Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple tagging census reports

2006-10-07 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Remember this a report you shoud not need to run
often. I run a Master Source having tagged all my
Census Sources, Or a subset, on the Source list name.
Choose Only tagged sources. Print Master Sources and
All Citations to each one. This gives a list in the
order the search list is in. Now pull out all your
hard copies, and cross off every one as you find them
on the copy of the census. When done, input the
missing, but save this. You now know what you have,
and in the future, add by hand to the list all new
census add ins, until reprinting. Then redo the
search. I have a manila folder with all of my census
source reports in it. This way, when you add new
stuff, just reprint the ones affected, and leave the
others until changed.

--- linda mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi 
 
 I want to print a report of everyone in my tree to
 see if I have entered them for all the relevant
 census that they should be recorded in. Is it
 possible to do this and if so could someone email me
 off list with step by step instructions as I am
 struggling to understand how to tag the relevant
 people.
 
 Would it be better to do one census at a time?
 although that seems to be a very long way of doing
 it.
 
 Linda
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Unspecified event with source

2006-10-07 Thread Mary Young

Hi, Jennifer
What is an Unspecified Event?
Mary Young

On 10/6/06, Jennifer Crockett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Does anyone know if there is a way I could search for any individuals
with a source for Unspecified event?

Jennifer



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Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple tagging census reports

2006-10-07 Thread Judy Wardlaw

This may help.
The following Report will show all the people individually who have one or 
more of selected Master Sources attached . However it will NOT show all 
those who have not attached the source (eg using several Census Master 
Source), which is what I think that Linda wanted.


In the Master Source List
Options -Tags/exclude.- Clear all tags from Master Sources
Back in the Master Source List, Tag all those Sources you want to see. (eg 
several census records) .

Close.
Go to Reports -Books  Other - Source Citations
In this report
Include only Tagged Sources
and in Print Options select
Master Sources and all Citations
- Include specific events
- Include citation text
Then under the Options tab check
- Numer each source
- RINs
- Source Text
Under Print Format check
- List style
- Compress the line spacing

Then Preview, Print or Create ,pdf

This will list all persons who have used each particular source, the event 
where it is used, and the citation detail

Judy

Leon Chapman wrote

2.  A nice thing about this is you can highlight multiple sources at
one time and then Show List  then your have all the people who have
been assigned one of the sources.  The downside is, you do not have
what source goes with which individual unless you do one at a time.


On 10/6/06, linda mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi

I want to print a report of everyone in my tree to see if I have entered
them for all the relevant census that they should be recorded in. Is it
possible to do this and if so could someone email me off list with step 
by
step instructions as I am struggling to understand how to tag the 
relevant

people.

Would it be better to do one census at a time? although that seems to be 
a

very long way of doing it.

Linda

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: [LegacyUG] Unspecified event with source

2006-10-07 Thread Jennifer Crockett
Thanks Rich. At least I know I am not missing something obvious.

I spent ages trying to do this. I have GENViewer and couldn't figure out
a way using that either.

Mine ended up in there after trying another program and going back to
Legacy with that database. I don't think there are many, so I will leave
it till I accidentally find them. I couldn't face going through everyone
one by one to find them.

Jennifer



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RICHARD
SCHULTHIES
Sent: Saturday, 7 October 2006 3:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unspecified event with source

NO. It took me five months to move all my sources out
to other places, and I now never put anything in
there. I asked for this to be addressed in Version 3,
but got no satisfacion, so I gave up. I like the
program so much I tolerate this problem.
Rich

--- Jennifer Crockett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Does anyone know if there is a way I could search
 for any individuals
 with a source for Unspecified event?
 
 Jennifer




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RE: [LegacyUG] Unspecified event with source

2006-10-07 Thread Jennifer Crockett
Hi Mary

It is listed at the top of the list of events for an individual when you
click the book icon, and if you have ticked Show all events. I don't
use it at all, so mine ended up there accidentally.

Jennifer


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mary
Young
Sent: Saturday, 7 October 2006 4:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unspecified event with source

Hi, Jennifer
What is an Unspecified Event?
Mary Young

On 10/6/06, Jennifer Crockett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone know if there is a way I could search for any individuals
 with a source for Unspecified event?

 Jennifer





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Re: [LegacyUG] To-Do List Enhancement Request

2006-10-07 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
The TO DO list is meant to be unorganized. (not
really, but yes.) I jse mine in a different direction
than most. I first put a code in the name for the
type, because I save the paper and ink as best as I
can. Here are some examples. Task needing Doing:
BC GER  Bittner, Carl 1829
CEN IN Eaton, Emma C. 1910 [00699]
HUS SWE Ransäter 1785-1824 Jonas Nilsson
These make the sorts more easy.
I also use the priority as a code. direct ancestors
are high. siblings are medium. cousins are low.
When I preview the list, I decide 
1. how many I can get done in the time available
2. how many I actually have waiting.
3. this tells me if I want H,M and L or just H. My To
Do list is over 1000 to be done, so I may never get to
the lows.
The internet sites are in as repositories, which is
part of the sort process. Examples would be Census
records to get off Ancestry.
I myself do not set dates to get done by. When I have
free time I go. I don't need deadlines in my hobbies.
I have taken out most of the 'heading' lines because
they are too much empty space. I have created about 60
Census catagories. One for each country and for each
year. I use research tag for all on-one callsline or
driving places, correspondence for letters, and other
is for telephone calls, newspaper articles of general
nature.
Regarding Repositories, I always try to have a print
out in my briefcase for each one, in case I find
myself near one. I try to have all my TO DOs printed
as soon as the old one has been cleaned up. This
includes having all out of state ones done. I may have
a relative mention they are going to a place, so I can
mail of email my needs, which may be our family, so
getting someone else to help you. But you must share
back.
Also what about a field as to type of task, i.e.,
 letter, phone call, internet request form, email,
interview, ILL, etc.? 
For this, I mentioned earlier, the codes in the Task
name. Once you get used to coding that area, it cleans
up a lot.
I also do a 'bad' thing, in that when I have gotten
the desired data, I delete the TO DO, instead of
keeping it around. After I have the census
transcribed, I don't care what day I found it. That
stuff goes in the Source created for the record. I
only keep open To Do's.

Rich

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Interesting and helpful!  My to-do list is a
 shambles and my research
 disorganized to say the least and I find your
 suggestions inspiring!
 
 Do you include Internet sites to search and if so
 could you post some
 examples?
 
 As far as additions, what about priority and date
 you want to get each
 item done by?
 
 I guess the person field is for the individual in
 your database to be
 researched?  Would you want to add the RIN or MRIN
 (I just read the
 article in the most recent Legacy news about
 organizing by M/RIN and was
 favorably impressed).
 
 Also it would be good to be able to sort the
 repository by city, county,
 state or perhaps some other kind of location field
 so that when you go on
 a research trip you could hit all the
 courthouses/libraries along the
 way--do you know what I'm trying to say??
 
 Also what about a field as to type of task, i.e.,
 letter, phone call,
 internet request form, email, interview, ILL, etc.?
 
 Thanks for bringing up the topic!
 
 Pat
  Hi all, I keep trying to find the best way to
 manage my lengthy to-do
  list, but there seem to be some limitations with
 Legacy and with every
  other software I have tried (most recently Clooz).
  Basically, I need
  more fields and more ways to combine and/or
 isolate data!  I think
  Legacy could be very workable with just a few
 updates.  Right now, I
  have it all in Excel.  These are the standard
 fields I have:
 
  Repository Name
  Repository Location
  Repository Type
  Repository Comments
  Source Name
  Source Type
  Source Comments
  Person(s)
  Date of Event
  Type of Record
  Comments
  Date Assigned
  Date Completed
  Next Steps
 
  Here are some examples from my list:
  Repository Name: Smyrna Library
  Repository Location: Smyrna, GA
  Repository Type: library
  Source Name: Decatur/Early, Georgia Newspaper
 Clippings
  Source Type: book
  Source Comments: [author's name, call number,
 etc.]
  Person(s): James Bird
  Date of Event: 6/15/1855
  Type of Record: obituary
  Comments: search index for obituary listing
  Date Assigned: 10/6/2006
  Date Completed:
  Next Steps: if not found, check the paper copies
 in the courthouse on next
  visit
 
  Repository Name: home of Jane Harrell Lambert
  Repository Location: Bainbridge, GA
  Repository Type: personal
  Source Name: Jane Harrell Lambert
  Source Type: personal
  Source Comments: [phone number]
  Person(s): William W. Harrell
  Date of Event: [none]
  Type of Record: photograph
  Comments: ask to see  possibly scan photo
  Date Assigned: 10/6/2006
  Date Completed
  Next Steps: call to schedule visit
 
  Repository Name: Georgia Archives
  Repository Location: Morrow, GA
  Repository Type: archives
  Source Name: Early 

Re: [LegacyUG] Unspecified event with source

2006-10-07 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I couldn't figure that out. That is why when I noticed
it, I cleaned it all out, to specified events.

--- Mary Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, Jennifer
 What is an Unspecified Event?
 Mary Young
 
 On 10/6/06, Jennifer Crockett
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does anyone know if there is a way I could search
 for any individuals
  with a source for Unspecified event?
 
  Jennifer
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Deleting Version 5 DeLuxe

2006-10-07 Thread John Murray
Hello Wendy and Jim Terry
Thanks for the advice
I have now deleted Version 5
Regards
John
Manchester
England
+++
- Original Message - 
From: Wendy Howard
Subject: Deleting Version 5 DeLuxe


 Hi John,
 How can I now delete all trace of version 5 and how should I do it
 Yes, you can delete version 5, which you've got loaded on your computer 
 separately from version 6.
Snip 
 
  Hope this helps.  :-)
 Kind Regards,
 Wendy Howard
 Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand



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Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple tagging census reports

2006-10-07 Thread ronald ferguson

Linda,

Go to SearchFindDetailed Search then fillin the first row of boxes as 
follows:


Look for Whom: Individual
Where to Look: Event-Name
How to Look: Equal to
Wat to Look For: Census
Create List and on the pop-up Click OptionsAdvance Tagging
On the new pop-up Click clear Tabs then click Everyone in Search List and 
make changes on Tag 1 and Close.

Click SearchFindDetailed Search
Look for Whom: Individual
Where to Look: Tag 1
How to Look: Equal to
Wat to Look For: Untagged
Create List
For both seraches ensure that Clear lLst is checked (they should be 
automatically)


This will give a list of people who do not have a census event

Ron Ferguson


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From: linda mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple tagging census reports
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 11:40:44 +0100

Ron,

I have census as an event with for example 1841 as the date and then I have 
sourced each entry that I can using the master source list name entry 1841 
census and in the detail I have used the reference number e.g. HO107/515/9 
folio 5 page 2


I suppose what I really want as well is to see those people who should have 
a census event as they are alive at the time and I have missed them out of 
my searches / entries


Linda

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Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Multiple tagging census reports


Linda, are your censuses stored as sources or events? If sources, is 
census the name or type, or, like me, is census included in the detail 
? To work out if it possible and how to search it is necessary to know 
where the word census is stored.


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From: linda mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Multiple tagging census reports
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 18:20:50 +0100

Hi

I want to print a report of everyone in my tree to see if I have entered 
them for all the relevant census that they should be recorded in. Is it 
possible to do this and if so could someone email me off list with step 
by step instructions as I am struggling to understand how to tag the 
relevant people.


Would it be better to do one census at a time? although that seems to be 
a very long way of doing it.


Linda

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Re: [LegacyUG] Unspecified event with source

2006-10-07 Thread Mary Young

On 10/7/06, Jennifer Crockett wrote:

Just to clarify - it is basically a source attached to a person as
opposed to an event.

Thanks, Jennifer. I must confess to using that sometimes as a
catch-all rather than attaching the same source to 5 or 6 events.
Then it shows up footnoted to the person's name.
Mary Y.


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[LegacyUG] Re: Legacy and Access

2006-10-07 Thread malkajef

Hi everyone

I have MS Access and would be very interested in this topic.  Has anything 
come of it?  I briefly searched the news archives and found nothing further 
about it.


If this is 'off topic' for this list, could Geoff or anyone write me 
privately?


Thank you.

Jeff
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Geoff Rasmussen wrote:
Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:45:14 -0700
I'd like to put together a Legacy News article
(http://www.legacynews.typepad.com) on the added benefits of using Access
with Legacy. Specifically, what are some things that you can do with Access
that Legacy, alone, cannot do?

If you have suggestions and would like to contribute, please use the Submit
News link from within the Legacy Home tab, or just visit
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/submitnews.asp

Thanks,

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Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Legacy and Access

2006-10-07 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Not sure what you want, or know, so I will start at
square one. The progam running under Legacy is Access.
If you have both programs, you can do very powerful
things. At one point, I used it to globally change the
Exclude this Master Source from Reports, as I had
checked them all, and with about 15000 entries at the
time, it was much faster than changing one at a time.
There is a 'market' for shareware add-ons of this
type, but I didn't have the time or interest. Some
macros might be desirable, Some may even be added into
future updates. You might want to join the B testers.
Rich

--- malkajef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everyone
 
 I have MS Access and would be very interested in
 this topic.  Has anything 
 come of it?  I briefly searched the news archives
 and found nothing further 
 about it.
 
 If this is 'off topic' for this list, could Geoff or
 anyone write me 
 privately?
 
 Thank you.
 
 Jeff
 --
 Geoff Rasmussen wrote:
 Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:45:14 -0700
 I'd like to put together a Legacy News article
 (http://www.legacynews.typepad.com) on the added
 benefits of using Access
 with Legacy. Specifically, what are some things that
 you can do with Access
 that Legacy, alone, cannot do?
 
 If you have suggestions and would like to
 contribute, please use the Submit
 News link from within the Legacy Home tab, or just
 visit
 http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/submitnews.asp
 
 Thanks,
 
 Geoff Rasmussen
 Millennia Corporation
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Legacy and Access

2006-10-07 Thread malkajef
Thanks Rich.  I used to know my way around MS Access though I have not used 
it for quite some time and will need to do some re-reading to get upto 
speed.  However I do have MS Access installed on my PC.


I've looked at a copy of the Legacy file in Access and started to identify 
the tables and what they are supposed to represent.  That is when I felt 
like I was rediscovering the wheel again and was sure someone had already 
done much of that and more.



There is a 'market' for shareware add-ons of this
type, but I didn't have the time or interest. Some
macros might be desirable,


That is what I was asking about from those who have created them.


Some may even be added into
future updates. You might want to join the B testers.


Would not mind doing so since I have worked extensively with computers since 
the Apple II days, though I would have to brush up on Access now that I know 
Legacy uses Access. Is the Legacy interface written in Visual Basic / 
Access?


Jeff

RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

Not sure what you want, or know, so I will start at
square one. The progam running under Legacy is Access.
If you have both programs, you can do very powerful
things. At one point, I used it to globally change the
Exclude this Master Source from Reports, as I had
checked them all, and with about 15000 entries at the
time, it was much faster than changing one at a time.
There is a 'market' for shareware add-ons of this
type, but I didn't have the time or interest. Some
macros might be desirable, Some may even be added into
future updates. You might want to join the B testers.
Rich

--- malkajef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi everyone

I have MS Access and would be very interested in
this topic.  Has anything
come of it?  I briefly searched the news archives
and found nothing further
about it.

If this is 'off topic' for this list, could Geoff or
anyone write me
privately?

Thank you.

Jeff
--
Geoff Rasmussen wrote:
Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:45:14 -0700
I'd like to put together a Legacy News article
(http://www.legacynews.typepad.com) on the added
benefits of using Access
with Legacy. Specifically, what are some things that
you can do with Access
that Legacy, alone, cannot do?

If you have suggestions and would like to
contribute, please use the Submit
News link from within the Legacy Home tab, or just
visit
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/submitnews.asp

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Legacy and Access

2006-10-07 Thread Chris Coward
Thanks Rich.  I used to know my way around MS Access though I have not 
used it for quite some time and will need to do some re-reading to get 
upto speed.  However I do have MS Access installed on my PC.


I've looked at a copy of the Legacy file in Access and started to identify 
the tables and what they are supposed to represent.  That is when I felt 
like I was rediscovering the wheel again and was sure someone had already 
done much of that and more.


You can work out the structure for yourself eventually but it is simpler and 
faster to get the info from Millenia. They will provide you with the details 
as long as you sign a non-disclosure agreement. Contact Legacy support 
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[LegacyUG] Location List Report

2006-10-07 Thread leo macdonald
When I click on the view tab, master lists, location, options, print, 
location list and then I print off a page that includes a place with a long 
address plus the Lat/Long coordinate, I find that the Lat/Long coordinate is 
printed right over the top of the location address, How can I prevent this 
from happening without using a short form for the location address.

Leo




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FW: [LegacyUG] Location List Report

2006-10-07 Thread leo macdonald





From: leo macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Location List Report
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2006 16:00:37 -0300

When I click on the view tab, master lists, location, options, print, 
location list and then I print off a page that includes a place with a long 
address plus the Lat/Long coordinate, I find that the Lat/Long coordinate 
is printed right over the top of the location address, How can I prevent 
this from happening without using a short form for the location address.

Leo




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FW: [LegacyUG] Location List Report

2006-10-07 Thread leo macdonald


When I click on the view tab, master lists, location, options, print, 
location list and then I print off a page that includes a place with a long 
address plus the Lat/Long coordinate, I find that the Lat/Long coordinate 
is printed right over the top of the location address, How can I prevent 
this from happening without using a short form for the location address.

Leo





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Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple tagging census reports

2006-10-07 Thread linda mason

Ron  everyone who sent replies,
Thanks for your help. I will take some time out to go through my lists and 
update my tree

Linda
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Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple tagging census reports



Linda,

Go to SearchFindDetailed Search then fillin the first row of boxes as 
follows:


Look for Whom: Individual
Where to Look: Event-Name
How to Look: Equal to
Wat to Look For: Census
Create List and on the pop-up Click OptionsAdvance Tagging
On the new pop-up Click clear Tabs then click Everyone in Search List and 
make changes on Tag 1 and Close.

Click SearchFindDetailed Search
Look for Whom: Individual
Where to Look: Tag 1
How to Look: Equal to
Wat to Look For: Untagged
Create List
For both seraches ensure that Clear lLst is checked (they should be 
automatically)


This will give a list of people who do not have a census event

Ron Ferguson


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From: linda mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple tagging census reports
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2006 11:40:44 +0100

Ron,

I have census as an event with for example 1841 as the date and then I 
have sourced each entry that I can using the master source list name entry 
1841 census and in the detail I have used the reference number e.g. 
HO107/515/9 folio 5 page 2


I suppose what I really want as well is to see those people who should 
have a census event as they are alive at the time and I have missed them 
out of my searches / entries


Linda

- Original Message - From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:01 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Multiple tagging census reports


Linda, are your censuses stored as sources or events? If sources, is 
census the name or type, or, like me, is census included in the 
detail ? To work out if it possible and how to search it is necessary to 
know where the word census is stored.


Ron Ferguson



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From: linda mason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Multiple tagging census reports
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 18:20:50 +0100

Hi

I want to print a report of everyone in my tree to see if I have entered 
them for all the relevant census that they should be recorded in. Is it 
possible to do this and if so could someone email me off list with step 
by step instructions as I am struggling to understand how to tag the 
relevant people.


Would it be better to do one census at a time? although that seems to be 
a very long way of doing it.


Linda

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Re: FW: [LegacyUG] Location List Report

2006-10-07 Thread Mike Fry

leo macdonald wrote:


What am I doing wrong?


What? Besides posting the same message 8 times?

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[LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

2006-10-07 Thread Lisa Young
I've noticed that in vital event sentences in reports, the comma is 
missing after the last place name part. For example:


Report shows:
John died in Los Angeles, California on 2 December 1950.

Should read:
John died in Los Angeles, California, on 2 December 1950.

I can hard wire that comma into the sentence definitions of other events 
But that's a lot of work to do to all events. And we can't edit vital 
event sentence definitions.


Perhaps usage/style is different in various countries, so that this 
formatting should be tied to language, but in the US that last comma is 
standard and the narrative looks sloppy without it.


But I'm hoping I've just set something wrong somewhere and someone can 
point me to it ...


Thank you!
Lisa


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RE: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

2006-10-07 Thread Jack Earnshaw
It looks fine in English English. What is the purpose of the second comma?

Jack


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Young
Sent: 07 October 2006 23:54
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports


I've noticed that in vital event sentences in reports, the comma is
missing after the last place name part. For example:

Report shows:
John died in Los Angeles, California on 2 December 1950.

Should read:
John died in Los Angeles, California, on 2 December 1950.

I can hard wire that comma into the sentence definitions of other events
But that's a lot of work to do to all events. And we can't edit vital
event sentence definitions.

Perhaps usage/style is different in various countries, so that this
formatting should be tied to language, but in the US that last comma is
standard and the narrative looks sloppy without it.

But I'm hoping I've just set something wrong somewhere and someone can
point me to it ...

Thank you!
Lisa


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RE: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

2006-10-07 Thread Robert Carneal
What version are you using? -Robert

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 2006-10-07 17:54
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

I've noticed that in vital event sentences in reports, the comma is
missing after the last place name part. For example:

Report shows:
John died in Los Angeles, California on 2 December 1950.

Should read:
John died in Los Angeles, California, on 2 December 1950.

I can hard wire that comma into the sentence definitions of other events
But that's a lot of work to do to all events. And we can't edit vital
event sentence definitions.

Perhaps usage/style is different in various countries, so that this
formatting should be tied to language, but in the US that last comma is
standard and the narrative looks sloppy without it.

But I'm hoping I've just set something wrong somewhere and someone can
point me to it ...

Thank you!
Lisa



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Re: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

2006-10-07 Thread Jenny M Benson

Lisa Young wrote

Report shows:
John died in Los Angeles, California on 2 December 1950.

Should read:
John died in Los Angeles, California, on 2 December 1950.

I can hard wire that comma into the sentence definitions of other 
events But that's a lot of work to do to all events. And we can't edit 
vital event sentence definitions.


Perhaps usage/style is different in various countries, so that this 
formatting should be tied to language, but in the US that last comma is 
standard and the narrative looks sloppy without it.


I think usage/style *must* differ, at least between people if not 
countries because I would say that  your second example with the 
additional comma is quite wrong.  It looks very ugly to me and the comma 
is quite superfluous:  it is not necessary to make sense of the sentence 
and it sounds a bit odd if one reads the sentence with a comma-pause at 
that point.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

2006-10-07 Thread Nicholas Cirillo
I disagree. I believe the comma after California is not proper punctuation.  Nick Cirillo  Fairfax VARobert Carneal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  What version are you using? -Robert-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lisa YoungSent: 2006-10-07 17:54To: LegacyUserGroupSubject: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reportsI've noticed that in vital event sentences in reports, the comma ismissing after the last place name part. For example:Report shows:John died in Los Angeles, California on 2 December 1950.Should read:John died in Los Angeles, California, on 2 December 1950.I can hard wire that comma into the sentence definitions of other
 eventsBut that's a lot of work to do to all events. And we can't edit vitalevent sentence definitions.Perhaps usage/style is different in various countries, so that thisformatting should be tied to language, but in the US that last comma isstandard and the narrative looks sloppy without it.But I'm hoping I've just set something wrong somewhere and someone canpoint me to it ...Thank you!LisaLegacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspTo find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp


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Re: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

2006-10-07 Thread Judy



One Source for Comma Rules

 http://www.northland.cc.mn.us/owl/comma_rules.htm

As with everything, add a grain of 
salt




  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Nicholas 
  Cirillo 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  
  Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 7:43 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Place name 
  punctuation in reports
  
  I disagree. I believe the comma after California is not proper 
  punctuation.
  Nick Cirillo
  Fairfax VARobert Carneal [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  What 
version are you using? -Robert-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Behalf Of Lisa YoungSent: 2006-10-07 17:54To: 
LegacyUserGroupSubject: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in 
reportsI've noticed that in vital event sentences in reports, the 
comma ismissing after the last place name part. For 
example:Report shows:John died in Los Angeles, California on 2 
December 1950.Should read:John died in Los Angeles, California, 
on 2 December 1950.I can hard wire that comma into the sentence 
definitions of other eventsBut that's a lot of work to do to all events. 
And we can't edit vitalevent sentence definitions.Perhaps 
usage/style is different in various countries, so that thisformatting 
should be tied to language, but in the US that last comma isstandard and 
the narrative looks sloppy without it.But I'm hoping I've just set 
something wrong somewhere and someone canpoint me to it ...Thank 
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Re: [LegacyUG] 1850 census page numbers

2006-10-07 Thread JRAYMOND651
Janis,
That is what I do.  You can  always add a comment for the census year source 
explaining what you've  done.

Jon Raymond
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RE: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

2006-10-07 Thread pph929
As an ex-editor, I think you'll find that any well-edited will set off the
state (or the county) with commas at both ends (just as you put in a
closing parenthesis or bracket when you have an opening one.

Lynne Truss's delightful bestseller on punctuation, Eats, Shoots 
Leaves, (c2003) explains the reason for Commas that come in pairs as
follows:

This is where comma usage all starts getting tricky. The first rule of
bracketing commas is that you use them to mark both ends of a weak
interruption to a sentence – or a piece of additional information. The
commas mark the places where the reader can –as it were – place an elegant
two-pronged fork and cleanly lift out a section of the sentence, leaving
no obvious damage to the whole. Thus:

John Keats, who never did any harm to anyone, is often invoked by
grammarians.
I am, of course, going steadily nuts.
Nicholas Nickleby, published in 1839, uses a great many commas.
The Queen, who has double the number of birthdays of most people,
celebrated yet another birthday.

In all these cases, the bits between the commas can be removed, leaving
the sentence arguably less interesting, but grammatically entire.  As with
other paired bracketing devices (such as parentheses, dashes and quotation
marks), there is actual mental cruelty involved, incidentally, in opening
up a pair of commas and then neglecting to deliver the closing one. The
reader hears the first shoe drop and then strains in agony to hear the
second. In dramatic terms, it's like putting a gun on the mantelpiece in
Act I and then having the heroine drown herself quietly offstage in the
bath during the interval. It's just not cricket. Take the example, The
Highland Terrier is the cutest, and perhaps the best of all dog species.
Sensitive people trained to listen for the second comma (after best)
find themselves quite stranded by that kind of thing.  They feel cheated
and giddy.  In very bad cases, they fall over.

So, if you don't object to a sentence like
Mary (who used to be my best friend is my worst enemy.
then by all means leave out the closing comma!

Pat



 I disagree. I believe the comma after California is not proper
 punctuation.
   Nick Cirillo
   Fairfax VA

 Robert Carneal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   What version are you using? -Robert

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lisa Young
 Sent: 2006-10-07 17:54
 To: LegacyUserGroup
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

 I've noticed that in vital event sentences in reports, the comma is
 missing after the last place name part. For example:

 Report shows:
 John died in Los Angeles, California on 2 December 1950.

 Should read:
 John died in Los Angeles, California, on 2 December 1950.

 I can hard wire that comma into the sentence definitions of other events
 But that's a lot of work to do to all events. And we can't edit vital
 event sentence definitions.

 Perhaps usage/style is different in various countries, so that this
 formatting should be tied to language, but in the US that last comma is
 standard and the narrative looks sloppy without it.

 But I'm hoping I've just set something wrong somewhere and someone can
 point me to it ...

 Thank you!
 Lisa



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Re: [LegacyUG]--Sourcing problem-Copying events and sources by clipboard

2006-10-07 Thread pph929
Dave wrote
 In order to get Prompt for Detail functionality with Event Clipboard
 pastings it is necessary for the user to first copy that event's
 source and detail to the Source Clipboard and to set the Prompt for
 Detail.


Dave, this is the whole point of what I'm complaining about.

I do copy that event's Source and Detail to the Source clipboard and set
the Prompt for Detail, but when I paste in the Event it does NOT prompt
for the detail.  If, after pasting in the Event, I then click the bar icon
and change the detail, I'm going to have two sources for the same event,
am I not?

Pat

 On 7 Oct 2006  Judy Wardlaw wrote:

 Am I not understanding this problem?
 When I add a source from the clipboard, I click on the event in
 Assigned Sources window (show all events ticked), click the blue [-],
 Click Edit Detail (Right upper side).

 The problem is that users seem to be thinking of *the* clipboard when
 there are actually three of them.  It is important that users do not
 confuse them otherwise they could be pasting incorrect information.

 There is the Windows clipboard.  Then Legacy has a Source Clipboard
 and also an Event Clipboard.

 The confusion that's arising is between Legacy's Source Clipboard,
 which has a Prompt for Detail option, and Legacy's Event Clipboard,
 which does *not* have a Prompt for Detail option.  These two Legacy
 clipboards are not connected in any way and may contain totally
 different data.

 Legacy's Event Clipboard is merely a pointer to a previously saved
 event, complete with its source and any *existing* source detail.

 In order to get Prompt for Detail functionality with Event Clipboard
 pastings it is necessary for the user to first copy that event's
 source and detail to the Source Clipboard and to set the Prompt for
 Detail.

 Cheers, -- Dave N
 --
   David Naylor, Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada.
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Re: [LegacyUG]--Sourcing problem-Copying events and sources by clipboard

2006-10-07 Thread Cathy

Yes Pat - you'd end up with two copies of the one source with different detail.
The Event Clipboard isn't so relevant for your situation. You may 
rather use the Repeat functions for each field and the Source 
Clipboard. Of course, to do that you have to go straight from 
entering for one person to the next and not stop to enter other things.


The idea of the Event Clipboard is to copy an event with its sources 
to someone else. In my case the detail is never different as I 
minimise differences in detail to minimise the number of times the 
source prints in reports. I put the detail for all people for whom 
that event is relevant in the source to begin with - eg details for 
the whole census household in the source detail text.


The Source Clipboard is completely separate. The Event Clipboard 
isn't reading the source from the Source Clipboard but from the 
Assigned Sources for the Event it is copying.


Cathy
holidaying in Dunsborough and Margaret River, West Aust. :-)

At 09:27 AM 8/10/2006, you wrote:


Dave wrote
 In order to get Prompt for Detail functionality with Event Clipboard
 pastings it is necessary for the user to first copy that event's
 source and detail to the Source Clipboard and to set the Prompt for
 Detail.


Dave, this is the whole point of what I'm complaining about.

I do copy that event's Source and Detail to the Source clipboard and set
the Prompt for Detail, but when I paste in the Event it does NOT prompt
for the detail.  If, after pasting in the Event, I then click the bar icon
and change the detail, I'm going to have two sources for the same event,
am I not?

Pat




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Re: [LegacyUG] To-Do List Enhancement Request

2006-10-07 Thread pph929
Lots of good ideas, Rich.  Thanks!

Pat

 The TO DO list is meant to be unorganized. (not
 really, but yes.) I jse mine in a different direction
 than most. I first put a code in the name for the
 type, because I save the paper and ink as best as I
 can. Here are some examples. Task needing Doing:
 BC GER  Bittner, Carl 1829
 CEN IN Eaton, Emma C. 1910 [00699]
 HUS SWE Ransäter 1785-1824 Jonas Nilsson
 These make the sorts more easy.
 I also use the priority as a code. direct ancestors
 are high. siblings are medium. cousins are low.
 When I preview the list, I decide
 1. how many I can get done in the time available
 2. how many I actually have waiting.
 3. this tells me if I want H,M and L or just H. My To
 Do list is over 1000 to be done, so I may never get to
 the lows.
 The internet sites are in as repositories, which is
 part of the sort process. Examples would be Census
 records to get off Ancestry.
 I myself do not set dates to get done by. When I have
 free time I go. I don't need deadlines in my hobbies.
 I have taken out most of the 'heading' lines because
 they are too much empty space. I have created about 60
 Census catagories. One for each country and for each
 year. I use research tag for all on-one callsline or
 driving places, correspondence for letters, and other
 is for telephone calls, newspaper articles of general
 nature.
 Regarding Repositories, I always try to have a print
 out in my briefcase for each one, in case I find
 myself near one. I try to have all my TO DOs printed
 as soon as the old one has been cleaned up. This
 includes having all out of state ones done. I may have
 a relative mention they are going to a place, so I can
 mail of email my needs, which may be our family, so
 getting someone else to help you. But you must share
 back.
 Also what about a field as to type of task, i.e.,
  letter, phone call, internet request form, email,
 interview, ILL, etc.? 
 For this, I mentioned earlier, the codes in the Task
 name. Once you get used to coding that area, it cleans
 up a lot.
 I also do a 'bad' thing, in that when I have gotten
 the desired data, I delete the TO DO, instead of
 keeping it around. After I have the census
 transcribed, I don't care what day I found it. That
 stuff goes in the Source created for the record. I
 only keep open To Do's.

 Rich

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Interesting and helpful!  My to-do list is a
 shambles and my research
 disorganized to say the least and I find your
 suggestions inspiring!

 Do you include Internet sites to search and if so
 could you post some
 examples?

 As far as additions, what about priority and date
 you want to get each
 item done by?

 I guess the person field is for the individual in
 your database to be
 researched?  Would you want to add the RIN or MRIN
 (I just read the
 article in the most recent Legacy news about
 organizing by M/RIN and was
 favorably impressed).

 Also it would be good to be able to sort the
 repository by city, county,
 state or perhaps some other kind of location field
 so that when you go on
 a research trip you could hit all the
 courthouses/libraries along the
 way--do you know what I'm trying to say??

 Also what about a field as to type of task, i.e.,
 letter, phone call,
 internet request form, email, interview, ILL, etc.?

 Thanks for bringing up the topic!

 Pat
  Hi all, I keep trying to find the best way to
 manage my lengthy to-do
  list, but there seem to be some limitations with
 Legacy and with every
  other software I have tried (most recently Clooz).
  Basically, I need
  more fields and more ways to combine and/or
 isolate data!  I think
  Legacy could be very workable with just a few
 updates.  Right now, I
  have it all in Excel.  These are the standard
 fields I have:
 
  Repository Name
  Repository Location
  Repository Type
  Repository Comments
  Source Name
  Source Type
  Source Comments
  Person(s)
  Date of Event
  Type of Record
  Comments
  Date Assigned
  Date Completed
  Next Steps
 
  Here are some examples from my list:
  Repository Name: Smyrna Library
  Repository Location: Smyrna, GA
  Repository Type: library
  Source Name: Decatur/Early, Georgia Newspaper
 Clippings
  Source Type: book
  Source Comments: [author's name, call number,
 etc.]
  Person(s): James Bird
  Date of Event: 6/15/1855
  Type of Record: obituary
  Comments: search index for obituary listing
  Date Assigned: 10/6/2006
  Date Completed:
  Next Steps: if not found, check the paper copies
 in the courthouse on next
  visit
 
  Repository Name: home of Jane Harrell Lambert
  Repository Location: Bainbridge, GA
  Repository Type: personal
  Source Name: Jane Harrell Lambert
  Source Type: personal
  Source Comments: [phone number]
  Person(s): William W. Harrell
  Date of Event: [none]
  Type of Record: photograph
  Comments: ask to see  possibly scan photo
  Date Assigned: 10/6/2006
  Date Completed
  Next Steps: call to schedule visit
 
  Repository Name: Georgia Archives
  

Re: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

2006-10-07 Thread Wm Voss
This, however, is not a case of weak interruption and Ms Truss' rule 
does not apply.


You might also note that there is no excuse for anything ending ss's

Wm Voss


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


As an ex-editor, I think you'll find that any well-edited will set off the
state (or the county) with commas at both ends (just as you put in a
closing parenthesis or bracket when you have an opening one.

Lynne Truss's delightful bestseller on punctuation, Eats, Shoots 
Leaves, (c2003) explains the reason for Commas that come in pairs as
follows:

This is where comma usage all starts getting tricky. The first rule of
bracketing commas is that you use them to mark both ends of a weak
interruption to a sentence – or a piece of additional information. The
commas mark the places where the reader can –as it were – place an elegant
two-pronged fork and cleanly lift out a section of the sentence, leaving
no obvious damage to the whole. Thus:

John Keats, who never did any harm to anyone, is often invoked by
grammarians.
I am, of course, going steadily nuts.
Nicholas Nickleby, published in 1839, uses a great many commas.
The Queen, who has double the number of birthdays of most people,
celebrated yet another birthday.

In all these cases, the bits between the commas can be removed, leaving
the sentence arguably less interesting, but grammatically entire.  As with
other paired bracketing devices (such as parentheses, dashes and quotation
marks), there is actual mental cruelty involved, incidentally, in opening
up a pair of commas and then neglecting to deliver the closing one. The
reader hears the first shoe drop and then strains in agony to hear the
second. In dramatic terms, it's like putting a gun on the mantelpiece in
Act I and then having the heroine drown herself quietly offstage in the
bath during the interval. It's just not cricket. Take the example, The
Highland Terrier is the cutest, and perhaps the best of all dog species.
Sensitive people trained to listen for the second comma (after best)
find themselves quite stranded by that kind of thing.  They feel cheated
and giddy.  In very bad cases, they fall over.

So, if you don't object to a sentence like
Mary (who used to be my best friend is my worst enemy.
then by all means leave out the closing comma!

Pat



 


I disagree. I believe the comma after California is not proper
punctuation.
 Nick Cirillo
 Fairfax VA

Robert Carneal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What version are you using? -Robert

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 2006-10-07 17:54
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

I've noticed that in vital event sentences in reports, the comma is
missing after the last place name part. For example:

Report shows:
John died in Los Angeles, California on 2 December 1950.

Should read:
John died in Los Angeles, California, on 2 December 1950.

I can hard wire that comma into the sentence definitions of other events
But that's a lot of work to do to all events. And we can't edit vital
event sentence definitions.

Perhaps usage/style is different in various countries, so that this
formatting should be tied to language, but in the US that last comma is
standard and the narrative looks sloppy without it.

But I'm hoping I've just set something wrong somewhere and someone can
point me to it ...

Thank you!
Lisa



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Re: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

2006-10-07 Thread pph929
It does seem to fall within additional information, however.

I don't really need an excuse for ss's -- the reason is that that's
how it's pronounced -- by me at least.

Pat

 This, however, is not a case of weak interruption and Ms Truss' rule
 does not apply.

 You might also note that there is no excuse for anything ending ss's

 Wm Voss


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

As an ex-editor, I think you'll find that any well-edited will set off
 the
state (or the county) with commas at both ends (just as you put in a
closing parenthesis or bracket when you have an opening one.

Lynne Truss's delightful bestseller on punctuation, Eats, Shoots 
Leaves, (c2003) explains the reason for Commas that come in pairs as
follows:

This is where comma usage all starts getting tricky. The first rule of
bracketing commas is that you use them to mark both ends of a weak
interruption to a sentence – or a piece of additional information. The
commas mark the places where the reader can –as it were – place an
 elegant
two-pronged fork and cleanly lift out a section of the sentence, leaving
no obvious damage to the whole. Thus:

John Keats, who never did any harm to anyone, is often invoked by
grammarians.
I am, of course, going steadily nuts.
Nicholas Nickleby, published in 1839, uses a great many commas.
The Queen, who has double the number of birthdays of most people,
celebrated yet another birthday.

In all these cases, the bits between the commas can be removed, leaving
the sentence arguably less interesting, but grammatically entire.  As
 with
other paired bracketing devices (such as parentheses, dashes and
 quotation
marks), there is actual mental cruelty involved, incidentally, in opening
up a pair of commas and then neglecting to deliver the closing one. The
reader hears the first shoe drop and then strains in agony to hear the
second. In dramatic terms, it's like putting a gun on the mantelpiece in
Act I and then having the heroine drown herself quietly offstage in the
bath during the interval. It's just not cricket. Take the example, The
Highland Terrier is the cutest, and perhaps the best of all dog species.
Sensitive people trained to listen for the second comma (after best)
find themselves quite stranded by that kind of thing.  They feel cheated
and giddy.  In very bad cases, they fall over.

So, if you don't object to a sentence like
Mary (who used to be my best friend is my worst enemy.
then by all means leave out the closing comma!

Pat





I disagree. I believe the comma after California is not proper
punctuation.
  Nick Cirillo
  Fairfax VA

Robert Carneal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What version are you using? -Robert

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lisa
 Young
Sent: 2006-10-07 17:54
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

I've noticed that in vital event sentences in reports, the comma is
missing after the last place name part. For example:

Report shows:
John died in Los Angeles, California on 2 December 1950.

Should read:
John died in Los Angeles, California, on 2 December 1950.

I can hard wire that comma into the sentence definitions of other events
But that's a lot of work to do to all events. And we can't edit vital
event sentence definitions.

Perhaps usage/style is different in various countries, so that this
formatting should be tied to language, but in the US that last comma is
standard and the narrative looks sloppy without it.

But I'm hoping I've just set something wrong somewhere and someone can
point me to it ...

Thank you!
Lisa



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Re: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

2006-10-07 Thread Mary G Moyer
I am also a former editor and teacher, and in every book on grammar I've
seen, the comma after the name of the state is required to set off the
elements of the sentence. This is a very common mistake for people to
make.

Mary


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Re: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

2006-10-07 Thread Lisa Young

Hi Robert, I have 6.0, latest build, deluxe.

Thanks, Lisa

Robert Carneal wrote:

What version are you using? -Robert

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 2006-10-07 17:54
To: LegacyUserGroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

I've noticed that in vital event sentences in reports, the comma is
missing after the last place name part. For example:

Report shows:
John died in Los Angeles, California on 2 December 1950.

Should read:
John died in Los Angeles, California, on 2 December 1950.

I can hard wire that comma into the sentence definitions of other events
But that's a lot of work to do to all events. And we can't edit vital
event sentence definitions.

Perhaps usage/style is different in various countries, so that this
formatting should be tied to language, but in the US that last comma is
standard and the narrative looks sloppy without it.

But I'm hoping I've just set something wrong somewhere and someone can
point me to it ...

Thank you!
Lisa




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[LegacyUG] How I handle data entry problems etc [originally no subject]

2006-10-07 Thread Susan Daily

Pat, this is how I do it to make my life easier.

1.  I enter a date that I figure is the best guestimate. In the birth
notes window, I use [[privacy brackets]] to indicate all the alternate
birth dates given, ie:
[[Variations on birthdate:
1860 1 Jun US Census age 21 - so 1838.
1866 10 Aug Marriage record age 26 - so 1840.
1867 12 Oct NA papers 5 Jun 1840.
1870 14 Jul US Census age 32 - so 1838.
1880 1 Jun US Census age 39 - so 1840.
1900 US Census June 1845.
1903 1 Sep Obituary age 55 - so 1848.]]

I originally picked 5 Jun 1838 as his birthdate, but later I found his
baptism record as 22 Jun 1834, so changed it to 5 Jun 1834.

2. I don't know that I would enter anything until I do some original
research to figure it out. I wouldn't want to post it to the internet,
and perpetuate something incorrect. I would certainly enter both
names, what my sources were, and what I've done to figure out which is
correct in the Research Notes tab.

3.  I enter the actual place of death since it is actually very
important if you wish to try to find a death record. In events, I
enter residence up to the time of death.

4. I enter the place of burial in the burial field, but don't enter
anything under death location if I don't know. But I don't use
Pedigree reports much at all.

5. I usually enter a birth place COUNTRY if I don't have any other
info, other than that is where the parents were living. The earlier
the timeframe, I do tend to use the county or town as the place of
birth, since travel just was not done as much. If you know the mother
came from another county, then you should put something in the birth
notes that it is probable they were born where listed, but possible
she could have gone to xx county for the birth. I think that makes the
narrative interesting, too.

6. Maybe someone else can guide you here - I just enter stuff in
Research Notes for my own use and indicate what the source is if it
isn't obvious. I source it, and don't worry about having too many
sources. I don't print my research notes for general consumption.

Hope some of this helps. It is what I like to do, others will have
their own methods. No one is right or wrong.

Susan


On 10/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Some other sourcing and data problems:

How do you handle these:

1) E.g., for birth info, you get the place from one source, the year from
another, the exact date from another, yet Legacy doe not make it clear as
to which source goes with which data.  I can of course add it in the
detail, but I wish that could be done automatically-- i.e., with
superscript numerals.  I suppose that would get way too complicated.

2) You get back 6 generations and have two different sets of parents for
the same individual -- picked up from someone else's research and no
sources for either.  How do you enter the info when you have no idea which
is correct -- if either?

3) Where a person dies is not usually so important as where he was living
at the time of his death, and just because he was living in County X
doesn't mean that he died in County X.  How do you handle that kind of
info?

4) You know where he was buried,but you don't know where he died. Yet
burial info doesn't show e.g., on a pedigree report.

5) Since his parents lived their entire lives in County X, it's reasonable
to assume he was born there, but his mother could have gone to visit her
mother in County Y for the delivery.  How do you handle info that is
PROBABLY true but you don't really have any way of KNOWING? It's
disconcerting not to have ANY idea where someone was living.

6) For your research Notes you've used 5 different sources, yet the
research sources just lump them all together.   (In the research notes I
always give the source and date I am entering the info, then give the info
itself, and separate each batch of info with a string of plus signs before
entering something from a different source.  But this won't make very
smooth reading.  I don't suppose there's anyway of attaching a WordPerfect
or even .pdf document with standard documentation in lieu of the Research
notes.  I suppose one could create and paste in a Word/WordPerfect
document, use numbers in parentheses instead of superscript numerals and
have the sources/endnotes at the end  and then also enter the sources
separately in the usual way so they'll show up in a bibliography/Master
Source List.  Does anyone have another way of handling this matter?

I'll appreciate ideas/practices on any of these!

Pat



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Re: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports

2006-10-07 Thread Lisa Young
I'm in no position to argue the merits of a particular punctuation 
standard, I would just like to observe it :-)


It's what I was always taught in school, and what a quick review of 
several sources confirmed. I rather expected the standards would be 
different in different countries.


Simply allowing us to edit vital event sentences (both to change the 
standard sentence and to override in special instances) the same as 
we're allowed to edit other event sentences, would solve (or at least 
provide a work-around) to this and other problems too.


The divorce sentence (This marriage ended in divorce) is another one 
that family members reading reports never like, and one where 
customization to each circumstance would be especially valuable in reports.


Lisa

Jack Earnshaw wrote:

It looks fine in English English. What is the purpose of the second comma?

Jack


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Subject: [LegacyUG] Place name punctuation in reports


I've noticed that in vital event sentences in reports, the comma is
missing after the last place name part. For example:

Report shows:
John died in Los Angeles, California on 2 December 1950.

Should read:
John died in Los Angeles, California, on 2 December 1950.

I can hard wire that comma into the sentence definitions of other events
But that's a lot of work to do to all events. And we can't edit vital
event sentence definitions.

Perhaps usage/style is different in various countries, so that this
formatting should be tied to language, but in the US that last comma is
standard and the narrative looks sloppy without it.

But I'm hoping I've just set something wrong somewhere and someone can
point me to it ...

Thank you!
Lisa




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Re: [LegacyUG]

2006-10-07 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
When I have a split info source, in the detail I put
'only date' or 'only place', I also have a source
called My Guesses. In the notes for this I explain
what I did and WHY An example is a birth date for a
wife with no clues, I make her 2-5 years younger,
rounding to a multiple of 5 years. If I later get a
real date, I know to lose my guess right away.
Rich

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some other sourcing and data problems:
 
 How do you handle these:
 
 1) E.g., for birth info, you get the place from one
 source, the year from
 another, the exact date from another, yet Legacy doe
 not make it clear as
 to which source goes with which data.  I can of
 course add it in the
 detail, but I wish that could be done
 automatically-- i.e., with
 superscript numerals.  I suppose that would get way
 too complicated.
 
 2) You get back 6 generations and have two different
 sets of parents for
 the same individual -- picked up from someone else's
 research and no
 sources for either.  How do you enter the info when
 you have no idea which
 is correct -- if either?
 
 3) Where a person dies is not usually so important
 as where he was living
 at the time of his death, and just because he was
 living in County X
 doesn't mean that he died in County X.  How do you
 handle that kind of
 info?
 
 4) You know where he was buried,but you don't know
 where he died. Yet
 burial info doesn't show e.g., on a pedigree report.
 
 5) Since his parents lived their entire lives in
 County X, it's reasonable
 to assume he was born there, but his mother could
 have gone to visit her
 mother in County Y for the delivery.  How do you
 handle info that is
 PROBABLY true but you don't really have any way of
 KNOWING? It's
 disconcerting not to have ANY idea where someone was
 living.
 
 6) For your research Notes you've used 5 different
 sources, yet the
 research sources just lump them all together.   (In
 the research notes I
 always give the source and date I am entering the
 info, then give the info
 itself, and separate each batch of info with a
 string of plus signs before
 entering something from a different source.  But
 this won't make very
 smooth reading.  I don't suppose there's anyway of
 attaching a WordPerfect
 or even .pdf document with standard documentation in
 lieu of the Research
 notes.  I suppose one could create and paste in a
 Word/WordPerfect
 document, use numbers in parentheses instead of
 superscript numerals and
 have the sources/endnotes at the end  and then also
 enter the sources
 separately in the usual way so they'll show up in a
 bibliography/Master
 Source List.  Does anyone have another way of
 handling this matter?
 
 I'll appreciate ideas/practices on any of these!
 
 Pat
 
 
 
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[LegacyUG] Titles in Sources

2006-10-07 Thread Laurel Feal
Hi, I have Legacy Deluxe Version 6.0.0.110.   In my sources I have been 
formatting the title as either Italicized (published), or Quotes 
(unpublished) as needed, however, although this shows correctly on Legacy, I 
just noticed on printed reports, that the Titles print in plain text? (not 
quoted or italicized).  Is there something else I should be doing?  Thanks, 
Laurel





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Re: [LegacyUG] 1850 census page numbers

2006-10-07 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
To my best information, that was what the people at
the time did, or thought was meant. I have had to
count in a book with no page numbers, so I numbered my
copy. The bottom line is making it easy for future
recipients of your work.
Rich

--- Janis Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What do you do for the pages that have no numbers -
 sometimes it's every other page. Do you take the
 page number on the page before and add a b?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Janis Walker Gilmore
 Pawleys Island, SC  Seattle, WA
 
 
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