Re: [lace] Thread Sizes & Elsie Gubser

[Devon Thein]

Her obituary claims it was written in the 1940s.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/archives/elsie-gubser-noted-weaver-dies-at/article_8f3f8c79-9cc8-5322-b855-a6c6a54838f6.html

Devon

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[lace] Thread Sizes & Elsie Gubser

[Adele Shaak]

I have a copy of Elsie Gubser’s “Bobbin Lace” - where she explains that
Brussels Lace must be made with very fine thread and that for her sample she
had used Knox’s 150/2 lace thread, which "will have to do until finer thread
is on the market.” Well, Mrs. Gubser - we’re still waiting!

I am not sure when this book was written - the Robin & Russ facsimile I have
was printed in 1982, but Mrs. Gubser is already listed as the author of
“Bobbin Lace” in an Old Lacers newsletter I have from 1969/1970. All I can
say is that the original was typed by hand on a manual typewriter - all 55
pages! - and that she suggests that to make prickings you should have a blue
print made of the pattern, and back it with lampshade parchment. So I’m
thinking it was maybe written in the 50s or early 60s. Does anybody know?

Adele
West Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)


> On Apr 2, 2018, at 7:38 PM, Elizabeth Ligeti.  wrote:
>
> I still have a couple of cones of it left – but in the finer threads –
100
> and 120 I think. Hmm! I Must get it out and use it up!!!  I believe it is
> Brockens thread.

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[lace] Lace Revival of the 1970's

[Elizabeth Ligeti.]

Yes Shirley T. and David,  I remember the  shop called The Lacemaker very
well!!
Goodness!  It was about the only place you could get lacemaking supplies. It
was very sad when it closed.

Before that, though, I used to buy cones of linen thread at a little shop in
the city where they kept it on a top shelf – and a very old man used to
climb up a ladder to get it, - and we were always so afraid he would
fall!
I still have a couple of cones of it left – but in the finer threads – 100
and 120 I think. Hmm! I Must get it out and use it up!!!  I believe it is
Brockens thread.

Then I discovered that Lace could be made with a cotton thread – and The
Lacemaker opened, - and as that was Much nearer to my home, I always shopped
there till it closed.

Now we rely on suppliers who come to Guild Lace Days.

Regards from Liz. In Melbourne, Oz.

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[lace] Color in lace

[lynrbailey]

Dyes have not been known for fastness until recently.  Linen shifts and shirts 
were the next to the skin layer, and were meant to be washed, so white would 
have to be the color of choice.  Remember that in Germany clothes have been 
boiled in recent memory.  How this explains the black embroidery on shifts in 
Elizabethan times I have no idea.  Nor the red silk worn by Puritans in places 
that could not be seen.  I did read that bit somewhere.  Notice also that there 
are no citations to sources in this post, so this is just my own thinking. It 
seems to be to be only sensible that color would not be put in lace that was to 
be washed regularly.  Color and metal for things that would not be washed would 
be fine.  I really don't think sumptuary laws had much to do with the color of 
lace, but I think that practical considerations were very important.  I suspect 
that even caps were subject to washing, although by the lady’s maid, not the 
laundress, and certainly handkerchiefs neede!
 d washing.  White lace would have been a more reliable investment.  Plus, if 
it were decorating something, white lace would match every color of silk, and 
colored lace would not.  So we find colors in fans, and, of course, in modern 
lace, 20th century lace, where color fastness was more reliable.  Just my two 
cents.

Lyn from Lancaster, Pennsylvania , USA, but presently in hot, sunny dry 
Arizona, hoping that the weather back home will be good by the time we get home.


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Re: [lace] hi res photo of Arpad Dekani lace?

[Jeri Ames]

Dear Devon,  
 
In the official book, Halas Lace Catalogue, on page 40 - English translation -
it tells about Arpad Dekani, b. 1861 - d. 1931.  Halas lace first appeared in
1902.  Between 1902 and 1906 every lace was designed by Dekani.  Between
1902 and 1911 they were sewn with coloured threads and sometimes decorated
with metallic yarn.  I have no idea how to provide a hi res photo, but can
mail the book to you, if that would be helpful.  This book contains photos of
about every lace made after 1902.  Paper stock is of high quality, so I think
you could select what you prefer and have a hi res photo made.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
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In a message dated 4/2/2018 10:27:34 AM Eastern Standard Time,
devonth...@gmail.com writes:

 
 I am writing the catalog entry for a piece of lace by Agnes Herczeg. Herczeg
said in an interview that she admired the work of Arpad Dekani, the first
designer of Halas lace, a Hungarian needle lace industry started in 1902.  It
would be nice to have a hi res photo of one of Arpad Dekani's laces to
accompany this entry. Does
anyone know of a hi res photo of his work that might be on Open Access, or
maybe be in private hands?
If I have to pay for the photo, I will just refer to him in the text. But if
there was one available for free, it would be nice to have it in the
catalog.   Devon

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[lace] Sad News - Lia Looga

[Penelope Piip]

Dear fellow Arachneans,
I received some sad news this evening - that Lia Looga died unexpectedly 
on Saturday, 31st March, 2018.
Lia was a self-taught tatter & bobbin lace-maker after she retired. Her 
husband, Robert, died a few years ago.


I have a copy of all the books that she published, so I might pull them 
out & have a look through them again.
She was the first Estonian lacemaker whom I met when our family visited 
Estonia in 2004.

I know that Lia will be sadly missed by the many lacemakers she befriended.

Penelope
Australian lacemaker in Tartu, Estonia


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Re: [lace] Colour in lace-radical or historically correct?

[Adele Shaak]

Historically linen was difficult to dye and to get the dye to stay. I think
that’s why the fabled bright yellow starch was so popular - you got a good
colour that mimicked gold, and because the dye was in the starch, every time
the lace was washed, it was re-coloured by the starch.

Adele

> I have always thought that the whiteness of lace was the result of the
> Protestant Reformation, sumptuary laws and laundry considerations as people
in
> Europe decided to wear washable body linen next to their skin and embellish
> the area around the neck and hands where the linen showed.
> Devon

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[lace] hi res photo of Arpad Dekani lace?

[DevonThein]

I am writing the catalog entry for a piece of lace by Agnes Herczeg. Herczeg
said in an interview that she admired the work of Arpad Dekani, the first
designer of Halas lace, a Hungarian needle lace industry started in 1902. As
part of my theory that today’s lace artists draw inspiration from the early
twentieth century artists and industries, I think it would be nice to have a
hi res photo of one of Arpad Dekani’s laces to accompany this entry. Does
anyone know of a hi res photo of his work that might be on Open Access, or
maybe be in private hands?
If I have to pay for the photo, I will just refer to him in the text. But if
there was one available for free, it  would be nice to have it in the
catalog.
Devon

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Re: [lace] RE: Colour in lace-Northamptonshire lace

[Diana Smith]

Dear Cathie 

It was brilliant wasn’t it! The visitors book was like a Who’s Who of the Lace 
world of the time.
I remember when Pat Rowley invited me, with my Northamptonshire lace research, 
to be a part of it my reaction was - Yes Please! The end results finally 
confirmed what I had always maintain that the lace industry in this county was 
equally as important as in Beds and Bucks. 
With the Westhope Group display being the icing on the cake, I think almost 
every aspect of Lacemaking was represented. I will certainly never forget your 
beautiful (the word doesn’t adequately describe it!) Snow Queen. 
It is so sad that after all the work that was put into the exhibition there is 
nothing now to be seen - everything is in storage who knows where!
With best wishes
Diana
PS. Your description of life in the late thirties/forties was great and most 
certainly brought back lovely memories for me - even dashing upstairs at 
bedtime with a stone hot water bottle to warm a rather chilly bed!

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[lace] RE: Colour in lace-radical or historically correct?

[DevonThein]

Jane’s point about historic lace in color is well taken. In fact, I was
privileged to take a tour of Spain in which we learned Frisado de Vallodolid,
and also saw practically all the pieces in Spain. This lace which was made in
the 16th and 17th centuries exclusively by nuns for church use was dazzlingly
colored and embellished with gold and silver.
I have always thought that the whiteness of lace was the result of the
Protestant Reformation, sumptuary laws and laundry considerations as people in
Europe decided to wear washable body linen next to their skin and embellish
the area around the neck and hands where the linen showed.
Devon

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Re: [lace] Colour in lace

[Catherine Barley]

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Subject : Re: [lace] Colour in lace

Is coloured lace as non-traditional as most people seem to think it is, though?

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There were most certainly examples of coloured lace produced in the East 
Midlands as Alan S. Cole found and mentions in his Report on Northampton, Bucks 
& Beds Lace-making in 1891.
When we were researching for the exhibition Art, Trade or Mystery - Lace and 
Lacemaking in Northamptonshire,  held in 1999 we found sheets of samples of 
coloured laces in the collection of Northampton Museums.

Diana in Northamptonshire.

Hi Diana

I well remember as one of the Westhope Group, helping to set up this exhibition 
in Northampton and what a success it was too!  The group played a large part in 
the exhibition and we were asked to make two pieces of lace each, one in white 
and one in colour, but both on the same theme.  My chosen theme was Hans 
Andersen Fairy Tales, with my Snow Queen panel being the white lace and The 
Little Mermaid my coloured piece (worked using stumpwork techniques).  I think 
Cynthia Voysey (a very well known Honiton tutor/author, worked a small coloured 
purse in Needlelace for this exhibition, but I could have been for one of  the 
other many other exhibitions the group displayed their work,  maybe the one at 
Pilkington's Glass?

I do seem to recall when teaching the C & G students at Camberley Adult 
Education Centre, that a small group visited the V & A and discovered a piece 
of coloured Honiton lace from way back?  It would seem that nothing is new and 
it's all been done before!

Catherine Barley


Catherine Barley Needlelace
www.catherinebarley.com 

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