[lace] Saxony Lace

[devonthein]

Personally, I think the size is quite comparable to late 19th century
handkerchiefs which is what it is supposed to be. Also, I join with Lyn in
feeling that there isn’t any religious theme. In fact, the lace is a tape
lace that looks almost like Hinjosa in that there are no brides or spaces
between the tapes. Also there are little loopty lous in some places. (I can
share better photos privately, but not publish them on the internet.)
Devon

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Re: [lace] Saxony Lace

[Sue Duckles]

I also would think it's a chalice cloth. It certainly strikes me as being one.

Sue in East Yorkshire

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RE: [lace] Saxony lace

[Lorelei Halley]

Devon
This is another frustrating museum photo. There is not enough detail to say
anything about its structure. There were some 17th c laces that looked like
tape but were actually continuous/straight. The large amount of what looks
like torchon ground is what makes me question the tape lace ID.   Gr !
Photos like this one are basically useless, except for insurance purposes, I
suppose. It's not your fault.
Lorelei

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There is a handkerchief located at
http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/215260?sortBy=Relevancef
t
=08.180.911offset=0rpp=20pos=1
It says it was made in Saxony, Germany. But it looks like a tape lace of
possibly Eastern European origin. An explanation says it is b

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RE: [lace] binche challenge

[Lorelei Halley]

I love the curly thread being included!

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I'm not the only one being challenged: http://tinyurl.com/zervkav But all
your advice made me change my mind.

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Re: [lace] Saxony Lace

[lacel...@frontier.com]

>  The cloth area did not need
>to be very big, and the lace is wide to look especially beautiful  Of

>course, there is no size reference in the picture

Ooops!  I didn't scroll down.  The item is listed at 15", so the fabric is 
about 7" and the lace 3" wide.  That is definitely not antique handkerchief 
dimensions.  I stick with my idea of it being a chalice cover.

Alice in Oregon

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Re: [lace] Saxony Lace

[lacel...@frontier.com]

There were tape laces being made in Germany as well as other eastern European
countries.  I couldn't see the picture well enough to take a guess as to
origin.
However -- it does look like an item made for church use -- namely, to cover
the chalice or the 'bread' when not being used.  The cloth area did not need
to be very big, and the lace is wide to look especially beautiful.  Of
course, there is no size reference in the picture so my guess of the size may
be wrong.  Handkerchiefs of the time were extremely large (15-20" of fabric)
so that proportion of lace would have made it into a tablecloth.  This is
more likely an altar accessory.
Alice in Oregon -- where we are eagerly anticipating three nice days before
the next storm


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 Sorry, I forgot and sent this by my AOL account. Here it is from Gmail.
There is a handkerchief located at
http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/215260?sortBy=Relevance
=08.180.911offset=0rpp=20pos=1
It says it was made in Saxony, Germany. But it looks like a tape lace of
possibly Eastern European origin. An explanation says it is
“Church� lace.
It is clearly a handkerchief and there is nothing about it that would suggest
ecclesiastical use. Is “Church� lace a term of art that anyone is
familiar
with, especially as it may relate to Saxony, Germany?
Devon


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[lace] El Molino thread

[Susan]

Thank you Brenda!  From the packaging, I would never have guessed this is 
Presencia thread.  And I had no idea the plies could be stripped.  Good to 
know.  It is very lustrous--rivaling flat silk--& would certainly brighten a 
linen or mixed fiber piece.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA 

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[lace] Saxony Lace

[devonthein]

Sorry, I forgot and sent this by my AOL account. Here it is from Gmail.
There is a handkerchief located at
http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/215260?sortBy=Relevanceft
=08.180.911offset=0rpp=20pos=1
It says it was made in Saxony, Germany. But it looks like a tape lace of
possibly Eastern European origin. An explanation says it is “Church” lace.
It is clearly a handkerchief and there is nothing about it that would suggest
ecclesiastical use. Is “Church” lace a term of art that anyone is familiar
with, especially as it may relate to Saxony, Germany?
Devon


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[lace] Saxony lace

[dmt11home]

There is a handkerchief located at
http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/215260?sortBy=Relevanceft
=08.180.911offset=0rpp=20pos=1
It says it was made in Saxony, Germany. But it looks like a tape lace of
possibly Eastern European origin. An explanation says it is “Church” lace.
It is clearly a handkerchief and there is nothing about it that would suggest
ecclesiastical use. Is “Church” lace a term of art that anyone is familiar
with, especially as it may relate to Saxony, Germany?
Devon

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[lace] Lappets

[Janice Blair]

Hi Catherine,I tried to send a private reply to your email but it was returned
as it was read as Spam at your end, so here it is.
Thank you for the compliment. If you look on my website, I have a needlelace
collar that I made a number of years ago and I was so new to the lace that I
did not realize I had to use a thinner thread for the net. Live and learn. I
made that one in Gutermann 100/3 silk and I am disappointed as it seems to be
more cream than white now. You probably have seen it before because I used
your flower designs for it and Liz's hankie corner for the centre back.
Janice Janice Blair Murrieta, CA, jblace.com

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Re: [lace] Thread question

[Brenda Paternoster]

Hi Susan

It sounds as though it might the same as Presencia El Molino - a 7 stranded
rayon embroidery thread, on a spool rather than in a skein, each of the
strands being singles yarn.
Presencia El Molono: 1S/7Z - 11 w/cm.  single strand 1S - 23 w/cm

Rayon is a very soft thread, not a lot of ‘body’ but would make a nice
gimp with cotton (or linen) as the main thread, but probably a bit soft and
limp if you tried to use it alone.  A single strand would be fine (mixed in
with other threads) for a particular colour, but a lot of faff to separate the
strands for individual use in a whole project.

Brenda


> On 10 Feb 2017, at 15:59, Susan  wrote:
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> Hello All!  Does anyone have any experience with El Molino, rayon especial
para labores, 25grs, Article 72, Lombard S.A., Barcelona??  It has a very soft
twist.  A friend plans to use it for a needlepoint project.  Has anyone used
it for large scale lace or gimp?  The colors are exquisite & it could make a
dreamy scarf.  Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA
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[lace] Thread Aurifil Mako 80

[Lyn Bailey]

Has anyone had any experience with this new thread?  Aurifil 50 is my go to
thread if it calls for Egyptian 60, as it has more hand, feels more like
linen.  So a size 80 of the same stuff is a welcome addition.  Anyone know the
wraps?  It’s not in Threads for Lace 6, and there are no appendices listed
on Brenda Paternoster’s site.  I will be purchasing some next time I order
threads from my Aurifil stockist, but that may be a while.

Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where we had less than 3”, 7.5 cm of
snow yesterday.  Cold, lots of sun today, always a very welcome albeit rare
phenomenon.  Tomorrow may be shorts weather again.

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[lace] Thread question

[Susan]

Hello All!  Does anyone have any experience with El Molino, rayon especial para 
labores, 25grs, Article 72, Lombard S.A., Barcelona??  It has a very soft 
twist.  A friend plans to use it for a needlepoint project.  Has anyone used it 
for large scale lace or gimp?  The colors are exquisite & it could make a 
dreamy scarf.  Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA 

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Re: [lace] Binche challenge

[Sue Babbs]

Neat solution to the piece you don't want to complete!

Sue 


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RE: [lace] binche challenge

[jo]

I'm not the only one being challenged: http://tinyurl.com/zervkav
But all your advice made me change my mind.


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Re: [lace] lappets

[Catherine Barley]

Janice your giraffe is exquisite!  Many congratulations and you must be 
delighted with the result.

I am faced with a similar problem in that I am currently working on an antique 
Point de Gaze pattern of a collar, given to me some 30 or so years ago by a 
Belgian lady.  At that time I didn't have the knowledge or expertise that I now 
have but always promised myself that I would work it one day.  I have been 
working on it for just over two years now and hope to complete it this year, 
but I have been faced with the same problem in that the threads that would have 
been used to work such a piece, are no longer available!  I have been using the 
Brok cotton threads which are also being discontinued and which worked well for 
needlelace but have had to resort to the Egyptian cotton threads which are 
produced in quite a variety of the different gauges that are required to work 
the Point de Gaze,  However, I find they don't have the 'body' of the antique 
threads and am doubtful that they would stand up to the 'wear and tear' that 
would be imposed on a collar?  I may wear it just the !
 once when finally completed and then have to resort to having it framed, as I 
would be devastated if the 170 Egyptian cotton that I have used for the fine 
net background should start to disintegrate into holes!

Does anyone know what brand of thread is currently used in France to make their 
Alencon lace or even if anyone does actually still make Alencon lace?

Catherine Barley
UK

Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com

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