[LegacyUG] Re 1/2 siblings

2007-01-10 Thread Elizabeth Bray
Thank you Kay - those boxes were already ticked and not working.

Thank you Ron - once I right clicked on the child and followed your steps, the 
half siblings appeared.

Thanks for your help

Liz


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RE: [LegacyUG] 1/2 siblings

2007-01-10 Thread ronald ferguson

Not to worry Dalene, we all have blind spots from time to time :-)

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 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] 1/2 siblings
 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 18:29:50 -0800
 
 Oh my goodness, talk about stupidity on my part
 
 THANK YOU SO MUCH RON
 
 It finally works
 
 Darlene
 
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 Elizabeth,
 
 Right Click on any child, then View and click show 1/2 kids
 
 Ron Ferguson
 
 
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  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] 1/2 siblings
  Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 10:11:39 +1100
  
  I recently lost the data from my hard drive, and when I reinstalled Legacy
 I no longer get the 1/2 siblings showing up.  I have tried to find out how
 to put them back on, but have had no success.  As there is a discussion at
 the moment regarding 1/2 siblings maybe someone can point me in the right
 direction?
  Liz

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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template

2007-01-10 Thread ronald ferguson

Elizabeth,

Using Legacy as you do I am less than sure that the Delux version will offer 
you very much.

The point is that Legacy is a relationship database and the delux version 
offers many more ways of searching and presenting the various relationships, be 
it in time, location, family etc. Most of these would not work properly with 
your set-up.

I think you have sacrificed a lot for the sake of convenience of viewing 
everything on one page but having said that, I respect your choice and would 
not wish to unduely influence you.

Ron Ferguson


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 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 21:36:38 -0800
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
 Thank you to all who have replied to my email.
 
 I guess having a lot of master sources isn't as big a
 problem as I thought since some of you have many in
 your legacy programs.
 
 But I'd like to know a little more about the deluxe
 version as mentioned in an email from Cathy (below).
 The cost of the deluxe version is prohibitive but may
 be possible in the future. Does it allow you to show
 ALL the information from census records, death
 certificates, etc etc etc in one place, at one time,
 so that there is no need to be clicking boxes, opening
 tabs etc?
 
 I realize that the way I am doing this in the free
 version is probably strange but it is sooo
 easy for me to be able to just open the Research tab
 and have everything right there in one place to look
 at while searching online. I can see at a glance which
 census records I have and all the data they include,
 plus all the other records and their data. I can see
 whether I have found a service record and what it said
 or a birth record at Ancestry/Genealogy/Etc and what
 was included in that record. This saves me so much
 time and repetition if I am looking for additional
 information about an ancestor or even someone listed
 in the census with them, or any other ancestor
 mentioned in any of their records, or locations where
 I might find them and so on. It's all right there in
 front of me.
 
 I definitely don't want to be printing out a lot of
 the information and have to sort through it or find a
 place to file it. I guess I'm wondering if the deluxe
 version has this ability. I don't want just the
 'Events' of a person's life to show, I also want all
 the data from all records right there to look at as I
 search. I suppose I can keep on doing it this way and
 I was hoping there might be an easier way to do the
 sourcing and think you all have provide some answers
 concerning that aspect.
 
 Elizabeth
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template

2007-01-10 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I agree with Ron. The way you use the system is the
best for you, and the size of YOUR files is all that
matters. If you wish, you can go to the Legacy main
page, and read all the updates to versions 4,5, and 6.
You may find none of the NEW deluxe additions do
anything you need, or want. The best thing about
Legacy is its open-ended platform. 
Rich

--- ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Elizabeth,
 
 Using Legacy as you do I am less than sure that the
 Delux version will offer you very much.
 
 The point is that Legacy is a relationship database
 and the delux version offers many more ways of
 searching and presenting the various relationships,
 be it in time, location, family etc. Most of these
 would not work properly with your set-up.
 
 I think you have sacrificed a lot for the sake of
 convenience of viewing everything on one page but
 having said that, I respect your choice and would
 not wish to unduely influence you.
 
 Ron Ferguson
 
 

_
 
 For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
 *Use Legacy Search - see My Blogs*
 Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/Grimshaw/

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  Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 21:36:38 -0800
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  
  Thank you to all who have replied to my email.
  
  I guess having a lot of master sources isn't as
 big a
  problem as I thought since some of you have many
 in
  your legacy programs.
  
  But I'd like to know a little more about the
 deluxe
  version as mentioned in an email from Cathy
 (below).
  The cost of the deluxe version is prohibitive but
 may
  be possible in the future. Does it allow you to
 show
  ALL the information from census records, death
  certificates, etc etc etc in one place, at one
 time,
  so that there is no need to be clicking boxes,
 opening
  tabs etc?
  
  I realize that the way I am doing this in the free
  version is probably strange but it is sooo
  easy for me to be able to just open the Research
 tab
  and have everything right there in one place to
 look
  at while searching online. I can see at a glance
 which
  census records I have and all the data they
 include,
  plus all the other records and their data. I can
 see
  whether I have found a service record and what it
 said
  or a birth record at Ancestry/Genealogy/Etc and
 what
  was included in that record. This saves me so much
  time and repetition if I am looking for additional
  information about an ancestor or even someone
 listed
  in the census with them, or any other ancestor
  mentioned in any of their records, or locations
 where
  I might find them and so on. It's all right there
 in
  front of me.
  
  I definitely don't want to be printing out a lot
 of
  the information and have to sort through it or
 find a
  place to file it. I guess I'm wondering if the
 deluxe
  version has this ability. I don't want just the
  'Events' of a person's life to show, I also want
 all
  the data from all records right there to look at
 as I
  search. I suppose I can keep on doing it this way
 and
  I was hoping there might be an easier way to do
 the
  sourcing and think you all have provide some
 answers
  concerning that aspect.
  
  Elizabeth
 
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[LegacyUG] MRIN RIN Error

2007-01-10 Thread Nancy
Hi, I think System Mechanic cleaned out my computer a little too well. 
Everytime I add a new spouse to Legacy I get an MRIN error:

Error getting next deleted MRIN.
Error 3021: No current record.
Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?
choosing Yes just regenerates the same error
and if you choose No:
Error rebuilding Deleted Marriage list.
Error 3021: No current record.
Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?

I'm using Legacy Deluxe v6.0.0.118
 Windows XP Home Edition.

Thanks for your help.
Nancy




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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN RIN Error

2007-01-10 Thread Wendy Howard

Hi Nancy,

I've had this problem myself a couple of times now - not necessarily 
caused by your System Mechanic!


There's a solution on the Legacy web site at 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpJetServPk.asp  I got there by going 
to the Legacy web site (http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/), clicking on 
the Help Centre tab at the top of the page, then clicking on Solutions 
by Error Number in the links at the top of that page, then clicking on 
Error 3021 in the list given.


I knew to to this 'cos I'd asked and been pointed in the right direction 
here before.  :-)


Essentially, run the File  File Maintenance  Check/Repair, but read 
the details on the site first before you start so you know more about 
your particular situation.


Hope this helps!  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/

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*From:* Nancy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
*Sent:* 01/11/2007 10:29:32 AM +1300
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] MRIN  RIN Error


Hi, I think System Mechanic cleaned out my computer a little too 
well. Everytime I add a new spouse to Legacy I get an MRIN error:

Error getting next deleted MRIN.
Error 3021: No current record.
Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?
choosing Yes just regenerates the same error
and if you choose No:
Error rebuilding Deleted Marriage list.
Error 3021: No current record.
Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?

I'm using Legacy Deluxe v6.0.0.118
 Windows XP Home Edition.

Thanks for your help.
Nancy 



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RE: [LegacyUG] MRIN RIN Error

2007-01-10 Thread ronald ferguson

Hi Nancy,

I doubt if Register Mechanic caused the problem as it's only a cleaner and not 
an editor.

However, to answer your point see the Error by Number help file on the Legacy 
Website. Go to Help CenterSolutions by Error NumberError 3021. It's not an 
uncommon problem btw.

Ron Ferguson


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 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:29:32 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] MRIN  RIN Error
 
 Hi, I think System Mechanic cleaned out my computer a little too well. 
 Everytime I add a new spouse to Legacy I get an MRIN error:
 Error getting next deleted MRIN.
 Error 3021: No current record.
 Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?
 choosing Yes just regenerates the same error
 and if you choose No:
 Error rebuilding Deleted Marriage list.
 Error 3021: No current record.
 Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?
 
 I'm using Legacy Deluxe v6.0.0.118
  Windows XP Home Edition.
 
 Thanks for your help.
  Nancy

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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN RIN Error

2007-01-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Same here on sporadic occassions. For the life of me I can't remember 
now what I was doing at the time NOR what I did to *solve* the 
situation.

Doesn't have anything to do with SYSTEM MECHANIC though as I don't 
have that program!

gc

-- Wendy Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Nancy,

I've had this problem myself a couple of times now - not necessarily 
caused by your System Mechanic!

There's a solution on the Legacy web site at 
http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/helpJetServPk.asp  I got there by 
going 
to the Legacy web site (http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/), clicking on 
the Help Centre tab at the top of the page, then clicking 
on Solutions 
by Error Number in the links at the top of that page, then clicking 
on 
Error 3021 in the list given.

I knew to to this 'cos I'd asked and been pointed in the right 
direction 
here before.  :-)

Essentially, run the File  File Maintenance  Check/Repair, but read 
the details on the site first before you start so you know more about 
your particular situation.

Hope this helps!  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/

- Original Message -
*From:* Nancy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
*Sent:* 01/11/2007 10:29:32 AM +1300
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] MRIN  RIN Error


 Hi, I think System Mechanic cleaned out my computer a little too 
 well. Everytime I add a new spouse to Legacy I get an MRIN error:
 Error getting next deleted MRIN.
 Error 3021: No current record.
 Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?
 choosing Yes just regenerates the same error
 and if you choose No:
 Error rebuilding Deleted Marriage list.
 Error 3021: No current record.
 Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN?

 I'm using Legacy Deluxe v6.0.0.118
  Windows XP Home Edition.

 Thanks for your help.
 Nancy 


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[LegacyUG] Recording census records as a event,am I doing it right?

2007-01-10 Thread stuart churchill

Hi all,

been using Legacy for awhile and Im wondering wether im doing it right? Im 
recording census's as a event, creating a new event for each 
year/household,its quite time consuming.Wondering wether it would be quicker 
to use the clipboard and record the uk census elsehwhere, how do other 
people record census records?


Thanks
Stuart

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[LegacyUG] Relationship calculator wrong...v6.0.0.117

2007-01-10 Thread JRAYMOND651
Here is what I have.  Mary had two  children out-of-wedlock from two 
different men.  Child #1 is William and  Child #2 is Robert.  Robert had 
a son 
named Larry.

Setting  relationships with William as self, Legacy properly shows Robert 
as a  half-brother and Larry as a half-nephew.

Setting relationships with  Robert as self does not show William as a 
half-brother.

Setting  relationships with Larry (son of Robert) as self also creates a  
problem.  Mary is properly shown as grandmother, but William is not  
shown as half-uncle and the half-cousin relationships for William's children  
also do not show.

The good news is that I've identified the source of the  problem.  We know 
the father of Robert and that name is duly  recorded.  We do not know the 
father of William and I had left that name  blank.  If I add a dummy name as 
the 
father of William and reset  relationships with Robert as self, the 
problem disappears.  If I delete  the dummy name and reset relationships with 
Robert as self, the problem  reappears.

It seems that Legacy cannot find the proper relationships for  a child as 
self if one of the parents is unknown.  I've only tested this  with 
half-relationships, but I wouldn't be surprised if the problem also exists  for 
full 
relationships.

Can someone else duplicate this problem?   Can the programmers fix the 
problem?

Jon Raymond
St Paul Park,  MN
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RE: [LegacyUG] Recording census records as a event,am I doing it right?

2007-01-10 Thread Nancy Bender
I guess technically you could say that you are doing it right if it is the 
way you want it recorded. grin There are many ways to record things and 
everyone has his or her preference.
I record the censuses as events in the way described on the training video, 
which sounds similar to what you are doing, a different event for each year 
and household. I write it out once, listing everyone in the household and 
then use the event clipboard to copy and paste it to an event for everyone 
listed. I like the way it then shows in the chronology tab.
I am not sure where else you would record the UK censuses, I do those the 
same way, it shows where an individual was at a given time.

Nancy





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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Recording census records as a event,am I doing it right?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:36:44 +

Hi all,

been using Legacy for awhile and Im wondering wether im doing it right? Im 
recording census's as a event, creating a new event for each 
year/household,its quite time consuming.Wondering wether it would be quicker 
to use the clipboard and record the uk census elsehwhere, how do other 
people record census records?


Thanks
Stuart

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RE: [LegacyUG] Recording census records as a event,am I doing it right?

2007-01-10 Thread ronald ferguson

In my view, there is no wrong way Stuart.

I don't have the census as an event. My events are things like Residence, 
Occupation etc. (ie the details of the census).

The census is the source and I attach each to each of the events. I use the 
Source Clip Board as I always find it much the fastest way of doing things. 
There is nothing to stop you using it for the way you enter the details either.

Ron Ferguson 


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 Subject: [LegacyUG] Recording census records as a event,am I doing it right?
 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:36:44 +
 
 Hi all,
 
 been using Legacy for awhile and Im wondering wether im doing it right? Im 
 recording census's as a event, creating a new event for each 
 year/household,its quite time consuming.Wondering wether it would be quicker 
 to use the clipboard and record the uk census elsehwhere, how do other 
 people record census records?
 
 Thanks
 Stuart

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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template

2007-01-10 Thread Cathy

Hi Jean,
The Chronology view can include General and Research Notes - they're 
just not in chronological order.


Elizabeth is using the Standard edition that doesn't include the 
Chronology View.

Cathy

At 12:05 AM 11/01/2007, you wrote:


Elizabeth,
Maybe I'm missing something but I think what you are asking for is 
the Chronology tab at the top of your screen. When you click on that 
tab you see all the vital data  events for the person's life that 
you have entered in chronological order. It was created for just the 
purpose you are suggesting... ie to look at all the data you have on 
that person in one place. And that is why so many of us type in all 
the census data or ship record data, etc into the notes section of 
an event and then copy  paste the event (complete with source) to 
events for each person named.
It does NOT show any data put in the notes section though, so if 
that is where you put everything you will have to create a few 
events in order to see how this works.
But the copy feature of events, which as I said copies the source 
also, does not allow you to make the source detail particular for 
each person. But you don't need to do that once you are seeing 
everything in the chronology tab.

I don't think this is a deluxe feature, but not sure.
Jean




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Re: [LegacyUG] Recording census records as a event,am I doing it right?

2007-01-10 Thread Cathy

Hi Stuart,

Entering Census Events is time consuming but well worth it.
I enter a census event for everyone for each relevant census.
I put a full transcription in the source and in the Head of household's event.
I use the Event Clipboard to copy to other members of the household. 
That way the Source Detail is not changed at all and so only prints 
once in a report.


If you decide you don't want the Census Event in a particular report, 
you can make the Event Private in the Event Definition before running 
the report and don't include Private events.


Cheers,
Cathy

At 07:36 AM 11/01/2007, you wrote:


Hi all,

been using Legacy for awhile and Im wondering wether im doing it 
right? Im recording census's as a event, creating a new event for 
each year/household,its quite time consuming.Wondering wether it 
would be quicker to use the clipboard and record the uk census 
elsehwhere, how do other people record census records?


Thanks
Stuart




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator wrong...v6.0.0.117

2007-01-10 Thread Cathy

Hi Jon,
You've brought up a slightly different take on one of the known bugs 
in the Relationship Calculator that is logged in the bug tracker.


Why not submit your take as a Bug. Brian is pretty good at picking up 
issues, but they are definitely picked up when submitted as a Bug.

See the Legacy Home tab for the link.

A fix? Well it's been logged for a long time along with some other 
Relationship Calculator issues. We've had a lot of fixes but not these.


Cathy

At 08:08 AM 11/01/2007, you wrote:

snip
It seems that Legacy cannot find the proper relationships for  a child as
self if one of the parents is unknown.  I've only tested this  with
half-relationships, but I wouldn't be surprised if the problem also 
exists  for full

relationships.

Can someone else duplicate this problem?   Can the programmers fix the
problem?

Jon Raymond
St Paul Park,  MN
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Re: [LegacyUG] MRIN RIN Error

2007-01-10 Thread Nancy
I want to thank everyone who responded to my problem. I do believe it 
has been resolved. Thanks in particular for the link to the error 
message page, as I didn't even know it existed. I did a search of the 
user group messages and couldn't find anything which is why I posted to 
the group. The error message page will make life much easier.

Thanks again,
Nancy




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator wrong...v6.0.0.117

2007-01-10 Thread JRAYMOND651
Cathy,
Thank you for your suggestion.  I  will report this as a bug.

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[LegacyUG] Marriage events

2007-01-10 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
How common is it among this group to use Events on the Marriage screen
to record common activities of the marriage?  For instance, I've been
considering as a Marriage event our ownership of our pets.  This is only
one example that could lead to other joint ownership/participation
events.

I'm curious how common this already is, and what shortcomings or
advantages other might think of the concept.

Except for perhaps honeymoon or other such strictly Marriage related
activities, what other events do people record in this area?
Thanks
Gary
Near St Louis MO USA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Recording census records as a event,am I doing it right?

2007-01-10 Thread Judy
I like using Legacy because most times there isn't just one right way - 
it's what works for each of us.


I like to record each year's census records as a source for a particular 
name.  I have the specific location and actual date written on the census 
page to gauge birth/death/marriage dates.  Each person in the household is 
recorded with age and occupation, place of birth and place of birth of 
parents.  I can quickly see who might have died or married, and the 
locations to which the family members moved.  I usually list 
unknown/unrecognized additional people in the household under the detail 
for the head-of-house.  Frequently they are connected to the family in some 
way I just haven't discovered.  Only problem I've come up with putting such 
notes in the detail text source field is that  I haven't found a way to 
search for a specific person in the source text.


Using the clipboard makes it fairly simple, particularly when there is a 
large number of family members.  I only have to enter the individual text 
details.


Enjoy the program - it sure is the best one I've used since I switched from 
DOS to Windows!!


Judy



been using Legacy for awhile and Im wondering wether im doing it right? Im 
recording census's as a event, creating a new event for each 
year/household,its quite time consuming.Wondering wether it would be 
quicker to use the clipboard and record the uk census elsehwhere, how do 
other people record census records?






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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator wrong...v6.0.0.117

2007-01-10 Thread Ron Taylor

Jon,
I have sent a sample database to the programmers with the problems that you 
listed...except none of the parents is unknown.  Many have expressed concern 
about the relationship calculator and its results being wrong but Legacy 
support has it on their list of items to be fixed.  Hope it is soon.  It is 
not just the half-relationships but they certainly do seem prominent.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage events

2007-01-10 Thread Jan Roberts
I always use the Marriage Events for things that happened to the couple or
family.  I have changed the Marriage Event lead sentence to read - The
following events involved [couplenames] and / or their children:

The only problem it causes is if you use a child of the family as the
starting person for a subsequent report, because the marriage (and therefore
marriage events) of their parents isn't included in the report.  But as long
as you are aware of the problem you can always copy the event and add it if
you do start a report from a child and need the event.

Cheers,
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage events

How common is it among this group to use Events on the Marriage screen
to record common activities of the marriage?  For instance, I've been
considering as a Marriage event our ownership of our pets.  This is only
one example that could lead to other joint ownership/participation
events.

I'm curious how common this already is, and what shortcomings or
advantages other might think of the concept.

Except for perhaps honeymoon or other such strictly Marriage related
activities, what other events do people record in this area?
Thanks
Gary
Near St Louis MO USA




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RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage events

2007-01-10 Thread Nancy Bender
I have only recently started using the marriage events and I think including 
pets is a great idea. I'll have to add that one.
What I have used it for so far is our residences. Since we have moved 
several times during our marriage and to 4 different states, I wanted a 
record of it. I plan to attach pictures of each home, too. I have been 
thinking of also using the marriage events for trips we have taken.

Nancy

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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:11:18 -0600

How common is it among this group to use Events on the Marriage screen
to record common activities of the marriage?  For instance, I've been
considering as a Marriage event our ownership of our pets.  This is only
one example that could lead to other joint ownership/participation
events.

I'm curious how common this already is, and what shortcomings or
advantages other might think of the concept.

Except for perhaps honeymoon or other such strictly Marriage related
activities, what other events do people record in this area?
Thanks
Gary
Near St Louis MO USA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator wrong...v6.0.0.117

2007-01-10 Thread Sal Impellitteri
I am wondering if Legacy has the capacity to calculate everybody's relationship 
to each other.  I am only seeing that Legacy is able to calulate relationships 
back to a singular person.  I am hoping there is a way to click on two random 
people within a given database to retrieve the relationship between each other.

Any help?
Thanks.

Sal Impellitteri
Milwaukee, WI

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator wrong...v6.0.0.117


Here is what I have.  Mary had two  children out-of-wedlock from two 
different men.  Child #1 is William and  Child #2 is Robert.  Robert had 
a son 
named Larry.

Setting  relationships with William as self, Legacy properly shows Robert 
as a  half-brother and Larry as a half-nephew.

Setting relationships with  Robert as self does not show William as a 
half-brother.

Setting  relationships with Larry (son of Robert) as self also creates a  
problem.  Mary is properly shown as grandmother, but William is not  
shown as half-uncle and the half-cousin relationships for William's children  
also do not show.

The good news is that I've identified the source of the  problem.  We know 
the father of Robert and that name is duly  recorded.  We do not know the 
father of William and I had left that name  blank.  If I add a dummy name as 
the 
father of William and reset  relationships with Robert as self, the 
problem disappears.  If I delete  the dummy name and reset relationships with 
Robert as self, the problem  reappears.

It seems that Legacy cannot find the proper relationships for  a child as 
self if one of the parents is unknown.  I've only tested this  with 
half-relationships, but I wouldn't be surprised if the problem also exists  for 
full 
relationships.

Can someone else duplicate this problem?   Can the programmers fix the 
problem?

Jon Raymond
St Paul Park,  MN
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[LegacyUG] To-Do List Ideas?

2007-01-10 Thread Kirsten Bowman
I originally had a very goal-oriented To-Do List in Legacy (i.e. Find John
Jones' parents).  That helped to focus on top priorities but ultimately
didn't suit.  Then I switched to a task-oriented format (i.e. Order Mary
Cooper's probate record).  That was OK for a while.  Now I'm finding that
although I know I ordered and searched a particular book or film perhaps two
years ago to look for James Smith, I'm not sure whether I also searched for
his father-in-law Henry Adams and didn't find him--or if I didn't know of
the relationship at the time.

I would be very interested in knowing how others structure their To-Do
Lists/Research Logs to get the greatest benefit from the feature.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestor Color coding

2007-01-10 Thread R G Strong Genealogy

Nancy,
The step that corrected it was when you recalculated relationships. Whenever 
you add new people to your direct lineage after you have calculated 
relationships you need to redo this step. One way to tell that it hasn't 
been done is the colors and another way is the relationship that is listed 
above the person when you view them (ie first cousin, second cousin once 
removed, yadayadayad) will be blank or not showing. Whenever you notice this 
is not showing above someone that you know has a relationship to you, then 
that is when it is time to recalculate relationships.

Russ
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Ancestor Color coding


Thank you Ron and all for the suggestions. I had just done File 
Maintenance a few days ago, but did it again. Then I recalculated 
relationships and reset the ancestor colors. Now it is working correctly. 
Not sure which step corrected it, or if it was the combination, but I am 
glad that it is working again.

Thanks again,
Nancy


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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 22:17:13 +


Nancy,

If with your file you have done much merging it may be that you have some 
ghost marriages in your files so I would check the MRINs.


Otherwise you may have a corruption somewhere which FileFile 
MaintenanceCheck Repair may sort out.
After running this start with your self and recalculate all the 
relationship and then apply the colours.


Ron Ferguson


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 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 15:54:08 -0600
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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestor Color coding

 Nancy, did you recalculate relationships, too, starting with you? Not
 sure if that will help...
 Susan

 On 1/9/07, Nancy Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Thank you Robert,
 
  I had done all that, but just to be sure, I did it again. I went in 
  and

  chose my colors and UNCHECKED the box to dispay the colors. They all
went
  away. Then I went back and re-checked it. I still have the same issue.
After
  I sent my message last night, I discovered that the colors are not
showing
  up in some other lines, also but not always at the same level, some at
the
  3rd great-grandparents, some at the 4th while others display all the
way
  back. And I am only looking at direct line ancestors, not their
siblings,
  etc.
 
  Nancy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator wrong...v6.0.0.117

2007-01-10 Thread Richard Van Wasshnova
Why aren't you at v6.0.0.118? Wasn't this update primarily to fix the 1/2 
sibling relationship problem?


Richard

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Here is what I have.  Mary had two  children out-of-wedlock from two
different men.  Child #1 is William and  Child #2 is Robert.  Robert 
had a son

named Larry.

Setting  relationships with William as self, Legacy properly shows 
Robert

as a  half-brother and Larry as a half-nephew.

Setting relationships with  Robert as self does not show William as a
half-brother.

Setting  relationships with Larry (son of Robert) as self also creates 
a

problem.  Mary is properly shown as grandmother, but William is not
shown as half-uncle and the half-cousin relationships for William's 
children

also do not show.

The good news is that I've identified the source of the  problem.  We know
the father of Robert and that name is duly  recorded.  We do not know 
the
father of William and I had left that name  blank.  If I add a dummy 
name as the

father of William and reset  relationships with Robert as self, the
problem disappears.  If I delete  the dummy name and reset relationships 
with

Robert as self, the problem  reappears.

It seems that Legacy cannot find the proper relationships for  a child as
self if one of the parents is unknown.  I've only tested this  with
half-relationships, but I wouldn't be surprised if the problem also exists 
for full

relationships.

Can someone else duplicate this problem?   Can the programmers fix the
problem?

Jon Raymond
St Paul Park,  MN
Web site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~raymond/




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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculator wrong...v6.0.0.117

2007-01-10 Thread JRAYMOND651
V6.0.0.118  does **not** fix the problem I  am reporting, but thank you for 
the suggestion.

Jon Raymond
St Paul  Park, MN
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[LegacyUG] TreeDraw Legacy and dotted Adoption boxes?

2007-01-10 Thread Rob Miller
 
Hello! When I used to print a Descendent Chart in Family Tree Maker, I could
have adopted ancestors appear in a box made up of dotted lines instead of
solid lines (like the diagram below).

   |
-
|   John Doe |
-


I've tried to do it in TreeDraw-Legacy, but unsuccessfully. I can't find a
switch to have the program do it itself, so I've changed these boxes from
a solid lines to dotted lines myself. It looks perfect on the screen, but
when I print the chart all the boxes have solid lines again.

I'm wondering:

1. Is there a way to have TreeDraw do it automatically?
2. And if not, is there anyway to fool TreeDraw and my printer into printing
the dotted lines?

Thanks!

Rob

Toronto, Ontario




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RE: [LegacyUG] To-Do List Ideas?

2007-01-10 Thread Nancy Bender

Kirsten,
I have just recently started using the To-Do list more and what I have done 
so far, is in the results part, I indicate what and who I looked for. If I 
am looking for one person in particular but find information on another 
person, I either put it in the results of the To-Do item /or make a note in 
the second person's research notes.
In your example below, if you search a book for James Smith and Henry Adams, 
make notes in both their research notes, including negative results so that 
you know who you looked for and where.
I know this doesn't help for a source you looked at a few years ago, but 
might help going forward.

Nancy

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To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] To-Do List Ideas?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:20:20 -0800

I originally had a very goal-oriented To-Do List in Legacy (i.e. Find John
Jones' parents).  That helped to focus on top priorities but ultimately
didn't suit.  Then I switched to a task-oriented format (i.e. Order Mary
Cooper's probate record).  That was OK for a while.  Now I'm finding that
although I know I ordered and searched a particular book or film perhaps two
years ago to look for James Smith, I'm not sure whether I also searched for
his father-in-law Henry Adams and didn't find him--or if I didn't know of
the relationship at the time.

I would be very interested in knowing how others structure their To-Do
Lists/Research Logs to get the greatest benefit from the feature.

Kirsten




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RE: [LegacyUG] To-Do List Ideas?

2007-01-10 Thread Kate
Kirsten and Nancy

I have found that I get really useful information when I run the Research
Guide on each individual.  Not all of the suggestions are easy for me to
research or applicable but those items can be hidden from the list and other
items added.  Then you have all of your to-do's together and have a better
understanding of what you need for each person from each repository or
specific location, i.e. court house or cemetery.  Besides, there is no
charge for the information.

Kate Smith Redford
Salem, Oregon, USA
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy
Bender
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 8:59 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] To-Do List Ideas?

Kirsten,
I have just recently started using the To-Do list more and what I have done 
so far, is in the results part, I indicate what and who I looked for. If I 
am looking for one person in particular but find information on another 
person, I either put it in the results of the To-Do item /or make a note in

the second person's research notes.
In your example below, if you search a book for James Smith and Henry Adams,

make notes in both their research notes, including negative results so that 
you know who you looked for and where.
I know this doesn't help for a source you looked at a few years ago, but 
might help going forward.
Nancy

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From: Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] To-Do List Ideas?
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:20:20 -0800

I originally had a very goal-oriented To-Do List in Legacy (i.e. Find John
Jones' parents).  That helped to focus on top priorities but ultimately
didn't suit.  Then I switched to a task-oriented format (i.e. Order Mary
Cooper's probate record).  That was OK for a while.  Now I'm finding that
although I know I ordered and searched a particular book or film perhaps two
years ago to look for James Smith, I'm not sure whether I also searched for
his father-in-law Henry Adams and didn't find him--or if I didn't know of
the relationship at the time.

I would be very interested in knowing how others structure their To-Do
Lists/Research Logs to get the greatest benefit from the feature.

Kirsten




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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage events

2007-01-10 Thread Bruce Jones

So far I have used Marriage Events for Residents  Vacations

On 1/10/07, Nancy Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have only recently started using the marriage events and I think including
pets is a great idea. I'll have to add that one.
What I have used it for so far is our residences. Since we have moved
several times during our marriage and to 4 different states, I wanted a
record of it. I plan to attach pictures of each home, too. I have been
thinking of also using the marriage events for trips we have taken.
Nancy

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage events
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:11:18 -0600

How common is it among this group to use Events on the Marriage screen
to record common activities of the marriage?  For instance, I've been
considering as a Marriage event our ownership of our pets.  This is only
one example that could lead to other joint ownership/participation
events.

I'm curious how common this already is, and what shortcomings or
advantages other might think of the concept.

Except for perhaps honeymoon or other such strictly Marriage related
activities, what other events do people record in this area?
Thanks
Gary
Near St Louis MO USA




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