Re: LI Study Confirms Deficit in the Brainstem of SIDS Victims
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: Bobby keeps telling me just to play around with it. That is the only way to learn. But every time I do something like that it takes him about 4 or more hours to figure out how to clean up the mess I make. Seems that I never remember what it was I did to create the problem in the first place. Kathy has pulled me out of more messes than I care to remember, or she wants to remember too, I'm sure. :) Can't you go on to the Mayo site. Most of these big places have indebth sites where you can pretty much find anything you want. In fact Harvard and Cornell even put some of their professors' lessons right on their sites. There are a lot of "papers" that are put on there too. Sue Hi Sue Thanks for the site. I talked to our new librarian today and he told me who to call at Mayo to try and get permission to be a patron and get lots of their information. Hope it works. Will call next week--figure this is a busy week for everyone including Mayo. I am simply going to have to bug poor Kathy and learn how to make links. After all, she has nothing better to do than instruct us computer geniuses, right : ) (Like heck, I can hear Kathy muttering in the background--G) Isn't that the story all the time--I promise this won't hurt you as it is only a little bit of spray. I like technology too, but I wish we wouldn't jump quite so quickly to use it all the time. Thanks again for sending the book--as soon as I get through this week, I can read it--hooray. I caught Ed giving it the ole' hawkeye look so will have to watch over the book or he will begin reading it. jackief -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Study Confirms Deficit in the Brainstem of SIDS Victims
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: They sure do, and it really looks interesting. It is at http://www.lomalinda.com/medical.html They haven't done any spraying for a while, but if those fruit flies come back we have been told that they will do it again. I don't think that there has been any study done or anything on the effects of what they have done so far. But we have all been told not to worry because the amount of insecticide in the spray is very low. In about 10 years or so when everyone is dying of ca or something then they will probably say, "oops, shouldn't have done that." :( Hi Sue Thanks for letting me know about Loma Linda. Guess it is more than one researcher BG. Do you know if they have a 'homepage?' They might have some of their research on the web. I wonder if their doctors have written on the causes of conjoined twins. The hospital must be like Mayo here in MN., but with a different focus. Here, I think infants are sent to the U of M hospital. They have a really good neonatal unit I am told. The spraying of Malathion doesn't sound very safe to me after you posted all the precautions they want people to take. DDT was once thought to be great, wasn't it. Are they still spraying Malathion there? Would be interesting to look up stats (oh horrors) on incidences, prevalence and causes of death in the areas they spray this stuff in and compare them. Oh, I bet government agencies etc. hate having an informed public VVBG. Proof readers only look for mistakes in grammar, spelling and punctuation, I think. They don't read for content. I bet they couldn't even tell you what an article was about. Gripes, our paper didn't even see the tie between the two school teachers being accused of the same crime at approximately the same time. I would have thought that MN newspapers would have followed this more closely--no such thing occurred. jackief Sue Hartigan wrote: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: I'm sorry I should have said. :) Loma Linda is a big University here in Riverside. It also boasts Loma Linda Hospital which specializes in infants. In fact it is the place where most of the physicians around the country send their cardiac infants who need transplants. sinpped The reason they were spraying Malathion was because of the fruit fly. This thing could demolish our agriculture. They said the spray was harmless, but I still wonder when they take all those precautions. I thought that they had proof readers at the newspapers. But it has been so long since I have been around one that I am sure things have changed dramatically. We don't even have paperboys anymore. That is how much it has changed here in So Ca. Sue Hi Sue At the risk of exposing my lack of knowledge G, who is Loma Linda? I assume a medical researcher?? Don't they have people who are hired to read newspapers to connect stories that seem unrelated? I thought I heard that at one time. That spray stuff you mention may be one factor that could be considered in any research, especially when you are told to bring pets in, and cover inanimate objects. Of course, then we would have to determine what was more important--possible effects on the unborn vrs our comfort in sitting outdoors with no insects. (Just being cynical, here). jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- May the leprechauns be near you to spread luck along your way. And may all the Irish angels smile upon you this St. Patrick's Day. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Study Confirms Deficit in the Brainstem of SIDS Victims
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue Thanks for letting me know about Loma Linda. Guess it is more than one researcher BG. Do you know if they have a 'homepage?' They might have some of their research on the web. I wonder if their doctors have written on the causes of conjoined twins. The hospital must be like Mayo here in MN., but with a different focus. Here, I think infants are sent to the U of M hospital. They have a really good neonatal unit I am told. The spraying of Malathion doesn't sound very safe to me after you posted all the precautions they want people to take. DDT was once thought to be great, wasn't it. Are they still spraying Malathion there? Would be interesting to look up stats (oh horrors) on incidences, prevalence and causes of death in the areas they spray this stuff in and compare them. Oh, I bet government agencies etc. hate having an informed public VVBG. Proof readers only look for mistakes in grammar, spelling and punctuation, I think. They don't read for content. I bet they couldn't even tell you what an article was about. Gripes, our paper didn't even see the tie between the two school teachers being accused of the same crime at approximately the same time. I would have thought that MN newspapers would have followed this more closely--no such thing occurred. jackief Sue Hartigan wrote: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: I'm sorry I should have said. :) Loma Linda is a big University here in Riverside. It also boasts Loma Linda Hospital which specializes in infants. In fact it is the place where most of the physicians around the country send their cardiac infants who need transplants. sinpped The reason they were spraying Malathion was because of the fruit fly. This thing could demolish our agriculture. They said the spray was harmless, but I still wonder when they take all those precautions. I thought that they had proof readers at the newspapers. But it has been so long since I have been around one that I am sure things have changed dramatically. We don't even have paperboys anymore. That is how much it has changed here in So Ca. Sue Hi Sue At the risk of exposing my lack of knowledge G, who is Loma Linda? I assume a medical researcher?? Don't they have people who are hired to read newspapers to connect stories that seem unrelated? I thought I heard that at one time. That spray stuff you mention may be one factor that could be considered in any research, especially when you are told to bring pets in, and cover inanimate objects. Of course, then we would have to determine what was more important--possible effects on the unborn vrs our comfort in sitting outdoors with no insects. (Just being cynical, here). jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Study Confirms Deficit in the Brainstem of SIDS Victims
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: I'm sorry I should have said. :) Loma Linda is a big University here in Riverside. It also boasts Loma Linda Hospital which specializes in infants. In fact it is the place where most of the physicians around the country send their cardiac infants who need transplants. A lot of the medical "news" that you see lately about infant transplants, conjoined twins being separated, etc are a result of Loma Linda's excellent pediatric staff. I don't know if you remember a few years back or not the case of the baby who could not get a transplant and as a last resort they transplanted a baboon heart into the infant. Anyway that was a Loma Linda patient. They are now working on a conjoined pair of twins who share the same legs, liver, etc, and trying to find out if there is any way they can be separated. Catherine worked for them for a while when she lived out here. :) The reason they were spraying Malathion was because of the fruit fly. This thing could demolish our agriculture. They said the spray was harmless, but I still wonder when they take all those precautions. I thought that they had proof readers at the newspapers. But it has been so long since I have been around one that I am sure things have changed dramatically. We don't even have paperboys anymore. That is how much it has changed here in So Ca. Sue Hi Sue At the risk of exposing my lack of knowledge G, who is Loma Linda? I assume a medical researcher?? Don't they have people who are hired to read newspapers to connect stories that seem unrelated? I thought I heard that at one time. That spray stuff you mention may be one factor that could be considered in any research, especially when you are told to bring pets in, and cover inanimate objects. Of course, then we would have to determine what was more important--possible effects on the unborn vrs our comfort in sitting outdoors with no insects. (Just being cynical, here). jackief Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Study Confirms Deficit in the Brainstem of SIDS Victims
Jackie Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue You mean the newspapers in CA have heard about my research VVBG. It is ironic sometimes how when I am looking for something--suddenly it appears in the media. I know it is just because our attention switches and we notice it, but it is funny. I too would wonder if anyone has connected the two to at least examine the possibility. For one thing, it would explain how mothers were exposed to a teratogen. If they found some association, then they would have to figure out why some are protected and others not. Would make a fascinating study for some medical researcher I would think jackief Sue Hartigan wrote: Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: In the first trimester. I couldn't believe my eyes this morning. On our front page there is a story about how they have found out that Nitrates are getting into our water supply via diary runoff. Down further on the page is a story on how SIDs is increasing in the county. Now maybe I am pushing the envelope on this, but do you think that someone might just think there could be a relationship in these two stories? There they were together on the front page on todays newspaper. Sue Sue This is great. Saved it in my psych. folder. I would imagine if there is no genetic link that it would likely be a teratogen. Doesn't the brain stem develop early in the pregnancy if I remember right. jackief -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues -- In the sociology room the children learn that even dreams are colored by your perspective I toss and turn all night.Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room" Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Study Confirms Deficit in the Brainstem of SIDS Victims
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: LOL Maybe you could get a job out here or something. :) Loma Linda is here so probably someone other that I picked up on this, but I just thought it was so ironic how these two stories appeared on the same day on the front page of the paper. Of course these were two different reporters so they probably had no idea what the other was doing, but you would think the editor would catch it. A couple of years back we had that stupid Malathion spraying all over the place too. There were gallons of that stuff dropped from helicopters every night for weeks. I don't imagine that, that was all that good for anyone. They advised that you cover your car, shut your windows, and bring in any pets as well as any lawn furniture, etc. If that was important to do, I would imagine that the stuff couldn't have been that good to breathe in or anything else. Sue Sue Hi Sue You mean the newspapers in CA have heard about my research VVBG. It is ironic sometimes how when I am looking for something--suddenly it appears in the media. I know it is just because our attention switches and we notice it, but it is funny. I too would wonder if anyone has connected the two to at least examine the possibility. For one thing, it would explain how mothers were exposed to a teratogen. If they found some association, then they would have to figure out why some are protected and others not. Would make a fascinating study for some medical researcher I would think jackief -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
Re: LI Study Confirms Deficit in the Brainstem of SIDS Victims
Sue Hartigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jackie: In the first trimester. I couldn't believe my eyes this morning. On our front page there is a story about how they have found out that Nitrates are getting into our water supply via diary runoff. Down further on the page is a story on how SIDs is increasing in the county. Now maybe I am pushing the envelope on this, but do you think that someone might just think there could be a relationship in these two stories? There they were together on the front page on todays newspaper. Sue Sue This is great. Saved it in my psych. folder. I would imagine if there is no genetic link that it would likely be a teratogen. Doesn't the brain stem develop early in the pregnancy if I remember right. jackief -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Unsubscribe, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message enter: subscribe/unsubscribe law-issues
