[lace] removing odors from textiles
Hello All! Over the past few days, there has been a discussion on the ANG (American Needlepoint Guild) list about deodorizing needlepoint threads. Someone even suggested an ozone treatment--available at a high-end car wash/detailing establishment--to remove cigarette smoke. Today, a textile conservator wrote to quash that idea, saying that it accelerates the aging process of the textile. Instead, she recommended the wash in warmed, de-ionized water air dry method espoused by Jeri. She also recommended MicroChamber Interleaving Paper, available from Conservation Resources http://www.conservationresources.com/Main/section 15/section15 03.htm Just wondering--has anyone used this product? Usual disclaimers here! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] removing odors from textiles
Hi Everybody: MicroChamber Interleaving paper is intended for conservation of old books and papers, so I see no reason why it would not be perfectly safe for other cellulose-based materials, like most of our laces. (I don't know how it may affect silk, which is protein-based). It would be great for flat things like textiles - I am quite excited about trying it (you can get it in Canada from Carr-McLean in Toronto). But I do wonder whether it would work well with threads, since as I understand it, the product has to touch the items to affect them, and of course it would only touch the outside of a spool of thread, for instance. Probably you would have to cover a cylinder (like the inside core of a toilet-paper roll) with the paper, then wrap the thread around the cylinder and then wrap the cylinder in the paper so the paper would touch both sides. That might be more trouble than it's worth. From time to time we've had discussions here about removing the smell of cigarette smoke from old books. That's what this stuff does best - it's great to finally have an easy process to follow! Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) Hello All! Over the past few days, there has been a discussion on the ANG (American Needlepoint Guild) list about deodorizing needlepoint threads. Someone even suggested an ozone treatment--available at a high-end car wash/detailing establishment--to remove cigarette smoke. Today, a textile conservator wrote to quash that idea, saying that it accelerates the aging process of the textile. Instead, she recommended the wash in warmed, de-ionized water air dry method espoused by Jeri. She also recommended MicroChamber Interleaving Paper, available from Conservation Resources http://www.conservationresources.com/Main/section 15/section15 03.htm Just wondering--has anyone used this product? Usual disclaimers here! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] divide4r pins
I am in need of opinions, please :-) I make divider pins for use in Bobbin lace. Mainly they are brass pins and some of them are silver plated. In the past I have bought piuns in large numbers and used them freely. Yesterday I received a shipment, and this time they are labeled with a warning that the pins contain lead and therefore are not recommended for use by children. So my question... How do you feel about pins with lead in them? Do you only pick up and move the pins by holding to the decorative beds or turnings on them, or do you7 lift and reposition your pins by holding the metal pin itself? I am getting ready to return the pins, but I thought I would ask first! Thank you. Lauren Snyder - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] divide4r pins
Hi Lauren, Brass consist mainly of copper and zinc. It has a tiny proportion of lead to aid manufacture (1.5 to 2 %). It can leach out slightly, but I don't think you need to worry over much. Many lace-makers, who have been using brass pins all their lives, live and have lived to a ripe old age. But it does re-iterate the fact that one must not put pins in the mouth. Not only do the enzymes of the saliva corrode the pins and can cause verdigris marks on your lace it might lead to ingestion of the metals -besides the danger of actually swallowing a pin-. Normal handling of brass pins ought not to cause problems. However, I tend to prefer stainless steel pins. Not because I worry about the metals, but because stainless steel pins are stronger and less prone to bending They also don't discolour like brass pins. Happy lace making, Joepie, from a very stormy East Sussex. I am in need of opinions, please :-) I make divider pins for use in Bobbin lace. Mainly they are brass pins and some of them are silver plated. In the past I have bought piuns in large numbers and used them freely. Yesterday I received a shipment, and this time they are labeled with a warning that the pins contain lead and therefore are not recommended for use by children. So my question... How do you feel about pins with lead in them? Do you only pick up and move the pins by holding to the decorative beds or turnings on them, or do you7 lift and reposition your pins by holding the metal pin itself? I am getting ready to return the pins, but I thought I would ask first! Thank you. Lauren Snyder - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] divide4r pins
Hello all, As someone who uses divider pins a lot, I don't want to have anything to do with anything containing lead. If it's a question of the pin part containing lead and not the top, it doesn't matter. You still grab those pins by the wire every now and then, so the less exposure to toxins the better. I hope you can return that product without much hassle... Debora .. In a beautiful, sunny and warm Toronto... and it's Friday! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] divide4r pins
Hi Lauren: When I first read your post I thought maybe the pins contained lead because they were poorly made in a third-world factory, but after a quick trip to Wikipedia I see that probably all of our brass pins contain lead. I did not know that! I don't usually worry all that much about lead, but in this case I am concerned because according to the Wiki article ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass ), even though leaded brass is usually only about 2% lead, the lead tends to migrate to the outside, so the effect in terms of how much lead comes off the brass is much higher than the 2% figure. Worse, since the brass is in pins that we pick up by grasping firmly with our fingers, it looks to me like the chance of us actually ingesting the lead is higher than if the brass article were something we rarely touched. And of course during long hours of lacemaking it's pretty normal to stop for a bite to eat, and while we'd certainly wash our hands after the snack and before touching our lace again, we might not wash our hands before taking that cookie or eating that sandwich. I have been wondering lately, how to clean some old brass pins that I have. Now I'm thinking I'll just throw them out. Adele North Vancouver BC (west coast of Canada) On 2012-06-08, at 9:29 AM, L.Snyder wrote: I am in need of opinions, please :-) I make divider pins for use in Bobbin lace. Mainly they are brass pins and some of them are silver plated. In the past I have bought piuns in large numbers and used them freely. Yesterday I received a shipment, and this time they are labeled with a warning that the pins contain lead and therefore are not recommended for use by children. So my question... How do you feel about pins with lead in them? Do you only pick up and move the pins by holding to the decorative beds or turnings on them, or do you7 lift and reposition your pins by holding the metal pin itself? I am getting ready to return the pins, but I thought I would ask first! Thank you. Lauren Snyder - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
Re: [lace] Which way is better?
Yes it is easy to use a strand of wire on the outer edge of bobbin lace to stiffen a petal etc. The only problem comes when you wear it, the flower can get squashed out of shape - particularly if the flower is being worn as a corsage. If you choose to use stiffener, make sure it is one that sets permanently - you don't want it going limp on a humid day (or washing out in a sudden downpour!!) Sue sueba...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Lyn Bailey 1. Can you make bobbin lace with a wire frame for stiffening? and 2. Assuming stiffening lace with wire is possible, is this a better method than painting a stiffener onto the lace while on the pillow? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] Which way is better?
Yes, you can use wire in bobbin lace - when I've made flowers I've used a pair with a fine beading wire (the one I've used is sold on small reels and made by Impex) - starting at a petal, you hang all of the pairs 'open' (also called 'rainbow fashion') and use the wire as if it was thread. I tend to place the wire so that it is the third passive 'thread' from either side. To finish the wire off, don't cut it too short, but use it to wrap round the stem when you are putting the petals together to form a flower. I think you can also use cake wire, and the enamel coated wires that the beading shops are now selling, but some of those seem a little thick - it depends on the thickness and colour of the thread you are using as to whether you want to use coloured wire or not. Using stiffener (which is basically water soluble PVA, diluted), you can at some future date wash the stiffener out, and it won't rust if it gets wet through rain or you decide the flowers need cleaning. Wire can tarnish - for this reason I ended up replacing the fuse wire my mother had used to stiffen the tiara she tatted for me to wear on my wedding day (which was 31 years and two days ago!) - I used a silver coloured craft wire which hasn't tarnished - but in this case the wire had been stitched to the tatting, not incorporated into it, so was easily replaced. Basically, any stiffener you use should be able to be removed by washing, and shouldn't be attractive to insects (eg sugar or starch based). If you use wire, remember it is a permanent part of bobbin lace construction so if it does corrode you won't be able to replace it. In needlelace, you would cover the wire with close buttonhole stitches, so it wouldn't be seen even if it did tarnish. In message F07B9ED549E1413FA162E2FD37F6A767@Cecily, Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.net writes 1. Can you make bobbin lace with a wire frame for stiffening? and 2. Assuming stiffening lace with wire is possible, is this a better method than painting a stiffener onto the lace while on the pillow? -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
[lace] finished project
I just finished a Bedfordshire edging from Barbara Underwood's book. http://laceioli.ning.com/photo/bedfordshire-bobbin-lace-3?context=latest Not as spectacular as some of our members, but I want to get a really strong grounding so I can eventually design it. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003/albums/most-recent
