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I think that it is more likely after the opera singer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Lind The children's hospital in Norwich is also named after her as she gave charity concerts to raise money to found the hospital http://www.nnuh.nhs.uk/Page.asp?ID=307 Kind Regards Liz Baker On 13 May 2014, at 21:42, Sue Harvey 2harv...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Is it named after the nurse Jenny Lind? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Is it named after the nurse Jenny Lind? We had a children's hospital of that name in Norwich the nearest city to where I live and my daughter had an operation there at 18 months old. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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I believe it is named for the famous opera singer of that name. If you google the name, this pops right up. Clay Sent from my iPad Is it named after the nurse Jenny Lind? We had a children's hospital of that name in Norwich the nearest city to where I live and my daughter had an operation there at 18 months old. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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That type of fan is called a Jenny Lind. If you google Jenny Lind fan, there all sorts of images and information. Basically, instead of having a whole fan leaf spread across the sticks, each sticks has it's own feather-type shape attached separately. A fine thead is attached to the sticks to ensure that it opens to an approximate semi-circle and stops each stick flopping all over the place. Jean Nathan in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Dear Susan and all on Arachne, Some old spangles (sequins) dissolve in water. This is something I saw demonstrated at a Costume Society of America seminar conservation class presented by a professor from the Rhode Island School of Design. Spangles (sequins) were made of something like gelatin in the early 20th C.! Be sure to test one of each size or shape before saving them to re-purpose in an embroidery or lace that might require wet cleaning in the future. Leave to soak a while in warm water, as you would anything somewhat fragile you would not subject to the agitation of a washing machine. If they are plastic-based, they will be sensitive to heat from a pressing iron, which is something else to consider. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - In a message dated 5/11/2014 4:56:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, hottl...@neo.rr.com writes: The fabric is quite fine, perhaps China silk, appliqued with silvery spangles of various sizes shapes. The spangles will be re-purposed in an embroidery project but not until I get a better grasp on how the fan operates with regard to spacing the blades. Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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A friend who used to work as a tambour beader (she worked with sequins as well as with beads) tells the story of a colleague who once wore a dress decorated with old gelatine sequins - she became quite hot during the evening and obviously perspired quite bit and the end result was that her arms became stuck to the sequinned bodice! Brenda On 12 May 2014, at 13:01, jeria...@aol.com wrote: Some old spangles (sequins) dissolve in water. This is something I saw demonstrated at a Costume Society of America seminar conservation class presented by a professor from the Rhode Island School of Design. Spangles (sequins) were made of something like gelatin in the early 20th C.! Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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Hello All! Hope springs eternal! From time to time, I've entertained the idea of making a fan. What's not to like? They're girly, coy elegant. To that end, I have collected some fan sticks along my way. Yesterday, I found another vintage set that blew my socks off. I've uploaded photos of each to Flickr with a description. Each appear to be celluloid with a pressed design piercings but the latest set also has small steel (a bit rusty some are missing) insets. The fabric is quite fine, perhaps China silk, appliqued with silvery spangles of various sizes shapes. The spangles will be re-purposed in an embroidery project but not until I get a better grasp on how the fan operates with regard to spacing the blades. Since the shape is so pleasing, it might be nice to create lace as individual units that could be stiffened or appliqued to silk before attachment to the blades. Hey--a girl can dream, can't she? Any suggestions for using vintage sticks are welcom! e! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
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I'm obviously not very bright, but, having found the review of the book 'Blonde' in the Lace Guild magazine, I've just realised that the fan sticks mentioned are for a BRISE fan, a word I missed in Robin's post, which is made of several sections (a bit like bookmarks) placed on top of each other with a pivot hole through the bottom so they can be opened out. They are called sticks, but not in the sense we usually use the word because there's nothing of them showing below the leaf on the finished fan - a brise fan doesn't have a leaf. The perspex is merely a support for each piece of lace to make the sticks more rigid, not a skeleton for the whole fan. I've been puzzling over this since it was originally mentioned, wondering how you could use something that flimsy for a fan skeleton. Hope I wasn't the only thick one, who misunderstood. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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Jacquie wrote: Are you saying that basically you use normal fansticks, but use a clear material as well to widen the normally narrow bit that the fan is attached to? No, you don't see fan sticks at all. A brise fan doesn't have sticks in the sense that we usually use. Imagine piling several bookmarks that you've made on top of each other and then putting a pin down through near the lower tip. You can then fan out the bookmarks. That's what a brise fan is like. The problem is that we all usually make a semi-circular fan leaf, spread out the fan sticks and attach the leaf by some means or another to the top part of the splayed out sticks, leaving an uncovered part of the sticks visible below the leaf. A brise fan isn't like that. It's made up of separate sticks, normally painted or decorated in some way over the whole length, pinned through near the bottom so they can be fanned out. There's usually a fine cord running through near the top edge to restrict the amount the sticks can splay so that the top sides remain touching each other when the fan is opened. Originally I though as you did that the perspex or acetate was used as inconspicuous fan sticks with a semicircular leaf attached for display purposes. If you google brise fan, you'll see what they are. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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No, Jean! You were not alone--your posts (this and the later one in response to Jacquie's question) have been very enlightening for me. Thank you! Nancy, in Connecticut USA From: Jean Nathan j...@nathan54.freeserve.co.uk To: Lace lace@arachne.com Sent: Thu, September 23, 2010 3:22:54 AM Subject: [lace] Fan sticks - a brise fan doesn't have a leaf. The perspex is merely a support for each piece of lace to make the sticks more rigid, not a skeleton for the whole fan. I've been puzzling over this since it was originally mentioned, wondering how you could use something that flimsy for a fan skeleton. Hope I wasn't the only thick one, who misunderstood. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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Simply Exquisite! The time,effort, planning and love that has gone into producing an item of such beauty is amazing! 'A Thing of Beauty is a Joy Forever'. Catherine Barley Henley-on-Thames UK Jean Nathan wrote: What about these rather lovely hand-mad fan sticks for a tatted fan. Think we've seen them before. http://www.lecurieux.com/Frivolite/frivolite.htm Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3136 - Release Date: 09/14/10 23:34:00 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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The thought of using laminator film or the acetate sheet used for the front cover of comb-bound booklets for the not-intended purpose of fan sticks reminded me of other things we see another use for , such as the wire spiral from note books to keep bobbins secure on the pillow, and a battery operated drinks swizzler and thread reel centre to make an electric bobbin winder. I have an antique miser's purse and wanted to crochet or knit one from an old pattern, but the problem was finding two rings to slide up and down the centre part to open and close the slit through which coins are inserted and removed. Found the answer by chance 2 days ago when buying tap (faucet) washers in the plumbing department of my local DIY store - olives (think they're called ferrules in the USA) which are compression rings used to seal the joint in two pieces of pipe. They are available in several diameters 10mm (3 eigths of an inch) to at least 20mm (3 quarters of an inch) and quarter of an inch (1.4mm) thick, copper, which can be silver plated with silver plating repair paste, or brass (will also substitute for gold). As is usually the way, I've been looking for something suitable for a couple of years and came across these purely by chance. What else has anyone found another use for - I think Eve Morton used large jewellery making split rings to fit over the top of glass Christmas baubles to hold her lace decoration in place. http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/pblc/pattern.htm Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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If anyone wants to see the book I know that the Lace Guild have it in their collection I did a book review on it last year. It is nice to know when the fan sticks can be bought from Maureen E Yorks - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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What about these rather lovely hand-mad fan sticks for a tatted fan. Think we've seen them before. http://www.lecurieux.com/Frivolite/frivolite.htm Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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Absolutely stunning! Lauren Jean Nathan wrote: What about these rather lovely hand-mad fan sticks for a tatted fan. Think we've seen them before. http://www.lecurieux.com/Frivolite/frivolite.htm Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3136 - Release Date: 09/14/10 23:34:00 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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I find the idea of acrylic fansticks intriguing. Does anyone know who the teacher was and which book the pattern is in? I kept waiting and hoping someone would enlighten us! Sue Babbs - Original Message - From: Lorri Ferguson lorri...@msn.com They were carved/cut from sheets of acrylic. The pattern is in the book she has written, I can't remember the name. The acrylic was a type used for something common, but again I don't remember just exactly what - pattern making comes to mind. I hope this helps. Lorri From: lizl...@bigpond.com I noticed, at the Teachers showcase in Portland, (IOLI convention) there was a fan mounted on clear acrylic fan sticks. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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I don't remember which teacher it was, or the book she authored. But any one could 'draw a pattern' of a fan stick, and cut repeated copies of it. I do recall that her fan sticks were much wider than normal - they were shaped with a flower silouette of the flower featured in the fam behind each flower. She had cut repeated shapes (about 8?) from acrylic sheets similar to overhead projector sheets. There was a pivot hole cut in each one and a gromet fastener through the hole. I wonder if templet plastic (think quilting templets) would work. She did say it was cut with regular scissors/shears. Her plastic was clear, and she mentioned it being easy to obtain in sheets similar in size to printer paper. I believe it was the instructor with the Miricort Jewelry and special cord she used. I can't find my Convention materials just now but maybe someone else is better organized than I am. Lorri I find the idea of acrylic fansticks intriguing. Does anyone know who the teacher was and which book the pattern is in? I kept waiting and hoping someone would enlighten us! Sue Babbs - Original Message - From: Lorri Ferguson lorri...@msn.com They were carved/cut from sheets of acrylic. The pattern is in the book she has written, I can't remember the name. The acrylic was a type used for something common, but again I don't remember just exactly what - pattern making comes to mind. I hope this helps. Lorri From: lizl...@bigpond.com I noticed, at the Teachers showcase in Portland, (IOLI convention) there was a fan mounted on clear acrylic fan sticks. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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Sue Babbs sueba...@comcast.net wrote: I find the idea of acrylic fansticks intriguing. Does anyone know who the teacher was and which book the pattern is in? I kept waiting and hoping someone would enlighten us!- I bought the book at convention this summer. It's Blonde by Lia Baumeister-Jonker and Christa van Schagen Zeulevoet. Christa is the teacher mentioned, and she designed and worked the fans on clear acrylic blades. The patterns are Pattern 23: Brise fan (reminds me of a feather) and Pattern 24: Brise fan Roses, and they're shown on the cover of the spiral-bound book. The fansticks template is in the instructions for #23. I don't remember which vendor I bought it from, most likely Lacy Susan but I also bought books from Holly van Sciver and Maria Provencher (and possibly Unique Expressions) and it could have been any of them. Robin Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
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They were carved/cut from sheets of acrylic. The pattern is in the book she has written, I can't remember the name. But any pattern would do, you could easily draw one up yourself. the acrylic was a type used for something common, but again I don't remember just exactly what -pattern making comes to mind. They were also much wider than normal fan stick to compensate for the flexability of the acrylic. I am not sure just what Perspex is or what it would compare to in the USA, I will try to ask Helen next time I see her. I hope this helps. Lorri From: lizl...@bigpond.com I noticed, at the Teachers showcase in Portland, (IOLI convention) there was a fan mo8unted on clear acrylic fan sticks. Clever idea, as they did not show through the lace. I wonder if they were hand carved from Perspex, - or does anyone know if they are commercially available? Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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I noticed, at the Teachers showcase in Portland, (IOLI convention) there was a fan mo8unted on clear acrylic fan sticks. Clever idea, as they did not show through the lace. I wonder if they were hand carved from Perspex, - or does anyone know if they are commercially available? Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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Thanks to all who sent me contacts for the fan sticks I am looking for. I am checking them all to see what I can find. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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I collect fans - in any condition and of all types from any country. Must have over 100. Having sticks made or buying ready made might be beyond the pocket of some, but that's no reason not to make and mount a fan. I carefully remove the leaf from those old ones in poor condition - the threads of woven fans usually give way along the creases. Currently they're all stored flat between sheets of acid free tissue paper, but the plan is to conserve (rather than restore) them in their present state by mount them on muslin something similar for stability. Some are really pretty with painted scenes, lace or sequins. If I have a set of sticks with good guard sticks, but poor intermediates, and another of similar size with god intermediates, but only one or broken guard sticks, combine the two to make one good set of sticks - Ann Collier does this all the time. Plastic Spanish fan sticks come in a few sizes, but the most popular are the ones with sticks about 10 inches long. There are very few patterns to fit this size. You can't usually resize a pattern because you not only have the outer curve and overall size to consider, but the inner curve complicates matters. There's probably a call for a lot of patterns of different types of lace in this size if someone has the skill time and inclination to produce a book. Neutral sticks are often better to show off the lace, and the cheap Chinese paper fans have plain bamboo sticks which are the same thickness all the way up, with the guard sticks gradually increasing in width. These can be cut down and sanded to a suitable length, and will then fit anything from the smallest leaf to one that's the same size as the original, and the diameters of the inner and outer curves don't matter. You can paint the sticks if you want, but the natural bamboo looks fine with most laces. The only problem is that there might be too many intermediate sticks for the design used. They can be broken out easily, but that leaves the rivet joining them loose. It's difficult, but you can find very fine nuts and bolts to replace the rivet and paint the heat of the bolt (at the front) with coloured enamel to disguise what it is. Alternately, if the fan is going to be kept open for display, winding thread around the rivet at the back where it won't show will keep the sticks tight. Not ideal after all the work put into the fan, but as a last resort if you really want to make the fan and just can't find sticks you can afford. I've also repaired intermediate sticks where the bottom is mother of pearl, bone or ivory and the top thin wood by using the intermediates of Chinese bamboo and paper fans as replacements for the broken wood. If the broken intermediate is bone or ivory, the break will be behind the lace and you have both pieces, a small piece of tissue paper wrapped round the stick and soaked (only just) in superglue will usually hold it and is virtually invisible. A right-hand cleanly broken guard stick (where the back won't show because it will be at the back) can be repaired with a thin piece of card to act as a splint after sticking the broken edges together. A hairline crack will be visible on the outer side, but if it's patterned it shouldn't show. A left hand one can be repaired in the same way and shouldn't show from the front because the lace will be stuck to it. Bone will absorb water, so don't wash them. I've tried the recommended whiting, lemon juice and renaissance cream, but find the best is to just wipe plain bone with a damp cloth; for clean fancy ones I slightly dampening a tooth brush and quickly scrub. Dry quickly with a clean cloth. It's usually the crevices which are grimy. Mother-of-pearl is made up of fine pieces stuck together with and a stick will disintegrate if it gets wet. They usually don't need cleaning. I've made three fans - a small torchon one on Springett's plastic sticks, a Bruges one on Chinese bamboo sticks and an edgeing with beads mounted onto wooden Spanish sticks (the type which usually has a piece of cloth around the top edge and a postcard stuck to the wooden sticks). For the last one I removed the postcard, scrubbed the colour off (it was only water colour) and sprayed the sticks red with car enamel. The curved edging is white torchon with small red beads. After spending a few years working on Lace Guuild Assessments, I'm currently working on the Bruge-type (not true Bruges) fan from Veronica Sorenson's 'Modern Lace Design' which was the first lace I saw in a book in the 1980's, and which made me want to make lace in the first place. I'm making it in pale colours rather than black, without gimps and with just one filling. This will be mounted on either black or natural bamboo sticks because of the small inner curve. In spite of all the fan sticks I have, I still haven't got a set which will match the inner curve. Just my experiences. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To
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Alice wrote I suggest you go to Lacefairy on the web. She has four sources listed with the one in the USA being John Aebi of Indiana. He does not have a webpage that I can find, but there is an email address listed. I can vouch for John Aebi's fan sticks. They are gorgeous. He makes some to fit Christine Springetts fan patterns. Contact him with the size of sticks you need. Jane O'Connor New Lenox, IL If you don't laugh at trouble, You won't have anything to laugh at when you are old. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fellow Spiders, I'm looking for sources for doll size fan sticks or a fan frame, approximately 2.25 inches in length to be in scale with a 19 inch French fashion doll. I have Ann Collier's book Lace in Miniature but would also appreciate locating other fan patterns suitable for dolls. Sue in NJ, USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sorry to wait this long with an answard, when you mean to clean them, is it to get them white? if so it can't be done les an expert to do it, if they are very old they will be yellowich, becourse of that time they couldn't get the bone realy white, so with the time the tallow that is in the tiny pores in the bone will turn the fan yellowish, to remowe the leaf I carefully would do this with a racerblade, but to night I am going to a bone and horn class, I will get some more information to you about the cleaning Dorte, from a windy colder wether http://www.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/dorte_zielke/my_photos - Original Message - From: peter greenway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:13 PM Subject: [lace] Fan Sticks Dear Lacers, I have found some very old fan sticks - the leaf has fallen to pieces, so I want to clean the guards and sticks which appear to be made of ivory or bone (not wood) to use again - any ideas about how to clean them, also how to remove scraps of leaf still sticking to the sticks. Many thanks for your help Kind regards Margaret Greenway - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear Margaret, could you find in UK the cleanig-material for porcelain-doll? This is also possible to use for bone-sticks. Otherwise if you come to Germany I can give you the adress from the specialist for ivory, mother-in-pearl and all such materials. He lives ear Bremen. And I myself sent him my fans allways by post. Hope this helps. Greetings from frosty but still sunny Hamburg in Germany Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear Lacers, I have found some very old fan sticks - the leaf has fallen to pieces, so I want to clean the guards and sticks which appear to be made of ivory or bone (not wood) to use again - any ideas about how to clean them, also how to remove scraps of leaf still sticking to the sticks. Many thanks for your help Kind regards Margaret Greenway - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jean and the spiders, I met kleinhout last year at the NEC and had a fantastic time with these people - they are passionate about lace and have some excellent lace 'things'. It was from them that I got my green horseshoe gizmo. Any spiders who are going on Sunday - fingers crossed, Annette and I will be going (Annette is abit under the weather but I think it will require plague to keep us away) on Sunday so any spiders out there who want to meet up for a cup of coffee and a sticky bun then shout. You'll know it's me because I'll be taking pictures with my phone to email to my other half to prove I'm there as he had never heard of lots of lacemakers gathering together to buy things. But, then he'd never met a lacemaker before. Liz In a message dated 11/27/2003 4:17:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was just having a look to see if Kleinhout from the Netherlands is going to be at the NEC this weekend - just my luck, they were at NEC last year when I went to Havant, and they were at Havant this year when I'm going to NEC - when I spotted the word 'Fans' on the left hand side of the screen. They're now doing 6 sets of wooden (pear and maple) fan sticks in various sizes at very reasonable prices and a simple fan display stand. English version: http://www.kleinhout.com/GB/fans/ Usual disclaimers - no connection with them, just always been satisfied in the past. Jean in Poole Regards Liz Beecher I'm A HREF=http://journals.aol.com/thelacebee/thelacebee;blogging/A now - see what it's all about - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
