever has to be done to contact me, because I'm checking that list as well. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where we're having a cold snap down to the usual temperatures for this time of year. 27F -5.5C, sunny and windy. But I've broken TWO threads this morning, and I'm not happy. Jane O'Connor wrote: Lynn, I tried to reply to you and get approved but it did not go through so resorting to answering on Arachne. My Lace Guild meets at a library and we pay by the hour for the room. This is a central location for most of our members as they come from a very large area - some driving over an hour to get to the meeting. We used to meet in a church - yes, paying a fee. Try asking local banks if they have a meeting room. If a member of the bank, you might get it for free. Some village halls have meeting rooms for rent. Local restaurants sometimes will allow groups to hold meetings in a separate room as long as you pay or order food. Jane O'Connor jjo...@sbcglobal.net New Lenox, IL USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms
I belong to two lace groups, both of which meet at local libraries. LACE have a meeting room that we have to pay rent for which is covered by our dues. I believe we are now up to 40 members including one man. My other group, Land of Lincoln Lacemakers, have a free room at another library on the condition we do not exceed 10 people. If we did, we would have to rent the large room for $40 a meeting. We refer people to LACE for that reason, and we like to keep it small. Some members of LACE also meet at other times of the month in a room at a bank which I understand they get free. Do you have a park district that might have a room available? Sometimes health centers have rooms available for the local community. All of the rooms we use are just for meetings, no sales allowed. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms
Hi Everybody: Speaking of meeting rooms, how does one go about finding one? Some groups I belong to have found free or close-to-free meeting rooms in draughty church basements, windswept parish halls, and one community centre pre-school (the meetings are in the evening so the room is free, but the teeny tiny chairs are a pain). The problem is - are you just meeting, or do you want to actually make lace? If you do want to actually make lace, you want light and some warmth and regular-height tables chairs. For this you might have to pay. I do belong to one group (not lacemaking) that meets in a fantastic church meeting room, but you not only have to have a member who is a member of the church - you *also* have to pay, and it's not cheap. Group members pay $4 per meeting at the door to defray the expense. You could also have a yearly fee of, say, $20 per person, to pay for the room. Where I live we used to be able to fundraise through raffles, but that's illegal now unless all the money raised is donated to a public charity, but it might not be illegal where you live. One group has regular meetings in the activity room in a senior's long-term care facility - with the requirement that the seniors be able to drop in as they wish. Still, that one's free. Some large apartment buildings have party rooms that anyone living in the building can book. I once went to a workshop that was given in an vacant apartment in a senior's centre, but of course you can't rely on that for regular availability. I suppose the answer is that we need to think creatively, and ask *everybody*. If your group doesn't know of a room, maybe somebody your group knows does. Hope this helps. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) I was put off by my church, which evidently charges $75 for the use of a room for a meeting, which is certainly very high. Is it a matter of canvassing the churches in the area? Have people had luck with other venues, such as libraries? This is Lancaster, Pennsylvania, so there are no Women's Institutes, or, as far as I know, community centers. My perfect venue is located near the 'city' of Lancaster, so it is centrally located, with access to the kitchen where people could bring a bit of supper, or get water, as I envision an early evening of lacemaking, to accommodate people coming directly from work. A get together of lacemakers. There is no place in my home for such a thing as there is no dining room, and the light in the small living room is abysmal. So the two questions are: 1 What venues have you found to be successful or not successful; and 2 How did you go about finding it? Lyn in Lancaster Pennsylvania, where it is properly cold, 27F -2.5C, bright sun. Now, this is January. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] meeting places
Hi Arachnids, One of my classes meets at a meeting room at the Local Council offices, another in a room above a coffee shop. The latter is their overflow room for when they are very busy in the summer holidays (we do not meet during the summer holidays. The council room is relatively reasonably priced for local clubs and organisations, while the coffee shop initially offered to let the room (again reasonably priced) when we had to move out of the previous premises very suddenly - that was 5 years ago. A couple of small groups -up to 8 people- meet in my front room. Two other lace groups -and one I used to frequent- meet in church meeting rooms which are more expensive; others I know meet in community centres, a sports centre, a school and a W.I. meeting room. Where rent has to be paid that comes out of the subscriptions. Scout/guide huts might be another possibility -could even win some young lace makers- :-). Working men's clubs, British legion rooms, and that kind of place might be able to help . Good luck in finding a place. Joepie, East Sussex, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms
How to find a meeting place. that's an ongoing problem. I belong to four lace groups and a sewing group. Over the years we have faced this problem several times. The largest lace group has met in a classroom in a fabric store and in a community center since I joined it. I think they met in a church before the fabric store. Lace Days had to be held in various churches while meeting in the fabric store. There was a rental fee for the room and the churches. Usually we had a member who belonged to the church used. The fabric store kicked us out when they decided they wanted the space themselves. We were fortunate that a member was a volunteer at the community center and got us on the schedule. There is supposed to be a small rental fee, but they never ask us for it. At the end of each year, we give them a lump sum donation check, as generous as possible. We do pay a rental fee for the Lace Day use of the whole building. The second group started out in a fabric store, moved to a senior retirement center (one member lived there), and then to a corner of a local weaving store. When the store was closed, we got approved at a local bank for their Community Room as a non-profit group... a large room with no fee. The only rules are no food, and pick up dropped pins. The 'no fee' was great since this group has no treasury. (We had to fill out an application, explain about our group, and be vetted by the bank president. It was worth it.) Two other lace groups meet in private homes, sometimes rotating the location. One met in a local bookstore/deli for a while. These two groups are smaller. My sewing group has met in fabric stores, retirement centers and churches. Church use fees vary a lot. You have to inquire at each church. My own church has a different fee schedule for non-profit groups, or church members. Also, different rooms have different rates. I use my church once a year when the bank's room is taken over by the auditors. If all the members of a group are willing to pay for food, some restaurants have separate rooms available. A very small group might be able to use a fast food restaurant. I used to tutor a lady in a fast food place. We could stay as long as we wished because we bought our lunch there each time. Get all members involved... looking wherever they go. Ask people if they know of a space. You never know where or who might give you the lead to a meeting place. Alice in Oregon .. where the POD container arrived and we've started moving boxes and things into it. I don't look forward to unloading it after the new kitchen is done. G And there's lots more to pack up. It will be two months of mass confusion. Thankfully, the living room is not involved, and that's where my lace things are. - Original Message - From: lynrbai...@desupernet.net Speaking of meeting rooms, how does one go about finding one? I was put off by my church, which evidently charges $75 for the use of a room for a meeting, which is certainly very high. Is it a matter of canvassing the churches in the area? Have people had luck with other venues, such as libraries? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms
Lynn, A couple of coffee shops that I have seen here in the UK have separate lounge rooms which they are happy to let people borrow in quite times for meetings - one has business meetings in them, another lets a local teen book group meet. I used to meet with a local coaching group at one of the hotels in their coffee lounge. They didn't mind us using it in the evening so long as we order a few coffees and soft drinks. Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com My chronicle of my bobbins can be found at my website: http://thelacebee.weebly.com/ From: lynrbai...@desupernet.net lynrbai...@desupernet.net To: lacel...@frontier.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012, 14:05 Subject: Re: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms Alice in Oregon wrote: We meet in a smallish room where each person has only a little table/floor space. We don't have room for a sharing table, Dear Alice et al, Speaking of meeting rooms, how does one go about finding one? I was put off by my church, which evidently charges $75 for the use of a room for a meeting, which is certainly very high. Is it a matter of canvassing the churches in the area? Have people had luck with other venues, such as libraries? This is Lancaster, Pennsylvania, so there are no Women's Institutes, or, as far as I know, community centers. My perfect venue is located near the 'city' of Lancaster, so it is centrally located, with access to the kitchen where people could bring a bit of supper, or get water, as I envision an early evening of lacemaking, to accommodate people coming directly from work. A get together of lacemakers. There is no place in my home for such a thing as there is no dining room, and the light in the small living room is abysmal. So the two questions are: 1 What venues have you found to be successful or not successful; and 2 How did you go about finding it? Lyn in Lancaster Pennsylvania, where it is properly cold, 27F -2.5C, bright sun. Now, this is January. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Lace Guild Advent Calendar Competition Results
Happy New Year! We've pulled the winners of the Advent Calendar competition out of the electronic hat and they are Suzanne Hardy Renaudin Edwige The answers are now on the Lace Guild website. We've also mounted a list of credits for the lace in the calendar . Thank you to everyone who took part and a special thank you to Sue Turnbull for the picture and pattern on 2nd December and Ilske Thomsen for the picture and pattern on 7th December. Also thank you to Kathy Hensel, Ilske Thomsen and Louise for the pictures on 1st, 10th, 16th and 14th December. If you would like to send a contribution for the next Advent calendar we'd love to hear from you. Jean and David in wet and very windy Glasgow Lace Guild website: http://www.laceguild.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms
I teach at a university and was able for several years to use for free a classroom with large windows and lots of light. We also had use to a kitchen and a large mezzanine where we could sit and chat. Our problem was parking until a local church let us park all day for a very reasonable fee. The classroom was never large enough for all the guild, just those of us who wanted to get together an extra day a month to make lace together. Too bad, if it had been larger, it would have been ideal. oh well ... we do what we can with what we've got. Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms
To Lyn, who asked about how and where to find meeting space... It usually pays to have connections when you're looking for a place to meet. Loyal church members are sometimes waived the sextant fee, particularly if they also volunteer for church projects. The local public libraries in our area all have meeting rooms and one of the groups I've attended meets at one of the libraries on a regular basis. Finding a regular slot on a calendar for a new group may take time and patience, particularly if you want prime time hours as you have described. Another option may be one of your local non-profits. When I was president of our local guild, I also served on the board of a non-profit. I persuaded the director to let us use their boardroom each week, providing each member made a contribution to the organization. The space wasn't being used during the hours we wanted it, and they got more income in the process. It was a win-win situation. I had to take responsibility for keeping a key to open and lock up the building, but it was a good arrangement. Once you're able to gather a group of people, you may find that one of them has a home large enough to accommodate the group. Our LYS (local yarn shop) has not only asked me to demo at the shop, but has also encouraged me to have group meetings there. But I also work at the shop as a knitting teacher, so that's my connection. Keep exploring... you'll find something! Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA. USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
RE: [lace] lace groups and meeting rooms
Hi All, The local Campbelltown Group meets twice a month on a Saturday in the Country Womens Association rooms for a modest fee. I am sure there is a similar type organization in other countries. One son in law's grandmother, a quilter of renown from southern Indiana in her time, was a member of the group that ran a National Competition for quilt blocks for the Bicentennial celebrations in the States. Mary Carey Campbelltown, NSW, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Advent calendar quiz winners
Thank you to all who entered. All the correct entries went into the electronic hat and the winers are: KFHS bookshop voucher - Lesley Powell Threads for Lace book - Sandra Clarke Lesley and Sandra would you please contact me off-list. Lesley, it's a virtual voucher, I just need to explain it to you, Sandra I need your postal address. The question which quite a lot of people, lacemakers as well as non-lacemakers, got wrong was the number of pairs of bobbins required for the spiral tree ornament. It was 13 + 3 or 16 pairs. Several others got the Somerset wassailing date wrong. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Re: lace groups and meeting rooms
When I last spoke to my local library, rooms are free if you aren't charging for profit, such as a class taught with fees, etc. Fees are fairly reasonable if the group has small numbers and there is profit. In my state, they have many new libraries with many room options, and though they are often governed by the county, some vary the rules a bit. I don't know the status on city halls, but think that would be a consideration. Also. communities offer educational classes for reasonable fees (or they are listed as meeting regularly), which could be set up as a monthly thing (some time before the printing takes place), and it would also put the subject out there for new people that don't know that lace groups or classes are available. The host/ess has to live in the community/town, of course. Some yarn shops sell threads and have class space. They might be open to letting you use space, as they could sell thread to you, and since many bobbin and needlelacers do other forms of needlework, it could potentially create more sales. I think with the economy, some LYS's are interested in more traffic and would order things for you, possibly with a deposit or as a group purchase. Since lace is of growing interest, it might also be a place for someone to offer teaching classes there, and they send out emails promoting their offerings...again, more exposure. There are loads of halls that are empty...you just need to find someone with a key that is willing to help, or have a partner or friend who is affiliated with the organization. I would even consider meeting for dinner in a restaurant with a reserved room and doing lace afterwards. Some restaurants have areas that are separate or can be partitioned off. Those who don't want to pay for dinner, can perhaps join a bit later for a cup of tea and/or dessert before the lacemaking breaks out. (Of course you have to have a tidy place and things covered when food has previously been about). Best, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Meeting rooms
Dear Lynn from Lancaster, PA You asked what venues have lace groups found and how to go about finding it? (Jan 3, 2011) Just this last October our group found a wonderful new location. I had been expressing to the librariain where our meetings were being held that the small conference room that they had moved us into was not going to allow us to grow. Previously, the library had given us a list of locations to check out. Unfortuantely most of these locations (churches schools) required $75 to $200 per meeting. This was completely out of our groups financial abilites. We had 14 members show for a room that we were told held a maximum of 12. After speaking to the contact person at the library again about our needs, she called the local Center for the Arts where she knew the director to inquire if they had space. Well, turns out that the director was interested in lace and willingly gave us meeting space with lots of natural light and space to grow members. I willl donate a couple of lace demonstartions a year on his calendar to help repay him for his generous donation of space. So be creative.is there a Arts Center, a school of fiber arts, or a school of art in your area? Maybe your local schools have art classes for adults and you could provide a class or two for meeting space? Just a couple of ideas to try? Chris Brill-Packard - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Re: lace groups and meeting rooms
lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: Speaking of meeting rooms, how does one go about finding one? Churches vary; they don't all charge exhorbitant fees. One of the groups I belong to meets weekly in a church basement. A member of the group is a member of that church and they have it for free. They make a donation at the end of each year, but it's never been something the pastor asked for. The group used to meet monthly in a different church for an annual fee of USD 50. Many towns (or neighborhoods in cities) have community centers, or rooms in the public buildings. Citizens of those towns/neighborhoods are allowed to use them for free. The group that meets in a church basement uses the Borough building for workshops. The police department and city offices are in the building. A sewing group I belong to meets at a community room at the local pound (city-run animal shelter), but they're considering moving to a community room at a fire station. A weaving group I belong to meets at a local college, in a classroom; another lace group meets in another church. I don't know what financial arrangements either of them have. They are both large-ish groups so they may be able to pay. I also belong to a small lace group (9 members, usually 4-6 come to any meeting) that meets at members' homes. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
