Re: [lace] Unusual Torah binder (bobbin lace)
Hello all, I have been looking at the book Carolina mentions, and what she calls flowers are kind of dots or round motifs, with pairs entering and going out... And these round motifs are repeated all through the lace. At a first sight, I couldn't see anything repeated on the lace, and I thought it was quite chaotic. But... looking carefully, we can see round dots in half stitch, round dots in cloth st., with a ring around the cloth st. area, and then we also see little stripes of tapes, crossing each other in some places... In my opinion, this is freehand lace. It has an irregular look, which possibly means there was no pattern underneath. Hope to have contributed a little. Best regards from Antje, in Spain, where it is raining at last! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Unusual Torah binder (bobbin lace)
I have replied privately to Avital, sending her the picture with the basic motifs that makes the ground and I understand as flowers. If someone else is interested in seeing it. Please contact me privately. Greetings from Barcelona. Spain Carolina de la Guardia http://www.carolgallego.com Witch Stitch Lace El 15/09/2010 20:18, Avital escribió: Thanks, Carolina. Do you really see flowers in this piece? Avital - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
RE: [lace] Unusual Torah binder (bobbin lace)
There a Torah binder in the collection made of bobbin lace. It's undated and only identified as Italian and sewn onto a silk backing. I've never seen anything like it -- very freeform. I was just wondering whether anyone might know anything about this style of lace. http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/4990969792/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/4990968954/ I see a definite repeating pattern in the lace and my first thought was Binche, but not wild enough for Binche and I don't see any clear indication of 2 pairs per pin or snowflakes, but ALMOST snowflakes. It does not look like the meandering Italian or Flemish earlier laces, but may be related to what became the Low Country domestic laces that were documented in the Die Linencast series from OIDFA. Was there any hint of the timeframe for the lace? Patty - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Unusual Torah binder (bobbin lace)
No, absolutely no date. In fact, there wasn't even a card. My friend was rather persistent and asked the guy at the desk. He called someone, who said that the card was being reprinted because of typos introduced by the printer. They brought up the old card. All it said was Torah Binder. Italy. Cotton lace on silk fabric. Avital On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Patty Dowden pat...@netwiz.net wrote: I see a definite repeating pattern in the lace and my first thought was Binche, but not wild enough for Binche and I don't see any clear indication of 2 pairs per pin or snowflakes, but ALMOST snowflakes. It does not look like the meandering Italian or Flemish earlier laces, but may be related to what became the Low Country domestic laces that were documented in the Die Linencast series from OIDFA. Was there any hint of the timeframe for the lace? Patty -- Blog: http://apinnick.wordpress.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Unusual Torah binder (bobbin lace)
Yes! the Die Linencast series have a few of this style. Also one of Monika Thonhauser's folios of lace in the Salzburger Museum has patterns in this style--Folge 4?? (I don't have them to hand here.) Nancy From: Patty Dowden pat...@netwiz.net To: Arachne.com lace@arachne.com Sent: Wed, September 15, 2010 2:32:10 AM Subject: RE: [lace] Unusual Torah binder (bobbin lace) There a Torah binder in the collection made of bobbin lace. It's undated and only identified as Italian and sewn onto a silk backing. I've never seen anything like it -- very freeform. I was just wondering whether anyone might know anything about this style of lace. http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/4990969792/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/4990968954/ may be related to what became the Low Country domestic laces that were documented in the Die Linencast series from OIDFA. Was there any hint of the timeframe for the lace? Patty - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Unusual Torah binder (bobbin lace)
I think to have identified the ground used in the piece. It appears on the book by Gertrude Whiting, A Lace Guide for makers and collectors, page. 87. I have cut out the basic motifs on the picture for a better identification: 2 flowers with different centres, one in cloth stitch and the other half stitch, the petals are holes, surrounded by little braids in cloth stitch. I am quite sure that the piece is worked as a freehand lace based on Trentino Stitch. It would be more difficult to establish a date for it, at least me. Greetings from Barcelona. Spain Carolina de la Guardia http://www.carolgallego.com Witch Stitch Lace El 14/09/2010 21:10, Avital escribió: There a Torah binder in the collection made of bobbin lace. It's undated and only identified as Italian and sewn onto a silk backing. I've never seen anything like it -- very freeform. I was just wondering whether anyone might know anything about this style of lace. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Unusual Torah binder (bobbin lace)
Thanks, Carolina. Do you really see flowers in this piece? Avital On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Carolina de la Guardia carolina...@aol.com wrote: I think to have identified the ground used in the piece. It appears on the book by Gertrude Whiting, A Lace Guide for makers and collectors, page. 87. I have cut out the basic motifs on the picture for a better identification: 2 flowers with different centres, one in cloth stitch and the other half stitch, the petals are holes, surrounded by little braids in cloth stitch. I am quite sure that the piece is worked as a freehand lace based on Trentino Stitch. It would be more difficult to establish a date for it, at least me. Greetings from Barcelona. Spain Carolina de la Guardia -- Blog: http://apinnick.wordpress.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Unusual Torah binder (bobbin lace)
Dear spiders, I was at the U. Nahon Museum of Italian Jewish Art with some fiber enthusiasts because I'd heard there was some lace in the special exhibit that just opened in August. There a Torah binder in the collection made of bobbin lace. It's undated and only identified as Italian and sewn onto a silk backing. I've never seen anything like it -- very freeform. I was just wondering whether anyone might know anything about this style of lace. I was very fortunate that they let me take photos, despite the fact that they had a photography forbidden sign on the desk. Hey, it doesn't hurt to ask! I asked the man whether it might be possible to buy a photo of this lace, since it was forbidden to take photos. He said it was fine as long as I didn't use a flash. So here are a larger shot and a detail. http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/4990969792/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/4990968954/ I also photographed carvings, ketubbot (marriage certificates), and the old Italian synagogue, which is still in use. I haven't processed all my photos yet, but here are some shots of the synagogue interior: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/4990294703/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/4990293641/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr/4990940686/ Avital -- Blog: http://apinnick.wordpress.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spindexr - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
