[lace] galoon

2012-01-29 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Arachnid

Thank you to everyone who responded to my question about galoon, which can
also be spelt galloon and galon. I knew the term can be used when the edges
are not straight  but was not sure if it can also be applied if the edges are
straight. There have plenty of replies confirming that the edges can be
straight, so I will go ahead and use it.

Thank you all again for taking the time to respond.

Happy lacemaking

Alex

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Re: [lace] galoon

2012-01-29 Thread Bridget Marrow
Historically galloon refers to metal thread lace or braid, as used on
military uniforms or 18th century laced coats.Here's the Wikipedia
definition: Galloon is a decorative woven trim sometimes in the form of a
braid and commonly made of metallic gold or silver thread, lace, or
embroidery. Galloon is used in the trim of military and police uniforms,
ecclesiastical garments, and as trim on textiles, drapery, and upholstered
furniture.
Modern lace manufacturers seem to be using it more loosely, for any sort of
double-edged strip lace, scallopped or straight.  Google turned up several of
them.  Bridget, on a foggy evening in Pinner

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[lace] galoon

2012-01-28 Thread Alex Stillwell
Hi Arachnids

Here's another question.  I know the term galoon is used for a strip of lace
with an undulating or Vandyked headside on both sides. Is the term also
suitable when the both headsides are straight? If not, does anyone know of the
correct term. I have tried Wikipedia but the only reference I found included
it in a list containing other lace items but no description of the item.

Happy lacemaking

Alex

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Re: [lace] galoon

2012-01-28 Thread Catherine Barley

Subject: [lace] galoon


Here's another question.  I know the term galoon is used for a strip of 
lace

with an undulating or Vandyked headside on both sides. Is the term also
suitable when the both headsides are straight? 


Hi Alex

If both sides are straight isn't  the word 'insertion' the correct 
terminology?


Catherine Barley
UK 


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Re: [lace] galoon

2012-01-28 Thread Alex Stillwell

Thanks Cathy but it's not an insertion

You are not the first to give this answer but this lace has picots, not a 
footside down each
side and it is not intended that the sides be sewn to fabric. Instead the 
whole item is to be applied onto fabric.


I always have fun reading all the replies, they show how misleading and 
inaccurate the English language can be and they help me get the best term to 
describe what I'm working on.


Thank again and best wishes

Alex



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Subject: [lace] galoon


Here's another question.  I know the term galoon is used for a strip of 
lace

with an undulating or Vandyked headside on both sides. Is the term also
suitable when the both headsides are straight? 


Hi Alex

If both sides are straight isn't  the word 'insertion' the correct 
terminology?


Catherine Barley
UK



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Re: [lace] galoon

2012-01-28 Thread J D Hammett

Hi Alex and Arachnids,

We would call e strip of lace with both sides straight (footsides) an 
insertion. I have not heard any other term for that so far. If there is 
another term I 'd like to know as well.


Happy lace making,

Joepie, East Sussex, UK

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From Alex Stillwell


 I know the term galoon is used for a strip of lace
with an undulating or Vandyked headside on both sides. Is the term also
suitable when the both headsides are straight?  Happy lacemaking

Alex

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[lace] galoon

2012-01-28 Thread Jean Nathan

Haven't found anything with the spelling galoon, but


A Fashion Alphabet by Janey Ironside:

Galloon (Galon) - metallic lace trimming


Costume Language (A dictionary of dress terms) by Stephanie Davies:

Galloon, galon - Narrow braid or trimming. 17th to 19th century.


The Dictionary of Costume by R Turner:

galloon, galon - A fancy finishing braid used in both costume and upholstery 
work. A narrow passementerie of cotton, silk, velvet, cold or silver 
cording.



Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] galoon

2012-01-28 Thread Alex Stillwell

Thanks Joepie but it's not an insertion

You are not the first to give this answer. An isertion is a piece of lace 
inserted between two other pieces of fabric or lace. This this lace has 
picots, not a footside down each side and it is not intended that the sides 
be sewn to fabric. Instead the whole item is to be applied onto fabric.


I always have fun reading all the replies, they show how misleading and
inaccurate the English language can be and they help me get the best term to
describe what I'm working on.

Thank again and best wishes

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Hi Alex and Arachnids,

We would call e strip of lace with both sides straight (footsides) an 
insertion. I have not heard any other term for that so far. If there is 
another term I 'd like to know as well.


Happy lace making,

Joepie, East Sussex, UK

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From Alex Stillwell

 I know the term galoon is used for a strip of lace
with an undulating or Vandyked headside on both sides. Is the term also
suitable when the both headsides are straight?  Happy lacemaking

Alex





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[lace] galoon

2012-01-28 Thread Jean Nathan

Just found another.

A Dictionary of Costume and Fashion by May Brookes Picken:

galloon Narrow, tape-like band; either strong lace woven of gold or silver 
threads on silk or worsted, or ribbon of wool, silk, cotton, etc. Formerly 
much used for trimming. Also spelled like French word 'galon'.


galon - French word meaning rich lace, galloon or officer's stripe.

galon d'argent - French term meaning silver lace

galon d'or -French term meaning gold lace


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] galoon

2012-01-28 Thread Bob Ross
The Oxford English Dictionary states:

A kind of narrow, close-woven ribbon or braid, of gold, silver, or
silk thread, used for trimming articles of apparel; a trimming of this
material.

One of the references they quote is from 1882 - The Dictionary of
Needlework by Caulfeild and Saward:

There are two descriptions of this article. One is a strong, thick
gold lace‥It is woven with a pattern in threads of gold or silver, on
silk or worsted‥and is employed in uniforms and on servants' livery
hats. The other is of wool, silk, or cotton combined with silk or
worsted, and is used for trimming and binding articles of dress, hats,
shoes, and furniture. This sort is only a narrow ribbon.

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Re: [lace] galoon

2012-01-28 Thread bev walker
You have good questions for us, Alex ;)

'galloon' is at Wikipedia and has an excellent photo of this braid on a
Russian uniform.

You have lace trim with each edge a headside, intended for surface
application. I don't know a short name for that, but surely there is one?!

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 wrote:

 Hi Arachnids

 Here's another question.  I know the term galoon is used for a strip of
 lace

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Re: [lace] galoon

2012-01-28 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Alex:

I think you could still call it a galloon.

The Oxford online dictionary defines a galloon as  a narrow ornamental strip
of fabric, typically a silk braid or piece of lace, used to trim clothing or
finish upholstery
At dictionary.com I got: a braid or trimming of worsted, silk or rayon
tinsel, gold or silver, etc., usually having scalloping along both edges.

Since dictionary.com says usually we can suppose that by their definition
sometimes it's not scalloped, the Oxford online dictionary doesn't mention
scalloping as a necessary part of a galloon. I looked at about 10 different
online dictionaries and none of them specified that it had to be scalloped.

Hope this helps

Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)


On 2012-01-28, at 12:02 AM, Alex Stillwell wrote:

 Hi Arachnids

 Here's another question.  I know the term galoon is used for a strip of
lace
 with an undulating or Vandyked headside on both sides. Is the term also
 suitable when the both headsides are straight? If not, does anyone know of
the
 correct term. I have tried Wikipedia but the only reference I found
included
 it in a list containing other lace items but no description of the item.

 Happy lacemaking

 Alex

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Re: [lace] galoon

2012-01-28 Thread bev walker
More info on 'galloon' - it is derived from the French, galon, as someone
else mentioned - galonner, to dress the hair with ribbons.

I think of it as a heavy and/or sturdy trim, for use on upholstery,
drapery, and military wear in modest or sumptuous amounts, scalloped or
straight ('festooned with galloons' comes to mind!). In my French-Canadian
dictionary, one of the meanings for 'galon' is the stripe itself on a
uniform.

And some thoughts: I'm wondering if 'galloon' is an appropriate word for
your lace - you could call it what it is, 'lace trim' with a qualifying
adjective e.g. 'wide lace trim' or 'elegant surface trim' (as opposed to a
trim that hangs over an edge), or 'applied trim' ??? unless, of course,
your lace is heavy-duty but the use of picots suggests to me something more
delicate than a military stripe.

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Alex Stillwell alexstillw...@talktalk.net
 wrote:


 Here's another question.  I know the term galoon is used for a strip of
 lace
 with an undulating or Vandyked headside on both sides.

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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