[lace] Thread problem

2012-01-07 Thread Jean Nathan

Betty Ann wrote:
You can goodle Magic Thread and probably get lots of information about 
using that technique.


Or you could buy the 48 page book by Christine Springett 'Magic Threads'  at 
GBP 5.00 plus postage, which explains it very clearly. They take payment by 
Paypal, which avoids problems paying in other currencies.


http://www.cdspringett.co.uk/acatalog/Lacemaking_Books.html

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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[lace] threads fraying

2012-01-07 Thread Jo
Did you observe the twist in the individual threads? Sometimes your bobbins
tend to roll on the pillow mainly in one direction. 50% chance that undoes
the twist in the thread and they loose integrety. Retwist until the thread
starts to curl, gently slide the overkill of twist into the colthwork and
your threads are safe again.

 I had a problem with the passive 
 threads.  By the time I got to the end of the piece they were 
 seriously fraying.  I was using Brok cotton...I think size 
 40.

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Re: [lace] Thread problem

2012-01-07 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Is there a size 40 Brok?  If so I haven't seen it.

I think that your problem is possibly a combination of the things already 
suggested; excessive wear on the thread from making lots of sewings and the 
bobbins rolling to loosen the twist.  Use a magic thread and keep watching for 
any leash that looks as though it is untwisting.  If it is only the worker 
threads which are suffering you could try running those threads through beeswax 
as you wind the bobbins - a bit tedious to do for all the pairs though.

Brenda

On 7 Jan 2012, at 05:14, Witchy Woman wrote:

 I was using Brok cotton...I think
 size 40.  

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Thread problem

2012-01-07 Thread Jacquie Tinch
As Peg's teacher for the Milanese class I'd like to say a couple of things. 

I suspect the threads weren't 'wearing out', just untwisting. This was one of 
the things I told the class to watch out for (and if they saw it happening to 
retwist any affected threads), but I was giving out a lot of information at 
Ithaca and not all of it finds a permanent home in every brain. 

When doing the sewings I showed the class how to use the hook so the thread is 
pushed through the sewing, as distinct from pulled, so the 'stem' of the 
crochet hook rather than the hook itself is pushing on the thread. This 
minimises damage. I also showed them that that they shouldn't try to force the 
thread in any way as this probably means that they have either split the thread 
or caught the hook on part of the made lace. The loop should 'pop' through the 
sewing with minimum resistance. 

The other important technique I demonstrated was how, at least until they were 
proficient and confident doing sewings, to make the sewing onto a loop of the 
thread several inches from the finish of the lace. This has several advantages 
all of which stress the thread as little as possible. 

It allows you to hold the thread tight, balancing the pull against the hook. At 
the same time, once it has 'popped' through the sewing you have a loop of 
thread to pull through rather than needing to pull against the thread at the 
end of the lace as you drag enough through to make the loop for the other 
bobbin to pass through. 

If you fail to achieve the sewing first (or second, third) try, each try 
will almost certainly be on a different bit of thread.  Finally, in the worst 
case scenario, if you do break the thread it will have broken several inches 
from the lace so the tail is long enough to knot onto and still do the sewing. 

Regarding magic threads. Yes, I do use them when I know the sewing is going to 
be difficult either because of its position or the thread being used, but in 
the lace Peg is talking about she was doing top sewings in every one of 14 to 
16 adjacent bars along a previously made edge. 

While it is perfectly possible to put those magic threads in place as the work 
progresses it is just one more thing to remember to do every row, near the 
start of the design, and just as the first Milanese braid is being started.  

Having got the loops in place they are then making a bump under the cover cloth 
and bobbins as the homeward bound braid is worked. Even with the magic thread 
colour rotation as taught by Springett's, I have found that many students find 
that many magic threads, so close together, more difficult to deal with than 
learning how to do sewings. 

It sounds as if Peg's problem was definitely with the weak threads rather than 
having problems with getting the hook into place, so if this had occured while 
we were still in class together I would have firstly reminded her to twist all 
the threads, (apart from returning the thread to its proper strength, it means 
the hook is more likely to engage with all the plys) and if she was still 
having problems with the thread, suggested that she used a lazy susan to do the 
sewings. 

Best wishes
Jacquie in Lincolnshire  
Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Jan 2012, at 05:14, Witchy Woman wytchy...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 When I finished the Isis Heart piece I started during my Milanese class in
 Ithaca I had a problem with the passive threads.  By the time I got to the end
 of the piece they were seriously fraying.  I was using Brok cotton...I think
 size 40.  This made a smooth and invisible join pretty much impossible.  3
 threads were so fragile they broke when I did the sewing...pulling it
 gently through the loop with a fine crochet hook was enough to make it break. 
 And I made sure the thread was fully around the hook before I pulled.
 
 I've
 had problems before with threads fraying by the time I get to the end of a
 piece.  On these pieces I had a combination of cotton passives and metallic
 passives and weavers.  I had assumed the fraying was because the metallics are
 a 
 bit abrasive and wore away the cotton threads as I tensioned them.  But the
 Isis 
 Heart piece was all one type of thread, and the thread was fairly new.
 Am I doing something wrong or is this a common problem?
 
 Peg
 in Fairview Park
 OH where it was a spring-like 50F today.   The birds are so 
 confused...they
 were singing like it's Spring.
 
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[lace] Thread problem

2012-01-07 Thread Jane Partridge
Just a couple of thoughts, especially if this is happening all the 
time...


Firstly, what is the climate like? It could be that the cotton threads 
are drying out and becoming brittle (more likely if it is happening with 
more than one reel of thread - though you do occasionally get a rogue 
reel that snaps no matter what) - in which case keeping the pillow in a 
moist area or with a damp tea towel over it when not in use might help.


Secondly, when you lengthen the leashes on your bobbins, Peg, do you 
turn the bobbin in your hand, with it straight in line with the leash, 
or do you hold the bobbin at right angles to the leash so that you are 
unwinding the bobbin and not the thread? I used to have this problem 
with threads falling apart until it was pointed out to me what I was 
doing.


Another cause could be that the heads and necks on your bobbins aren't 
perfectly smooth, causing the thread to wear as it comes off the bobbin?


In message 1325913249.2003.yahoomai...@web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, 
Witchy Woman wytchy...@sbcglobal.net writes

When I finished the Isis Heart piece I started during my Milanese class in
Ithaca I had a problem with the passive threads.  By the time I got to the end
of the piece they were seriously fraying.  I was using Brok cotton...I think
size 40. 


--
Jane Partridge

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Re: [lace] Thread problem

2012-01-07 Thread Witchy Woman
Oops...sorry...I wrote that late last night.  The size was Brok 30.  It was a
new spool and I keep them in a sealed polypropelyne container and wrapped in
acid free tissue.

There weren't any sewings on this piece, but the twist did
loosen as I was 
working.  I tried to re-twist when I saw them loosen. 
Just got Springett's MAGIC THREADS book at Ithaca...haven't read all the way
through it yet.  I've used the technique when I made one of the ornaments from
her Christmas books.  I didn't think to set up the threads for the class
piece...wanted to jump right in and get started working.

I like the beeswax
idea for the passives.  Since I do tape laces right now, it 
wouldn't be all
that tedious.  I've got a chunk around here somewhere.

Thanks.

Peg
in sunny
Fairview Park OH 





From: Brenda
Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com
To: Witchy Woman
wytchy...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sat, January 7, 2012
3:53:44 AM
Subject: Re: [lace] Thread problem

Is there a size 40 Brok?  If so
I haven't seen it.

I think that your problem is possibly a combination of the
things already 
suggested; excessive wear on the thread from making lots of
sewings and the 
bobbins rolling to loosen the twist.  Use a magic thread and
keep watching for 
any leash that looks as though it is untwisting.  If it is
only the worker 
threads which are suffering you could try running those
threads through beeswax 
as you wind the bobbins - a bit tedious to do for all
the pairs though.

Brenda

On 7 Jan 2012, at 05:14, Witchy Woman wrote:

 I
was using Brok cotton...I think
 size 40.  

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Thread problem

2012-01-07 Thread Witchy Woman


Your post is going to be printed out and put in my essential lace info
folder.  You're right about the information not finding a permanent home in my
brain...there was so much to learn and remember.

I think you're right about
the threads untwisting as I worked.  I tried to 
retwist...when I could
remember.  Problem was some had worn down to 1 ply by the 
time I got to the
end.  I did use your sewing technique, but the thread was just 
too fragile.
As your Milanese student, I would like to say you are a great teacher and I
hope 
you come back to Ithaca soon.  I learned so much, but realize there is
also so 
much more to learn.

Peg
who should really be getting dressed and
going grocery shopping...but this is 
more fun.

From: Jacquie Tinch laceandb...@aol.com
To:
Witchy Woman wytchy...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: lace@arachne.com
lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sat, January 7, 2012 4:29:28 AM
Subject: Re: [lace]
Thread problem

As Peg's teacher for the Milanese class I'd like to say a
couple of things. 

I suspect the threads weren't 'wearing out', just
untwisting. This was one of 
the things I told the class to watch out for (and
if they saw it happening to 
retwist any affected threads), but I was giving
out a lot of information at 
Ithaca and not all of it finds a permanent home
in every brain. 


[snip]

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[lace] Re: Meeting Rooms

2012-01-07 Thread Susan Reishus
Aw shucks!  You don't want to meet in somebody's garage?  G

Best,
Susan
Reishus

What a load of responses!  Churches and libraries seem to head the
list,
but coffee shops, restaurants, community centers, schools, which made me
think
of our local state teacher’s college, art schools, quilting
shops, LYS,
(local yarn shop) town halls, virtually any place with a large
room...  Lyn

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[lace] Downloading Problems (Mac)

2012-01-07 Thread Susan Reishus
If you are on a Mac, you can have downloading problems if you are doing it
from Mozilla Firefox or other search engines.  Most problems are alleviated
with the newest update (version 9?), as Apple has said it is Firefox's problem
to fix, and probably the converse is true.

If your Mac isn't downloading
properly, then you need to do it from SAFARI.  That should solve problems
other than reader/player ones that Jean and David addressed.  


If this
isn't your problem, at least it will help Mac users to access more information
than they have been able to in the past, as they tend to assume it is just
something they have to accept, being on an Apple computer.

Best,
Susan
Reishus

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[lace] re: thread problem

2012-01-07 Thread Janice Blair
Were they wearing thin because of the threads coming untwisted or did they 
appear to be getting cut?  If the first query is the problem, then while making 
your lace you can  turn the bobbin a number of times on the pillow to retwist 
the threads.  You just have to keep an eye on the threads while you work.  

If it was the second query, then you should replace the worn threads as Bev 
said.  If the passives are the same type of thread as the worker, I run another 
thread from a pin alongside the worn thread, twisting them together and then do 
an exchange of pairs, cttc, with the workers and take them out to the side so 
that they are twisted along the sewing edge  and use the replenished bobbin as 
a 
worker.  That magic cttc works in many places so long as you tension correctly.
Janice

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Witchy Woman wytchy...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  By the time I got to the end
 of the piece they were seriously fraying.
.
 Am I doing something wrong or is this a common problem?
 Janice Blair
Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA
www.jblace.com
http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org

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[lace] LOKK free pattern

2012-01-07 Thread Whitham, Irene Steve
The free pattern on the LOKK website has me intriqued,

 

I have done a computer translation and it's not clear how to make this.

 

Is there anyone that has made this Halssieraad, that would be willing to
explain how it's done?

 

http://www.lokk.nl/

 

look under gratis patroon, it's a robe for a bead!

 

Irene Whitham

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Re: [lace] LOKK free pattern

2012-01-07 Thread J D Hammett

Hi Arachnids,

If you look under the pattern there is a short description in Dutch. It 
reads;-


DOWNLOAD THE PATTERN IN PDF FORMAT

Materials;-
1 round shoe lace 45 to 65 cm long
bead with large hole
worker (or weaver) pair in DMC fil a Dentelle 80 of 6xthe length of the shoe 
lace

10 to 20 pairs of passives, depending on the thickness of the shoe lace.
   Half of these should be thick thread i.e. Madeira Glamour; Decor 
(dubbled up); or Gold Rush.
   The othe half in thin threads such as ;Venne Creafil; Madeira 
Metallic; DMC Fil a Dentelle 80; Supertwist


METHOD;

Hang the bobbins in pairs on 1 pin. Pin the shoe lace in place with a strong 
pin -leave this pin as long as possible-. Pins are placed on the left only, 
about 0.5 cm (just under quarter inch) apart. Use strips of squared paper 
(maths paper) for pricking.


Work in whole stitch from left to right.  Keep the shoe lace on top of the 
work.


Lay the worker over the work to the left. Pin up between pair 1 (worker) and 
2 on (the left) and whole stitch again from left to right.


The pins are pushed down a.s.a.p. and the right hand pair is regularly 
pulled a little to the left.


Repeat until the desired length is worked. The push the bead onto the cord. 
Fasten the ends together, if required with a fastener (literally a small 
lock). (you could also use a hook  eye or a small button  loop, but it 
does not say that).



I hope that my little translation will help you.

Happy lace making,

Joepie in East Sussex, UK




From: Whitham, Irene  Steve

I have done a computer translation and it's not clear how to make this.

Is there anyone that has made this Halssieraad, that would be willing to
explain how it's done?

http://www.lokk.nl/

look under gratis patroon, it's a robe for a bead!

Irene Whitham

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[lace] Lace to see in Ireland, Summer 2012?

2012-01-07 Thread Jeriames
One of our precious Maine lacemakers and her husband are planning  a trip 
to Ireland in the Summer - not to cities, but along the southern coast  and 
up to Donnegal.  They own a large garden center and  also hope to go on 
garden tours and to the Ring of Kerry.  They  are working with a travel agent, 
but from experience I know that our Irish  lacemakers may have some special 
suggestions for places where lace is exhibited  and where special gardens are 
open to the public.  This is one of the  members we have that always 
volunteers to teach and demonstrate.
 
Please reply to me, and I'll forward to her.
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource  Center

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Re: [lace] needle lace

2012-01-07 Thread Jennifer Audsley
Hi Lauren,

I have spent a couple of days re-organising all my sewing, crocheting and
lace-making stuff (very therapeutic and good fun too!). In the process I
found my wire needle lace piece. I've uploaded the wire reticella photo on
Lorelei's Ning needle lace site: http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo

The design is one of Liz Ligeti's, I will get back to working on it and
post another pic with - hopefully - more progress. And a close up so you
get a better idea of how it's coming together.

Jen in Melbourne, Australia.

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Re: [lace] needle lace

2012-01-07 Thread L.Snyder

HI Jen!
 The picture is wonderful! I will have to compare, but I think the wire 
I am using is about the same size you used. Your stitches are a lot 
finer that mine are right now. I'll have the push mine together, make 
them tighter and smaller. I love the look! Thanks for posting the picture.

Needlelace in wire is possible!
Lauren


On 1/7/2012 3:13 PM, Jennifer Audsley wrote:

Hi Lauren,

I have spent a couple of days re-organising all my sewing, crocheting 
and lace-making stuff (very therapeutic and good fun too!). In the 
process I found my wire needle lace piece. I've uploaded the wire 
reticella photo on Lorelei's Ning needle lace site: 
http://needlelacetalk.ning.com/photo


The design is one of Liz Ligeti's, I will get back to working on it 
and post another pic with - hopefully - more progress. And a close up 
so you get a better idea of how it's coming together.


Jen in Melbourne, Australia.


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[lace] staying out of trouble another sewing tool

2012-01-07 Thread hottleco
Hello All!  It's been an interesting weekend so far!  Last night my neighbor  
I attended a painting event at Total Wine (8000 labels, so little time!).  In 
the space of two hours we made an acrylic painting on canvas with tissue 
paper/newspaper collage--along with 20 other artistes.  The wine flowed  a 
good time was had by all.  The teacher, a sculptor, explained that this 
technique works with other collage items such as fabric, LACE, yarn  thread.  
I can hardly wait to try this out when my PA stash is at hand!  Today I 
attended a dyeing event where we used silk ties to dye silk fabric using 
boiling water, vinegar  an aluminum pot.  WOW--the results were astonishing  
not at all what you would expect from the ties!  A little Oya on the edges  
you're very fashionable.  On the net, Mary Corbet's Needle 'n Thread site has 
been offering a giveaway for the Twelve Days of Christmas.  When I checked out 
one of the gifts, I found that the artisan also makes custom made cr!
 ochet hooks in addition to laying tools (for embroidery).  
www.etsy.com/shop/JRCrafter?ref=seller_info  (usual disclaimers!!)  I've got my 
eye on the green  black swirl that reminds me of jadeite.  What I wanted to 
ask however--does anyone else use a crochet hook with a specialty handle?  Not 
just from the beautiful tool perspective, but from the bigger handle is 
easier to hold angle?  Noting Peg's frustrations with multiple sewings brought 
back unhappy memories of struggling with that thin shaft.  :-(  Just wondered 
if it would be worth contacting this dude to see if he will make one with a 
tiny hook?  He offers a range of sizes (Boye) but not small enough.  I'm also 
wondering if anyone has used a tambour hook?  Suggestions?  Tomorrow is 
Oshagatsu at Morikami--Year of the Dragon.  Happy New Year to All!  Sincerely, 
Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL USA

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[lace] Webshots

2012-01-07 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
I want to go in and change my photos, but the silly thing won't let me in
for some reason.  I tried with all lower case, then Initial in Upper case,
neither with any success.

Has the user name or password changed ?  I just can't Log In.

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
lizl...@bigpond.com

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[lace] Webshots

2012-01-07 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Gr!!!   I got in to the Webshots  (I was putting in
a space in the name, which should not have been there.)

Then I downloaded new photos, and named them, - and supposedly removed the
old photos. Then is said an error, so do it again, Which I did, - and now
find there is 2 of everything and the old stuff was not deleted.  I only
wanted 12 photos in the album not the 30+ that are there! 

If anyone can help me, please let me know how to delete what I don't want in
the album!!

Regards from a very frustrated  Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
lizl...@bigpond.com

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