Re: [lace] Beginning Threads
It depends on the scale of the pricking you use - Presencia Finca 30 is a lot finer than DMC Cordonnet 30. Finca 20 would be a nearer alternative to Cordonnet 30 Handy Hands Lizbeth 20 or Anchor Artiste 20 are both very similar to Cordonnet 30. If a softer thread is acceptable then go for a Perle 8 although that won't take the punishment of constant reverse lacing that some beginners need to do. Equivalents to the finer Finca 30 are Venus 70 (not 80) or marginally finer is DMC Special Dentelles 80. Brenda I start students with #8 perlé and then go to Finca 30 (Spanish thread) which now comes in several colours or if they are a quick study and I want to use colour DMC fil Dentelle 80 or Venus 80. The last two come in many vibrant colours and small balls of 5 grams which don't break the bank if you want to use several colours in a piece. However, I don't know if these threads would be available to you. Suggest pestering your suppliers to stock them. Good luck! (snip) Lacemakers in my area used to start beginners with DMC Cordonet 30 thread, which used to come in many colors. Now it's available only in white and ecru, at least in the USA. I still have some spools of colored thread left, but it won't last forever. Besides, the beginners will want to get a supply of their own. What thread do you use with beginners? Has anyone found an alternate thread to DMC Cord.30? I have a few spools of Lizbeth thread, with varigated colors. This works for some patterns but not all. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.me.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Beginning Threads
Hi, Thank you for your e-mail and information. However, nowhere in my e-mail have I suggested that Finca 30 was the equivalent of Cordonnet 30. Only what I tend to use with my students. There is little difference between the DMC fil dentelle and the Venus even though one is 80 and one 70. Good lacemaking, Joepie It depends on the scale of the pricking you use - Presencia Finca 30 is a lot finer than DMC Cordonnet 30. Finca 20 would be a nearer alternative to Cordonnet 30 Handy Hands Lizbeth 20 or Anchor Artiste 20 are both very similar to Cordonnet 30. If a softer thread is acceptable then go for a Perle 8 although that won't take the punishment of constant reverse lacing that some beginners need to do. Equivalents to the finer Finca 30 are Venus 70 (not 80) or marginally finer is DMC Special Dentelles 80. Brenda I start students with #8 perlé and then go to Finca 30 (Spanish thread) which now comes in several colours or if they are a quick study and I want to use colour DMC fil Dentelle 80 or Venus 80. The last two come in many vibrant colours and small balls of 5 grams which don't break the bank if you want to use several colours in a piece. However, I don't know if these threads would be available to you. Suggest pestering your suppliers to stock them. Good luck! (snip) Lacemakers in my area used to start beginners with DMC Cordonet 30 thread, which used to come in many colors. Now it's available only in white and ecru, at least in the USA. I still have some spools of colored thread left, but it won't last forever. Besides, the beginners will want to get a supply of their own. What thread do you use with beginners? Has anyone found an alternate thread to DMC Cord.30? I have a few spools of Lizbeth thread, with varigated colors. This works for some patterns but not all. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.me.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Beginning Threads
Dear Joepie Although you didn't say Finca 30 was an equivalent to DMC 30, on the other hand you didn't say it wasn't, and it was an alternate thread to replace DMC30 that Alice was asking for. So I can quite see why Brenda was just making it clear that the two threads are different thickness and that patterns will need to be altered accordingly. Don't forget that these posts are read by lacemakers of all abilities, and it would be a frustrating shame for someone who had got it in their head that Finca 30 was a good substitute for DMC 30, only to find that it was working up too fine. Also for beginners or people who haven't used these threads before, DMC Fil a Dentelle 80 (30wpc) is actually about 10 percent thinner than the Venus 70 (27wpc), so if you are using a pricking where the DMC is towards being on the thick side, you may not find that Venus is a satisfactory substitute without enlarging the pricking a little. As always, although Brenda's Threads for Lace is an invaluable aid to lacemaking, it is still a good idea to work a sample for any new thread/major project combination. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Beginning Threads
Kathy Kirchner carries Venus. Lauren On 04/12/2010 1:03 AM, J-D Hammett wrote: Hi, I start students with #8 perlé and then go to Finca 30 (Spanish thread) which now comes in several colours or if they are a quick study and I want to use colour DMC fil Dentelle 80 or Venus 80. The last two come in many vibrant colours and small balls of 5 grams which don't break the bank if you want to use several colours in a piece. However, I don't know if these threads would be available to you. Suggest pestering your suppliers to stock them. Good luck! Good lacemaking, Joepie, UK From: lacel...@frontier.com Lacemakers in my area used to start beginners with DMC Cordonet 30 thread, which used to come in many colors. Now it's available only in white and ecru, at least in the USA. I still have some spools of colored thread left, but it won't last forever. Besides, the beginners will want to get a supply of their own. What thread do you use with beginners? Has anyone found an alternate thread to DMC Cord.30? I have a few spools of Lizbeth thread, with varigated colors. This works for some patterns but not all. Alice in Oregon ... Very cold but supposed to be no rain for a day or two. - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.872 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3296 - Release Date: 12/03/10 23:34:00 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Beginning Threads
Jacquie's comment is so right - although the wraps/cm measurement is very convenient for comparing thicknesses it doesn't tell you much about how a thread will work up. The number of plies, the direction (and firmness) of spin, and of course the type of fibre all contribute to how a thread works up. Experience does help, but working a sample is the only way to really know what a thread is like to work with and how the finished lace looks and feels. Brenda On 4 Dec 2010, at 14:44, laceandb...@aol.com wrote: As always, although Brenda's Threads for Lace is an invaluable aid to lacemaking, it is still a good idea to work a sample for any new thread/major project combination. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.me.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Beginning Threads
Lacemakers in my area used to start beginners with DMC Cordonet 30 thread, which used to come in many colors. Now it's available only in white and ecru, at least in the USA. I still have some spools of colored thread left, but it won't last forever. Besides, the beginners will want to get a supply of their own. What thread do you use with beginners? Has anyone found an alternate thread to DMC Cord.30? I have a few spools of Lizbeth thread, with varigated colors. This works for some patterns but not all. Alice in Oregon ... Very cold but supposed to be no rain for a day or two. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
