RE: [lace] re:stunned
Liz wrote: A friend who dealt in antiques said that 25 years makes vintage and 50 antique. This was told to me in the80s so it seemed right that 50s items were vintage. However I find it strange to think of 70s items as vintage. I tend to try not to think about the 70s at all!!! Officially in the UK an antique has to be 100 years old. Think it's only 50 years in the US. Don't know about elsewhere. Vintage is really a worthless phrase - it's sometimes used to describe items a year old or less if it's no longer available and depending on what it is. A vintage computer could only be 10 or 15 years old. On antiques programmes, they now seem to be regarding the 1980s as vintage. Obviously the years will advance as time does. In the year 2000, 1900 was antique. Now it's 1914. I think most of us are vintage, and it won't be long before some of us are (hopefully) antique (we already are if you use the US version)! Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Stunned - Heron and dragonfly
This second one didn't sell - even at only £10.00 Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Stunned - Heron and dragonfly (revised)
Sorry, yes it did sell for £21.99, which still isn't a lot. Reason for thinking it didn't sell was that I had noted the Tern listing and then looked for sellers other items completed and got the result that the Heron had no bids at £10.00. But searching for it in the top search box gave the totally different result. Ebay is behaving strangely lately. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Crediting designers (was stunned)
Hello all De-lurking because Jane Partridge raised an interesting point: .glad that someone who wanted it bought it (even if that person was a dealer themselves who would possibly sell it on), and that the maker liked the design to spend time making it - I'm sure Jane Read knows as well as I do that you can have many patterns published but it is rare that you hear whether or not anyone has ever made lace from them. If I give away an item I've made from a published design I do try and find a way to add an acknowledgement to the item showing the designer's name as well as my own as the maker. Easy enough for a framed picture but more difficult for something like a garter or hankie. But perhaps if we make a design that we particularly like we should send some sort of message of thanks to the designer. Either on here for people we know subscribe or via the publisher for patterns obtained from books. Is that something that would be appreciated, Jane (P. or R. or any other designer reading this)? The downside of this is that some of the best designs around are from people we can no longer thank. Perhaps making up their designs is the best waay of preserving their memory. Any comments? Hazel Smith (Cricklade, Wiltshire UK) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: Stunned
Hi All, Thank you for all the comments. Devon, you're quite right. I gave the pattern to the Lace Magazine so that others could enjoy seeing the lace and making it for themselves. I have no problem with that and its very nice to think that someone enjoyed making and having it. I suppose its a new experience for me, to see lace being passed on from someone who made it, and presumably enjoyed having it, but who is no longer with us and their creations no longer have any value or meaning. I hadn't thought of it like that, that now is a time to invest in modern lace because its cheap. I suppose that is true of many arts and crafts and the skill is in judging what might become more valuable with time. Jean, thank you for telling me about Bill Blake. I'm so glad he enjoyed this pattern. It's difficult to tell from the photo but the lace looks beautifully made. I wondered if it was someone clearing his estate and it seems very sad to think the work hasn't gone to members of the family to be treasured, but as Sue said, better that the lace should go to someone who wants it rather than it be thrown away. Lyn, I'm not sure I follow your story about the quilt although it sounds like moral infringement. As far as I know I still have copyright of the tern design. I don't believe this breaches that copyright anymore than selling books secondhand. Remember that when a book is sold secondhand, not a penny of that money goes to the author even though the copyright is still held by them. Anyway, no need to worry about copyright here - clearly no-one is going to make a profit out of the design! Oh Sue, 1105 euros for a milanese book! Thats incredible! (Ridiculous?!) Robin, interesting thoughts on selling hand made crafts, especially as I thought that with lace appearing at the high end of fashion (couturier, royal wedding, etc) that might filter down. Evidently not. Beth, yes sorry, 25 years. Too many for me to count :-). Thank you for all the conversation, its been interesting and helpful. Its great to have a community like arachne to 'chat' with. Best wishes, Jane Sunshine! A break from all the storms and rain in Southern England - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Re: Stunned
Some years ago my DH used one of my early pieces of Torchon Lace taken from Elizabeth Wades book to frame around a photo of my parents at their wedding which hung on her wall for some years afterwards. Last year she was very ill and we feared for her survival, but she is made of stronger stuff than we thought, :-) and then it was decided her independent life was over and she was prepared to go into a care home. Three of my siblings dismantled her home, leaving basic essentials to go into the home with her, threw away masses of stuff, normal clutter, but also this particular photograph including my lace. We didn't find out until she was settled into her room and we were able to visit. She had none of her items which made her room home, except her clock which was a wedding gift. Eventually some of us have restored some of her photos and other little pleasures of life but of course the lace is lost. I am going to take her a new piece that has been hanging on our wall for several years to replace it, but putting a label on the back tell them to return to me when she is finished with it. I was disappointed with my sisters for not returning it to me first. Sue T Dorset UK Jane wrote Thank you for all the comments. Jean, thank you for telling me about Bill Blake. I'm so glad he enjoyed this pattern. It's difficult to tell from the photo but the lace looks beautifully made. I wondered if it was someone clearing his estate and it seems very sad to think the work hasn't gone to members of the family to be treasured, but as Sue said, better that the lace should go to someone who wants it rather than it be thrown away. Thank you for all the conversation, its been interesting and helpful. Its great to have a community like arachne to 'chat' with. Best wishes, Jane - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] lace video on Youtube
Hello, all - Just watched this video, thanks to a Facebook posting on Bobbin Lace Makers group: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfD9v70TiF0 I am just stunned by the amazing use of lace in modern ways - gorgeous stuff. I *think* the language is Russian and I am hoping that there might be someone on Arachne who understands the language and can explain to us all what is being said. The beginning images of women at pillows making lace leads to stunning creations - are they truly using handmade lace in those creations? What kind of prices are they charging? Off to try looking up some more info about this! arlene in NJ on the east coast of the US, watching more and more inches of snow fall today - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Research for Future Lace Scholars
Reading all the disastrous things that can happen to an estate's lace treasures prompts me to write about lace ephemera --- some of which I am keeping in my library for the use of future researchers. Ephemera is defined in my dictionary as 1) Something of no lasting significance, or 2) Collectibles not intended to have lasting value. It is 2) that I am writing about - in this case: lace posters, lace auction catalogues, brochures and photos of lace exhibits, supplies catalogues, etc. Presently, some of these are searchable by computer. But, some are hard to come by, and may be useful to historians after the owners of today's web sites have passed on and their sites have disappeared into ether. I am not giving up on paper ephemera and related equipment, supplies, etc.! Example: We read last year that Susan Cox, Principal of The English Lace School had owned laces. Some of these laces were being sent to auction. It did not take long to decide information about the School and something about her collection should have a special folio in my library. First, I searched for the School, and located a 36-page 1983 prospectus, offered for sale by a U.K. book dealer. It was de-accessioned by the Devon County Council Library Services. My local independent book store gets such things for me. What a treasure of English 20th Century ephemera about lace this is! It provides information about classes, teachers (who became lace book authors of the period), and tuition, and had supporting advertising. Then, I began to track the auctions via computer, so there would be some idea of auction values in 2014 (I am doing this also for Pat Earnshaw's laces - filed in thick binders). There was the big London auction of a few pieces. Then, Laurie Waters of Lace News listed seven smaller Susan Cox laces in her Ebay Alerts! Twenty-one items - December 2, 2014.Note the typo - It was really February 2. The private dealer selling both Cox and Earnshaw laces on Ebay is usually derbeatle, Cheltenham, U.K. If you subscribe to Laurie Waters' Lace News (free), here is what I do: 1. Wait 10 days to read Lace News, capture pictures and get auction results. I don't want to waste time going back for the results (I never buy lace without holding it in my hands for a personal look and feel). 2. Above the Subject line - to Right - click on Show images and enable links. This moves a picture into each description, and if you click on the picture, you can make an enlarged print for keeping. 3. At the beginning of each entry is http://tinyurl.com/ etc. address. Click on that, and see the Ebay final sale price. Print. Laurie is a knowledgeable expert, and gives a nice assessment of the laces, sometimes correcting identification info given by dealers, sometimes sharing interesting history. She also gives condition, if you are considering bidding. If you would like to learn lace identification, but other demands of life permit only small chunks of free time, this is a wonderful way to see representative examples of laces offered on Ebay, without plodding through hundreds of entries. It would be nice to know if others are trying to keep records that our guilds may not have resources to save. I am mindful that my Hungarian friend has stressed the importance of keeping information in places around the world, so if one region is devastated by war and plunder, all is not lost. Women need to be more aware of this. Men document everything about wars, politics, sports, exploration, business, etc., funding with public money from everyone's taxes. Women? Not much documentation, though they have always represented about 1/2 the human race. What lace makers did was once a huge industry, and those of us doing research have difficulty reconstructing what was not properly recorded then, and what is not being saved now. If you have lace-related things of historical value that should be saved for future generations, please check with this list (Arachne), a lace guild, or a trusted lace expert, for suggestions. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Research for Future Lace Scholars
Kudos to Jeri for bringing up this aspect of lace studies. I have a large collection of Phillips textile/lace auction catalogs from the 1980s and 1990s — the days before on-line catalogs. It is always interesting to see major pieces, watch for things to resurface, track prices, etc. Those were the days when Phillips (bought out many years ago by Bonhams) held about 6-8 auctions per year of textiles and lace, with hundreds of lots of lace each auction, dating from the 1600s to 1900s. This includes the catalogs from the Powys and Simeon sales. Audrey Field was their specialist, very knowledgeable with many connections, to gather together very interesting materials. EMK On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:25 PM, jeria...@aol.com wrote: Reading all the disastrous things that can happen to an estate's lace treasures prompts me to write about lace ephemera --- some of which I am keeping in my library for the use of future researchers. Ephemera is defined in my dictionary as 1) Something of no lasting significance, or 2) Collectibles not intended to have lasting value. It is 2) that I am writing about - in this case: lace posters, lace auction catalogues, brochures and photos of lace exhibits, supplies catalogues, etc. Presently, some of these are searchable by computer. But, some are hard to come by, and may be useful to historians after the owners of today's web sites have passed on and their sites have disappeared into ether. I am not giving up on paper ephemera and related equipment, supplies, etc.! Example: We read last year that Susan Cox, Principal of The English Lace School had owned laces. Some of these laces were being sent to auction. It did not take long to decide information about the School and something about her collection should have a special folio in my library. First, I searched for the School, and located a 36-page 1983 prospectus, offered for sale by a U.K. book dealer. It was de-accessioned by the Devon County Council Library Services. My local independent book store gets such things for me. What a treasure of English 20th Century ephemera about lace this is! It provides information about classes, teachers (who became lace book authors of the period), and tuition, and had supporting advertising. Then, I began to track the auctions via computer, so there would be some idea of auction values in 2014 (I am doing this also for Pat Earnshaw's laces - filed in thick binders). There was the big London auction of a few pieces. Then, Laurie Waters of Lace News listed seven smaller Susan Cox laces in her Ebay Alerts! Twenty-one items - December 2, 2014.Note the typo - It was really February 2. The private dealer selling both Cox and Earnshaw laces on Ebay is usually derbeatle, Cheltenham, U.K. If you subscribe to Laurie Waters' Lace News (free), here is what I do: 1. Wait 10 days to read Lace News, capture pictures and get auction results. I don't want to waste time going back for the results (I never buy lace without holding it in my hands for a personal look and feel). 2. Above the Subject line - to Right - click on Show images and enable links. This moves a picture into each description, and if you click on the picture, you can make an enlarged print for keeping. 3. At the beginning of each entry is http://tinyurl.com/ etc. address. Click on that, and see the Ebay final sale price. Print. Laurie is a knowledgeable expert, and gives a nice assessment of the laces, sometimes correcting identification info given by dealers, sometimes sharing interesting history. She also gives condition, if you are considering bidding. If you would like to learn lace identification, but other demands of life permit only small chunks of free time, this is a wonderful way to see representative examples of laces offered on Ebay, without plodding through hundreds of entries. It would be nice to know if others are trying to keep records that our guilds may not have resources to save. I am mindful that my Hungarian friend has stressed the importance of keeping information in places around the world, so if one region is devastated by war and plunder, all is not lost. Women need to be more aware of this. Men document everything about wars, politics, sports, exploration, business, etc., funding with public money from everyone's taxes. Women? Not much documentation, though they have always represented about 1/2 the human race. What lace makers did was once a huge industry, and those of us doing research have difficulty reconstructing what was not properly recorded then, and what is not being saved now. If you have lace-related things of historical value that should be saved for future generations, please check with this list (Arachne), a lace guild, or a trusted lace expert, for
Re: [lace] Research for Future Lace Scholars
Dear Jeri and All, I'm also a huge fan of Laurie Waters Lace News and reports. She is very thorough with her reporting and it's a wonderful treasure for all of us. Regarding the collection of items and ephemera, our guild tends to get the local lacemaker pieces. There are few lacemakers in our area, but occasionally a non-guild member family will track us down and share the deceased lacemaker's items. As the librarian, the items are all catalogued and photographed. Then, as a group, we decide how to handle everything. Most goes to a group silent auction. More often than not, fair prices are realized. We don't have a local shop, so we're thrilled to be able to purchase used items. As for binders of prickings and notes, scrapbooks, etc. we tend to keep those in our library. It is fun for all of us, new and seasoned lacemakers to look back at other lacemakers' journey through their craft. At least once a year, we have an open library day where everything is spread out and members can look a bit more leisurely through these things. Our library has grown through book, pillow, thread, pricking, and other donations. It is comforting to know the families didn't just pitch things in the garbage, or (in one case) burn it all. They were thoughtful enough and caring enough to get something of importance to them back into the hands that would use them. I hope our families will do so, too! On Thursday, February 13, 2014 12:47 PM, jeria...@aol.com jeria...@aol.com wrote: Reading all the disastrous things that can happen to an estate's lace treasures prompts me to write about lace ephemera --- some of which I am keeping in my library for the use of future researchers. Ephemera is defined in my dictionary as 1) Something of no lasting significance, or 2) Collectibles not intended to have lasting value. It is 2) that I am writing about - in this case: lace posters, lace auction catalogues, brochures and photos of lace exhibits, supplies catalogues, etc. Presently, some of these are searchable by computer. But, some are hard to come by, and may be useful to historians after the owners of today's web sites have passed on and their sites have disappeared into ether. I am not giving up on paper ephemera and related equipment, supplies, etc.! Example: We read last year that Susan Cox, Principal of The English Lace School had owned laces. Some of these laces were being sent to auction. It did not take long to decide information about the School and something about her collection should have a special folio in my library. First, I searched for the School, and located a 36-page 1983 prospectus, offered for sale by a U.K. book dealer. It was de-accessioned by the Devon County Council Library Services. My local independent book store gets such things for me. What a treasure of English 20th Century ephemera about lace this is! It provides information about classes, teachers (who became lace book authors of the period), and tuition, and had supporting advertising. Then, I began to track the auctions via computer, so there would be some idea of auction values in 2014 (I am doing this also for Pat Earnshaw's laces - filed in thick binders). There was the big London auction of a few pieces. Then, Laurie Waters of Lace News listed seven smaller Susan Cox laces in her Ebay Alerts! Twenty-one items - December 2, 2014. Note the typo - It was really February 2. The private dealer selling both Cox and Earnshaw laces on Ebay is usually derbeatle, Cheltenham, U.K. If you subscribe to Laurie Waters' Lace News (free), here is what I do: 1. Wait 10 days to read Lace News, capture pictures and get auction results. I don't want to waste time going back for the results (I never buy lace without holding it in my hands for a personal look and feel). 2. Above the Subject line - to Right - click on Show images and enable links. This moves a picture into each description, and if you click on the picture, you can make an enlarged print for keeping. 3. At the beginning of each entry is http://tinyurl.com/ etc. address. Click on that, and see the Ebay final sale price. Print. Laurie is a knowledgeable expert, and gives a nice assessment of the laces, sometimes correcting identification info given by dealers, sometimes sharing interesting history. She also gives condition, if you are considering bidding. If you would like to learn lace identification, but other demands of life permit only small chunks of free time, this is a wonderful way to see representative examples of laces offered on Ebay, without plodding through hundreds of entries. It would be nice to know if others are trying to keep records that our guilds may not have resources to save. I am mindful that my Hungarian friend has stressed the importance of keeping information in places around the world, so if one region is devastated by war and
[lace] Vologda lace on Sochi quilt
If you go to http://sochi2014.bosco.ru/en/, scroll through the samples of art in the quilt to Vologda lace, there is an hilarious (to me) description of how the lace is made. Noelene in Cooma nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] Vologda lace on Sochi quilt
Sorry, should have said the quilt is in the Look of the Games link at that site Noelene If you go to http://sochi2014.bosco.ru/en/, scroll through the samples of art in the quilt to Vologda lace, there is an hilarious (to me) description of how the lace is made. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] a name
There is a guy who makes replicas of historic costume, with his own hand embroidery and bobbin lace added. I just can't remember the name (a senior moment). Help! Brian something?? He has a website, and I can't even find my link. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] a name
Hello Lorelei, I do not know if you got my answer a couple of minutes agos. Anyway here I go again. Do you mean Bjarne Drews from Denmark? If it's him, here you have the website http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/ Regards, Maria Greil from Spain 2014-02-13 22:55 GMT+01:00 Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com: There is a guy who makes replicas of historic costume, with his own hand embroidery and bobbin lace added. I just can't remember the name (a senior moment). Help! Brian something?? He has a website, and I can't even find my link. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] a name
Are you thinking of Bjarne Drews? http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/ Sue Babbs suebabbs...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: Lorelei Halley Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 3:55 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] a name There is a guy who makes replicas of historic costume, with his own hand embroidery and bobbin lace added. I just can't remember the name (a senior moment). Help! Brian something?? He has a website, and I can't even find my link. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Vologda lace on Sochi quilt
Hello Noelene and everyone It is brilliant that lace is included. I've been playing Where's Waldo or Where's Waldo's Lace... the Vologda lace print can be seen on the fabric image here and there in the reportage. Saw it on the wall behind the start line of the downhill ski event, for instance! On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Noelene Lafferty nlaffe...@ozemail.com.au wrote: If you go to http://sochi2014.bosco.ru/en/, Look of the Games link -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Vologda lace on Sochi quilt
Hi Noelene! I finally was able to follow the crumbs and see what you were talking about! Once I found it, I totally agreed with your description of the lacemaking process!!! Thanks for sharing that! Clay Sorry, should have said the quilt is in the Look of the Games link at that site Noelene If you go to http://sochi2014.bosco.ru/en/, scroll through the samples of art in the quilt to Vologda lace, there is an hilarious (to me) description of how the lace is made. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] a name
Mary and Sue Thank you. Bjarne Drews is the one I was thinking of. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Vologda lace on Sochi quilt
You are right. That description was not written by a lacemaker, but I think the writer took notes from a lacemaker, but the notes weren't good enough. The cat that comes up when you click on the volgoda lace icon is very familiar. I have seen it recently, but I can't remember where. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where we got 13 inches 32.5 centimeters of snow today, with about 3 7.5cm more expected this evening. Noelene wrote: If you go to http://sochi2014.bosco.ru/en/, scroll through the Look of the Games samples of art in the quilt to Vologda lace, there is an hilarious (to me) description of how the lace is made. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Vologda lace on Sochi quilt
To be honest it seems more like a Google Translated text to me, and it is hilarious :-) Karen in Malta - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Vologda lace on Sochi quilt
This is a computer translation. I copied the Russian version and pasted it into Bing. It came up quite close to the English version at the Bosco site. If you could correct the nouns, the description isn't far off in a roundabout way. That cat is part of a tablecloth apparently housed in the Lace Museum, Vologda. I'm pleased to see that Vologda Lace has regained some prominence because of the Olympic Games in Sochi! -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] sochi
Noelene Translating Russian lace text to English certainly does produce hilarious results. You can see how the problem arises. The dictionary gives 2 or 3 words that might match the particular lace word in the Russian text. But the translator, or translator software, has no idea which word is closest, and picks the wrong one. Then the same process happens with the next weird lace word. The translator is thinking about machine weaving part of the time - jacquard loom - and the mistakes just proliferate. When I'm dealing with a google translation I always think make a picture of what they are trying to say, and pick a better word. What must the original text be trying to say. Languages don't translate word by word. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
