Re: [LARTC] how to match TTL?

2004-11-23 Thread Catalin(ux aka Dino) BOIE
Hi!
Hi!
I can't find anywhere correct syntax how to match TTL. All of I found refuse to
work :(
tc filter add dev eth1 parent 1:0 prio 10 u32 match u8 64 0xff at 8 flowid 1:11
This works.
Can you confirm with a tcpdump that the ttl is the one you expect?
All I need is to match TTL=64 and TTL=128, of course with iproute :) Any ideas?
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[LARTC] how to remove rules

2004-11-23 Thread Askar
hi
I have trying to remove the extra rules from my routing tables,
however with no luck
Also I want to know these duplicate entries have an effect on packets
going routed?
I have this overwhelming rules lists from my predessor who added the
ip rule add fwmark entries in firewall script, and on each run of
firewall script its creates an extra entry in routing table.
Now what I want to get rid of  an extras from all fwmark 0x2 lookup
squid.out leaving only one that what's I needs.

here is the output of ip rule ls

0:  from all lookup local
32742:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32743:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32744:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32745:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32746:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32747:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32748:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32749:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32750:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32751:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32752:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32753:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32754:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32755:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32756:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32757:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32758:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32759:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32760:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32761:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32762:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32763:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32764:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32765:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32766:  from all lookup main
32767:  from all lookup 253

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Re: [LARTC] how much bandwidth to dedicate?

2004-11-23 Thread Andy Furniss
Nicolas Patik wrote:
I want to provide internet to home users with 256 Kbps and I have a 3
Mbps dedicated internet connection.
Do you think It's ok to split the 3 Mbps in 480 users?
It depends what they are used to or can get.
It will only take 12/480 users downloading to fill the link - 24 to half 
 the speed for everyone.

40:1 contention doesn't sound that bad - I am on a product sold as 50:1 
- but I see NO contention - at all.

The figure of 50:1 is made up, in the UK it seems they can't get away 
with running the exchange link at any more than 15:1 on a 10meg VC (512k 
home customers).

ISPs may further contend - link from teleco to ISP and ISP and to 
internet routes.

I haven't got a clue how many people I share the teleco to ISP link 
with, but I am on one of their four 622meg lines - and contention is 
alot nicer on fat pipes.

Andy.
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Re: [LARTC] Strange error!?

2004-11-23 Thread Andy Furniss
Cow wrote:
I was using this setup and it worked fine untill i executed up2date in
Redhat and updated a lot of the packages in linux.

Unknown qdisc htb, hence option default is unparsable
Maybe it updated the tc binary to one that doesn't know about HTB.
Try posting to a redhat list.
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Re: [LARTC] Increase connection tracking time??

2004-11-23 Thread Andy Furniss
Daniel Bartlett wrote:
Hi,
I have setup a Linux box similar to the load balanced method in the LARTC guide(conns: LAN,DMZ,ISP1,ISP2).
When running clients like Jabber/MSN it seems like the route gets lost in the table after a while. 
What can I change to increase the tracking time in the tables??

Not sure if they apply with load balancing , but there are some settings 
in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/route/ the gc are garbage collection - you'll have 
to google for detail.

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[LARTC] fw mark and policers on 2.6 not working ?

2004-11-23 Thread Andy Furniss
I just noticed that policers don't seem to work with marks in 2.6 .
Can anyone get -
iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp -j MARK --set-mark 1
tc qdisc add dev eth0 handle : ingress
tc filter add dev eth0 parent : protocol ip prio 1 handle 1 fw 
police rate 100kbit burst 10k drop flowid :1

To work on a 2.6 - it's OK on 2.4.26, version of tc used makes no 
difference. The catch all policer as in wondershaper is OK on 2.6.

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Re: [LARTC] SEPARATING VOIP AND SURFING

2004-11-23 Thread Ricardo Soria
Dear friends:

Very thanks for all your help.  I have made many
changes to my scrip this days, fixing up some problems
and mistakes I found.  It seems now I have a very
acceptable VoIP quality, and everything is working
notably better.  I am actually using 450kbit of the
total 512 available.  Next step I will take is to
investigate about ESQF, so, I can implement it to my
script.

I will be annoying by here later ;-)

Thanks.

Ricardo.

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 Andy Furniss wrote:
 
  Ricardo Soria wrote:
 
 
  1.  So, starting at 80% of total 512kbit
 bandwidth
  (410kbit), there would be a waste of 102kbit.  Is
 this
  completely necessary??  I think this is to ensure
 I
  have the queue on my side, and the queue is not
 on the
  side of the ISP.  But, I fell tempted to think
 that
  102kbit is too much for this purpose, considering
 that
  I really have 512kbit all time.  What would you
  finally recommend ??
 
 
  It depends how much you care about latency  what
 the people on your 
  LAN do/use.
 
  I don't know what's acceptable latency and jitter
 for VOIP.
 
 not all that important. we have 400ms ping time to
 one site, but the 
 voip is acceptable because it doesn't synchronise.
 if packet loss is a 
 problem, turn off any compression.
 
 
 
  2.  Could you please tell me a secure and
 trustworthy
  way to know if I am having queued packets under
 this
  class??
 
 
  Again how much you have to do depends on the usage
 of your network. 
  You can explicitly mark each type of interavtive
 you want to priorotise.
 
  If you have 20 hackers using P2P 24/7 then life is
 going to be harder 
  - if they just browse and email It's probably not
 worth trying too hard.
 
 
  3.  I am creating 2 different htb classes, one
 for
  interactive, and another for bulk, and also, 2
  different sfq inferior classes, one for each
 service. What else can I 
  do to avoid sending a mix of traffic
  ??
 
 
  If you have one queue for bulk it would need to be
 esfq if you want 
  per IP fairness. If you'd rather not patch then
 your origional queue 
  for each user is OK - but you should change SFQ's
 queue length.
 
 
  4.  If you still have a copy of my script, you
 can see
  I am giving prio 0 to interactive classes, and
 prio
  1 to bulk classes.  I also tested giving prio 0
 and
  prio 1 at filters setup (and also, prio 1 to
  everybody, I am not so sure what worked better). 
 What
  else can I do to emphasize interactive traffic
  priority??
 
 
  The prio is most important, other things I do are
 - make sure 
  interactive has large burst and bulk none. Rather
 than mess with r2q I 
  set quantum to my MTU for HTB and SFQ. HTB can be
 tweaked to be more 
  accurate - but you may not need to bother. I also
 set a rate for my 
  interactive larger than I ever expect to be used,
 this is probably 
  unneccesary, but then I count game traffic a top
 prio - and I was 
  using upto 20K bytes/sec incoming while on a 64
 player enemy territory 
  server recently.
 
  Sorry for the annoyances, very thanks in advance.
 
 
  That's OK - It would help to know what the users
 do and how many are 
  active at once etc.
 
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[LARTC] ip rule to remove

2004-11-23 Thread Askar
hi thanks for your reply heh Example: ip del rule pref 32742 is
syntically wrong :)

and when i tried ip rule del 32742 it gives me error

# ip rule del 32742
Error: argument 32742 is wrong: Failed to parse rule type

so how to get get of these extra rules?



0:  from all lookup local
32742:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32743:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32744:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32745:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32746:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32747:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32748:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32749:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32750:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32751:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32752:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32753:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32754:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32755:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32756:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32757:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32758:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32759:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32760:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out


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Re: [LARTC] ip rule to remove

2004-11-23 Thread Martin A. Brown
Hi there Askar,

 : and when i tried ip rule del 32742 it gives me error
 : so how to get get of these extra rules?

Try:

 ip rule del prio 32742 from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out

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Re: [LARTC] how to remove rules

2004-11-23 Thread Chris Bennett
I've had the same problem.  I sorta wish there was an ip rule flush 
command that would leave only the default rules.

Anyway, what I do to prevent my rules from getting out of hand is every time 
I add a rule, I first delete the very same rule.  This prevents the 
duplicates, at least.

So every place in my script that I might have:
IP RULE ADD some rule
I place before it:
IP RULE DEL some rule
Works for me.
- Original Message - 
From: Askar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 4:57 AM
Subject: [LARTC] how to remove rules


hi
I have trying to remove the extra rules from my routing tables,
however with no luck
Also I want to know these duplicate entries have an effect on packets
going routed?
I have this overwhelming rules lists from my predessor who added the
ip rule add fwmark entries in firewall script, and on each run of
firewall script its creates an extra entry in routing table.
Now what I want to get rid of  an extras from all fwmark 0x2 lookup
squid.out leaving only one that what's I needs.
here is the output of ip rule ls
0:  from all lookup local
32742:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32743:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32744:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32745:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32746:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32747:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32748:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32749:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32750:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32751:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32752:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32753:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32754:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32755:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32756:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32757:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32758:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32759:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32760:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32761:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32762:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32763:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32764:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32765:  from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
32766:  from all lookup main
32767:  from all lookup 253
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Re: [LARTC] burst question

2004-11-23 Thread Stef Coene
On Monday 22 November 2004 00:17, richard lucassen wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:50:17 +0100
 Stef Coene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [..]

   Q4: I want this class to be able to allow 400Kbit burst during 3
   seconds. What value should I give to the burst parameter? Is this
   400/160*1803=4507b?
 
  400kbit * 3s = 1200kbit.
  You can try this, but htb burst is not made for this.  It is made for
  burst of a few k.

 So a burst of 20k means the next 20kbit waiting in the queue will be
 sent in one burst before switching to another queue. This also means
 that this block of 20kbit is sent full speed over the line and it is not
 limited by any ceiling or whatsoever.

 Right or wrong?
Wrong.  There are 2 bursts: a burst for the rate and a cburst for the ceil.  
So if you have a burst, it's still checked against the ceil.
Check out
http://www.docum.org/docum.org/tests/htb/burst/
for some tests.

Stef

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Re: [LARTC] how to remove rules

2004-11-23 Thread Martin A. Brown
Hello all!

 : I've had the same problem.  I sorta wish there was an ip rule flush 
 : command that would leave only the default rules.

I have a function called flush which flushes all tables and all rules 
other than the main routing table.  Here's the rule flush portion.  It 
won't win any points for elegance, but it should get the job done:

ip rule show | grep -Ev '^(0|32766|32767):' \
  | while read PRIO RULE; do
  ip rule del prio ${PRIO%%:*} $( echo $RULE | sed 's|all|0/0|' )
done

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[LARTC] Re: burst question

2004-11-23 Thread richard lucassen
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:56:31 +0100
Stef Coene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  So a burst of 20k means the next 20kbit waiting in the queue will be
  sent in one burst before switching to another queue. This also means
  that this block of 20kbit is sent full speed over the line and it is
  not limited by any ceiling or whatsoever.
 
  Right or wrong?
 Wrong.  There are 2 bursts: a burst for the rate and a cburst for the
 ceil.  So if you have a burst, it's still checked against the ceil.
 Check out
 http://www.docum.org/docum.org/tests/htb/burst/
 for some tests.

Ok, of course it is checked against the ceiling over a longer period,
but what I try to understand is the value that is given to the burst
variable. What you show on your (very good) website is what happens
during a longer time (seconds). I try to understand why in practice this
burst value is for example 20k and not 500k (which is easier to
understand btw ;-)

Two very simplified queues, same rate, same ceiling, MTU 1500, queue1:
burst 1500, queue2: burst 6000, each x represents a packet of 1500
bytes. As far as I understand it the packets are sent out this way (at
maximum hardware speed):


time ||
 \/

Q1    - Q1 can use its burst value and sends 4 packets
Q2 x
Q1 x  - burst is discharged, Q1 sends 1 packet at a time
Q2 x
Q1 x
Q2 x  - Q1 stops sending packets, burst can recharge
Q2 x
Q2 x
Q2 x  - burst of Q1 is now fully charged
Q1    - Q1 can use its burst value and sends 4 packets
Q2 x
Q1 x

It is a very simplified (and maybe wrong) example, but I want to make
clear for myself why this burst is for example 20k and not 500k, as in
test2 on http://www.docum.org/docum.org/tests/htb/burst/ 

I can only explain this issue this way. From Devik's doc:

http://luxik.cdi.cz/~devik/qos/htb/manual/userg.htm

#
Networking hardware can only send one packet at a time and only at a
hardware dependent rate. Link sharing software can only use this ability
to approximate the effects of multiple links running at different
(lower) speeds. Therefore the rate and ceil are not really instantaneous
measures but averages over the time that it takes to send many packets.
What really happens is that the traffic from one class is sent a few
packets at a time at the maximum speed and then other classes are served
for a while. The burst and cburst parameters control the amount of data
that can be sent at the maximum (hardware) speed without trying to serve
another class.
#

The last sentence makes this clear IMHO. But I can be terribly wrong of
course, so please correct me if I'm still wrong...

R.
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Re: [LARTC] how to remove rules

2004-11-23 Thread Chris Bennett
Cool, thanks.  I've never been too good at complex scripting myself (I 
have a mental block of seeing all complex scripting as inelegant and 
sub-optimal by nature, so I understand your comment about inelegance), but 
I see exactly what you're doing, and it seems about as elegant as possible 
with a script.  Very nice.  That goes right into my routing script.

Chris
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Subject: Re: [LARTC] how to remove rules


Hello all!
: I've had the same problem.  I sorta wish there was an ip rule flush
: command that would leave only the default rules.
I have a function called flush which flushes all tables and all rules
other than the main routing table.  Here's the rule flush portion.  It
won't win any points for elegance, but it should get the job done:
   ip rule show | grep -Ev '^(0|32766|32767):' \
 | while read PRIO RULE; do
 ip rule del prio ${PRIO%%:*} $( echo $RULE | sed 's|all|0/0|' )
   done
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[LARTC] outbound shaping

2004-11-23 Thread nix4me
Well it appears i have no clue what im doing.  I thought i had the below 
script working to shape outbound ftp traffichowever, it is shaping 
inbound traffic too.  I have NO clue why.

Please comment if anyone has any ideas why this doesnt work.  I want to 
shape only outbound ftp traffic and not inbound or lan traffic.

#!/bin/bash
#shaping passive and active outbound ftp traffic on an internal computer 
without affecting inbound and lan speed

# mark the outbound passive ftp packets on ports 5-51000
iptables -t mangle -D OUTPUT -o eth0 -j MYSHAPER-OUT 2 /dev/null  
/dev/null
iptables -t mangle -F MYSHAPER-OUT 2 /dev/null  /dev/null
iptables -t mangle -X MYSHAPER-OUT 2 /dev/null  /dev/null

iptables -t mangle -N MYSHAPER-OUT
iptables -t mangle -I OUTPUT -o eth0 -j MYSHAPER-OUT
iptables -t mangle -A MYSHAPER-OUT -p tcp --sport 65436 -j MARK 
--set-mark 20
iptables -t mangle -A MYSHAPER-OUT -p tcp --sport 5:51000 -j MARK 
--set-mark 20
iptables -t mangle -A MYSHAPER-OUT -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK --set-mark 26
# clear it
tc qdisc del dev eth0 root

#add the root qdisk
tc qdisc add dev eth0 root handle 1: htb default 26
#add main rate limit class
tc class add dev eth0 parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate 100mbit
#add leaf classes
tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:20 htb rate 40kbps
tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:1 classid 1:26 htb rate 100mbit
#filter traffic into classes
tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1:0  prio 0 protocol ip handle 20 fw 
flowid 1:20
tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1:0  prio 0 protocol ip handle 26 fw 
flowid 1:26
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Re: [LARTC] ip rule to remove

2004-11-23 Thread Askar
heya Martin
Thanks for the reply its just for archieve to confirm that i'm done with it.
I used the following command to get rid of extra entries in routing database


#ip rule del fwmark 2 table squid.out

regards
-Askar

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:03:58 -0600 (CST), Martin A. Brown
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 Hi there Askar,
 
  : and when i tried ip rule del 32742 it gives me error
  : so how to get get of these extra rules?
 
 Try:
 
  ip rule del prio 32742 from all fwmark 0x2 lookup squid.out
 
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[LARTC] alot of traffic over pppoe ?

2004-11-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi

I was wondering is pppoe scalable enought to support Gbps speeds or at least 
tens of hundred of Mbps ?
From the docs I read it seems that after user is auth over pppoe the client 
traffic still passes over ppp-channel
from 
 pppoe-client --- pppoe-server --- Internet
Instead of 
 pppoe-client ---  Internet

m'I correct with this assumption ? 
From this I conclude that maximum traffic is the amout the server will be able 
to handle,
but not so dependable from the Layer2-network capabilities..

So is there something I'm missing here ? 

tia
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