Re: The killing season was Re: LI Jones case thrown out

1998-04-07 Thread Sue Hartigan

Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi Jackie:

I might give them an idea of what is real, that is for sure.  It
certainly isn't like any television show. :(

I thought it really gave an inside story of why these kids (adults)
became gang members, etc too.  Made me understand it a lot more.  Not
condone it but understand it.

Sue
 
 Hi Sue
 
 I think his explanations fell right in line with what a number of researchers
 are finding.  Everyone wants approval and support--if they can't find it
 elsewhere, gangs fill the bill nicely.  It has everything going--rituals,
 special names, feelings of belonging, solidarity, etc. etc.  What more could a
 young, driftless person want?
 
 Also, the economic and power factors seemed to be two of  the underlying threads
 in the book which I thought really good about the book.  You could really pick
 it up when you read what the suspects, witnesses and alive victims said.  I am
 thinking of recommeding it to LE students.  Some of them are so starry-eyed
 about becoming police officers--maybe reading of the paperwork, etc. will bring
 them down to earth : )
 
 jackief

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Re: The killing season was Re: LI Jones case thrown out

1998-04-07 Thread Jackie Fellows

Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi Sue

Couldn't agree with you more.  I really liked how he showed both sides of the
issue--the lack of support for the police (financially, socially, etc.) in their
efforts and the lack of knowledge of why the emergence of such gangs--or rather, not
knowledge, just convenient forgetfulness of some of the important reasons.  The gangs
today are so different than those historically and I think the author really pointed
that out.

jackief

Sue Hartigan wrote:

 Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Jackie:

 I might give them an idea of what is real, that is for sure.  It
 certainly isn't like any television show. :(

 I thought it really gave an inside story of why these kids (adults)
 became gang members, etc too.  Made me understand it a lot more.  Not
 condone it but understand it.

 Sue
 
  Hi Sue
 
  I think his explanations fell right in line with what a number of researchers
  are finding.  Everyone wants approval and support--if they can't find it
  elsewhere, gangs fill the bill nicely.  It has everything going--rituals,
  special names, feelings of belonging, solidarity, etc. etc.  What more could a
  young, driftless person want?
 
  Also, the economic and power factors seemed to be two of  the underlying threads
  in the book which I thought really good about the book.  You could really pick
  it up when you read what the suspects, witnesses and alive victims said.  I am
  thinking of recommeding it to LE students.  Some of them are so starry-eyed
  about becoming police officers--maybe reading of the paperwork, etc. will bring
  them down to earth : )
 
  jackief

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The killing season was Re: LI Jones case thrown out

1998-04-04 Thread Jackie Fellows

Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Hi Sue

I think his explanations fell right in line with what a number of researchers
are finding.  Everyone wants approval and support--if they can't find it
elsewhere, gangs fill the bill nicely.  It has everything going--rituals,
special names, feelings of belonging, solidarity, etc. etc.  What more could a
young, driftless person want?

Also, the economic and power factors seemed to be two of  the underlying threads
in the book which I thought really good about the book.  You could really pick
it up when you read what the suspects, witnesses and alive victims said.  I am
thinking of recommeding it to LE students.  Some of them are so starry-eyed
about becoming police officers--maybe reading of the paperwork, etc. will bring
them down to earth : )

jackief

Sue Hartigan wrote:

 Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi Jackie:

 What did you think of some of the explainations for gang activity and
 the spread of it?  It made a lot of sense to me.

 Glad you liked it.  :)

 Sue
 
  Hi Sue
 
  Guess she will have to do the talk show circuit.  (I know, be nice).
 
  Off topic:  I am just about done with the book.  It is great.  I really
  like the writer's style.  He brings a lot of other material in that really
  gives you a picture of what the LE is facing.
 
  jackief

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LI Jones case thrown out

1998-04-01 Thread Sue Hartigan

Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


The Judge is throwing out the entire Paula Jones case according to CBS

Sue
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