[Ledger-smb-devel] Changes in template directory structure for 1.3

2011-07-14 Thread Chris Travers
Hi all;

I have looked through and noticed that we have no maintained
translations for RTL langauges for which we also have templates.  For
now what I am doing is deleting all previously localized templates.
The new template structure is different enough that it isn't
necessarily required that we maintain this many different templates.

Over the next few days I expect to be auditing the demo templates we
provide and ensuring that the string translation functionality works
properly there.  Translators can then simply translate strings if the
template does not need adjusting, or can provide new templates that
can go in sub-directories of templates/demo.

If people want to review the old templates for reference purposes,
these have generally not been updated since 1.2 and are not expected
to work with 1.3.  The 1.2 tarball contains all of these.

On the whole I think this reduces the overhead for translation
considerably over the long run.  Any feedback, however, is
appreciated.

Best Wishes,
Chris Travers

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Re: [Ledger-smb-devel] Database updates

2011-07-14 Thread John Locke
Hi,


On 07/13/2011 03:15 PM, Chris Travers wrote:
 Ok, two pieces of quick feedback.

 First right now I would highly recommend that if you have to follow
 schema changes you join the ledger-smb-commits list on sourceforge.
 That will help a lot right there.

Well, with git I'm not having any trouble seeing what's changed. What I do:

1. create a tag of my current local branch
2. merge changes from upstream
3. git diff tagname sql/ and get all the schema changes.

Problem is, there have been quite a few! And so I've just been relying
on the upgrade scripts -- but some of these have failed, and I don't
think they're complete.

 Secondly, a tool to compare schemas will be helpful, and I would like
 to create one in the near future.  in the mean time, as a simple
 discussion draft, let me post the following bash code.

 rm ../testdump1.sql ../testdump2.sql
 for line in `grep -i ^create table sql/Pg-database.sql | sed -e
 's/(.*$//' | awk '{ print $3 }'`
 do pg_dump -U postgres -s -t $line database1 | grep -v GRANT |
 grep -v REVOKE  ../testdump1.sql
 done

 for line in `grep -i ^create table sql/Pg-database.sql | sed -e
 's/(.*$//' | awk '{ print $3 }'`
 do pg_dump -U postgres -s -t $line database2 | grep -v GRANT |
 grep -v REVOKE  ../testdump2.sql
 done

 diff ../testdump1.sql ../testdump2.sql

 If this sort of result is found to be acceptable, I could probably
 port the first two parts to Perl pretty easily.  Not sure about diffs
 though.

That sounds like a good start.

I'm thinking, though, that Pg-database.sql is still too big and
monolithic for this -- and the resulting dump file ought to be where you
do the initial schema load, don't you think?

Maybe have a separate file, sort of like an ini file or parsable
loadorder that can identify the type of relation and the name. e.g.

table acc_trans
table account
type _xx_xx
view chart

... etc.

This could then be fed to the dump script, instead of parsing
Pg-database.sql...

Then we can have the tables ordered in a way that will actually load
with foreign keys to tables previously defined, etc.

And as long as that's consistent, then I think diff is fine for now for
seeing what's changed... can just run the dump script, direct the output
to a tmp file, and compare against the one in the code tree.


Cheers,
John Locke
http://www.freelock.com

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Re: [Ledger-smb-devel] Database updates

2011-07-14 Thread Chris Travers
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:31 PM, John Locke m...@freelock.com wrote:
 Hi,


 On 07/13/2011 03:15 PM, Chris Travers wrote:
 Ok, two pieces of quick feedback.

 First right now I would highly recommend that if you have to follow
 schema changes you join the ledger-smb-commits list on sourceforge.
 That will help a lot right there.

 Well, with git I'm not having any trouble seeing what's changed. What I do:

 1. create a tag of my current local branch
 2. merge changes from upstream
 3. git diff tagname sql/ and get all the schema changes.

 Problem is, there have been quite a few! And so I've just been relying
 on the upgrade scripts -- but some of these have failed, and I don't
 think they're complete.

 Secondly, a tool to compare schemas will be helpful, and I would like
 to create one in the near future.  in the mean time, as a simple
 discussion draft, let me post the following bash code.

 rm ../testdump1.sql ../testdump2.sql
 for line in `grep -i ^create table sql/Pg-database.sql | sed -e
 's/(.*$//' | awk '{ print $3 }'`
     do pg_dump -U postgres -s -t $line database1 | grep -v GRANT |
 grep -v REVOKE  ../testdump1.sql
 done

 for line in `grep -i ^create table sql/Pg-database.sql | sed -e
 's/(.*$//' | awk '{ print $3 }'`
     do pg_dump -U postgres -s -t $line database2 | grep -v GRANT |
 grep -v REVOKE  ../testdump2.sql
 done

 diff ../testdump1.sql ../testdump2.sql

 If this sort of result is found to be acceptable, I could probably
 port the first two parts to Perl pretty easily.  Not sure about diffs
 though.

 That sounds like a good start.

 I'm thinking, though, that Pg-database.sql is still too big and
 monolithic for this -- and the resulting dump file ought to be where you
 do the initial schema load, don't you think?

Ok, so if we are dealing with a single database server, we could I
suppose do a load, and then dump schema dump
and then compare against a schema dump from production (filtering out
set commands and comments)

That won't give you everything  For example menu changes.. But
with menu changes, if you have any custom entries (which are often
created by addons), you can't simply import the different records, so
the update scripts have to be relied on there.  And typically the way
this works is to run the update scripts ona new database, then dump
the tables and copy them back into the Pg-database.




 Maybe have a separate file, sort of like an ini file or parsable
 loadorder that can identify the type of relation and the name. e.g.

I would REALLY like to avoid having multiple authoritative sources of
the database schema if possible.  It's very easy for those to get out
of sync.

 table acc_trans
 table account
 type _xx_xx
 view chart

 ... etc.

 This could then be fed to the dump script, instead of parsing
 Pg-database.sql...

If that's what we want., I think we'd want to automatically generate
it from the SQL files in question rather than maintain it separately.


 Then we can have the tables ordered in a way that will actually load
 with foreign keys to tables previously defined, etc.

 And as long as that's consistent, then I think diff is fine for now for
 seeing what's changed... can just run the dump script, direct the output
 to a tmp file, and compare against the one in the code tree.

Also there is a second issue here..

Column ordering is not guaranteed when alter table commands are used.
So no matter how we do it, there will be false positives that have to
be reviewed and dismissed.

Best wishes,
Chris Travers

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[Ledger-smb-devel] Strings in templates

2011-07-14 Thread Chris Travers
Hi all;

One of the issues I am running into is the issue of strings in
templates where the current templates use capital letters and extra
spacing for emphasis.

I am wondering if people have a preference for fixing this?  I would
prefer to add inline stylesheets (since links might be broken when the
document is sent) for HTML and LaTeX macros and then use these to
handle the spacing.

Any objection to doing this?  It seems it would make things a lot
easier for translators.

Best Wishes,
Chris Travers

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