Taming thread reels - was RE: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins (Wonder Tape)
Sue Babbs wrote: Bags of threads get awfully tangled very easily, if you can't fasten off the end And Robin P wrote: But be warned, a bag of threads might have a problem. The tape doesn't easily move past the tape on another spool--it wants to stick to its other self. It should be okay, but some pieces might pull off when you rummage through the bag, or some spools may hide because they're stuck to others. Ah, for keeping reels of thread all together, tangle-free, in a bag, I use Thread Socks http://www.cottonpatch.co.uk/acatalog/Thread_Socks.html which work well for me. Margery. = margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Hertfordshire, UK = - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins
our teacher in a lace class today suggested using double sided tape to help hold the metallic threads in place. Unless you are using really small lengths I don't see how this would help. The problem with metallic threads is usually in keeping the hitch on the head, rather than keeping the thread on the bobbins. And if you have such a tiny amount that there isn't enough thread to hold itself on the bobbin, I wouldn't think that double sided tape would hold the thread to the bobbin securely enough to hold it if the hitch does come off as you are tensioning. This is one of those times I would use a knot. So long as you use a slip knot, all you need to do to remove the thread from the bobbin is to pull on the short end, and the knot will open. To keep the hitch in place with metallic and other thick threads, quite a lot of UK (and probably worldwide) lacemakers use the tiny sprung hair clips over the thread on the neck of the bobbin. Personally I don't, as I have found that the awkwardness of them being there slows me down much more than redoing the occasional hitch. Jacquie in Lincolnshire. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins
There is another kind of tape which I find useful for taming those wild fibers that don't want to hold a hitch... It is called, Hugo's Amazing Tape, and does not have any adhesive at all. Instead, it is a stretchy, clear film which sticks to itself when stretched. So a wrap around the threads on a bobbin will keep them in place, and the tape can be reused over and over, rarely ever wearing out. Some of our favorite vendors carried it a few years ago, but I don't think I've seen it lately. Still, I suspect you can google it and find it on the internet. Clay On 10/9/2010 9:26 PM, Marji Sakievich wrote: I don't know if this has been suggested but our teacher in a lace class today suggested using double sided tape to help hold the metallic threads in place. She said that the bobbins for that would need to be designated for that use and you could easily replace the tape when it's not tacky anymore. Anyone else ever tried this? Marji - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins
I think this may be the same as the Amazing Wonder Tape, which I have just bought from Clotilde: http://www.clotilde.com/detail.html?prod_id=204criteria=Amazing+Wonder+Tape I haven't even tried using it yet, but thought it might be good for keeping thread on spools, especially where the spools don't have any means of fastening the thread. Bags of threads get awfully tangled very easily, if you can't fasten off the end Sue - Original Message - From: Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net To: Marji Sakievich marjidee...@yahoo.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins There is another kind of tape which I find useful for taming those wild fibers that don't want to hold a hitch... It is called, Hugo's Amazing Tape, and does not have any adhesive at all. Instead, it is a stretchy, clear film which sticks to itself when stretched. So a wrap around the threads on a bobbin will keep them in place, and the tape can be reused over and over, rarely ever wearing out. Some of our favorite vendors carried it a few years ago, but I don't think I've seen it lately. Still, I suspect you can google it and find it on the internet. Clay On 10/9/2010 9:26 PM, Marji Sakievich wrote: I don't know if this has been suggested but our teacher in a lace class today suggested using double sided tape to help hold the metallic threads in place. She said that the bobbins for that would need to be designated for that use and you could easily replace the tape when it's not tacky anymore. Anyone else ever tried this? Marji - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins
Yes, it's the same tape. The price may seem high, but a roll lasts forever! It comes in two widths, and the narrow width is what I use with my bobbins. Clay On 10/10/2010 1:06 PM, Sue Babbs wrote: I think this may be the same as the Amazing Wonder Tape, which I have just bought from Clotilde: http://www.clotilde.com/detail.html?prod_id=204criteria=Amazing+Wonder+Tape I haven't even tried using it yet, but thought it might be good for keeping thread on spools, especially where the spools don't have any means of fastening the thread. Bags of threads get awfully tangled very easily, if you can't fasten off the end Sue - Original Message - From: Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net To: Marji Sakievich marjidee...@yahoo.com Cc: lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins There is another kind of tape which I find useful for taming those wild fibers that don't want to hold a hitch... It is called, Hugo's Amazing Tape, and does not have any adhesive at all. Instead, it is a stretchy, clear film which sticks to itself when stretched. So a wrap around the threads on a bobbin will keep them in place, and the tape can be reused over and over, rarely ever wearing out. Some of our favorite vendors carried it a few years ago, but I don't think I've seen it lately. Still, I suspect you can google it and find it on the internet. Clay On 10/9/2010 9:26 PM, Marji Sakievich wrote: I don't know if this has been suggested but our teacher in a lace class today suggested using double sided tape to help hold the metallic threads in place. She said that the bobbins for that would need to be designated for that use and you could easily replace the tape when it's not tacky anymore. Anyone else ever tried this? Marji - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins
Sorry for fogetting to trim my last posting. I thgouht I had Sue Babbs - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins
It has a generic name for packing, that seems incongruous at first for a substance that is clear and self-adhesive. Something-twine? Yes, wonderful stuff, hadn't thought of it for around a bobbin. Good idea. On 10/10/10, Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, it's the same tape. The price may seem high, but a roll lasts forever! It comes in two widths, and the narrow width is what I use with my bobbins. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins
That generic packing stuff may be thinner, and harder to work with on bobbins. The packing stuff I'm familiar with is like a giant roll of plastic wrap for food. This tape stuff is probably four-times thicker, and a lot more sturdy... it hold up to a lot of stretching and releasing. Clay On 10/10/2010 2:17 PM, bev walker wrote: It has a generic name for packing, that seems incongruous at first for a substance that is clear and self-adhesive. Something-twine? Yes, wonderful stuff, hadn't thought of it for around a bobbin. Good idea. On 10/10/10, Clay Blackwellclayblackw...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, it's the same tape. The price may seem high, but a roll lasts forever! It comes in two widths, and the narrow width is what I use with my bobbins. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins
There's another type of tape which might be interesting - 3M Vetrap Bandage Tape made for horses' legs. It's not sticky, but clings to itself. Trouble is it comes in large rolls which might keep a lacemaker supplied for several lifetimes G. Margery. = margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Hertfordshire, UK = -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Clay Blackwell Sent: Sunday 10 October 2010 20:15 To: bev walker Cc: Sue Babbs; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins That generic packing stuff may be thinner, and harder to work with on bobbins. The packing stuff I'm familiar with is like a giant roll of plastic wrap for food. This tape stuff is probably four-times thicker, and a lot more sturdy... it hold up to a lot of stretching and releasing. Clay - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins
Hi all, A group could get together and share ??? Good lacemaking. Joepie, East Sussex, UK -- From: Margery Allcock margerybu...@o2.co.uk Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 8:52 PM To: lace@arachne.com Subject: RE: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins There's another type of tape which might be interesting - 3M Vetrap Bandage Tape made for horses' legs. It's not sticky, but clings to itself. Trouble is it comes in large rolls which might keep a lacemaker supplied for several lifetimes G. Margery. = margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Hertfordshire, UK = - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins (Wonder Tape)
Sue Babbs sueba...@comcast.net wrote: I haven't even tried using it yet, but thought it might be good for keeping thread on spools, especially where the spools don't have any means of fastening the thread. Bags of threads get awfully tangled very easily, if you can't fasten off the end I've used Wonder Tape for a variety of things and for some things it's great. It does have limitations, though. When I tried it on bobbin necks I had trouble getting such a short piece of WT to stick to itself properly. However, others may have better luck. It does work well for keeping thread on spools. But be warned, a bag of threads might have a problem. The tape doesn't easily move past the tape on another spool--it wants to stick to its other self. It should be okay, but some pieces might pull off when you rummage through the bag, or some spools may hide because they're stuck to others. I tried using WT to keep sets of unbound magazines intact on library shelves, and that definitely does not work well. Such a volume can not be pulled off the shelf if it's between other such wrapped volumes. Robin Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Tying thread on bobbins
Dear Friends, I only ever tie my gimps on to the bobbins. Like Bev I never skimp on thread and use it to anchor the bobbin (never dropped one yet in private or public) I tie the gimps because they are usually shorter and also I tend to use that vintage Rayon (wood pulp fibre) thread which is very slippery. On the rare occasion that a thread is down to its last few inches and I KNOW it can make it, I will tie a further few inches of any old thread on to it to give it the extra length. Works for me David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins
I don't know if this has been suggested but our teacher in a lace class today suggested using double sided tape to help hold the metallic threads in place. She said that the bobbins for that would need to be designated for that use and you could easily replace the tape when it's not tacky anymore. Anyone else ever tried this? Marji From: Janice Blair jbl...@sbcglobal.net To: lace lace@arachne.com Sent: Fri, October 8, 2010 5:33:08 PM Subject: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins Adele wrote: But it's funny this topic came up just now, because only this morning I tied a thread onto a bobbin. Why? Because it's a gimp going around a little half-stitch circle, and I know I'm only going to use a couple of inches of thread, and I didn't want to waste three or four times that by having to wrap the thread around the bobbin enough times that it wouldn't come undone on its own. It's a thick thread (DMC Broder Speciale #16) and would need quite a few wraps to make it stay put. This is good time to use the hackle plier tool. I use them when having short lengths of gimps. I usually fill one bobbin with the gimp thread and attach the other end to the tool. I don't toss my leftover thread out. We collect spare thread, and it is amazing how quickly it mounts up. One of our lace guild members makes quilted hearts that are given to people in hospital and uses the thread for stuffing. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Tying thread on bobbins
Hi All, I tie my thread on my bobbins, for three reasons. * Demonstrating at my favorite park (Goose Lake Prairie State Natural Area) in Morris, Illinois, I am sometimes in the Cragg Cabin. That cabin has cracks in the floor between the floor boards and if I drop a bobbin or a tool for that matter, it is gone. * Working on my deck in the summer, my deck has cracks between the boards, and if I drop a bobbin, it is hard to retrieve it. * Demonstrating anytime, anywhere; I hate to put my butt in the air, looking for my bobbins, (all right stop laughing! :-)) so I prefer to pull my bobbin back into play by the thread, kind of like the fishing line. Tying on just makes sense for me. Susie Susie Susie Johnson, Vice President and Newsletter Editor Member L.A.C.E., I.O.L.I., Arachne List Morris, Illinois cjohnson0...@comcast.net http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org http://home.comcast.net/~cjohnson0969/home.html [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Tying thread on bobbins
And I would call that a very smart exception to the rule!! Clay On 10/8/2010 4:13 PM, C Johnson wrote: Hi All, I tie my thread on my bobbins, for three reasons. * Demonstrating at my favorite park (Goose Lake Prairie State Natural Area) in Morris, Illinois, I am sometimes in the Cragg Cabin. That cabin has cracks in the floor between the floor boards and if I drop a bobbin or a tool for that matter, it is gone. * Working on my deck in the summer, my deck has cracks between the boards, and if I drop a bobbin, it is hard to retrieve it. * Demonstrating anytime, anywhere; I hate to put my butt in the air, looking for my bobbins, (all right stop laughing! :-)) so I prefer to pull my bobbin back into play by the thread, kind of like the fishing line. Tying on just makes sense for me. Susie Susie Susie Johnson, Vice President and Newsletter Editor Member L.A.C.E., I.O.L.I., Arachne List Morris, Illinois cjohnson0...@comcast.net http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org http://home.comcast.net/~cjohnson0969/home.html [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] tying thread on bobbins
I always wrap, but never tie, because tying just doesn't work. When I was a beginner I thought tying was a good idea, but I have found that I can never get the knot close enough to the wood, and that tied loop keeps slipping. The only way I can bet the thread to stay there is to wind very very tightly and let friction keep it in place. Whenever I teach beginners each one says happily that she will tie them. So we start out with a kind of battle. The tied thread keeps slipping and the bobbin just won't stay wound. Eventually the student agrees to do it my way. By the 2nd lesson the bobbins are staying wound and the hitch holds. It's a question of what works. In my experience friction and tight winding work, tying doesn't. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Tying thread on bobbins
Adele wrote: But it's funny this topic came up just now, because only this morning I tied a thread onto a bobbin. Why? Because it's a gimp going around a little half-stitch circle, and I know I'm only going to use a couple of inches of thread, and I didn't want to waste three or four times that by having to wrap the thread around the bobbin enough times that it wouldn't come undone on its own. It's a thick thread (DMC Broder Speciale #16) and would need quite a few wraps to make it stay put. This is good time to use the hackle plier tool. I use them when having short lengths of gimps. I usually fill one bobbin with the gimp thread and attach the other end to the tool. I don't toss my leftover thread out. We collect spare thread, and it is amazing how quickly it mounts up. One of our lace guild members makes quilted hearts that are given to people in hospital and uses the thread for stuffing. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
