Re: [lace] Acheological findings in Sydney.. Australia

[Lbuyred]

Brian,
In 1985 Australia issued a set of stamps with images from recovered shipwreck 
items.  One was a bobbin.  Were you already aware of that? I can send in image 
of the stamp if you need it.
Liz, Raleigh, USA

> On Jul 6, 2020, at 12:59 AM, Brian Lemin  wrote:
> 
> Whilst idly combing the net (like you do in COVID!) I have discovered 
> that they found bobbin fragments at a digging in Sydney rock (probably 
> years ago.
> 
> 
> Here is the thing.. all i know about UK bobbins and I do not have clue 
> about Oz bobbins!
> 
> 

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Re: [lace] Acheological findings in Sydney.. Australia

[Devon Thein]

Many thanks to Katrina for this information. I have long been interested in
this historical detail. In fact, Elena Kanagy-Loux followed up on it, and
discovered that the artifacts were being stored in the World Trade Center
on 9/11 and so are no longer in existence.
Interesting that the researcher thought the domestic activity of needlework
would create an appearance of gentility. I have always wondered if it
wasn't an indication that  every poor person in New York was doing
piecework for the garment industry all the time. But, I have nothing to
base that on.
Devon




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Re: [lace] Acheological findings in Sydney.. Australia

[Katrina Worley]

The reports from the Five Points archaeological excavations are online… In
going through the artifact inventory of the “Courthouse Block”, page 82
lists “lace bobbin fragments” and “lace bobbin all parts present” both
from the household analytical stratum, and described as
“biological/organic” and “bone/faunal”. The artifact catalog/object
numbers are 00985 and 00921.

The full list of reports are found at:
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/lpc/about/archaeology-reports-full-list.page

The artifact inventory I was scanning was this one:
http://s-media.nyc.gov/agencies/lpc/arch_reports/15.pdf
  (again, the listing
for the bobbins are on page 82 of the report)
This report: http://s-media.nyc.gov/agencies/lpc/arch_reports/5.pdf
  is an overview of
the interpretation of the site, and chapters 3 and 4 give an overview of the
textile finds.  On page 304 is a mention of the lace bobbin from feature AG,
and the suggestion that it represents “sewing activities not related to wage
earning” because of the other artifacts found in association with them.
Apparently the structure was a brothel that catered to middle and upper class
clientele and the interpretation is that the domestic activities of needlework
would create an appearance of gentility.

Given the huge library of reports, it would take some serious time to go
through them and find out anything more. However, with what I was able to
find, it does appear that two bobbins were found in the excavation and that
they were part of a needlework kit owned by a probable prostitute.

Katrina
kwor...@mac.com
--
History: special people in special places at special times
Anthropology: everyone else the rest of the time.


> On Jul 5, 2020, at 9:44 PM, Brian Lemin  wrote:
>
> BTW American readers, they have also uncovered bobbin stuff at "Five
> Points" excavation.  Anyone know about their findings?

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[lace] Acheological findings in Sydney.. Australia

[Brian Lemin]

Whilst idly combing the net (like you do in COVID!) I have discovered 
that they found bobbin fragments at a digging in Sydney rock (probably 
years ago.


Here is the thing.. all i know about UK bobbins and I do not have clue 
about Oz bobbins!


  Findings: The Material Culture of Needlework And Sewing  A Google
  book  Page 159.


Yep i have sent the an email to find out more.  They claim a piece of an 
Honiton was found..they have a pic of probably a south bucks, but more 
likely a continental bobbin.


We will see what comes of this.


BTW American readers, they have also uncovered bobbin stuff at "Five 
Points" excavation.  Anyone know about their findings?

-- 
Brian
Cooranbong. Australia

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