[LegacyUG] Templates
Hello all, I have seen templates mentioned quite a lot in these discussions. Can you make template screens in legacy or are you referring to a paper reference sheet that you create to ensure a 'standard' way in which you enter sources. If there is a way to create templates in Legacy could someone point me in the direction of how to do this, as I have looked in the manual and cannot seem to find any reference to templates. Thanks Paul Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
hwedhlor wrote: Perhaps the ISO standards need to be changed. :-) Perhaps. But the USA is just 1 against the vast majority! It's for ANSI to retire in favour of the ISO. Mike Fry wrote: hwedhlor wrote: A4 and 4 holes would not work for U.S. customers. They would if the USA became part of the international community and joined the rest of the world in adopting the ISO standards :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Templates
Hi Paul, People are mainly talking about paper reference sheets they have created to help standardise their source entry. However, we've been told that Source Templates are coming in Legacy 7. We're waiting to see how helpful they will be. Cathy At 02:28 PM 23/09/2007, you wrote: Hello all, I have seen templates mentioned quite a lot in these discussions. Can you make template screens in legacy or are you referring to a paper reference sheet that you create to ensure a 'standard' way in which you enter sources. If there is a way to create templates in Legacy could someone point me in the direction of how to do this, as I have looked in the manual and cannot seem to find any reference to templates. Thanks Paul Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get lumps for this)
You are on the right track, Tim. The full citation, for a splitter, is often placed in the publication details box of the Master Source. However, I often use the Source Detail for analysis or additional commentary, rather than putting it into the Master Source. For instance, a pension file might be applied as a source to a lot of different events and individuals; if you use it to document the birth year of one of the children, you might want to use the Comments tab on the Source Detail to explain your conclusions about the birth date, based on data in the file. Those conclusions regarding the birth of that one child wouldn't necessarily apply to other events, so you wouldn't want it in the Master Source, where it would attach to everything. (That may have been about as clear as mud.) Janis From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Willis Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:17 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get lumps for this) Hi Pat, Sorry for my vagueness.. I was just wondering that with the splitting method, it appears that you would always use a master source and never(?) use the source citation? Is that correct, if not, when do you use the citation? OR, do I have this all mixed up? Tim - Original Message From: Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 8:24:23 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get lumps for this) Tim, I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean when you ask, One thing I am currious about Pat, with your way, do you EVER have a need to use citations, or do you wind up using them for a different function? Pat _ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48252/*http:/mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearc h?refer=1ONXIC search that gives answers, not web links. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Templates
You might check the Archives, Paul there was some profitable discussion about this recently. I learned a lot, and have adopted the template method for certain repetitive sources (census, BLM, etc). It helps with consistency, when you don't have to reinvent the wheel every time. Basically, create an individual and name them Template, so that you have a fake person to attach your templates to. Then create a new master source, for instance Template BLM website. My template for that particular source looks like this (I am a splitter, so everything is in the Publication box): Bureau of Land Management, Land Patent Search, digital images, «i»General Land Office Records«/i» (http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch : accessed DATE), NAME (COUNTY, STATE), homestead patent no. NUMBER When recording a new BLM source, I would open that template (easy to find because all of the templates are nicknamed with that word at the beginning), and fill in the details, so that it looks like this: Bureau of Land Management, Land Patent Search, digital images, _General Land Office Records_ (http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch : accessed 7 Sept 2007), John J. Campbell (Texas County, Missouri), homestead patent no. 114587. Then, when you save the source, you get a pop-up window which asks you if you want to make changes to the original source (Template BLM) or save it as a new source. Choose the latter option, and name it according to your system (for me it would be Campbell, J.J. BLM or something similar. The option to save as a new source is what makes creating templates possible. If you search the archives, I believe someone was generous enough to share the templates that she had created. Janis From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:29 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Templates Hello all, I have seen templates mentioned quite a lot in these discussions. Can you make template screens in legacy or are you referring to a paper reference sheet that you create to ensure a 'standard' way in which you enter sources. If there is a way to create templates in Legacy could someone point me in the direction of how to do this, as I have looked in the manual and cannot seem to find any reference to templates. Thanks Paul Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Templates
Thanks for the replies, paper 'templates' are what I currently use, just thought I was missing out on a function that would make life easier!! Paul - Original Message - From: Cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Templates Hi Paul, People are mainly talking about paper reference sheets they have created to help standardise their source entry. Cathy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
Well, I guess Canada would make 2. but I suspect that that is why the Legacy Manual is in whatever format it is instead of setup to be put in a binder On 9/23/07, Mike Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hwedhlor wrote: Perhaps the ISO standards need to be changed. :-) Perhaps. But the USA is just 1 against the vast majority! It's for ANSI to retire in favour of the ISO. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
Well, I guess Canada would make 2. Unfortunately! ___ Wayne Martell Victoria, BC, Canada Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
Shall we drop the politics and get back to Legacy? - Original Message - From: Mike Fry To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual hwedhlor wrote: Perhaps the ISO standards need to be changed. :-) Perhaps. But the USA is just 1 against the vast majority! It's for ANSI to retire in favour of the ISO. Mike Fry wrote: hwedhlor wrote: A4 and 4 holes would not work for U.S. customers. They would if the USA became part of the international community and joined the rest of the world in adopting the ISO standards :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
I've never been on a mailing list, no matter what the topic, that had quite so many humorless, spoilsport policepersons. On 9/23/07, aseddon.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shall we drop the politics and get back to Legacy? - Original Message - *From:* Mike Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com *Sent:* Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:32 AM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual hwedhlor wrote: Perhaps the ISO standards need to be changed. :-) Perhaps. But the USA is just 1 against the vast majority! It's for ANSI to retire in favour of the ISO. Mike Fry wrote: hwedhlor wrote: A4 and 4 holes would not work for U.S. customers. They would if the USA became part of the international community and joined the rest of the world in adopting the ISO standards :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Thad Evotee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
At 10:32 23/09/2007, Mike Fry wrote: Perhaps. But the USA is just 1 against the vast majority! It's for ANSI to retire in favour of the ISO. Hi all, ANSI - does that not stand for American Nasties Spoil It? vbg [ On the basis, of course, that MIGHT is RIGHT ] Phil Phil Warn ô¿ô Genealogists do it backwards Family Historians take all steps The Warn family in Tetbury from 1722 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/philwarn/FamHist1/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
How many customers in North America and others using Letter and Legal VS A4 world? If and when Microsoft switches, so will we. (ie. no real choice for us, out of our hands.) Rich in LA CA --- Phil Warn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:32 23/09/2007, Mike Fry wrote: Perhaps. But the USA is just 1 against the vast majority! It's for ANSI to retire in favour of the ISO. Hi all, ANSI - does that not stand for American Nasties Spoil It? vbg [ On the basis, of course, that MIGHT is RIGHT ] Phil Phil Warn ô¿ô Genealogists do it backwards Family Historians take all steps The Warn family in Tetbury from 1722 http://homepage.ntlworld.com/philwarn/FamHist1/index.htm Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
Sorry that you feel this way but we are not humorless, spoilsport policepersons. While the Legacy folks are on the cruise, we are attempting to keep things in order on this list. There have been way too many discussions recently that have wandered off-topic and lasted far too long. Lots of wasted bandwidth! Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TH Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 3:14 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual I've never been on a mailing list, no matter what the topic, that had quite so many humorless, spoilsport policepersons. On 9/23/07, aseddon.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shall we drop the politics and get back to Legacy? - Original Message - From: Mike Fry mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual hwedhlor wrote: Perhaps the ISO standards need to be changed. :-) Perhaps. But the USA is just 1 against the vast majority! It's for ANSI to retire in favour of the ISO. Mike Fry wrote: hwedhlor wrote: A4 and 4 holes would not work for U.S. customers. They would if the USA became part of the international community and joined the rest of the world in adopting the ISO standards :-) -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Thad Evotee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
My apologies to the list for a) not trimming my earlier reply to this message (although I haven't seen it appear yet) and b) not changing this to text from HTML that the message to which I was replying was formatted. Here was my response - Thad - Sorry that you feel this way but we are not humorless, spoilsport policepersons. While the Legacy folks are on the cruise, we are attempting to keep things in order on this list. There have been way too many discussions recently that have wandered off-topic and lasted far too long. Lots of wasted bandwidth! Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TH Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 3:14 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual I've never been on a mailing list, no matter what the topic, that had quite so many humorless, spoilsport policepersons. On 9/23/07, aseddon.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shall we drop the politics and get back to Legacy? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
I wasn't aware that there was any mandate to choose one or the other. Mike Fry wrote: hwedhlor wrote: Perhaps the ISO standards need to be changed. :-) Perhaps. But the USA is just 1 against the vast majority! It's for ANSI to retire in favour of the ISO. Mike Fry wrote: hwedhlor wrote: A4 and 4 holes would not work for U.S. customers. They would if the USA became part of the international community and joined the rest of the world in adopting the ISO standards :-) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Confusion about where to put pictures
MARRIAGE: In Family View there is an option for Marriage Pictures. Then, in Report Options/Pictures, there is an option to include a picture of husband and wife, as well as event pictures. However, I understand from reading the LUG archives that in order for marriage pictures to actually show up, you have to create an event. So, what is the purpose of having the marriage pictures option, and in what type of report would they actually show up? CHILDREN: The option to include pictures of children is greyed out when I try to run anything other than a Family Group Record. I'd really like to see pictures of siblings in my reports. Is there ANY way to get them to appear in, for example, ancestor reports? Thanks to all, Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
aseddon.com wrote: Shall we drop the politics and get back to Legacy? Of course. People might have taken some notice of the smiley on the original message and not taken things so seriously. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Confusion about where to put pictures - another question!
Further to my last post, I understand from a response to a previous query that, in order to get graveyard photo to print, you have to enter it as an event. Now, in Family View, I enter for example, Buried: 16 Mar 1903 in Ottawa, Waukesha, Wisconsin - Ottawa Town Cemetery. And this information shows up in the report. The pictures inserted using the plus sign icon next to burial information does not actually print the picture, so I don't know what the purpose of this is. In order to get the burial picture, I create a Cemetery event. This time, I could use the Description for the name of the cemetery OR enter it the same way I did in Family View. Anyway, now a gravestone picture will print. However! - in my reports the burial information now shows up twice: once with the birth, christening, died and buried info, and again under Noted Events in His Life. How does everyone deal with this? Thanks again, Christine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christine Pearce Sent: 23 September 2007 11:02 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Confusion about where to put pictures MARRIAGE: In Family View there is an option for Marriage Pictures. Then, in Report Options/Pictures, there is an option to include a picture of husband and wife, as well as event pictures. However, I understand from reading the LUG archives that in order for marriage pictures to actually show up, you have to create an event. So, what is the purpose of having the marriage pictures option, and in what type of report would they actually show up? CHILDREN: The option to include pictures of children is greyed out when I try to run anything other than a Family Group Record. I'd really like to see pictures of siblings in my reports. Is there ANY way to get them to appear in, for example, ancestor reports? Thanks to all, Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Confusion about where to put pictures
Christine, I have never really bothered about marriage pictures but I think you are correct and they only appear in the Scrapbook. I understand that an enhancement request to include them in reports has been made more than once! With respect to children's pictures I wouldn't really expect them to appear in the Ancestors Report as aunties, uncles etc are not, strictly speaking, ancestors, even though their details are printed. However, children's pictures do appear in the Descendant Reports. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Confusion about where to put pictures Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:01:42 +0100 MARRIAGE: In Family View there is an option for Marriage Pictures. Then, in Report Options/Pictures, there is an option to include a picture of husband and wife, as well as event pictures. However, I understand from reading the LUG archives that in order for marriage pictures to actually show up, you have to create an event. So, what is the purpose of having the marriage pictures option, and in what type of report would they actually show up? CHILDREN: The option to include pictures of children is greyed out when I try to run anything other than a Family Group Record. I'd really like to see pictures of siblings in my reports. Is there ANY way to get them to appear in, for example, ancestor reports? Thanks to all, Christine _ The next generation of MSN Hotmail has arrived - Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events
I have a question about Marriage Events. I would like to know what the general consensus is regarding what kind of information to add as a Marriage Event. I found a newspaper article stating that my great-grandparents traveled out of town to visit relatives and friends in New York City and New Jersey. Would most of you enter this as a Marriage Event since it affected both of them as a couple? Or should I enter it as an Individual Event for each of them? In addition, when I print an Individual Report, I am unable to select events for marriage for inclusion on the report. Does anyone know why? Many thanks! Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Confusion about where to put pictures - another question!
Hi Christine, Like all software, Legacy is a work in progress - like most of our family histories as well. There is provision to store particular things but they are not all included in reports everywhere every user would like them. There are space considerations in a report, for example, if you included birth, baptism, death and burial pictures as well as the individual pic alongside the short paragraph giving the details of these events. The birth/burial pics do print on the Family Group Sheet. There are work arounds as you've discovered if you really want them to print in all reports. You get to choose what text goes alongside the picture. It's your choice if it's a straight repeat of what has already been said or something further about the burial/funeral/family visits to the grave/why they were buried in a certain place/who decided on the headstone and epitaph if any ... The same with wedding pictures. If you want group family pictures, you have to add them as an event (marriage). I don't see any problem with treating wedding pics in the same way. I get to decide how that space alongside the picture is used. If it were printing as part of the basic text you could end up with a line of pics and no text. I doubt that putting the pics alongside one another across the page instead of down would be any more pleasing. Re pictures of siblings: Depending on the report you choose, you can include an individual picture of everyone in the report. Again, if the sibling's pictures were included in an Ancestor Report, you'd end up with a lot of blank space as there isn't a lot of information given on each child. For me the information for 3 or 4 children would fit alongside the height of just one picture. Since they aren't ancestors, do they warrant that space in this report? I'm not saying that the pictures couldn't be handled better in reports, just that the decisions aren't as easy as simply let's include all picture types that can be stored. Regards, Cathy At 06:28 AM 24/09/2007, you wrote: Further to my last post, I understand from a response to a previous query that, in order to get graveyard photo to print, you have to enter it as an event. Now, in Family View, I enter for example, Buried: 16 Mar 1903 in Ottawa, Waukesha, Wisconsin - Ottawa Town Cemetery. And this information shows up in the report. The pictures inserted using the plus sign icon next to burial information does not actually print the picture, so I don't know what the purpose of this is. In order to get the burial picture, I create a Cemetery event. This time, I could use the Description for the name of the cemetery OR enter it the same way I did in Family View. Anyway, now a gravestone picture will print. However! - in my reports the burial information now shows up twice: once with the birth, christening, died and buried info, and again under Noted Events in His Life. How does everyone deal with this? Thanks again, Christine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christine Pearce Sent: 23 September 2007 11:02 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Confusion about where to put pictures MARRIAGE: In Family View there is an option for Marriage Pictures. Then, in Report Options/Pictures, there is an option to include a picture of husband and wife, as well as event pictures. However, I understand from reading the LUG archives that in order for marriage pictures to actually show up, you have to create an event. So, what is the purpose of having the marriage pictures option, and in what type of report would they actually show up? CHILDREN: The option to include pictures of children is greyed out when I try to run anything other than a Family Group Record. I'd really like to see pictures of siblings in my reports. Is there ANY way to get them to appear in, for example, ancestor reports? Thanks to all, Christine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
Mike, They simply have no sense of humor. :-) John Mike Fry wrote: aseddon.com wrote: Shall we drop the politics and get back to Legacy? Of course. People might have taken some notice of the smiley on the original message and not taken things so seriously. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events
Hi Mary, I would enter it as a Marriage Event - I enter Family events as marriage events. Why can't you include events for marriage in an INDIVIDUAL report? The report is about the INDIVIDUAL. ;-) However, you can include the Marriage events if you include the Chronology. The alternatives are to produce a Family Group Report or a one generation Descendant Report. Cheers, Cathy At 07:25 AM 24/09/2007, you wrote: I have a question about Marriage Events. I would like to know what the general consensus is regarding what kind of information to add as a Marriage Event. I found a newspaper article stating that my great-grandparents traveled out of town to visit relatives and friends in New York City and New Jersey. Would most of you enter this as a Marriage Event since it affected both of them as a couple? Or should I enter it as an Individual Event for each of them? In addition, when I print an Individual Report, I am unable to select events for marriage for inclusion on the report. Does anyone know why? Many thanks! Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events
I like to see it all on the same screen, not partitioned off. So I don't enter events anywhere except in the individual screen. To me, something that happens in the life of the couple should show up on the primary screen that I access. I don't want to overlook it in any circumstance of evaluation. I'm sure others do something entirely different - and for good reasons! Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M. Brenzel Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:26 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events I have a question about Marriage Events. I would like to know what the general consensus is regarding what kind of information to add as a Marriage Event. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual
I'm sure that we all have a sense of humor. But this has been an awful waste of everyone's time when it goes beyond the original topic and ends up very off-topic for way too long. We need to get back to Legacy... Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hwedhlor Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:35 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hard copy manual Mike, They simply have no sense of humor. :-) John Mike Fry wrote: aseddon.com wrote: Shall we drop the politics and get back to Legacy? Of course. People might have taken some notice of the smiley on the original message and not taken things so seriously. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same-Sex Partnerships
Hi all, PLEASE don't let us repeat the discussion of the morality or otherwise of same-sex partnerships that was so acrimonious in early September. DON'T take advantage of the fact that the Legacy Support team are away and can't unsubscribe people. Ken amongst the discussions you'll find in the archives under homosexual entries is this response from Sherry at Legacy Support. Sherry/Support Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:45:05 -0700 At this time, the way the database is structured, linking same-sex individuals isn't possible without extensive reprogramming time. Please go to http://www.moss-fritch.com/legacy.htm for a work around. This info was compiled by one of our users. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Cathy At 07:31 AM 24/09/2007, you wrote: Legacy has obviously been designed for opposite-sex partnerships. If one enter a husband, the sex of the wife is automatically shown as female. I know that one can change husband and wife to other terms, but I can't figure out how to change the sex of my partner from female to male. This becomes a problem when printing out documents, where Robert is shown as the daughter of Any suggestions, or am I stuck with this discimination? Thanks. Ken Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same-Sex Partnerships
Ken: This subject has been brought up a number of times and always seems to bring up a number of off-topic morality debates, which sometimes get hostile. That being said, a number of people have offered useful workarounds to deal with this issue - you might want to do a search of the archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Dave kenking wrote: Legacy has obviously been designed for opposite-sex partnerships. If one enter a husband, the sex of the wife is automatically shown as female. I know that one can change husband and wife to other terms, but I can't figure out how to change the sex of my partner from female to male. This becomes a problem when printing out documents, where Robert is shown as the daughter of Any suggestions, or am I stuck with this discimination? Thanks. Ken Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events
Hi Janis, I agree marriage/family events are important when evaluating. However, this is no reason to enter them as Individual events. You can see it all on the same screen in the Chronology View if you've chosen to include Marriage Events. Well as much as will fit on any screen. If you have lots of events entered you can't see them all at once on the Individual Screen which I suspect you mean by your primary screen and can't scroll to see the rest as you can in the Chronology View. No need for the double entry. Cathy At 07:47 AM 24/09/2007, you wrote: I like to see it all on the same screen, not partitioned off. So I don't enter events anywhere except in the individual screen. To me, something that happens in the life of the couple should show up on the primary screen that I access. I don't want to overlook it in any circumstance of evaluation. I'm sure others do something entirely different - and for good reasons! Janis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same-Sex Partnerships
Hi Ken! This is a very touchy subject here. It isn't possible at this time. But here is a link to the work around http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg13466.ht ml . If you have any questions feel free to contact me offline robm(at)yahoo.ca Cheers! Rob Miller Toronto, Ontario _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kenking Sent: September 23, 2007 7:32 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Same-Sex Partnerships Legacy has obviously been designed for opposite-sex partnerships. If one enter a husband, the sex of the wife is automatically shown as female. I know that one can change husband and wife to other terms, but I can't figure out how to change the sex of my partner from female to male. This becomes a problem when printing out documents, where Robert is shown as the daughter of Any suggestions, or am I stuck with this discimination? Thanks. Ken Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Same-Sex Partnerships
Sorry Ken, that should have been robm0761(at)yahoo.ca. Rob From: Rob Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 23, 2007 8:03 PM To: 'LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com' Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same-Sex Partnerships Hi Ken! This is a very touchy subject here. It isn't possible at this time. But here is a link to the work around http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/msg13466.ht ml . If you have any questions feel free to contact me offline robm(at)yahoo.ca Cheers! Rob Miller Toronto, Ontario From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kenking Sent: September 23, 2007 7:32 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Same-Sex Partnerships Legacy has obviously been designed for opposite-sex partnerships. If one enter a husband, the sex of the wife is automatically shown as female. I know that one can change husband and wife to other terms, but I can't figure out how to change the sex of my partner from female to male. This becomes a problem when printing out documents, where Robert is shown as the daughter of Any suggestions, or am I stuck with this discimination? Thanks. Ken Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events AND Individual Report
Events for marriage is an option on the Individual Report but it is grayed out. Because it appears as an option, I would think that it would be available but as I said, it's grayed out. Can anyone else select that option? I am using the Individual Report to go through each person and make sure that I have entered data and sources consistently. I'd like to look at each person individually and everything that pertains to them. For this purpose, I don't want to use the Family Group Sheet. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events Hi Mary, I would enter it as a Marriage Event - I enter Family events as marriage events. Why can't you include events for marriage in an INDIVIDUAL report? The report is about the INDIVIDUAL. ;-) However, you can include the Marriage events if you include the Chronology. The alternatives are to produce a Family Group Report or a one generation Descendant Report. Cheers, Cathy At 07:25 AM 24/09/2007, you wrote: I have a question about Marriage Events. I would like to know what the general consensus is regarding what kind of information to add as a Marriage Event. I found a newspaper article stating that my great-grandparents traveled out of town to visit relatives and friends in New York City and New Jersey. Would most of you enter this as a Marriage Event since it affected both of them as a couple? Or should I enter it as an Individual Event for each of them? In addition, when I print an Individual Report, I am unable to select events for marriage for inclusion on the report. Does anyone know why? Many thanks! Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same-Sex Partnerships
There are new people here all the time and topics of interest are bound to be repeated. To those of you who are offended, in a very narrow way, about certain things, why not just respond privately in a helpful way? Are you threatening to support the Legacy Support team in unsubscribing people who raise questions or make comments that make you uncomfortable? I must admit I've learned a lot about how Australian people think since subscribing to this mailing list. On 9/23/07, Cathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, PLEASE don't let us repeat the discussion of the morality or otherwise of same-sex partnerships that was so acrimonious in early September. DON'T take advantage of the fact that the Legacy Support team are away and can't unsubscribe people. Ken amongst the discussions you'll find in the archives under homosexual entries is this response from Sherry at Legacy Support. Sherry/Support Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:45:05 -0700 At this time, the way the database is structured, linking same-sex individuals isn't possible without extensive reprogramming time. Please go to http://www.moss-fritch.com/legacy.htm for a work around. This info was compiled by one of our users. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation Cathy At 07:31 AM 24/09/2007, you wrote: Legacy has obviously been designed for opposite-sex partnerships. If one enter a husband, the sex of the wife is automatically shown as female. I know that one can change husband and wife to other terms, but I can't figure out how to change the sex of my partner from female to male. This becomes a problem when printing out documents, where Robert is shown as the daughter of Any suggestions, or am I stuck with this discimination? Thanks. Ken Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Thad Evotee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events AND Individual Report
Mary, The Report Options screens are the same for most/every report. The options that are not available for a particular report are grayed out. As I said, use the Chronology Report or add the Chronology Report to the Individual report and include Marriage events that way. To check whether I've entered things consistently, I use the Descendant Book Report :-) Cathy At 08:19 AM 24/09/2007, you wrote: Events for marriage is an option on the Individual Report but it is grayed out. Because it appears as an option, I would think that it would be available but as I said, it's grayed out. Can anyone else select that option? I am using the Individual Report to go through each person and make sure that I have entered data and sources consistently. I'd like to look at each person individually and everything that pertains to them. For this purpose, I don't want to use the Family Group Sheet. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events Hi Mary, I would enter it as a Marriage Event - I enter Family events as marriage events. Why can't you include events for marriage in an INDIVIDUAL report? The report is about the INDIVIDUAL. ;-) However, you can include the Marriage events if you include the Chronology. The alternatives are to produce a Family Group Report or a one generation Descendant Report. Cheers, Cathy At 07:25 AM 24/09/2007, you wrote: I have a question about Marriage Events. I would like to know what the general consensus is regarding what kind of information to add as a Marriage Event. I found a newspaper article stating that my great-grandparents traveled out of town to visit relatives and friends in New York City and New Jersey. Would most of you enter this as a Marriage Event since it affected both of them as a couple? Or should I enter it as an Individual Event for each of them? In addition, when I print an Individual Report, I am unable to select events for marriage for inclusion on the report. Does anyone know why? Many thanks! Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events
I was thinking that this would be entered as a Marriage Event so that I wouldn't have to enter it twice, once for each individual so that is what I have done. But I'd still like to know how to see these events on the Individual Report. I was thinking that everything pertaining to spouses and children wouldn't appear since Spouse, Marriage and Children notes are all grayed out as well as Marriage date and place. But Marriage Status is not grayed. Marriage Notes print on the Individual Report as well as the Spouse's name and the Marriage Date and Place. Go figure! I hope that Legacy Support will still read through all of the messages sent while they've been gone and perhaps come up with a reason or solution. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:04 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events Hi Janis, I agree marriage/family events are important when evaluating. However, this is no reason to enter them as Individual events. You can see it all on the same screen in the Chronology View if you've chosen to include Marriage Events. Well as much as will fit on any screen. If you have lots of events entered you can't see them all at once on the Individual Screen which I suspect you mean by your primary screen and can't scroll to see the rest as you can in the Chronology View. No need for the double entry. Cathy At 07:47 AM 24/09/2007, you wrote: I like to see it all on the same screen, not partitioned off. So I don't enter events anywhere except in the individual screen. To me, something that happens in the life of the couple should show up on the primary screen that I access. I don't want to overlook it in any circumstance of evaluation. I'm sure others do something entirely different - and for good reasons! Janis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Enhancements for Support to see [WAS Question about Marriage Events]
On the Legacy Home tab is a link on the right hand side called Suggest a new feature. I would suggest anyone who has an enhancement request, or a request for a desired feature, submit it here rather than rely on Support reading through about a thousand emails or more generated over two weeks and gleaning that a LUGger desires a change. Support probably will read through the emails, but it would be a very easy way for a LUGger to guarantee that this request is seen. Be sure to add your email address to your suggestion so that Support can write to you personally if your enhancement already has been implemented or there is a workaround to your request that they may know about. Just trying to offer a helpful suggestion. Susan Daily On 9/23/07, M. Brenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope that Legacy Support will still read through all of the messages sent while they've been gone and perhaps come up with a reason or solution. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same-Sex Partnerships
Ken, This is not an issue of discrimination, so please don't think that way. As Sherry correctly notes, dealing with this issue involves very complex programming issues, which can be complicated even more if the couple adopts children or is married in Massachusetts or has a registered partnership in one of the states or cities that recognizes such partnerships. My solution, which is not perfect, is rather simple. I have a unique event called Partnership. I use an event date that usually correlates to the date the partnership was begun or whatever date the couple prefers. In the notes section, I enter the relevant data. I use this event for the person who is related to me and the partner is noted in the event notes. I also carefully explain to the couple the limitations of the software and why the data is recorded the way it is. Admittedly, this is imperfect, but it does record the data. As for the event notes, once you've generated the appropriate reports, you could then edit the report and move that partnership data to the section where marriage notes are normally included. It will take time, but I'm sure the developers of Legacy and other programs will address these issues. But it will be interesting to see if all the developers agree on a common protocol or if each developer goes its own way! Jon Raymond St Paul Park, MN http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~raymond/ ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events AND Individual Report
Thanks, Cathy! I'll look at including the Chronology Report with the Individual Report. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events AND Individual Report Mary, The Report Options screens are the same for most/every report. The options that are not available for a particular report are grayed out. As I said, use the Chronology Report or add the Chronology Report to the Individual report and include Marriage events that way. To check whether I've entered things consistently, I use the Descendant Book Report :-) Cathy At 08:19 AM 24/09/2007, you wrote: Events for marriage is an option on the Individual Report but it is grayed out. Because it appears as an option, I would think that it would be available but as I said, it's grayed out. Can anyone else select that option? I am using the Individual Report to go through each person and make sure that I have entered data and sources consistently. I'd like to look at each person individually and everything that pertains to them. For this purpose, I don't want to use the Family Group Sheet. Mary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:43 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about Marriage Events Hi Mary, I would enter it as a Marriage Event - I enter Family events as marriage events. Why can't you include events for marriage in an INDIVIDUAL report? The report is about the INDIVIDUAL. ;-) However, you can include the Marriage events if you include the Chronology. The alternatives are to produce a Family Group Report or a one generation Descendant Report. Cheers, Cathy At 07:25 AM 24/09/2007, you wrote: I have a question about Marriage Events. I would like to know what the general consensus is regarding what kind of information to add as a Marriage Event. I found a newspaper article stating that my great-grandparents traveled out of town to visit relatives and friends in New York City and New Jersey. Would most of you enter this as a Marriage Event since it affected both of them as a couple? Or should I enter it as an Individual Event for each of them? In addition, when I print an Individual Report, I am unable to select events for marriage for inclusion on the report. Does anyone know why? Many thanks! Mary Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Same-Sex Partnerships
- Original Message - From: TH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Same-Sex Partnerships There are new people here all the time and topics of interest are bound to be repeated. To those of you who are offended, in a very narrow way, about certain things, why not just respond privately in a helpful way? Are you threatening to support the Legacy Support team in unsubscribing people who raise questions or make comments that make you uncomfortable? I must admit I've learned a lot about how Australian people think since subscribing to this mailing list. Informing new members that certain topics tend to blow up, and suggesting where they might find the information needed in the archives IS responding in a helpful way. Gary Templeman Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get lumps for this)
I still don't understand. The first time you cite a master source, you have a citation. Then you might cite it a second time, a third time, etc. For example, let's take a Genforum website as a source of info. For Source List Name I have Snider Family GenForum #1207 For author I have S . . . , , A. . .[EMAIL PROTECTED] For title I have Schneiders/Sneider on the ship Allen, 17[29], Snider Family GenForum #1207 For publication data, I have #1207 23 Apr 2001 Genealogy.com presents GenForum http://genforum.genealogy.com © 2005 MyFamily.com, Inc. I might cite that specific source for info entered on several different people in my database. (And I might rate some of the info as a 2 for reliability and some as a 4 -- and none of it as a 1 since it's not a primary source.) If the post contains a reference to a primary source (or a secondary account for that matter) I may add in the detail : citing Botetourt County,VA, Will Book A, p295 or something of the sort.) Then if I have another post from the Snyder GenForum, I just pull up that source, make the necessary changes, save it (choose option 2) to a New Master Source (Legacy for reasons unknown to me calls it a copy). Does this make sense? -- Pat - Original Message - From: Tim Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get lumps for this) Hi Pat, Sorry for my vagueness.. I was just wondering that with the splitting method, it appears that you would always use a master source and never(?) use the source citation? Is that correct, if not, when do you use the citation? OR, do I have this all mixed up? Tim - Original Message From: Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 8:24:23 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get lumps for this) Tim, I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean when you ask, One thing I am currious about Pat, with your way, do you EVER have a need to use citations, or do you wind up using them for a different function? Pat Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Templates
Well you can create a template entry and put it in your master source list -- labeling it clearly -- and then when you need to enter a source of that type you select the template, make the necessary changes for your source and when you save it choose 2 to create the new source and leave the template intact. Does that make sense? Pat - Original Message - From: Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 2:28 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Templates Hello all, I have seen templates mentioned quite a lot in these discussions. Can you make template screens in legacy or are you referring to a paper reference sheet that you create to ensure a 'standard' way in which you enter sources. If there is a way to create templates in Legacy could someone point me in the direction of how to do this, as I have looked in the manual and cannot seem to find any reference to templates. Thanks Paul Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get lumps for this)
Hi Pat, Basically it sounds as if you are only using the Source Details sections of a source just for comments rather than for the true Source Detail. Taking your example: I'd make The Snider Family GenForum a Master Source and put the details of a particular posting in the Source Detail. or, to use a more common example as I'm not familiar with GenForums. A Census is a Master Source. (whether you make the Master Source the census for a particular country (English Census) or for a particular country for a particular year (1841 Census) or for a state (1860 Census for Michigan) or county - depending on how much of a splitter you are). Regardless of how you've lumped or split, I think a particular census household, belongs in the source detail. I put the reference in the Source Detail and a transcription of the household in the Source Detail text. To put the actual household in the Master Source is to completely ignore the structure of having Master Sources and Source Details. It can be done and it may suit you better but you need to be aware that you aren't using Legacy sourcing as designed. Adding to the confusion, Legacy isn't consistent on its use of terminology for the Source Details. Sometimes it uses Citation or Citation Details for the Source Details and sometimes Citation refers to one whole use of a Source - Master source plus the details. Cathy At 11:10 AM 24/09/2007, you wrote: I still don't understand. The first time you cite a master source, you have a citation. Then you might cite it a second time, a third time, etc. For example, let's take a Genforum website as a source of info. For Source List Name I have Snider Family GenForum #1207 For author I have S . . . , , A. . .[EMAIL PROTECTED] For title I have Schneiders/Sneider on the ship Allen, 17[29], Snider Family GenForum #1207 For publication data, I have #1207 23 Apr 2001 Genealogy.com presents GenForum http://genforum.genealogy.com © 2005 MyFamily.com, Inc. I might cite that specific source for info entered on several different people in my database. (And I might rate some of the info as a 2 for reliability and some as a 4 -- and none of it as a 1 since it's not a primary source.) If the post contains a reference to a primary source (or a secondary account for that matter) I may add in the detail : citing Botetourt County,VA, Will Book A, p295 or something of the sort.) Then if I have another post from the Snyder GenForum, I just pull up that source, make the necessary changes, save it (choose option 2) to a New Master Source (Legacy for reasons unknown to me calls it a copy). Does this make sense? -- Pat - Original Message - From: Tim Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get lumps for this) Hi Pat, Sorry for my vagueness.. I was just wondering that with the splitting method, it appears that you would always use a master source and never(?) use the source citation? Is that correct, if not, when do you use the citation? OR, do I have this all mixed up? Tim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Crashing!
For clarification, I ran a backup of my stuff. I am not sure what is happening, but there are a few questions I have. What size is your data file? Number of individuals? How big is your hard drive? Have you run File Maintenance recently? Do you have enough space to run a second version of backup. Try that. Have you ever (knowingly) deleted any program files? I did once, so I remember. Sounds like there is a corrupt file in Legacy. I had a problem about six years ago, and what I did was Uninstall Legacy.(Not delete!) Then downlowded a clean install. The data file was untouched by this. First, I would run File Maintenance. Second, I would backup a second file. If this works, we only have to analyze why it worked. (I suspect it won't work, but we need to try anyway. Rich in LA CA --- Kirstin Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard, I have been replacing the same file on the same drive. When I back up, I click on the old back up file click YES to replace. That's when it crashes. -- Kirstin [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote: What do you mean by 'I click on an old backup try to replace it.' Do you mean restore? I use the same file name always. I backup to different drives, so the variety works. Rich in LA CA --- Kirstin Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever since the last update (a long time ago), Legacy crashes when I attempt to back up the database. I click on an old backup try to replace it. That's when Legacy crashes. It's not every time. the Error message says Error reading individual. Error 91: Object variable or With block variable not set. Would you like to try it again? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get lumps for this)
Do not put the details of the event in the Master Source. Keep the Master Source lean and simple. A Police Officer uses the Vehicle Code as a reason to stop a speeder, then he writes a CITATION using the Vehicle code ( example: CVC22350, speed exceeding 55 MPH), as the Master Source. He/She then includes the details such as Your Speed, Location, Time and Conditions on the CITATION. The Master Source remains simple and lean ( CVC22350) and will be used on many other citations with different details, but the citation for excessive speed will always cite the same Master Source. Try this website, it was a help to me. www.progenealogists.com/commoncitations.htm Keep plugging away at this Source stuff and it will become crystal clear, soon. Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 8:41 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get lumps for this) Hi Pat, Basically it sounds as if you are only using the Source Details sections of a source just for comments rather than for the true Source Detail. Taking your example: I'd make The Snider Family GenForum a Master Source and put the details of a particular posting in the Source Detail. or, to use a more common example as I'm not familiar with GenForums. A Census is a Master Source. (whether you make the Master Source the census for a particular country (English Census) or for a particular country for a particular year (1841 Census) or for a state (1860 Census for Michigan) or county - depending on how much of a splitter you are). Regardless of how you've lumped or split, I think a particular census household, belongs in the source detail. I put the reference in the Source Detail and a transcription of the household in the Source Detail text. To put the actual household in the Master Source is to completely ignore the structure of having Master Sources and Source Details. It can be done and it may suit you better but you need to be aware that you aren't using Legacy sourcing as designed. Adding to the confusion, Legacy isn't consistent on its use of terminology for the Source Details. Sometimes it uses Citation or Citation Details for the Source Details and sometimes Citation refers to one whole use of a Source - Master source plus the details. Cathy At 11:10 AM 24/09/2007, you wrote: I still don't understand. The first time you cite a master source, you have a citation. Then you might cite it a second time, a third time, etc. For example, let's take a Genforum website as a source of info. For Source List Name I have Snider Family GenForum #1207 For author I have S . . . , , A. . .[EMAIL PROTECTED] For title I have Schneiders/Sneider on the ship Allen, 17[29], Snider Family GenForum #1207 For publication data, I have #1207 23 Apr 2001 Genealogy.com presents GenForum http://genforum.genealogy.com C 2005 MyFamily.com, Inc. I might cite that specific source for info entered on several different people in my database. (And I might rate some of the info as a 2 for reliability and some as a 4 -- and none of it as a 1 since it's not a primary source.) If the post contains a reference to a primary source (or a secondary account for that matter) I may add in the detail : citing Botetourt County,VA, Will Book A, p295 or something of the sort.) Then if I have another post from the Snyder GenForum, I just pull up that source, make the necessary changes, save it (choose option 2) to a New Master Source (Legacy for reasons unknown to me calls it a copy). Does this make sense? -- Pat - Original Message - From: Tim Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 7:16 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] An argument for splitting? (knowing I may get lumps for this) Hi Pat, Sorry for my vagueness.. I was just wondering that with the splitting method, it appears that you would always use a master source and never(?) use the source citation? Is that correct, if not, when do you use the citation? OR, do I have this all mixed up? Tim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
