RE: [lace] Jenny Koops books

2013-03-18 Thread mary carey
Dear Janis,

Perhaps it would be possible for you to let Jenny know that some people on the
internet are interested in her book and ask how we can get hold of them?

Mary Carey

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Re: [lace] Jenny Koops books

2013-03-18 Thread suebabbs
Is it possible for her to produce as a pdf (easy to do these days) and then 
sell it on the internet - collecting payment by Paypal? 



Sue 




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Dear Janis, 

Perhaps it would be possible for you to let Jenny know that some people on the 
internet are interested in her book and ask how we can get hold of them? 

Mary Carey 

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Re: [lace] peccadilles

2013-03-18 Thread J D Hammett

Hi Julie and fellow Arachnids,

Thank you Julie for a very interesting 'thread' which certainly looks worth 
following up.


Further as to lurk or not to lurk; when I joined a few years ago, I got 
'shot down' by a lady from a most unexpected quarter and did not post for 
several months. Then being me [I can't keep my mouth shut if there is a 
point to make ;-)], I waded in again. The point is; do what you feel 
comfortable with, but it is nice to get some acknowledgement occasionally of 
a point made or information/knowledge/assistance given.


As far as language (English or any other) is concerned; please have a go at 
posting, we can usually understand it (if not we can ask for help) and are 
thankful for any new point, technique and little trick that may help us to 
make better lace. Anyone who gets upset because of grammar/spelling or other 
perceived failings; it is their loss if they cannot see past that to the 
point of the posting.


Happy lace making and posting,

Joepie, East Sussex, UK



From: Julie Ourom

I came across a mention of peccadilles in some non-lace reading ..

Here's Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piccadill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piccadill


There seems to be other information online, not all in languages I read.
Here's one that confirms the Wikipedia entry (or may be where the
information originated J.)

Historic dress 1608-1800 (Internet Archives)

http://www.archive.org/stream/1607historicdres00mccluoft/1607historicdres00
mccluoft_djvu.txt
http://www.archive.org/stream/1607historicdres00mccluoft/1607historicdres00m
ccluoft_djvu.txt
..
.

... The reception people get when they post is arguably a major
factor in why people stay or disappear and surely the latter is not what
we want.

In the meantime, I hope the information on peccadilles is useful to someone.

JulieO in Whitehorse, Yukon, Canada who REALLY planned to make lace this
afternoon.

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Re: [lace] Jenny Koops books

2013-03-18 Thread J D Hammett

Hi Arachnids,

Could these books be published via the internet ?

Joepie, East Sussex, UK


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Subject: RE: [lace] Jenny Koops books

Dear Janis,

Perhaps it would be possible for you to let Jenny know that some people on 
the

internet are interested in her book and ask how we can get hold of them?

Mary Carey

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RE: [lace] language of lace

2013-03-18 Thread Margery Allcock
Debora Lustgarten wrote:
 Jenny's message was a good example. The terms she had Google 
 translate into Spanish (cloth-stitch trail and spray of leaves) came

 out as fabric track pin-prick and leave spraying [as when you 
 spray vegetables with pesticide]
 he he he he... See what I mean?

But, as I read it, Jenny's idea was that the machine translation was
just to be a trigger for a real native-speaking lacemaker to offer the
correct terms, and not that we should believe what Google offered. As
if ... G.

Margery.
 
margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Herts, UK 
 
 

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Re: [lace] Jenny Koops books - Distribution suggestion

2013-03-18 Thread Jeriames
Barbara Ballantyne, Australian expert on historic crochet, has her books  
distributed by Lacis in the U.S.  She has at least one distributor in  
Europe, I think in the U.K.
 
You might ask her how this works and find out if it is feasible for the  
Koops book.
 
Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource  Center

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Re: [lace] Jenny Koops books - Distribution suggestion

2013-03-18 Thread Janis Savage
Thanks for all the suggestions for distributing Jenny Koops books. There are 
one or two other small South African Books too including Jean Horne's.
It is a difficult time to speak to Jenny at the moment as her husband has 
just had a stroke and is still in hospital but I will follow up on your 
suggestions.

Janis Savage
www.thelaceplace.co.za


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Subject: Re: [lace] Jenny Koops books - Distribution suggestion

Barbara Ballantyne, Australian expert on historic crochet, has her books
distributed by Lacis in the U.S.  She has at least one distributor in
Europe, I think in the U.K.

You might ask her how this works and find out if it is feasible for the
Koops book.

Jeri Ames in  Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource  Center

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Re: [lace] Need to share the pain

2013-03-18 Thread Cherre
Robin I am so sorry for your tipped pillow. This happened to me once in a 
class, Bridget Cook was the instructor. I was trying to untangle each thread 
caught on the pins. She said no no, and to my horror picked up my pillow turned 
it upside down and gave it a little shake or two and all the threads fell away 
from the pins! We have had many cats over the years and I have had to use the 
untangle method a couple of times. I would imagine if your spangles are too 
heavy you might break a thread, but I have been lucky and not broken a thread 
when shaking.

I was on the list many years ago and just recently came back to lace, I am a 
lurker but thought you could relate to my little story. I still have a binder 
with copies of all the good info I had gleaned from the list. 

Cherre in the beautiful starting a little early getting hot California desert.

On Mar 18, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Robin D human.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 Woke up this morning to find my lace pillow, with major project, on the
 floor.  The box of pins scattered everywhere along with bits of broken cat
 claw.  I was lucky in that the bobbins (midlands) were all strung onto
 knitting stitch holders and/or pinned down under a cloth - so they really
 are not that tangled.  However, one of the size 100 silk threads is
 broken.  I can't decide whether to kill my husband's cat or cry.   This cat
 knows better and I have warned my DH that his indoor cat may find herself
 living outside.  In all the years we've shared space she chooses the
 project that means the most to me to ruin.  I designed the pattern while
 dealing with my father's sudden death and DH really encouraged me to
 actually try to make it.  I've been so careful not to make mistakes or
 anything.
 
 Going with crying, but the cat is exiled to the back of the house.
 
 *sigh*
 Robin
 
 PS:  Wait what?  Liz are you teaching a class or just coming to Utah?   I
 am truly excited to meet you, but if you are teaching and I missed that
 somehow I'll be very put out!
 
 -- 
 Never, ever, let anyone tell you what you can and can't do. Prove the
 cynics wrong. Pity them for they have no imagination.
 The sky's the limit. *Your* sky. *Your *limit.   Now, let's dance.  *~Tom
 Hiddleston*
 
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RE: [lace] Re: Arachne 20 years

2013-03-18 Thread Angel Skubic
I think the idea of commemorative bobbins and possibly accessories like pin
pusher/pin lifter/divider pins/etc?? Maybe the accessories are over the top
but just an idea, I think the prospect of getting every member to
contribute to a lace panel (might be a very LONG panel) would be difficult
considering the varying skill and would be difficult considering the varying
skill and experience of our members.

Cearbhael

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Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Arachne 20 years

Dear Friends,
As we have 2 years or so to go until the 20th anniversry, we have plenty of
time to think about how to celebrate it.
As mentioned, a commemorative bobbin is pne option. We could e.g. ask
Stuart
Johnson, as he does inscriptions, as does Mike Bester in South Africa and
probably many more.

Stuart and Mike are 2 of my favourite bobbin turners, but I think 
Mike's not making them any more.

The other is to make a lace panel, with each member doing a part of it

Nice idea, but who'd get the panel?? 'cos I know we'd all want it :)
David in Ballarat, AUS

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[lace] Re: language of lace; location of archives

2013-03-18 Thread acslifer
 As a rank beginner, I haven't contributed much to the list, but I will make
more of an effort to contribute as I can. I'm just so inspired and in awe of
the knowledge on this list, and so enjoyed meeting fellow Arachne-ans at the
IOLI convention in St. Paul last summer.

In the discussion of lace terms in multiple languages, someone mentioned a
lace glossary on the arachne archives. How does one access these archives? At
the convention, I purchased several books in German and could definitely use
help in deciphering some of the information.

Thank you for all of your help and inspiration,

Angelia in snowy, blizzardy Minnesota, USA
Current lace project: Ninepin edging to learn plaits and picots

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[lace] Translating the Language of Lace

2013-03-18 Thread Lyn Bailey
Two things, first for those where English is not the first language, may I 
suggest doing what my cousin Ellen and I do.  My German is poor, and her 
English is worse.  So she speaks and writes to me in German, and I speak and 
write to her in English.  We each have our little yellow dictionaries, and 
we get along fairly well.  I would suggest that anyone who is at a loss to 
write the term in English, write those terms in the language with which they 
are most comfortable.  It is probably the most efficient way of doing 
things.  Someone on the list will probably be able to translate it for the 
English speakers.  And sometimes one can figure out what it means from the 
garble Google puts out.


As for books and the like, I urge anyone struggling with foreign language 
lace books to try to find a copy of the International Lace Dictionary, last 
published in Gent in 1998.  Edith Spee is the first listed Author.  Jeri 
recommended it back in 2006 or so.  It is not easy to find, but it is a 
great resource.  I discovered it when I was trying to translate Ulrike Lohr 
Voelcker's fantastic beginner's manual.  I can sort of do the German, 
especially armed with a dictionary, but there were words that didn't 
translate, that I couldn't find, or that simply didn't make sense.  At that 
time there was no translation.  Then Holly Van Sciver suggested the 
dictionary, and everything fell into place.  All the missing words were 
there.  It may not be needed for histories of lace, but for manuals it is 
invaluable.  One source lists its locations as the Library of Congress, 
someplace in Holland, and one other European place.  I do not find it on 
inter library loan.  But I bet there are lace groups with libraries who have 
it in the collection.  There is one copy for sale at Amazon.co.uk  Wouldn't 
be surprised if IOLI has a copy.  Certainly for those whose native language 
is not a common one, like Hungarian or Finnish, it would help in translating 
most of the lace books that exist.


Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where we haven't gotten any snow yet. 
But it's cold and cloudy and damp.  A good day to make lace with a pot of 
tea. Will spring never come? 


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RE: [lace] Translating the Language of Lace

2013-03-18 Thread Noelene Lafferty
The International Lace Dictionary is certainly an asset to any lace library.
I bought mine from Barbara Fay in Germany by mail order:
http://www.barbara-fay.de/j/.  I just checked and they still stock it.

Noelene in Cooma
nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au

As for books and the like, I urge anyone struggling with foreign language
lace books to try to find a copy of the International Lace Dictionary, last
published in Gent in 1998.  Edith Spee is the first listed Author.  Jeri
recommended it back in 2006 or so.  It is not easy to find, but it is a
great resource.  

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[lace] Lace in contemporary fashion

2013-03-18 Thread Leonard Bazar
An article in the Weekend Financial Times, at present on line at
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/1b3218fe-8717-11e2-bde6-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2NvNh
cA53 gives an interesting insight into how designers, High Street and couture,
are using lace now.  Obviously machine, but it may inspire one of us to wear
something.  Clare Brown of the VA (where the Treasures of the Royal Courts
exhibition of course includes lace) talks about ruffs, illustrated by one worn
in a Tudor portrait minature, and one worn as part of an Alexander McQueen
model!  It finishes with a glossary of types of lace, useful to us because
it's how the terms are used by the fashion industry, ie the users, not by us,
the makers.  As ever, divided by a common language!
 
leonard...@yahoo.com

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Re: [lace] lurkers and posting

2013-03-18 Thread Ayla Middleton
Dear spiders

I joined arachne late last year, and apart from joining
the Christmas exchange, have mostly been lurking. As a beginner I haven't
really felt i've had much to contribute to the list, and was just coming to
the point when I had questions to ask when these emails
about contributors arrived. However I'm about to go on holiday, sadly
without any lace, so will lurk for a bit longer and post questions when I
get back.

As for the 20th anniversary, I favor bobbins. Being new to lace making I
haven't nearly reached the point of having enough bobbins yet, let alone
too many to count!

regards
Ayla

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[lace] sharing the pain.

2013-03-18 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Robin, that is terrible. I had it happen once many years ago - and I did
not, in those days, pin down my bobbins! It took a couple of hours to
untangle them. Since then I Always slip them on to knitters stitch
holders!! I learned the hard way!!

Pity there is a broken thread. I hope you can hang on a new thread without
it showing too much.  I am sure you can.

I am a Student at IOLI - Not teaching!  I have my fingers - and toes-
crossed that I get my first choice - the Russian Braid lace with Sylvie
Nguyen.
What class are you hoping to do?

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
lizl...@bigpond.com

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Re: [lace] lurkers and posting

2013-03-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
Dear Ayla, and other newbies to the list...

When I first joined Arachne, I had only been making lace for about six weeks!  
However, I had a medical crisis that confined me for another six weeks, so I 
could not go to guild meetings to continue my lessons.  (Note to guilds...  
Have an outreach volunteer for just such an emergency!).  

However, after going on-line and discovering Arachne, I posted, had an 
avalanche of responses, made a dear friend of another (seasoned) lacemaker 
merely 40 miles away (over the mountain), received tons if help, and the rest 
is history!

This list is definitely a huge boost to newcomers...  But only if you post!  Be 
careful not to reveal email address or mailing address in a post to the list, 
but if you give a general region and the country you're in, then chances are 
you can eventually find a mentor, as I did.  

Thanks, Tamara Duvall!VBG

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA, USA







Sent from my iPad

On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:31 PM, Ayla Middleton ayla.p.middle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear spiders
 
 I joined arachne late last year, and apart from joining
 the Christmas exchange, have mostly been lurking. As a beginner I haven't
 really felt i've had much to contribute to the list, and was just coming to
 the point when I had questions to ask when these emails
 about contributors arrived. However I'm about to go on holiday, sadly
 without any lace, so will lurk for a bit longer and post questions when I
 get back.
 
 As for the 20th anniversary, I favor bobbins. Being new to lace making I
 haven't nearly reached the point of having enough bobbins yet, let alone
 too many to count!
 
 regards
 Ayla
 
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[lace] peccadilles

2013-03-18 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Julie, I found your article extremely interesting, - and I learned quite a
lot!!
Please keep posting with these Gems. Items like these get overlooked , - or
not looked into at all, and they are just so informative, and help us to
understand what we are looking at, or call by a different name.

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
lizl...@bigpond.com

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Re: [lace] Lace in contemporary fashion

2013-03-18 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Leonard Bazar wrote:

 [...]
 http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/1b3218fe-8717-11e2-bde6-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2NvNh
 cA53 gives an interesting insight into how designers, High Street and couture,
 are using lace now.  [...] It finishes with a glossary of types of lace, 
 useful to us because
 it's how the terms are used by the fashion industry, ie the users, not by us,
 the makers.  As ever, divided by a common language!

The Mountbatten family should *sue* for that Battenburg lace. And Cluny 
should invade :)
-- 
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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Re: [lace] peccadilles

2013-03-18 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Mar 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote:

 [...] am convinced that peccadille is the French for the Spanish piccadillo, 
 which means, in French, a small sin, 
 http://www.larousse.com/en/dictionnaires/francais/peccadille/58870  and   
 http://www.mediadico.com/dictionnaire/francais-anglais/peccadilleAt 
 least, that's what it means now.

Means the same thing in English, too:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/peccadillo

Indeed, that was the first interpretation I thought of, not the Piccadilly 
Circus at all. But, once the Piccadilly Circus connection was pointed out, I 
wondered just what sort of monkey business (if not, necessarily, a full 
circus) had been going on there, in 16th and early 17th century... :)

Nothing, it appears; there was no Piccadilly Circus till (early) 19th century...
-- 
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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RE: [lace] peccadilles

2013-03-18 Thread twohappyb...@aol.com
I’m so happy to see your posts again, T.  You have truly been missed!  And 
the same thing came to my mind re: the word “peccadilles”...peccadillo.  
After seeing more description of its having open cutwork or eyelets (using a 
stiletto?), another thought...could it have any connection to the word or its 
root “picador” (as in bullfighting)?   A stretch, I know)-:

 

Vicki in Maryland

 

 

Sent from Windows Mail


  
Means the same thing in English, too:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/peccadillo

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[lace-chat] Re Susan of Tennessee

2013-03-18 Thread Shirley Meier

Thanks for filling me in on Susan, and I share your sentiments.;-)
Shirley in Corio.Oz

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] Re Susan of Tennessee

2013-03-18 Thread David C COLLYER

Dear T,

 I wonder what did become of Susan, I had forgotten all about her, 
is it that long ago David?


Wasn't, really; David misremembers :)it had to have been *at 
least* 2003...


Thanks for that correction. I knew it was a long time ago - fancy - 
only 10 years!

David in Ballarat, AUS

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Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] Re Susan of Tennessee

2013-03-18 Thread H Mmmm
Well, since Jeri has got so many of the lurkers out of hiding and some of
my old friends are posting, I had better come out too.

I'm Heather Muth and have been with Arachne almost since the beginning.
I've lurked for many years now.  Tamara, I'm so sorry to hear of your
husband.Like Tamara, however, it was trauma that made me step into the
background.  It was about 12 years ago that I became ill, 11 years ago that
my husband started his affair and 8 years ago that we separated.  I am now
quite happily divorced.  I've focused more on my embroidery since then,
although I still love the lace.  And for those, like Bev Walker, who may
remember my children, my daughter has been married for over a year (I know,
right!) and my son is a student at the University of the Fraser Valley, as
am I.

I can't believe that Arachne is 18. It doesn't seem that long.

Heather



On 18 March 2013 04:09, David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au wrote:

 Dear T,


  I wonder what did become of Susan, I had forgotten all about her, is it
 that long ago David?

 Wasn't, really; David misremembers :)it had to have been *at least*
 2003...


 Thanks for that correction. I knew it was a long time ago - fancy - only
 10 years!
 David in Ballarat, AUS


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2013-03-18 Thread Jean Nathan

Just looked in the Arachne archive and she was posting in 2004.

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