[lazarus] Internal debugger for Lazarus
I was thinking exactly the same Yesterday I was talking about Lazarus to one of my clients, and he asked me why I am steel using Delphi... and the my answer was: 1) The internal debugger is not as usefull as the Delphi one... The most important missing feature is the Object support (evaluate or modify property values, or call methods while debugging). 2) Some thirty party components that are not currently available (currently I am using mostly JVCL) For me the debugger is the most important missing part... Is anybody working on a internal debugger for lazarus? Did anybody started such a project yet? Does anybody have something to start from? Thanks! Horacio Bogus?aw Brandys escribió: Peter Vreman wrote: If the debugger gdb can support the dwarf debug info the size of the binary will be already a lot smaller. So it isn't a problem of FPC but of the debuggers what debuginfo is supported. See below what the difference on the lazarus binary: ~/lazarus ls -l lazarus-* -rwxr-xr-x 1 pvreman kmem 25630931 Jan 15 13:00 lazarus-dwarf -rwxr-xr-x 1 pvreman kmem 74177091 Jan 15 13:02 lazarus-stabs -rwxr-xr-x 1 pvreman kmem 9423528 Jan 15 13:00 lazarus-stripped So why do not use the dwarf debug format (excuse my ignorance) ? First: Please reply at the bottom of the messages. The answer to your question was already in my reply quoted above. The debugger gdb support for dwarf was not good enough and not supported on all platforms (especially windows). It is improving, but it needs to be tested well before we can make dwarf debuginfo for some platforms the default in fpc. Peter We need a native debugger support for FPC/Lazarus programs on all platforms.That's the big issue everyone seems to avoid talking about... Boguslaw _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Internal debugger for Lazarus
An initial development this is at Lazarus\debugger\windebug\fpwd by Marc. Is it stopped? -- Att, Wanderlan Santos dos Anjos
Re: [lazarus] Internal debugger for Lazarus
Hi, 2008/1/15, Horacio Jamilis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was thinking exactly the same Yesterday I was talking about Lazarus to one of my clients, and he asked me why I am steel using Delphi... and the my answer was: 1) The internal debugger is not as usefull as the Delphi one... The most important missing feature is the Object support (evaluate or modify property values, or call methods while debugging). 2) Some thirty party components that are not currently available (currently I am using mostly JVCL) For me the debugger is the most important missing part... Is anybody working on a internal debugger for lazarus? Did anybody started such a project yet? Does anybody have something to start from? Thanks! Horacio Bogus?aw Brandys escribió: Peter Vreman wrote: If the debugger gdb can support the dwarf debug info the size of the binary will be already a lot smaller. So it isn't a problem of FPC but of the debuggers what debuginfo is supported. See below what the difference on the lazarus binary: ~/lazarus ls -l lazarus-* -rwxr-xr-x 1 pvreman kmem 25630931 Jan 15 13:00 lazarus-dwarf -rwxr-xr-x 1 pvreman kmem 74177091 Jan 15 13:02 lazarus-stabs -rwxr-xr-x 1 pvreman kmem 9423528 Jan 15 13:00 lazarus-stripped So why do not use the dwarf debug format (excuse my ignorance) ? First: Please reply at the bottom of the messages. The answer to your question was already in my reply quoted above. The debugger gdb support for dwarf was not good enough and not supported on all platforms (especially windows). It is improving, but it needs to be tested well before we can make dwarf debuginfo for some platforms the default in fpc. Peter We need a native debugger support for FPC/Lazarus programs on all platforms.That's the big issue everyone seems to avoid talking about... Boguslaw I have just suggested (on Mantis) a workaround to add the Object Property support to the current debugger. The workaround is very simple: if the debugger cannot resolve the request symbol (ex: TForm.Width) then it try to resolve the TForm.GetWidth and it also this is not resolved then try with TForm.FWidth (the same to set the property but with the TForm.SetWidthsymbol). This very simple workaround can add the Object Properties support. What do you think about? I hope to can found some time to create a patch. :) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- Best regards... Fabio Dell'Aria.
Re: [lazarus] Internal debugger for Lazarus
Wanderlan Santos dos Anjos wrote: An initial development this is at Lazarus\debugger\windebug \fpwd by Marc. Is it stopped? See my reply somwhere in the big thread with subject native debugger Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
