[lace] Lace eye candy
Thank you Sue for the explanation! Very artsy & it surely shakes up the concept of "what is lace?". Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace eye candy, salt water, wet cleaning unique laces, conservation, long answer
In the interview I had with Mme Bonniol, via internet, about her salt.lace I don’t ask how to clean or if she make pieces to wear in such way. Why all works I saw were pieces for „decorate“ not to wear. And that one couldn’t clean such works it’s clear looking at them. In my opinion these are works made for now not for eternity as lots of todays art works are. This is art not for use like a collar and so we must think about in an other way. The only possibility to conserve them would be a showcase. About the jewelry or bookmarks or pieces for decoration all of them must be starched to keep dust and such things away. You can’t clean them. Have a look at some of my works shown on Lorelei’s website than you understand whyLace works make for hanging on a wall are well protected in a frame but it needs also some caution to do so. This would be a longer writing to explain. > In brief, this is done only to new laces by an artist whose first > consideration is to make something that is not normal. That’s right. > Is the artist using > materials other than linen, cotton, silk and wool? Yes, she does but no clothes, as far as I know. > Does this French lace maker sell items to be worn? And it wouldn’t be possible such a piece is more thick than lace we are used. And the surface isn’t smooth. > She gave me a small bobbin lace flower she made with colored metallic > threads, all of which appear to be synthetics. Very precious to me. Ilske Jeri, this piece too is starched you don’t need clean it if you use it regularly. Hope my explanation are helpful. If there are more questions don’t hesitate to ask me. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace eye candy
Hello Ilske and everyone Thank you for the clarification, Ilske! The effect really is remarkable. When someone thinks "outside the (lace) box" in this way, it is a pleasure for the rest of us :) On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 4:40 AM, Ilske Thomsenwrote: > M. Th. Bonniol doesnât âbathâ old lace in salt water. She creates laces, > with âbig holesâ and let it lay in the salt water on the place she lives a > part of the Mediterranean Sea. The salt form crystals in the gaps of the > lace. Astonishingly those crystals stay on the lace. > These are really remarkable works. > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace eye candy, salt water, wet cleaning unique laces, conservation
> > Some of you know that many 20th C. > sequins were made of gelatin. They, also, melt away in liquids. This > means: if you buy vintage sequins, test them in water before attaching to > lace. Gelatine sequins will dissolve in perspiration! I have heard a sorry tale about a dress with a lot of gelatine sequins attached, the wearer got hot, and the sleeves and bodice of the dress stuck to each other! Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lace eye candy, salt water, wet cleaning unique laces, conservation
Thank you for the salt-infused lace explanation, Ilske. In brief, this is done only to new laces by an artist whose first consideration is to make something that is not normal. Is the artist using materials other than linen, cotton, silk and wool? How will this lace be cleaned in the future, or is it only for display in the short term? For those of you committed to the use of traditional threads If you want it to be possible for your heirs to see and hold what you made - please recognize the difference. Consider the problems museum conservators and restorers of laces face every day when they try to prevent deterioration and prepare laces for exhibition. Anything like salt crystals on lace would need to be stored in a completely different storage area/container than customary lace storage in a museum. This lace must not be exposed to liquids! This is not a totally unique problem. Some of you know that many 20th C. sequins were made of gelatin. They, also, melt away in liquids. This means: if you buy vintage sequins, test them in water before attaching to lace. Does this French lace maker sell items to be worn? If so, wearers would have to avoid damp and rain - just as was done when heavily-starched standing lace collars were worn in the Renaissance period. Does she give wearing and care instructions with each piece she makes?? Readers: please understand this is an *intellectual discussion*, and not me picking on Ilske. Ilske and I are friends who look for each other at each OIDFA Congress. We met through Arachne in 2003. This Summer Ilske and I spent quite a bit of time with each other in Slovenia. She gave me a small bobbin lace flower she made with colored metallic threads, all of which appear to be synthetics. Very precious to me. Ilske knows not to use glue. There is a small gem *sewn* to the center, and the pin on back is sewn in place. If if it ever needed wet cleaning, I would wash it in the traditional manner I have taught all of you - a shallow pan of distilled water. If it needed a "boost" I would use ORVUS, because it is the gentlest soap in my studio. The flower is shaped in 2 layers. To dry, I would gently shake the flower, dry the metal pin as much as possible with a soft cloth, then shape the lace petals and lay the flower on the clean counter in my kitchen to dry. It is very lacy, so it would not take long. Some of us have very old laces in our private collections, and some have very new laces made by friends. Many of you participate in the bookmark or holiday ornament lace exchanges sponsored by Arachne. If you have small items like the bookmarks, they may get soiled while in use. You treasure the friendships you have made during these swaps, and I hope you will be able to wet clean them using the advice given on Arachne. If you have young people in your home, may I suggest you invite them help you wet clean lace? In the current period of history, they usually only understand using washing machines and dryers to clean textiles. You probably have taught them how to cook enough to prevent starvation. This is just an extension of your good intentions for the lace you own and something that the young people will remember years from now. If they go on to use or wear laces you made, they will be more careful about exposing inherited laces to dangerous conditions. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center - In a message dated 9/17/2016 7:41:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ilske.l.thom...@t-online.de writes: M. Th. Bonniol doesnât "bathâ old lace in salt water. She creates laces, with "big holesâ and let it lay in the salt water on the place she lives a part of the Mediterranean Sea. The salt forms crystals in the gaps of the lace. Astonishingly those crystals stay on the lace. These are really remarkable works. Those being able to read German could find an article I wrote about her and her salt-lace about two years ago. Ilske in Hamburg - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace eye candy
M. Th. Bonniol doesn’t „bath“ old lace in salt water. She creates laces, with „big holes“ and let it lay in the salt water on the place she lives a part of the Mediterranean Sea. The salt form crystals in the gaps of the lace. Astonishingly those crystals stay on the lace. These are really remarkable works. Those being able to read German could find an article I wrote about her and her salt-lace about two years ago. Ilske in again very hot Hamburg - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace eye candy
Why should any lace be bathed in salt water? Have professional conservators and restorers approved this "treatment"? This is a simple reminder that I "preach" to be very careful about exposing your precious laces to chemicals and minerals in water drawn from private wells and public water supplies. Please remember the free conservation and restoration advice given to you on Arachne for 20-plus years, which came from training seminars at some of America's foremost museums. Very few special textile sites have someone who has learned from the best textile experts, and have a stack of books on the subject available for consultation. Jeri Ames in Maine USA Lace and Embroidery Resource Center In a message dated 9/16/2016 2:12:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, susan.voss...@gmail.com writes: Hi Susan, The lace is made normally then immersed in sea water at the local salt works. It was Marie-Thérèse Bonniol who first thought up the technique - Denise, of the site you mention, learnt it from her - and you can see the various stages here: http://artetdentelle.free.fr and go to Dentelles cristallisées dans le sel. The rest of her work is worth looking at too - I love her creations! Sue from Montélimar - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Lace eye candy
Hello All! While browsing the embroidery pages at mamiloucreations.com, I stumbled upon a link to zebulons.e-monsite.com. There are some interesting bobbins as well as pictures of lace labeled "sel". My fading language skills didn't help so I'm not sure whether the lace is actually made with salt crystals or with faceted seed/bugle beads. Way cool. I had not seen this site before so hope this is not a rerun. Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA Sent from my iPad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/