Re: [lace] Equivalence of Superior Threads' Kimono Silk

[Sue Babbs]

Sending a length to Brenda will also help other users of Brenda's books in 
the future, but If you can't wait to start the project while Brenda does her 
wraps measurement for you, then why don't you try wrapping it yourself.


If you have some, also wrap some (similar) silk that is in Brenda's book, 
and see how your wraps measurement of that compares with Brenda's.


Sue

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Re: [lace] Kleinhout stars

[Clay Blackwell]

Hi Sue,

I've sent you a reply with a photo attached.  Yes, I used the same thread the 
lace was made with, tied secure knots, and cut the ends short.  The result is 
very unobtrusive, IMO...

Clay

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> On Oct 28, 2015, at 7:41 PM, Sue Babbs  wrote:
> 
> Has anyone worked any of the Kleinhout stars?
> http://www.kleinhout.com/GB/lace-extras/
> 
> If so, can you give me advice on how best to attach the lace to the wood
> frames?
> 
> Do I use the thread that the lace is made in (which would show up against the
> frame) or one of those wretched invisible clear threads which are so hard to
> get to stay knotted?
> 
> Do I just attach at the points, and if so how do I hide the ends of the
> attaching thread?
> 
> Looking forward to hearing from someone who has already tackled these stars!
> 
> Sue
> 
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Re: [lace] Every week an edging or an insertion

[Sue Babbs]

You are amazing for doing this.  Thank you all very much

Sue 


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[lace] Scarf Thread Comparisons by Jane Atkinson

[Jeriames]

Dear Jane and all those interested,
 
Thank you, Jane.  This is valuable information to keep in our  archives.  
The Subject: lace-digest V2015 #105 gives no clue as to  subject.  Therefore, 
nearly impossible to look up.
 
But, IT CANNOT BE LOOKED UP!  Mail addressed to _lace@dont.panix.com_ 
(mailto:l...@dont.panix.com)  does NOT go to  our Arachne archives, Jane!!!  
 
Therefore, Avital (Webmistress), I have not trimmed Jane's message (below), 
 and am resending so it can be found by Jane's name and also by subject in 
the  future.
 
I recommend that those who have the following publications print a copy of  
this memo and the original one from Jsyzygy, and insert in the books.  It  
may come in handy in the future, even though you do not realize it today:
 
1.  Brigitte Bellon's "Kloppelmuster fur Schals und Tischlaufer" or  
similar by her
2.  Jane Atkinson's "Contemporary Lace for You"
3.  Brenda Paternoster's "Threads for Lace Comparison..." any  edition
 
It is my wish to keep telling how to save and retrieve valuable  free 
information on Arachne.  Memos about the Panix address have been  sent by me on 
a 
regular basis.  Please!  Remove Panix from your  computers!  Our archives, 
including recently-sent memos are  at:
 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html  

Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
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In a message dated 10/29/2015 9:22:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
j...@contemporarylace.com writes:

Dear  Ladies,

I've been watching the thread on scarf prickings with interest,  since it's
getting very confusing.  If you have access to the Lace  Guild magazine
'Lace', the next issue due out in a couple of days might  help.

Controlling ones own destiny when it comes to thread and pricking  size was
something I addressed in 'Contemporary Lace for You', and have  expanded 
upon
in a new article.  You can see from the contributions to  this debate that
some think the only answer is to get Brenda to test  everything for you - 
but
you can (and really should) do it for  yourself.

One way of getting a ballpark figure for yarn calibration is  to Tex it.  
Tex
is the international system used to find the linear  density (thickness) of
all yarns, of all fibres and plies - it is the  weight in grams of 1000
metres of yarn.  You can find your own by  measuring off 10m of your yarn,
weighing that on sensitive diet scales  (such as Smart Weigh pocket scales)
and multiplying the result by  100.

For my book, I examined and tested all the most useful yarns then  available
for larger-scale lace, calibrating them into several tables at  the back, 
now
available for study on my website,  www.contemporarylace.com.  But neither
Texing nor wrapping tell you  how a yarn will handle, feel, drape, work,
untwist, snap etc, for which you  need to test it (and my tables give you
information on that,  too).

For sampling, I included in my book graduated prickings which  allow you to
try out a small piece of lace, to test whole-, half-stitch and  ground with
14 pr of bobbins.  In the book, this goes up to 10mm  between the pinholes,
but I gave the guild prickings up to 14mm (about as  far as is sensible to
work with the majority of suitable knitting and  weaving yarns).  The
decision on how a yarn best works in lace is  yours - Goldilocks might say 
it
needs neither to be too loose nor too  tight, but just right!

If I want to know how to use a new yarn, I tex  it, look in my tables to see
what else is of similar thickness and which  dot-pitch (dp)/pricking size
suited that one, then make a sample in the  same sort of area to see how the
new one works.  It takes 30 secs to  tex, and a couple of hours to test; my
samples have travelled the world  with me so I always have examples to
compare with yarns I  encounter.

As an example of how this works, there is a silk scarf of  mine in the lace
exhibition currently at Whitchurch Silk Mill in the  UK.  I found a pretty
silk yarn online at KnitWitches Yarns, a Swiss  spun laceweight pure silk
2/12, 600m per 100gms, which I discovered to have  a tex of 160.  I make a
lot of linen lace in Bockens 16/2, which has a  similar tex, on a 10mm grid,
and I found this suited the silk,  too.

Testing it, I liked the way it behaved on bobbins and the result  it gave,
although I often find that when one makes a long piece with  continental
bobbins (where there is plenty of space to wind thick yarns),  yarns tend to
roll tight at one side and unravel at the other side.  I  can't now remember
which side that happened with the silk - it's all  according to whether it's
Z or S spun, but one quickly learns to re-twist  bobbins that are becoming
unravelled, or untwist those which seem  overspun.

I have been making scarves for well over 20 years, and have  tried various
lengths - I first copied a bought one of 4ft 6ins, and  decided that was too
short (unless you yourself are short, in which case  you 

[lace] Pattern

[Agnes Boddington]

I am looking for a pattern, can anyone help as to where/what book I can find
it?

It is a Honiton pattern of two dolpins by Caroline Biggins.

Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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Re: [lace] Pattern

[Susan Roberts]

Hi Agnes

I thin it's a Barry Biggins design and in one of his two books (a friend has
got mine at the moment so I can't check but I think it is in the Alphabet
one).  The Lace Guild should have both in the library

Best wishes
Susan
--
Susan Roberts
Newton-le-Willows, England
Website: www.susanroberts.info

> On 29 Oct 2015, at 16:24, Agnes Boddington 
wrote:
>
> I am looking for a pattern, can anyone help as to where/what book I can
find
> it?
>
> It is a Honiton pattern of two dolpins by Caroline Biggins.
>
> Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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[lace] Augusta Auction of Couture & Historic Fashions in New York

[Jeriames]

On Wednesday, Nov. 11 (Veteran's Day), the (Karen) Augusta Auction  Company 
is offering about 420 items of rare clothing and textile objects from  many 
American museum collections at an auction to be held in New York  City.  I 
think museums find it easy to raise cash from costumes that have  been 
donated "in good faith" that they will enhance exhibitions.   Unfortunately, 
museums usually have few costumes that can be viewed during  a visit to them, 
and auctions may be the reason why.  This can be a good  way to purchase a 
wedding gown, or the key materials for making one.
 
_www.augusta-auction.com_ (http://www.augusta-auction.com) 
 
The lots do not seem to have been numbered.  If you enlarge a photo,  there 
is a gold box at the top right that will get you back to the page  you were 
looking at.  Included are Irish crocheted garments, some tape  lace fashion 
items, and a Brussels lace wedding gown.  
 
It is fun to check your lace knowledge through auction  offerings.  I noted 
that a few captions were  incorrect.  
 
By looking at such sites, you learn about how lace was used in the  past.
 
The company promotes itself as North America's #1 Auction House for Couture 
 & Vintage Fashion, and is located in the state of Vermont.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

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RE: [lace] Pattern

[Agnes Boddington]

Hi Susan

Thank you for the info, will try the Lace Guild.

Agnes

 

From: Susan Roberts [mailto:su...@susanroberts.info] 
Sent: 29 October 2015 17:24
To: Agnes Boddington
Cc: lace@arachne.com
Subject: Re: [lace] Pattern

 

Hi Agnes

 

I thin it's a Barry Biggins design and in one of his two books (a friend has
got mine at the moment so I can't check but I think it is in the Alphabet
one).  The Lace Guild should have both in the library 

 

Best wishes
Susan
--
Susan Roberts

Newton-le-Willows, England 

Website: www.susanroberts.info


On 29 Oct 2015, at 16:24, Agnes Boddington 
wrote:

I am looking for a pattern, can anyone help as to where/what book I can find
it?

It is a Honiton pattern of two dolpins by Caroline Biggins.

Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

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Re: [lace] Every week an edging or an insertion

[Gon Homburg]

Thank you Anna. It is true we are busy with the edgings and insertion for a 
year now. And we hope to continue for at least 6 months and then we see if we 
can manage more.

Happy lacing

Gon Homburg from a grey Amsterdam, the Netherlands
gon.homb...@planet.nl



> Op 28 okt. 2015, om 23:34 heeft Anna Binnie  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Thank you Gon we now have 52 weeks of insertions. You have given us a whole 
> years worth of insertions, some new techniques, some variations on something 
> not so new and all inspiring.
> 
> Anna from a sunny Sydney
> 
> 
>> Again it is Wednesday and time to inform you about the insertion of this 
>> week.
>> It is published this afternoon on my website http://bit.ly/1MN8SBK
>> .
> 

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Re: [lace] Equivalence of Superior Threads' Kimono Silk

[Brenda Paternoster]

Yes, the website says it’s 0.16mm diameter - but is that lying flat,
stretched out on the reel or worked up in lace/embroidery?
It doesn’t say 100/2 so I guess that’s printed on the spool label, and
it’s not been stated anywhere whether they are using cotton count or metric
number or some other system of measurement.

Silk is a very accommodating thread and will spread out or spread out quite a
lot, especially of it’s not very firmly twisted.  That’s where w/cm is
such a useful measurement, I’m making a wrapping thread does get flattened a
bit, but that also happens when it is made into lace.

If you would like me to make a wrapping, to my tension, I am always happy to
receive  samples and the results will go int Addendum6 on my website.
For ordinary torchon type thicknesses about a yard or a metre is sufficient it
does;t need to be measured properly  For finer threads - and I suspect that
the Kimono silk will be finer - a bit more is appreciated; more wraps/cm needs
a longer length.

My postal address is
Brenda Paternoster
46 St Davids Road
Allhallows
Rochester
Kent  ME3 9PW
England  UK

Brenda

>  The thread's website
> says it is 0.16 mm in diameter... Maybe we can
> work out how many wraps we can get using that value.
> Thinking of all other lacemakers, I'd rather send
> Brenda a sample so she can work her magic for the
> next version of her book, and also send her
> samples of a famous Spanish cotton thread, "Hilo
> Japon閟" (which almost everyone calls "The
> Japanese Lady" thread) in sizes 70 and 80, so we
> can get the equivalence and wraps/cm of those as well.
> Brenda, please let us know how to send you
> samples and what information to include!

Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Equivalence of Superior Threads' Kimono Silk

[Jane Wright]

Thank you Brenda. I use your book constantly and have just reorganised my 
thread storage using w/cm. I have several spools which have lost their labels, 
carless of me I know. I used a ruler to find my own w/cm for them and have been 
able to file them appropriately. There is now a chance that they will finally 
be used!

Jand

On 29 Oct 2015 9:07 am, Brenda Paternoster  wrote:
>
> Yes, the website says it���s 0.16mm diameter - but is that lying flat, 
> stretched out on the reel or worked up in lace/embroidery? 
> It doesn���t say 100/2 so I guess that���s printed on the spool label, and 
> it���s not been stated anywhere whether they are using cotton count or metric 
> number or some other system of measurement. 
>
> Silk is a very accommodating thread and will spread out or spread out quite a 
> lot, especially of it���s not very firmly twisted.  That���s where w/cm is 
> such a useful measurement, I���m making a wrapping thread does get flattened 
> a 
> bit, but that also happens when it is made into lace. 
>
> If you would like me to make a wrapping, to my tension, I am always happy to 
> receive  samples and the results will go int Addendum6 on my website. 
> For ordinary torchon type thicknesses about a yard or a metre is sufficient 
> it 
> does;t need to be measured properly  For finer threads - and I suspect that 
> the Kimono silk will be finer - a bit more is appreciated; more wraps/cm 
> needs 
> a longer length. 
>
> My postal address is 
> Brenda Paternoster 
> 46 St Davids Road 
> Allhallows 
> Rochester 
> Kent  ME3 9PW 
> England  UK 
>
> Brenda 
>
> >  The thread's website 
> > says it is 0.16 mm in diameter... Maybe we can 
> > work out how many wraps we can get using that value. 
> > Thinking of all other lacemakers, I'd rather send 
> > Brenda a sample so she can work her magic for the 
> > next version of her book, and also send her 
> > samples of a famous Spanish cotton thread, "Hilo 
> > Japon���" (which almost everyone calls "The 
> > Japanese Lady" thread) in sizes 70 and 80, so we 
> > can get the equivalence and wraps/cm of those as well. 
> > Brenda, please let us know how to send you 
> > samples and what information to include! 
>
> Brenda in Allhallows 
> paternos...@appleshack.com 
> www.brendapaternoster.co.uk 
>
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[lace] Help please.

[Barrie]

Could someone please tell me what sort of lace this is ?  My friend was given
this beautiful piece  which is 7 1/2 inches wide x 62 inches long for her
birthday and we do not know anything about it.  Any information you could give
us would be a great help thank you.

Julie
>From New Zealand

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