Re: [LegacyUG] Family Search

[Deborah Trounstine]

That worked great, Paul. Thanks so  much for posting this!

 If you already have a “regular” Family Search account, go to the link
 below. About halfway down, there is a link ‘click here to open the
 registration page.

 That brings you to a registration page. Do not type in all your
 information to create a new account. Click on Sign In at the upper
 right, enter your existing family search id and password, and follow
 the instructions. If you are accepted (there are non LDS spots
 available) you will get an e-mail link and some instructions. This
 effectively upgrades your regular familysearch account to a new.family
 search account .

 I and several others have used this in the last few weeks and obtained
 access to new.familysearch.

 https://help.familysearch.org/publishing/859/112926_f.SAL_Public.html

 Paul

 *From:*sarlesinsi...@gmail.com [mailto:sarlesinsi...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* March-22-12 3:27 PM
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 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Family Search

 I did search the archives and found how to get Family Search accessed
 by a button on the menu bar. However, when I tried to access
 new.familysearch and register I got a message saying it was not
 available right now. Is it just me or is there something else wrong?

 Jane Sarles

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[LegacyUG] Sources question

[Darren Walker]

Hello, I have recently purchase Legacy and I've watched the beginners video.
My question relates to entering a birth certificate. It's one document but
contains a lot of information for the child, mother and father etc. I have
entered this once as a master source. Then do I cite a master source each
time I refer to it? I will refer to it many times but to enter the
certificate no, year, person details each time is a lot of typing. Is this
how everyone else does it?



Thank you,

Darren.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources question

[Shirley Richardson]

Good luck Darren, I remember when I first started and wish I knew about this 
users group then. I won't reply as I will leave it to the more experienced 
users and I have a lot to learn myself.

Happy hunting.

Shirley
NZ
  - Original Message -
  From: Darren Walker
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 9:29 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources question


  Hello, I have recently purchase Legacy and I’ve watched the beginners video. 
My question relates to entering a birth certificate. It’s one document but 
contains a lot of information for the child, mother and father etc. I have 
entered this once as a master source. Then do I cite a master source each time 
I refer to it? I will refer to it many times but to enter the certificate no, 
year, person details each time is a lot of typing. Is this how everyone else 
does it?



  Thank you,

  Darren.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources question

[Bert van Kootwijk]

Use the source clipboard. Look in the help for details.

Bert


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From: Darren Walker dar...@darrenw.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday 23 March 2012 9:29
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources question


Hello, I have recently purchase Legacy and I've watched the beginners video.
My question relates to entering a birth certificate. It's one document but
contains a lot of information for the child, mother and father etc. I have
entered this once as a master source. Then do I cite a master source each
time I refer to it? I will refer to it many times but to enter the
certificate no, year, person details each time is a lot of typing. Is this
how everyone else does it?



Thank you,

Darren.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources question

[Ron Ferguson]

Darren,

You do not say which country you are from, and as I am only really familiar 
with the English birth certificates I will answer in relation to them. However, 
my practice would give the answer of “yes” to your question.

The English BCs give the name, date of birth, place of birth, name of father 
(if registered), name and maiden name of mother, and thus is a source for all 
of these. I attach the Source to each of these as you suggest, you may also 
wish to use it to register the status of the parents, although, personally I do 
not.

This is not as onerous as it looks if one uses the Source or Event Clipboard – 
if you are not familiar with these may I suggest that you read them up in the 
Help Files. There is one change which I make to the Source Detail depending on 
where the source is being used. When being used for the child, I would simply 
have something like ‘Birth Certificate’ in it, whereas if it was being used for 
a parent I would change that to ‘Son’s/Daughter’s (+ name) Birth Certificate’.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

From: Darren Walker
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 8:29 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources question

Hello, I have recently purchase Legacy and I’ve watched the beginners video. My 
question relates to entering a birth certificate. It’s one document but 
contains a lot of information for the child, mother and father etc. I have 
entered this once as a master source. Then do I cite a master source each time 
I refer to it? I will refer to it many times but to enter the certificate no, 
year, person details each time is a lot of typing. Is this how everyone else 
does it?



Thank you,

Darren.



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RE: Re: [LegacyUG] Pesky location list

[Michele Lewis]

I have never used Washington DC as a location so I looked to see howit would 
geocode.





Fairfax Village, District of Columbia, District of Columbia, United States







Michele





From: David C Abernathy [mailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: Re: [LegacyUG] Pesky location list



We also have a place here in the US that is a City only, NO County, NO State, 
Washington, District of Columbia, so now where are the extra coma going to be, 
as there should be NONE?



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From: sarlesinsi...@gmail.com [mailto:sarlesinsi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Pesky location list



I suspected something like that. So, the total is 4 places and if you have the 
state and the country, you need two commas, with 1 space between.

Thanks.

Jane

On , Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
 Jane,



 The Expand/Contract locations insists that the format be four levels

 city, county, state, country

 If any part is missing that part must be replaced with a comma

 Your examples below are correct but you should also use

 city, , state, country if the county is missing and

 city, , , country if the county and state are missing.



 The country can be missing without a replacement comma and, if the

 location is in the United states Legacy will recognize the state name

 and know that the place is in the USA.



 In your earlier email the problem places were not in the correct format

 Guilford Co., NC was missing the comma for the missing city

 , , , Alabama has too many commas before the state name

 , , Fluvanna County, Virginia, also has too many commas before the

 county there should only be one.



 Brian

 Customer Support

 Millennia Corporation

 br...@legacyfamilytree.com

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 We are changing the world of genealogy!

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 Thanks.



 On 22/03/2012 3:03 PM, sarlesinsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is this the recommended format for locations? I have tried and failed to

  find exactly the correct way to input locations when various parts are

  known.

 

  , , Virginia, United States

  , Albemarle County, Virginia, United States

  Anytown, Albemarle County, Virginia, United States

 

  I am working toward getting the automatic fill-in thing to work in my

  Legacy program. It does not now work.

 

  Jane Sarles







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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

[Michele Lewis]

I don’t do anything in all caps either.  When I am writing a formal report, I 
do follow the modified register system which puts the surname in all small caps 
(2 points smaller than the rest of the text) the first timeadirectline ancestor 
is  introduced.



michele



From: David C Abernathy [mailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File



In my opinion there should be NOTHING in all caps. Some surnames have embedded 
caps and some do not, but they are spelt the same way, except for the caps.

As for states and countries, no way either. We do not need to be shouting in 
our data.



Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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From: Jerry Peterson [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File



Of course, I met put the name of the COUNTRY and SURNAMES in ALL CAPS - I did 
not say that quite right.   Thanks.   --Jerry

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Jerry Peterson jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi Sherry or to whom it may concern:



I opened up the sample file that Legacy always ships with the downloads and 
noticed that it has not yet been changed to the new standard United States.   
It still has USA.   Just bringing this to your attention if the programmers 
want to make sure it is set to the new standard in the sample file that many 
new users might look at.



On a side note, I always capitalize the name of the COUNTRY because I want it 
to stand out the same way that many of us choose to have Legacy capitalize all 
the SURNAMES.   As far as I know, this won't cause any problems with gedcoms, 
except I'm not positive if some of the programs might try to change it back to 
just initial capitals.  Does anyone know?  Thanks,



Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org




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Re: [LegacyUG] Pesky location list

[Jackie King]

Until the organic act, the District was made up of two counties and
three towns Washington and Alexandria counties, and the communities
of Washington, Georgetown and Alexandria so until the mid 1870s it plots
out just as it would for any other location with the District in the
state slot.

Of course Alexandria and the Virginia portion of the District were
ceded back to Virginia - and at some point (I forget exactly when)
Georgetown was merged into Washington. Washington county was dropped and
the District became its own county. And that is when things don't look
as if they fit into the norm.

I have quite a few D.C. families from its founding and settlement in the
1790s to the early 1900s. They are an interesting lot to find because
many of their records never ended up within the District in the first
place. Many preferred to file many of their formal papers in the
adjoining Maryland or Virginia counties which presents its own problems
when trying to indicate that while a will was filed in Montgomery county
for an example, they were actually D.C. residents.

Now what about the U.S. territories?  How do those read?  I actually
have a couple of those to deal with.

Jackie


On 3/23/2012 6:33 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:

 I have never used Washington DC as a location so I looked to see howit
 would geocode.

 Fairfax Village, District of Columbia, District of Columbia, United States

 Michele

 *From:*David C Abernathy [mailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:02 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* RE: Re: [LegacyUG] Pesky location list

 We also have a place here in the US that is a City only, NO County, NO
 State, Washington, District of Columbia, so now where are the extra
 coma going to be, as there should be NONE?

 Thanks,
 David C Abernathy
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 *From:*sarlesinsi...@gmail.com mailto:sarlesinsi...@gmail.com
 [mailto:sarlesinsi...@gmail.com]
 mailto:[mailto:sarlesinsi...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:31 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Pesky location list

 I suspected something like that. So, the total is 4 places and if you
 have the state and the country, you need two commas, with 1 space between.

 Thanks.

 Jane

 On , Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
  Jane,
 
 
 
  The Expand/Contract locations insists that the format be four levels
 
  city, county, state, country
 
  If any part is missing that part must be replaced with a comma
 
  Your examples below are correct but you should also use
 
  city, , state, country if the county is missing and
 
  city, , , country if the county and state are missing.
 
 
 
  The country can be missing without a replacement comma and, if the
 
  location is in the United states Legacy will recognize the state name
 
  and know that the place is in the USA.
 
 
 
  In your earlier email the problem places were not in the correct format
 
  Guilford Co., NC was missing the comma for the missing city
 
  , , , Alabama has too many commas before the state name
 
  , , Fluvanna County, Virginia, also has too many commas before the
 
  county there should only be one.
 
 
 
  Brian
 
  Customer Support
 
  Millennia Corporation
 
  br...@legacyfamilytree.com mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 
  http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
 
 
 
  We are changing the world of genealogy!
 
  When replying to this message, please include all previous
 correspondence.
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
  On 22/03/2012 3:03 PM, sarlesinsi...@gmail.com
 mailto:sarlesinsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Is this the recommended format for locations? I have tried and
 failed to
 
   find exactly the correct way to input locations when various parts are
 
   known.
 
  
 
   , , Virginia, United States
 
   , Albemarle County, Virginia, United States
 
   Anytown, Albemarle County, Virginia, United States
 
  
 
   I am working toward getting the automatic fill-in thing to work in my
 
   Legacy program. It does not now work.
 
  
 
   Jane Sarles
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?

[Mary Thomason Morris]

I put the various date sources in my events list and source it there.  That way 
all the dates show on the timeline until I get a concrete date, then I put the 
correct date on the date line (I use the best of the vague dates until then on 
the date line) and put all the other various date references in the date notes 
to give me an idea how many places had the wrong date that can be corrected.  
Hope this helps.  Mary Morris




 From: Terri Brown ridge...@yahoo.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?

I have the same philosphy as Jenny - it depends.

I may use some census information supported by a child's birth record to 
determine an approximate birth date and place. Then I may eventually find an 
index entry for that peron's birth record, so I'll add that to the sources. 
Once I obtain a copy of the actual birth record, I will delete all the other 
(secondary and lesser) sources in favor of the primary source of birth record. 
I may keep the index as a source but usually add the index information to the 
citation comments. If no birth record is available, I choose the best of the 
secondary sources.

I try not to have an overwhelming number of sources for any one fact/event. I 
feel that no more than 4 or 5 secondary or lesser sources are needed for most 
situations. More than that is TMI for most people (including me!). I use Clooz 
to keep track of all of the records I find on each individual. So, if someone 
wants to know the steps I took to find the birth record, it's easy enough to 
show them. Plus I'm making better use of Notes, General Notes and Research 
Notes.

Residence tends to be an exeception to the 4 or 5 sources guidline when someone 
lived in a particlur place for a long period of time. I will lump all of the 
city directories under one source citation, though. There is no sense in having 
20 city directory entries for one residence.

Terri



From: julia m aga...@hotmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:28 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?



I was just wondering how other people handle this? For example:

You find someone's birthdate (or year) from a census, so you attach the census 
as the source. Later you read a few more things (obit, gravestone, etc) so you 
add those as sources to that piece of data. Then you finally receive a birth 
certificate that has the birthdate and you add that as a source.

Do you drop off some of these other sources and let, in this instance, the 
birth certificate be the only source for that piece of data? How do I know when 
enough is enough--or is it never enough and I should keep adding sources as I 
find them?!?

Thanks,
Julia     



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Re: [LegacyUG] Webinar glitch

[Jenny M Benson]

Geoff Rasmussen wrote:
 I messed up this morning and removed the wrong recording. It's all back to
 normal now. Sorry 'bout that.


You're forgiven, Geoff!

When I was an IT tutor and did something in error I used to tell my
students that I occasionally made a deliberate mistake because I didn't
want them to be over-awed by my perfection!!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources question

[Jenny M Benson]

Ron Ferguson wrote:


 This is not as onerous as it looks if one uses the Source or Event
 Clipboard

It came as rather an unpleasant shock to me to find recently, when I was
temporarily unable to access deluxe Legacy, that the Source Clipboard is
not available in basic (free) Legacy.  Well worth paying for deluxe Legacy
just for that one feature along, IMHO.

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Re: [LegacyUG] For those that use the to-do list, what is the best way to do this?

[Jenny M Benson]

Michele Lewis wrote:
 I use the to-do list a lot.  I need to way to distinguish between things I
 need to do and things I have done and I am just waiting for the results.
 For example, I might have a to-do saying that I need to get a marriage
 license for someone but I haven't actually mailed off a request yet.  I
 also
 have some to-dos where I have already mailed off for the marriage license
 and I am waiting for the courthouse to respond.  I need a way to
 differentiate between these two situations.  something I need to do but
 haven't yet, vs. something I have done and I am only waiting for the
 results.  I want to be able to filter so that I can have a list of things
 I
 still need to do.  What the best way to do this?



If you don't mind losing one of the available settings, how about using
Low Priority to indicate To-Dos that are in progress and reserve Medium
Priority and High Priority for To-Dos which really are To Do?

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Families for Android 1.5.0.

[mbstx]

Is this an upgrade that I can now download, or a whole new purchase?-Original Message-
From: Malcolm Green 
Sent: Mar 23, 2012 5:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Families for Android 1.5.0.






Families 1.5.0 for Android is now available. This version contains the following changes:- Improve efficiency of relationship calculation- redesign search options and add search by location- support tags for individual and marriage- add settings option for maximum descendant generations- allow selection of alternative parents in Pedigree View- bug fixesThe new version is available in Android Market, SlideME and will be available in the Amazon Appstore within a day or two.NEW!! Families is now also available in the NOOK Store.Malcolm Green
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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

[Jan Roberts]

As I am producing reports for myself and other rellies (who couldn’t care less 
about, nor even know about the existence of, “standards”) I always capitalise 
surnames – when I enter  data and when I type any sentence.  This carries over 
to letters / emails I write in the course of my research.  My reason?  I have 
numerous families who use past surnames as Christian names and I like to make 
it clear that a particular name is a surname.  If I just typed John Loring 
anywhere it could mean any one of possibly 100 men whose first two Christian 
names are John Loring, with a variety of surnames, or John, whose surname is 
Loring.  Besides, I do it as a matter of habit  - as a teacher in a previous 
life I always wrote name lists in the form of Mary BROWN, or sometimes BROWN, 
Mary.

Cheers
Jan

From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 22:35
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

I don’t do anything in all caps either.  When I am writing a formal report, I 
do follow the modified register system which puts the surname in all small caps 
(2 points smaller than the rest of the text) the first timeadirectline ancestor 
is  introduced.

michele

From: David C Abernathy [mailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

In my opinion there should be NOTHING in all caps. Some surnames have embedded 
caps and some do not, but they are spelt the same way, except for the caps.
As for states and countries, no way either. We do not need to be shouting in 
our data.

Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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From: Jerry Peterson [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

Of course, I met put the name of the COUNTRY and SURNAMES in ALL CAPS - I did 
not say that quite right.   Thanks.   --Jerry
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Jerry Peterson jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com 
wrote:
Hi Sherry or to whom it may concern:

I opened up the sample file that Legacy always ships with the downloads and 
noticed that it has not yet been changed to the new standard United States.   
It still has USA.   Just bringing this to your attention if the programmers 
want to make sure it is set to the new standard in the sample file that many 
new users might look at.

On a side note, I always capitalize the name of the COUNTRY because I want it 
to stand out the same way that many of us choose to have Legacy capitalize all 
the SURNAMES.   As far as I know, this won't cause any problems with gedcoms, 
except I'm not positive if some of the programs might try to change it back to 
just initial capitals.  Does anyone know?  Thanks,

Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org






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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

[Sherry/Support]

When you enter the surname in the Surname field, the program knows
very well that it's a surname.  They should all be entered in standard
Initial Caps.

I'm surprised you're not getting flags for Potential Problems when you
enter a surname in all uppercase - unless you have that option turned
off.

You can go to Options  Customize  Data Format and set surnames to
show in UPPERCASE.

When you create reports, click on the Report Options button then the
Format tab and select Uppercase SURNAMES to show them that way in
reports.

In web pages, the option is on the Formatting tab.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:06 AM, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
 As I am producing reports for myself and other rellies (who couldn’t care 
 less about, nor even know about the existence of, “standards”) I always 
 capitalise surnames – when I enter  data and when I type any sentence.  This 
 carries over to letters / emails I write in the course of my research.  My 
 reason?  I have numerous families who use past surnames as Christian names 
 and I like to make it clear that a particular name is a surname.  If I just 
 typed John Loring anywhere it could mean any one of possibly 100 men whose 
 first two Christian names are John Loring, with a variety of surnames, or 
 John, whose surname is Loring.  Besides, I do it as a matter of habit  - as a 
 teacher in a previous life I always wrote name lists in the form of Mary 
 BROWN, or sometimes BROWN, Mary.

 Cheers
 Jan



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RE: [LegacyUG] For those that use the to-do list, what is the best way to do this?

[Michele Lewis]

I had thought of that but I do those setting now for direct line projects (high 
priority) and collateral line projects (low priority).  I guess I could just 
change my thinking on that.  There is also an option to tag to-dos and I could 
use that but I need to know other reasons why one might want to tag to-dos.

Michele


-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 9:34 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] For those that use the to-do list, what is the best way 
to do this?


Michele Lewis wrote:
 I use the to-do list a lot.  I need to way to distinguish between
 things I need to do and things I have done and I am just waiting for the 
 results.
 For example, I might have a to-do saying that I need to get a marriage
 license for someone but I haven't actually mailed off a request yet.
 I also have some to-dos where I have already mailed off for the
 marriage license and I am waiting for the courthouse to respond.  I
 need a way to differentiate between these two situations.  something I
 need to do but haven't yet, vs. something I have done and I am only
 waiting for the results.  I want to be able to filter so that I can
 have a list of things I still need to do.  What the best way to do
 this?



If you don't mind losing one of the available settings, how about using Low 
Priority to indicate To-Dos that are in progress and reserve Medium Priority 
and High Priority for To-Dos which really are To Do?

--
Jenny M Benson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

[Kathy Meyer]

There have been a bunch of replies but nothing to answer the question. Wish
I knew how to answer you because I think I actually understand what you
need.  Maybe you could call someone or redirect your email straight to
Geoff?  I was actually interested in the answer.  Good luck! Kathy
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:56 PM, jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote:

 I made no request that Legacy change anything regarding the use of all
 CAPS in anything.  They already have the option to display surnames in all
 *CAPS* which I use and I'm very happy with the result.  I do the same
 thing myself for COUNTRIES only.  The SHOUTING assertion applies to
 sentences, not single words in all CAPS for emphasis and to spot easily.
 Jerry

 Sent from my android device.



 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:00
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

 **

 Ken,
 My replay was to Jerry who wants the upper case surnames and countries.
 Sent from my Kindle Fire

 --
 *From:* KenMcGinnis kenmcgin...@legacyusers.com
 *Sent:* Thu Mar 22 17:23:14 PDT 2012
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

 David,

 Can you give me the RIN's or names that you are seeing in all caps.  I
 just looked and my sample (the one I install) doesn't have all caps.   For
 any of the names or any of the locations.  Anyway, let me know what you are
 seeing.

 If you want the newest sample just delete your sample file and re-install
 from our website and it will give you the latest sample file that we use.

  Thanks,

  Ken McGinnis
 Millennia Corporation
 kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
  We are changing the world of genealogy!



 --
 *From*: David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com
 *Sent*: Thursday, March 22, 2012 6:11 PM
 *To*: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject*: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

  In my opinion there should be NOTHING in all caps. Some surnames have
 embedded caps and some do not, but they are spelt the same way, except for
 the caps.

 As for states and countries, no way either. We do not need to be shouting
 in our data.



 Thanks,
 David C Abernathy
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 *From:* Jerry Peterson [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:40 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File



 Of course, I met put the name of the COUNTRY and SURNAMES in ALL CAPS - I
 did not say that quite right.   Thanks.   --Jerry

 On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Jerry Peterson 
 jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Sherry or to whom it may concern:



 I opened up the sample file that Legacy always ships with the downloads
 and noticed that it has not yet been changed to the new standard United
 States.   It still has USA.   Just bringing this to your attention if the
 programmers want to make sure it is set to the new standard in the sample
 file that many new users might look at.



 On a side note, I always capitalize the name of the COUNTRY because I want
 it to stand out the same way that many of us choose to have Legacy
 capitalize all the SURNAMES.   As far as I know, this won't cause any
 problems with gedcoms, except I'm not positive if some of the programs
 might try to change it back to just initial capitals.  Does anyone know?
  Thanks,



 Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org



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--
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Heritage Makers
Personal Publishing Consultant
Phone: 801-921-9644
www.heritagemakers.com/ourlegacycreations
*What do you do with your photos?*  In a box? Among thousands of others on
your computer?
*Would you like to learn how to organize  share them with family and have
them last for generations**?*
Inexpensive Scanning of photos, negatives  slides combined with creating
storybooks, calendars, greeting cards and an endless array of heritage
items will make you the family 

RE: [LegacyUG] Families for Android 1.5.0.

[Malcolm Green]

Updates to apps are free, providing you use the same app store login as for 
your original purchase.



Malcolm Green



From: mbstx [mailto:msz...@mindspring.com]
Sent: 23 March 2012 13:52
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Families for Android 1.5.0.



Is this an upgrade that I can now download, or a whole new purchase?

-Original Message-
From: Malcolm Green
Sent: Mar 23, 2012 5:44 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Families for Android 1.5.0.




Families 1.5.0 for Android is now available. This version contains the 
following changes:



- Improve efficiency of relationship calculation

- redesign search options and add search by location

- support tags for individual and marriage

- add settings option for maximum descendant generations

- allow selection of alternative parents in Pedigree View

- bug fixes



The new version is available in Android Market, SlideME and will be available 
in the Amazon Appstore within a day or two.



NEW!! Families is now also available in the NOOK Store.



Malcolm Green



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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

[Ronald Bernier]

More importantly, the all caps refers to shouting in communication(s) only.  
It is utterly absurd to classify using capital letters in a genealogy program 
as shouting.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI

From: Kathy Meyer [mailto:kmeyer2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 11:31 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

There have been a bunch of replies but nothing to answer the question. Wish I 
knew how to answer you because I think I actually understand what you need.  
Maybe you could call someone or redirect your email straight to Geoff?  I was 
actually interested in the answer.  Good luck! Kathy
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:56 PM, 
jerrysemailgro...@gmail.commailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote:

I made no request that Legacy change anything regarding the use of all CAPS in 
anything.  They already have the option to display surnames in all CAPS which I 
use and I'm very happy with the result.  I do the same thing myself for 
COUNTRIES only.  The SHOUTING assertion applies to sentences, not single words 
in all CAPS for emphasis and to spot easily.  Jerry

Sent from my android device.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Abernathy 
da...@schmeckabernathy.commailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:00
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

Ken,
My replay was to Jerry who wants the upper case surnames and countries.
Sent from my Kindle Fire

From: KenMcGinnis 
kenmcgin...@legacyusers.commailto:kenmcgin...@legacyusers.com
Sent: Thu Mar 22 17:23:14 PDT 2012
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

David,

Can you give me the RIN's or names that you are seeing in all caps.  I just 
looked and my sample (the one I install) doesn't have all caps.   For any of 
the names or any of the locations.  Anyway, let me know what you are seeing.

If you want the newest sample just delete your sample file and re-install from 
our website and it will give you the latest sample file that we use.
Thanks,

Ken McGinnis
Millennia Corporation
kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.commailto:kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
We are changing the world of genealogy!



From: David C Abernathy 
da...@schmeckabernathy.commailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 6:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File
In my opinion there should be NOTHING in all caps. Some surnames have embedded 
caps and some do not, but they are spelt the same way, except for the caps.
As for states and countries, no way either. We do not need to be shouting in 
our data.

Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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From: Jerry Peterson 
[mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.commailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

Of course, I met put the name of the COUNTRY and SURNAMES in ALL CAPS - I did 
not say that quite right.   Thanks.   --Jerry
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Jerry Peterson 
jerrysemailgro...@gmail.commailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Sherry or to whom it may concern:

I opened up the sample file that Legacy always ships with the downloads and 
noticed that it has not yet been changed to the new standard United States.   
It still has USA.   Just bringing this to your attention if the programmers 
want to make sure it is set to the new standard in the sample file that many 
new users might look at.

On a side note, I always capitalize the name of the COUNTRY because I want it 
to stand out the same way that many of us choose to have Legacy capitalize all 
the SURNAMES.   As far as I know, this won't cause any problems with gedcoms, 
except I'm not positive if some of the programs might try to change it back to 
just initial capitals.  Does anyone know?  Thanks,

Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org

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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

[Michele Lewis]

Per the register and modified register systems, the names that do have surnames 
in all caps have them in small caps (2 points below the main font).  This looks 
so much better than all caps.  Does Legacy have this option to have this in 
reports?  I hand type my reports so I don’t know.



michele



From: Ronald Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 11:43 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File



More importantly, the all caps refers to shouting in communication(s) only.  
It is utterly absurd to classify using capital letters in a genealogy program 
as shouting.



Ron Bernier

Woonsocket, RI



From: Kathy Meyer [mailto:kmeyer2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 11:31 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File



There have been a bunch of replies but nothing to answer the question. Wish I 
knew how to answer you because I think I actually understand what you need.  
Maybe you could call someone or redirect your email straight to Geoff?  I was 
actually interested in the answer.  Good luck! Kathy

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:56 PM, jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote:

I made no request that Legacy change anything regarding the use of all CAPS in 
anything.  They already have the option to display surnames in all CAPS which I 
use and I'm very happy with the result.  I do the same thing myself for 
COUNTRIES only.  The SHOUTING assertion applies to sentences, not single words 
in all CAPS for emphasis and to spot easily.  Jerry

Sent from my android device.



-Original Message-
From: Dave Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:00
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

Ken,
My replay was to Jerry who wants the upper case surnames and countries.

Sent from my Kindle Fire

  _

From: KenMcGinnis kenmcgin...@legacyusers.com
Sent: Thu Mar 22 17:23:14 PDT 2012
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File


David,

Can you give me the RIN's or names that you are seeing in all caps.  I just 
looked and my sample (the one I install) doesn't have all caps.   For any of 
the names or any of the locations.  Anyway, let me know what you are seeing.

If you want the newest sample just delete your sample file and re-install from 
our website and it will give you the latest sample file that we use.

Thanks,



Ken McGinnis

Millennia Corporation

kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com

http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!





  _

From: David C Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 6:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

In my opinion there should be NOTHING in all caps. Some surnames have embedded 
caps and some do not, but they are spelt the same way, except for the caps.

As for states and countries, no way either. We do not need to be shouting in 
our data.



Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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From: Jerry Peterson [mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File



Of course, I met put the name of the COUNTRY and SURNAMES in ALL CAPS - I did 
not say that quite right.   Thanks.   --Jerry

On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Jerry Peterson jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi Sherry or to whom it may concern:



I opened up the sample file that Legacy always ships with the downloads and 
noticed that it has not yet been changed to the new standard United States.   
It still has USA.   Just bringing this to your attention if the programmers 
want to make sure it is set to the new standard in the sample file that many 
new users might look at.



On a side note, I always capitalize the name of the COUNTRY because I want it 
to stand out the same way that many of us choose to have Legacy capitalize all 
the SURNAMES.   As far as I know, this won't cause any problems with gedcoms, 
except I'm not positive if some of the programs might try to change it back to 
just initial capitals.  Does anyone know?  Thanks,



Jerry Boor - http://www.MerriamFamilyTree.org



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RE: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?

[Michele Lewis]

How interesting, Scott!

Michele
.

From: Scott Hall [mailto:seh0...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?

I'm similar to Michele in that I keep all official sources, but I track my 
sources in a different way -- via the Research Notes page.  I do this because 
at the moment I am not intending on publishing such that I need official 
sources as end notes right now.  At some point, I will have to consider how to 
move my source information.

I *do* keep all sources in the master list, I just don't link to the data 
fields (some exceptions, such as events, apply).

Instead I have a code system for all of my data within the Research Notes, such 
that I can see everywhere the data came from and what it said.  For example, 
here are the research notes for my grandfather:

***
Name
CEM-MoCC: Donald H. HALL
CEN-US1920: Donald H. HALL
CEN-US1930: Donald H. HALL
OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL
OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL (1)
OBIT-RDC: Donald HALL (2) (3)
PK-EGH: Donald Higgins HALL
RCA-HMR: Donald HALL
SSDI-RW: Donald HALL

Birth
CEM-MoCC: 1913
CEN-US1920: 6y [bet 2 Jan 1913 - 1 Jan 1914]; New York
CEN-US1930: 17y [bet 2 Apr 1912 - 1 Apr 1913]; New York
SSDI-RW: 6 Mar 1913
PK-EGH: White City, NY

Death
CEM-MoCC: 1976
OBIT-RDC: 15 Jun 1976
PK-EGH: Rochester, NY
SSDI-RW: Jun 1976

Burial
CEM-MoCC: West Webster Cem., Webster, NY
OBIT-RDC: cal 18 Jun 1976; West Webster Cem., Webster, NY

SSN
SSDI-RW: 715-01-9675

Notes
(1) Per father Fred's obituary [RIN 7].
(2) Per mother Nina's obituary [RIN 8].
(3) Per brother Gerald's obituary [RIN 38].

***
You can see, for example, that his name is sourced from various places -- 
Cemetery records (CEM-MoCC), Census records (CEN-US), Obituaries 
(OBIT-xxx), Marriage records (RCA-HMR), the SSDI (SSDI-xx), and the personal 
knowledge of my father (PK-EGH).



Scott


On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:28 PM, julia m aga...@hotmail.com wrote:
I was just wondering how other people handle this? For example:

You find someone's birthdate (or year) from a census, so you attach the census 
as the source. Later you read a few more things (obit, gravestone, etc) so you 
add those as sources to that piece of data. Then you finally receive a birth 
certificate that has the birthdate and you add that as a source.

Do you drop off some of these other sources and let, in this instance, the 
birth certificate be the only source for that piece of data? How do I know when 
enough is enough--or is it never enough and I should keep adding sources as I 
find them?!?

Thanks,
Julia


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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

[jerrysemailgroups]

Thanks for saying that, Ron.  This Asa Brown thread actually got started 
because I noticed that Legacy is still using USA in its Asa Brown sample file, 
that is shipped with Legacy, and not the new standard United States.  I should 
have created a different thread when I mentioned the ALL CAPS, a different 
issue.

I use ALL CAPS for the country only, such as CANADA, because it looks really 
good that way and makes the country easy to spot.  I don't use ALL CAPS for 
surnames because Legacy already allows me to display surnames in ALL CAPS.  I 
am not suggesting Legacy make the countries an ALL CAPS display option because 
not everyone uses the standard location for country.  However, if they could 
make it an option only for those who wanted it, it would be excellent.  I hope 
this explains it a bit better.  Thanks,  Jerry

Sent from my android device.



-Original Message-
From: Ronald Bernier ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 11:43
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

More importantly, the all caps refers to shouting in communication(s) only.  
It is utterly absurd to classify using capital letters in a genealogy program 
as shouting.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI

From: Kathy Meyer [mailto:kmeyer2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 11:31 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

There have been a bunch of replies but nothing to answer the question. Wish I 
knew how to answer you because I think I actually understand what you need.  
Maybe you could call someone or redirect your email straight to Geoff?  I was 
actually interested in the answer.  Good luck! Kathy
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:56 PM, 
jerrysemailgro...@gmail.commailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote:

I made no request that Legacy change anything regarding the use of all CAPS in 
anything.  They already have the option to display surnames in all CAPS which I 
use and I'm very happy with the result.  I do the same thing myself for 
COUNTRIES only.  The SHOUTING assertion applies to sentences, not single words 
in all CAPS for emphasis and to spot easily.  Jerry

Sent from my android device.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Abernathy 
da...@schmeckabernathy.commailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 21:00
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

Ken,
My replay was to Jerry who wants the upper case surnames and countries.
Sent from my Kindle Fire

From: KenMcGinnis 
kenmcgin...@legacyusers.commailto:kenmcgin...@legacyusers.com
Sent: Thu Mar 22 17:23:14 PDT 2012
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

David,

Can you give me the RIN's or names that you are seeing in all caps.  I just 
looked and my sample (the one I install) doesn't have all caps.   For any of 
the names or any of the locations.  Anyway, let me know what you are seeing.

If you want the newest sample just delete your sample file and re-install from 
our website and it will give you the latest sample file that we use.
Thanks,

Ken McGinnis
Millennia Corporation
kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.commailto:kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
We are changing the world of genealogy!



From: David C Abernathy 
da...@schmeckabernathy.commailto:da...@schmeckabernathy.com
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 6:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File
In my opinion there should be NOTHING in all caps. Some surnames have embedded 
caps and some do not, but they are spelt the same way, except for the caps.
As for states and countries, no way either. We do not need to be shouting in 
our data.

Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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From: Jerry Peterson 
[mailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.commailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:40 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

Of course, I met put the name of the COUNTRY and SURNAMES in ALL CAPS - I did 
not say that quite right.   Thanks.   --Jerry
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Jerry Peterson 
jerrysemailgro...@gmail.commailto:jerrysemailgro...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Sherry or to whom it may concern:

I opened up the sample file that Legacy always ships with the downloads and 
noticed that it 

RE: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

[Michele Lewis]

Yup.  You can simply use the windows shortcuts for special characters.  For 
example, if you hold down the ALT button and type 0246 using the NUMBERS PAD on 
the right side of the keyboard, you will get a small case o with umlauts.  (I 
can't type it in here because I am using plain text).  I have them all 
memorized since I speak German and use it a lot.  There is also a Legacy way to 
do it. If you bring up the individual screen, on the left side you will see a 
vertical bar under the clipboard symbols that holds special characters which 
you can customize.   Left click on the bar and then you can add up to 8 special 
characters from the Windows character map.  Touse a special character all you 
have to do is click it and it will insert it into your text.


Michele



From: Barbara [mailto:bschwart...@twcny.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Is there a way to make German letters or use umlauts in our English reports?

Barb


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Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?

[Sherry/Support]

I'd like to interject here You might not be planning at the moment
to publish, but you do need to think about the future use of your
Family File.

I lead a Legacy User Group and have spent the past three months
teaching the group how to fix something just like this. The group
member who volunteered her file had just put all her source
information and data that should be in events into the Notes field
because it was quick and easy and she was on a roll in a research
session.  And it never got cleaned up.

She's a retired teacher, very intelligent and very computer literate,
teaching computer classes herself. She just wasn't real focused on
correct data entry at the time she got the data and now is going to be
spending a lot of time setting things right.

I've spent the time going through the notes of just *one* individual
(and we haven't even finished that one person!), detailing how the
sources should be entered as sources and how the events should be
entered as events and how the sources can be also considered events'
and events can also be sources.

She realizes she has a major task ahead of her to clean up her file so
it's in a presentable format at the time she needs to pass it on to
another family member to continue with the research.

In this process, we found a lot of duplication in various areas

We talked about creating sources, merging duplicate sources, correctly
entering locations, merging locations, merging events, creating To-Do
items, etc.  It's been an excellent teaching experience for all!

Several members in the group who had also just been dumping
everything into notes were encouraged to clean up their files and have
spent hours fixing things when they could have done it the right way
the first time and now be working on the brick walls instead of doing
clean-up!

So think about what you're going to do with the file and data in the
long run and do it right from the start so you don't waste time
redoing it all later!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm similar to Michele in that I keep all official sources, but I track my
 sources in a different way -- via the Research Notes page.  I do this
 because at the moment I am not intending on publishing such that I need
 official sources as end notes right now.  At some point, I will have to
 consider how to move my source information.

 I *do* keep all sources in the master list, I just don't link to the data
 fields (some exceptions, such as events, apply).

 Instead I have a code system for all of my data within the Research Notes,
 such that I can see everywhere the data came from and what it said.  For
 example, here are the research notes for my grandfather:
snip



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Re: [LegacyUG] For those that use the to-do list, what is the best way to do this?

[Brian/Support]

You could tag those To-Dos which are pending a response or which require
your action.
The Tagged To-Dos which are still open would then give you a list of the
items still waiting for a response or those which you need to work on
depending on how you use the tag.

You do not even have to edit the To-Do. The Tag box in the lower left of
the To-Do List screen will tag or untag the selected To-Do.

If you click on the filter options tab of the To-Do list you can elect
to show only tagged or only untagged.

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On 23/03/2012 8:56 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
 I use the to-do list a lot.  I need to way to distinguish between things I
 need to do and things I have done and I am just waiting for the results.
 For example, I might have a to-do saying that I need to get a marriage
 license for someone but I haven't actually mailed off a request yet.  I also
 have some to-dos where I have already mailed off for the marriage license
 and I am waiting for the courthouse to respond.  I need a way to
 differentiate between these two situations.  something I need to do but
 haven't yet, vs. something I have done and I am only waiting for the
 results.  I want to be able to filter so that I can have a list of things I
 still need to do.  What the best way to do this?

 michele



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[LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

[Marianne Szabo]

Hi - I just tried nFS linking to it via my Legacy database.  In the filters,
I selected Suppress living, which did eliminate living persons in the
list.  BUT, one person in the list who comes up with a match has all of her
children displayed, including those who are still living.  How do I prevent
this information from displaying?

Marianne




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RE: [LegacyUG] For those that use the to-do list, what is the best way to do this?

[Michele Lewis]

Thanks, Brian.  I do think this is what I will do.  It will make seeing what I 
have done and what I need to do much easier.

Michele


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] For those that use the to-do list, what is the best way 
to do this?

You could tag those To-Dos which are pending a response or which require your 
action.
The Tagged To-Dos which are still open would then give you a list of the items 
still waiting for a response or those which you need to work on depending on 
how you use the tag.

You do not even have to edit the To-Do. The Tag box in the lower left of the 
To-Do List screen will tag or untag the selected To-Do.

If you click on the filter options tab of the To-Do list you can elect to show 
only tagged or only untagged.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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Thanks.

On 23/03/2012 8:56 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
 I use the to-do list a lot.  I need to way to distinguish between
 things I need to do and things I have done and I am just waiting for the 
 results.
 For example, I might have a to-do saying that I need to get a marriage
 license for someone but I haven't actually mailed off a request yet.
 I also have some to-dos where I have already mailed off for the
 marriage license and I am waiting for the courthouse to respond.  I
 need a way to differentiate between these two situations.  something I
 need to do but haven't yet, vs. something I have done and I am only
 waiting for the results.  I want to be able to filter so that I can
 have a list of things I still need to do.  What the best way to do this?

 michele



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RE: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?

[Michele Lewis]

I will say this, the one benefit of having to clean up your file is you will 
find a lot of errors you didn't even know were there.  That is what  I found 
when I cleaned up all my stuff after switching from FTM to Legacy about 8 years 
ago.

Michele


-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?

I'd like to interject here You might not be planning at the moment to 
publish, but you do need to think about the future use of your Family File.

I lead a Legacy User Group and have spent the past three months teaching the 
group how to fix something just like this. The group member who volunteered 
her file had just put all her source information and data that should be in 
events into the Notes field because it was quick and easy and she was on a 
roll in a research session.  And it never got cleaned up.

She's a retired teacher, very intelligent and very computer literate, teaching 
computer classes herself. She just wasn't real focused on correct data entry at 
the time she got the data and now is going to be spending a lot of time setting 
things right.

I've spent the time going through the notes of just *one* individual (and we 
haven't even finished that one person!), detailing how the sources should be 
entered as sources and how the events should be entered as events and how the 
sources can be also considered events'
and events can also be sources.

She realizes she has a major task ahead of her to clean up her file so it's in 
a presentable format at the time she needs to pass it on to another family 
member to continue with the research.

In this process, we found a lot of duplication in various areas

We talked about creating sources, merging duplicate sources, correctly entering 
locations, merging locations, merging events, creating To-Do items, etc.  It's 
been an excellent teaching experience for all!

Several members in the group who had also just been dumping
everything into notes were encouraged to clean up their files and have spent 
hours fixing things when they could have done it the right way
the first time and now be working on the brick walls instead of doing clean-up!

So think about what you're going to do with the file and data in the long run 
and do it right from the start so you don't waste time redoing it all later!


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Scott Hall seh0...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm similar to Michele in that I keep all official sources, but I
 track my sources in a different way -- via the Research Notes page.  I
 do this because at the moment I am not intending on publishing such
 that I need official sources as end notes right now.  At some point, I
 will have to consider how to move my source information.

 I *do* keep all sources in the master list, I just don't link to the
 data fields (some exceptions, such as events, apply).

 Instead I have a code system for all of my data within the Research
 Notes, such that I can see everywhere the data came from and what it
 said.  For example, here are the research notes for my grandfather:
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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

[Brian/Support]

Legacy does have the option to include Surnames in Uppercase but it does
not apply the convention you mention of using a font that is two points
smaller than the report font. Surnames use the same font size as the
rest of the report body.

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On 23/03/2012 12:21 PM, Michele Lewis wrote:
 Per the register and modified register systems, the names that do have 
 surnames in all caps have them in small caps (2 points below the main font).  
 This looks so much better than all caps.  Does Legacy have this option to 
 have this in reports?  I hand type my reports so I don’t know.



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Re: [LegacyUG] For those that use the to-do list, what is the best way to do this?

[cstegert]

I like to work from reports created through the search function.  Maybe I'm 
looking for no birth dates or no surnames or . . . I tag the list. Then I could 
work through the to-do list and put in the repository and notes.  When I go to 
a repository it is difficult then to work through priorities with just the 
tagged individual list. It would be nice if that search list could create 
to-do's for each individual on the list. (Just the basic search information 
would fill in the fields, ie Birth Date, Location would be from the location 
indicated, what is the task would simply be find birth date). My thought is 
then as I am at a repository all my to-do's for that repository are there for 
everyone, plus all my research goals for each individual is there; otherwise, I 
bounce between the to-do's and the tags (no repository information)  and then I 
get off track.

Or maybe there is a way and I've not discovered it yet
Thanks


 Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
 You could tag those To-Dos which are pending a response or which require
 your action.
 The Tagged To-Dos which are still open would then give you a list of the
 items still waiting for a response or those which you need to work on
 depending on how you use the tag.

 You do not even have to edit the To-Do. The Tag box in the lower left of
 the To-Do List screen will tag or untag the selected To-Do.

 If you click on the filter options tab of the To-Do list you can elect
 to show only tagged or only untagged.

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 On 23/03/2012 8:56 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:
  I use the to-do list a lot.  I need to way to distinguish between things I
  need to do and things I have done and I am just waiting for the results.
  For example, I might have a to-do saying that I need to get a marriage
  license for someone but I haven't actually mailed off a request yet.  I also
  have some to-dos where I have already mailed off for the marriage license
  and I am waiting for the courthouse to respond.  I need a way to
  differentiate between these two situations.  something I need to do but
  haven't yet, vs. something I have done and I am only waiting for the
  results.  I want to be able to filter so that I can have a list of things I
  still need to do.  What the best way to do this?
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

[Michele Lewis]

If I am understanding you correctly, you are seeing the living people over in 
the right pane (the box that shows what is actually up on FamilySearch)?

I tried this with my own file.  I always suppress living on my filter.  I 
selected my grandfather.  He still has 3 children living.  On the right pane I 
see all three of those living children.  I never added them).  So I went to New 
FamilySearch and to see.  Someone (not me) had added my three uncles that are 
still living and that is why they are showing up.  Other than sending an email 
to the person who submitted the info and ask them to remove it, there isn't 
much you can do.

OR are you talking about the LEFT pane, which shows what is on your computer 
The living children DO show up here but you know they are living so don't add 
them to nFS.  Maybe that is what you are talking about?  No, it apparently does 
not suppress the living children of the dead ancestor.

michele

-Original Message-
From: Marianne Szabo [mailto:msz...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

Hi - I just tried nFS linking to it via my Legacy database.  In the filters, I 
selected Suppress living, which did eliminate living persons in the list.  
BUT, one person in the list who comes up with a match has all of her children 
displayed, including those who are still living.  How do I prevent this 
information from displaying?

Marianne




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RE: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

[Paul Gray]

Actually, using plain text doesn't prevent the use of special characters. 
ALT+0246 will display as ö

Paul

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From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com]
Sent: March-23-12 10:30 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Yup.  You can simply use the windows shortcuts for special characters.  For 
example, if you hold down the ALT button and type 0246 using the NUMBERS PAD on 
the right side of the keyboard, you will get a small case o with umlauts.  (I 
can't type it in here because I am using plain text).  I have them all 
memorized since I speak German and use it a lot.  There is also a Legacy way to 
do it. If you bring up the individual screen, on the left side you will see a 
vertical bar under the clipboard symbols that holds special characters which 
you can customize.   Left click on the bar and then you can add up to 8 special 
characters from the Windows character map.  Touse a special character all you 
have to do is click it and it will insert it into your text.


Michele



From: Barbara [mailto:bschwart...@twcny.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Is there a way to make German letters or use umlauts in our English reports?

Barb


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Re: [LegacyUG] Webinar glitch

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Where's the Like button for your response Jenny? I love it. Yes, that's
what was in my mind too.

Thanks,

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On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.ukwrote:


 Geoff Rasmussen wrote:
  I messed up this morning and removed the wrong recording. It's all back
 to
  normal now. Sorry 'bout that.
 

 You're forgiven, Geoff!

 When I was an IT tutor and did something in error I used to tell my
 students that I occasionally made a deliberate mistake because I didn't
 want them to be over-awed by my perfection!!

 --
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[LegacyUG] Townships - fitting them into the locations?

[Marg Strong]

If there is just a township, I put it in the place of the town. But I like to 
know which township the city/town is in. Right now I am adding the township in 
parenthesis after the town/city name. I haven't yet experimented with printing 
out reports since my focus is on research. Will I run into a problem doing it 
with the parenthesis?
Thank you!









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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources question

[Kirsten Bowman]

Darren:

I would suggest that you watch the “Watch Geoff Live” webinars.  Although I 
don’t see one on birth certs, there are sessions on adding marriage and death 
certificates and the concept is very similar.  You’ll pick up a lot of tips 
from those that will get you off to a good start with Legacy.

Kirsten


From: Darren Walker
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:29 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources question

Hello, I have recently purchase Legacy and I’ve watched the beginners video. My 
question relates to entering a birth certificate. It’s one document but 
contains a lot of information for the child, mother and father etc. I have 
entered this once as a master source. Then do I cite a master source each time 
I refer to it? I will refer to it many times but to enter the certificate no, 
year, person details each time is a lot of typing. Is this how everyone else 
does it?



Thank you,

Darren.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?

[Kirsten Bowman]

Scott:

To each his own, but I sincerely hope that Legacy users don’t jump on this
particular bandwagon.

Years ago I was an FTM user and the sourcing capability was so weak that I
too put everything in Notes.  On switching to Legacy I found that converting
those notes to proper sources was a major project.  When the tools are there
to allow doing it right, it's *so* much better to use them.

Kirsten

From: Scott Hall
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 9:09 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?

I'm similar to Michele in that I keep all official sources, but I track my
sources in a different way -- via the Research Notes page.  I do this
because at the moment I am not intending on publishing such that I need
official sources as end notes right now.  At some point, I will have to
consider how to move my source information.

I *do* keep all sources in the master list, I just don't link to the data
fields (some exceptions, such as events, apply).

Instead I have a code system for all of my data within the Research Notes,
such that I can see everywhere the data came from and what it said.  For
example, here are the research notes for my grandfather:

***
Name
CEM-MoCC: Donald H. HALL
CEN-US1920: Donald H. HALL
CEN-US1930: Donald H. HALL
OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL
OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL (1)
OBIT-RDC: Donald HALL (2) (3)
PK-EGH: Donald Higgins HALL
RCA-HMR: Donald HALL
SSDI-RW: Donald HALL

Birth
CEM-MoCC: 1913
CEN-US1920: 6y [bet 2 Jan 1913 - 1 Jan 1914]; New York
CEN-US1930: 17y [bet 2 Apr 1912 - 1 Apr 1913]; New York
SSDI-RW: 6 Mar 1913
PK-EGH: White City, NY

Death
CEM-MoCC: 1976
OBIT-RDC: 15 Jun 1976
PK-EGH: Rochester, NY
SSDI-RW: Jun 1976

Burial
CEM-MoCC: West Webster Cem., Webster, NY
OBIT-RDC: cal 18 Jun 1976; West Webster Cem., Webster, NY

SSN
SSDI-RW: 715-01-9675

Notes
(1) Per father Fred's obituary [RIN 7].
(2) Per mother Nina's obituary [RIN 8].
(3) Per brother Gerald's obituary [RIN 38].

***
You can see, for example, that his name is sourced from various places --
Cemetery records (CEM-MoCC), Census records (CEN-US), Obituaries
(OBIT-xxx), Marriage records (RCA-HMR), the SSDI (SSDI-xx), and the personal
knowledge of my father (PK-EGH).



Scott




On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:28 PM, julia m aga...@hotmail.com wrote:

I was just wondering how other people handle this? For example:

You find someone's birthdate (or year) from a census, so you attach the
census as the source. Later you read a few more things (obit, gravestone,
etc) so you add those as sources to that piece of data. Then you finally
receive a birth certificate that has the birthdate and you add that as a
source.

Do you drop off some of these other sources and let, in this instance, the
birth certificate be the only source for that piece of data? How do I know
when enough is enough--or is it never enough and I should keep adding
sources as I find them?!?

Thanks,
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RE: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

[Michele Lewis]

Weird.  I tried it and I only got an empty box.  Ööö  Now it is working so it 
must have been operator error :)

michele

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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:32 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Actually, using plain text doesn't prevent the use of special characters. 
ALT+0246 will display as ö

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com]
Sent: March-23-12 10:30 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Yup.  You can simply use the windows shortcuts for special characters.  For 
example, if you hold down the ALT button and type 0246 using the NUMBERS PAD on 
the right side of the keyboard, you will get a small case o with umlauts.  (I 
can't type it in here because I am using plain text).  I have them all 
memorized since I speak German and use it a lot.  There is also a Legacy way to 
do it. If you bring up the individual screen, on the left side you will see a 
vertical bar under the clipboard symbols that holds special characters which 
you can customize.   Left click on the bar and then you can add up to 8 special 
characters from the Windows character map.  Touse a special character all you 
have to do is click it and it will insert it into your text.


Michele



From: Barbara [mailto:bschwart...@twcny.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Is there a way to make German letters or use umlauts in our English reports?

Barb


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Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?

[Scott Hall]

Those of you critical of my approach are right -- it will be a lot of work
to bring the source information into the proper format.  I will say that
even if I had all sourcing in (as I do for events like census), I still
would use my note system as I want to track where differences are -- and
see them at a glance -- which is the whole point of Research Notes.

If I were doing this the ideal way, I'd track the data in notes AND record
the sources against the data field.  I didn't do this last step because I
wasn't sure the best way to record multiple sources (the point of the OP's
question) -- show every source, or decide which was the most viable?  In my
example, I have nine sources for my grandfather's name -- most of them
identical to each other.  I probably don't need to record 9 sources for one
fact -- so which do I choose?  The obituary, cemetery transcription, and
census are all about equal levels of surety, but the only source of his
middle name comes from the personal knowledge of my father, which is, by
definition, less reliable than official sources.  Even when I answer this
question and decide which sources to link, I think that I would still wish
to keep the Research Notes as they not only provide the at a glance
reference I mentioned before, but also serve as a research log.  I know I
don't need to search out his obituary, or look for him in the SSDI -- I've
already done that and capture what those sources said.


Scott


On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote:

 Scott:

 To each his own, but I sincerely hope that Legacy users don’t jump on
 this
 particular bandwagon.

 Years ago I was an FTM user and the sourcing capability was so weak that I
 too put everything in Notes.  On switching to Legacy I found that
 converting
 those notes to proper sources was a major project.  When the tools are
 there
 to allow doing it right, it's *so* much better to use them.

 Kirsten

 From: Scott Hall
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 9:09 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Do you limit your # of sources for one fact?

 I'm similar to Michele in that I keep all official sources, but I track
 my
 sources in a different way -- via the Research Notes page.  I do this
 because at the moment I am not intending on publishing such that I need
 official sources as end notes right now.  At some point, I will have to
 consider how to move my source information.

 I *do* keep all sources in the master list, I just don't link to the data
 fields (some exceptions, such as events, apply).

 Instead I have a code system for all of my data within the Research Notes,
 such that I can see everywhere the data came from and what it said.  For
 example, here are the research notes for my grandfather:

 ***
 Name
 CEM-MoCC: Donald H. HALL
 CEN-US1920: Donald H. HALL
 CEN-US1930: Donald H. HALL
 OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL
 OBIT-RDC: Donald H. HALL (1)
 OBIT-RDC: Donald HALL (2) (3)
 PK-EGH: Donald Higgins HALL
 RCA-HMR: Donald HALL
 SSDI-RW: Donald HALL

 Birth
 CEM-MoCC: 1913
 CEN-US1920: 6y [bet 2 Jan 1913 - 1 Jan 1914]; New York
 CEN-US1930: 17y [bet 2 Apr 1912 - 1 Apr 1913]; New York
 SSDI-RW: 6 Mar 1913
 PK-EGH: White City, NY

 Death
 CEM-MoCC: 1976
 OBIT-RDC: 15 Jun 1976
 PK-EGH: Rochester, NY
 SSDI-RW: Jun 1976

 Burial
 CEM-MoCC: West Webster Cem., Webster, NY
 OBIT-RDC: cal 18 Jun 1976; West Webster Cem., Webster, NY

 SSN
 SSDI-RW: 715-01-9675

 Notes
 (1) Per father Fred's obituary [RIN 7].
 (2) Per mother Nina's obituary [RIN 8].
 (3) Per brother Gerald's obituary [RIN 38].

 ***
 You can see, for example, that his name is sourced from various places --
 Cemetery records (CEM-MoCC), Census records (CEN-US), Obituaries
 (OBIT-xxx), Marriage records (RCA-HMR), the SSDI (SSDI-xx), and the
 personal
 knowledge of my father (PK-EGH).



 Scott




 On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 1:28 PM, julia m aga...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I was just wondering how other people handle this? For example:

 You find someone's birthdate (or year) from a census, so you attach the
 census as the source. Later you read a few more things (obit, gravestone,
 etc) so you add those as sources to that piece of data. Then you finally
 receive a birth certificate that has the birthdate and you add that as a
 source.

 Do you drop off some of these other sources and let, in this instance, the
 birth certificate be the only source for that piece of data? How do I know
 when enough is enough--or is it never enough and I should keep adding
 sources as I find them?!?

 Thanks,
 Julia





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Re: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I found an easy way to include 'non-English' letters in my Legacy names for 
people/places. Since the letter strip only holds 8 characters 4 caps and 4 
smalls, I create a strip with as many as I need by pasting those at the bottom 
of the typing in the 'signature section'  of my document. I have it saved in a 
document called 'otherletters', which stays near top of all documents; then 
clip it to any needed one. It takes a while to get it done, but 
I understand it. I only deal for me with ascii ones.
Good Luck Rich
 


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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 9:12 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters



Is there a way to make German letters or use
umlauts in our English reports?
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

welcome to the club.
Rich



 From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Weird.  I tried it and I only got an empty box.  Ööö  Now it is working so it 
must have been operator error :)

michele

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gray [mailto:grayp...@telus.net]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:32 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Actually, using plain text doesn't prevent the use of special characters. 
ALT+0246 will display as ö

Paul

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From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com]
Sent: March-23-12 10:30 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Yup.  You can simply use the windows shortcuts for special characters.  For 
example, if you hold down the ALT button and type 0246 using the NUMBERS PAD on 
the right side of the keyboard, you will get a small case o with umlauts.  (I 
can't type it in here because I am using plain text).  I have them all 
memorized since I speak German and use it a lot.  There is also a Legacy way to 
do it. If you bring up the individual screen, on the left side you will see a 
vertical bar under the clipboard symbols that holds special characters which 
you can customize.   Left click on the bar and then you can add up to 8 special 
characters from the Windows character map.  Touse a special character all you 
have to do is click it and it will insert it into your text.


Michele



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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Is there a way to make German letters or use umlauts in our English reports?

Barb


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Re: [LegacyUG] cancelling a mistake

[Elizabeth]

Thanks - I've now managed to open the backup file successfully but
when I first opened Legacy today, it opened the file I am trying to
lose because of the muddled sources.  It seems to me that I have a
number of Legacy files listed as  C:\Users\...
Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\ but I can't
migrate any nearer to them than Microsoft\Windows - in other words, I
can't find the Temporary Internet files.
Any ideas, please?

On 22 March 2012 23:23, Dave Naylor davidcnay...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Elizabeth,

 On 22 Mar 2012  Elizabeth wrote:

 Yes, I've done that File Restore Family File - migrate to folder 
 highlight the file  click open - nothing happens.

 What do you mean by nothing happens?  Just Legacy just sit there
 with no family data and no messages?

 I've tried unzipping the file etc. and that gives me five files
 but none of them open.

 Is one of them a something .fdb ?  If so then trying to open it
 should at least elicit a message of some sort.  If so what does the
 *first* message say?

 Cheers! -- Dave N.


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RE: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

[mbstx]

Yes, it's the left pane I'm talking about.  There is a possible match in the 
right pane that has no children information.  My concern is that if the person 
who entered the info in the right pane looks for a match he/she will see the 
living people in what's my left pane.  Is that possible?  M

-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com
Sent: Mar 23, 2012 12:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

If I am understanding you correctly, you are seeing the living people over in 
the right pane (the box that shows what is actually up on FamilySearch)?

I tried this with my own file.  I always suppress living on my filter.  I 
selected my grandfather.  He still has 3 children living.  On the right pane I 
see all three of those living children.  I never added them).  So I went to 
New FamilySearch and to see.  Someone (not me) had added my three uncles that 
are still living and that is why they are showing up.  Other than sending an 
email to the person who submitted the info and ask them to remove it, there 
isn't much you can do.

OR are you talking about the LEFT pane, which shows what is on your computer 
The living children DO show up here but you know they are living so don't add 
them to nFS.  Maybe that is what you are talking about?  No, it apparently 
does not suppress the living children of the dead ancestor.

michele

-Original Message-
From: Marianne Szabo [mailto:msz...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

Hi - I just tried nFS linking to it via my Legacy database.  In the filters, I 
selected Suppress living, which did eliminate living persons in the list.  
BUT, one person in the list who comes up with a match has all of her children 
displayed, including those who are still living.  How do I prevent this 
information from displaying?

Marianne




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Re: [LegacyUG] cancelling a mistake

[Mike Fry]

On 2012/03/23 23:13, Elizabeth wrote:

 lose because of the muddled sources.  It seems to me that I have a
 number of Legacy files listed as  C:\Users\...
 Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\ but I can't
 migrate any nearer to them than Microsoft\Windows - in other words, I
 can't find the Temporary Internet files.

The key word here is 'Temporary' and then 'Internet Files'!

This is your Internet Browser Cache! There shouldn't be any Legacy files in 
there.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] cancelling a mistake

[Sherry/Support]

I don't know why any of your Family Files would be in the Temporary
Internt Files folder. Any files there can be ignored - they're just
files that are stored there when you browse web pages.

Your data files should be in the c:\Legacy\Data folder.  Look there.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Elizabeth roobee...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks - I've now managed to open the backup file successfully but
 when I first opened Legacy today, it opened the file I am trying to
 lose because of the muddled sources.  It seems to me that I have a
 number of Legacy files listed as  C:\Users\...
 Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\ but I can't
 migrate any nearer to them than Microsoft\Windows - in other words, I
 can't find the Temporary Internet files.
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RE: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

[Michele Lewis]

NO!  That isn't possible!  No one can see what is in  that left pane but YOU.  
The only way others can see it is if you upload the info to nFS and the way you 
do that is you click on the little arrow thing to the left of the fact on your 
side (left) of the screen.  If you don't do that, no info transfers and no one 
else can see it.  If you DO click on the little arrow thing, then it will 
appear in the right pane.


Michele


-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 5:25 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

Yes, it's the left pane I'm talking about.  There is a possible match in the 
right pane that has no children information.  My concern is that if the person 
who entered the info in the right pane looks for a match he/she will see the 
living people in what's my left pane.  Is that possible?  M

-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com
Sent: Mar 23, 2012 12:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

If I am understanding you correctly, you are seeing the living people over in 
the right pane (the box that shows what is actually up on FamilySearch)?

I tried this with my own file.  I always suppress living on my filter.  I 
selected my grandfather.  He still has 3 children living.  On the right pane I 
see all three of those living children.  I never added them).  So I went to 
New FamilySearch and to see.  Someone (not me) had added my three uncles that 
are still living and that is why they are showing up.  Other than sending an 
email to the person who submitted the info and ask them to remove it, there 
isn't much you can do.

OR are you talking about the LEFT pane, which shows what is on your computer 
The living children DO show up here but you know they are living so don't add 
them to nFS.  Maybe that is what you are talking about?  No, it apparently 
does not suppress the living children of the dead ancestor.

michele

-Original Message-
From: Marianne Szabo [mailto:msz...@mindspring.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

Hi - I just tried nFS linking to it via my Legacy database.  In the filters, I 
selected Suppress living, which did eliminate living persons in the list.  
BUT, one person in the list who comes up with a match has all of her children 
displayed, including those who are still living.  How do I prevent this 
information from displaying?

Marianne




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RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

[Jan Roberts]

Like I said Sherry, it is force of habit to type them that way.  I was typing 
family history reports long before I began using a computer to automate much of 
the work. I don't get problem warnings (so must have turned off the option).  I 
know Legacy knows it is a surname - I'm not doing it for the program, I'm doing 
it for me, and potential readers of printed reports.  I don't see that it 
matters how I actually enter them.  I also know I can change settings within 
the program to make it show surnames the way I want - I just choose to make 
sure by typing them in Uppercase.  It's a bit like the place name debate - I 
enter locations the way I want them to be, not according to some artificial 
structure.  Never had a problem.  In fact some of my locations are things like 
the home of his parents, The Times, London etc. because that is what suits 
the sentence structure I have used.  As so many people say - Legacy has the 
flexibility to let the user do things the way they want.

Cheers
Jan
-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:34
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Asa Brown Sample File

When you enter the surname in the Surname field, the program knows very well 
that it's a surname.  They should all be entered in standard Initial Caps.

I'm surprised you're not getting flags for Potential Problems when you enter a 
surname in all uppercase - unless you have that option turned off.

You can go to Options  Customize  Data Format and set surnames to show in 
UPPERCASE.

When you create reports, click on the Report Options button then the Format tab 
and select Uppercase SURNAMES to show them that way in reports.

In web pages, the option is on the Formatting tab.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:06 AM, Jan Roberts poo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
 As I am producing reports for myself and other rellies (who couldn t care 
 less about, nor even know about the existence of,  standards ) I always 
 capitalise surnames   when I enter  data and when I type any sentence.  This 
 carries over to letters / emails I write in the course of my research.  My 
 reason?  I have numerous families who use past surnames as Christian names 
 and I like to make it clear that a particular name is a surname.  If I just 
 typed John Loring anywhere it could mean any one of possibly 100 men whose 
 first two Christian names are John Loring, with a variety of surnames, or 
 John, whose surname is Loring.  Besides, I do it as a matter of habit  - as a 
 teacher in a previous life I always wrote name lists in the form of Mary 
 BROWN, or sometimes BROWN, Mary.

 Cheers
 Jan






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Re: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Michelle,
If I remember correctly you can change to the german alphabet and discover 
where the extra characters are at.  Since I use the French (accents); 
Norwegian, Swedish, Danish vowels and the Spanish and German letters also, I 
had all added to the bottom of  a preset form to cut and paste from.



 From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:10 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Weird.  I tried it and I only got an empty box.  Ööö  Now it is working so it 
must have been operator error :)

michele

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gray [mailto:grayp...@telus.net]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 1:32 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Actually, using plain text doesn't prevent the use of special characters. 
ALT+0246 will display as ö

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com]
Sent: March-23-12 10:30 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Yup.  You can simply use the windows shortcuts for special characters.  For 
example, if you hold down the ALT button and type 0246 using the NUMBERS PAD on 
the right side of the keyboard, you will get a small case o with umlauts.  (I 
can't type it in here because I am using plain text).  I have them all 
memorized since I speak German and use it a lot.  There is also a Legacy way to 
do it. If you bring up the individual screen, on the left side you will see a 
vertical bar under the clipboard symbols that holds special characters which 
you can customize.   Left click on the bar and then you can add up to 8 special 
characters from the Windows character map.  Touse a special character all you 
have to do is click it and it will insert it into your text.


Michele



From: Barbara [mailto:bschwart...@twcny.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] umlauts - German letters

Is there a way to make German letters or use umlauts in our English reports?

Barb


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[LegacyUG] still can't use software

[lisagarrett2]

Hi everybody:I have been having serious problems with my Legacy 7.5 software for days now.I emailed Brian at customer support yesterday. I had asked him:"Jim at your customer support had me send him my family file on Monday. He said that I had to download Legacy again and restore a previousbackup. That my file was damaged and too large. I have tried and tried to uninstall and re-install, but I still have a damaged file."Brian's response was:"Just download and install the latest update on top of your existing version. Before you do delete the Legacy.exe file from the program folder. The install will then replace the program."I have done this and I get the following message:"Error reading Event detail.Error 3800: 'IDIROrder' is not an index in this table."Can anyone assist me? This is so frustrating!!Thank you,Lisa Garrett

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Re: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

[Bruce Jones]

Another way to think about it is, others can only see what is in the RIGHT
pane because only that data is at nFS.

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.comwrote:

 NO!  That isn't possible!  No one can see what is in  that left pane but
 YOU.  The only way others can see it is if you upload the info to nFS and
 the way you do that is you click on the little arrow thing to the left of
 the fact on your side (left) of the screen.  If you don't do that, no info
 transfers and no one else can see it.  If you DO click on the little arrow
 thing, then it will appear in the right pane.


 Michele


 -Original Message-
 From: mbstx [mailto:msz...@mindspring.com]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 5:25 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons

 Yes, it's the left pane I'm talking about.  There is a possible match in
 the right pane that has no children information.  My concern is that if the
 person who entered the info in the right pane looks for a match he/she will
 see the living people in what's my left pane.  Is that possible?  M

 -Original Message-
 From: Michele Lewis ancestor...@gmail.com
 Sent: Mar 23, 2012 12:04 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons
 
 If I am understanding you correctly, you are seeing the living people
 over in the right pane (the box that shows what is actually up on
 FamilySearch)?
 
 I tried this with my own file.  I always suppress living on my filter.  I
 selected my grandfather.  He still has 3 children living.  On the right
 pane I see all three of those living children.  I never added them).  So I
 went to New FamilySearch and to see.  Someone (not me) had added my three
 uncles that are still living and that is why they are showing up.  Other
 than sending an email to the person who submitted the info and ask them to
 remove it, there isn't much you can do.
 
 OR are you talking about the LEFT pane, which shows what is on your
 computer The living children DO show up here but you know they are living
 so don't add them to nFS.  Maybe that is what you are talking about?  No,
 it apparently does not suppress the living children of the dead ancestor.
 
 michele
 
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 From: Marianne Szabo [mailto:msz...@mindspring.com]
 Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 12:52 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] nFS treatment of Living persons
 
 Hi - I just tried nFS linking to it via my Legacy database.  In the
 filters, I selected Suppress living, which did eliminate living persons
 in the list.  BUT, one person in the list who comes up with a match has all
 of her children displayed, including those who are still living.  How do I
 prevent this information from displaying?
 
 Marianne
 
 
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Webinar glitch

[Mark Lang]

Jenny,

When I tutored IT, I had something similar that covered everything. Computers 
don't make mistakes, any errors occurred between the chair and the keyboard!

I think people put professionals on such a high pedestal, they don't think we 
can make mistakes as well. We may make less of them, but we still make them.

Kind Regards
Mark Lang

 -Original Message-
 From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
 Sent: Friday, 23 March 2012 11:45 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Webinar glitch


 Geoff Rasmussen wrote:
  I messed up this morning and removed the wrong recording. It's all back to
  normal now. Sorry 'bout that.
 

 You're forgiven, Geoff!

 When I was an IT tutor and did something in error I used to tell my
 students that I occasionally made a deliberate mistake because I didn't
 want them to be over-awed by my perfection!!




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Re: [LegacyUG] Do you add everyone with surname or just confirmed links?

[Tom Kemp]

Tami:
It really depends on your goals.

I document all people of my surname that lived in certain areas. For
example all Kemp families that lived in Ireland and for the surname:
Garcelon or Starbird - I save everyone of them that I can find.

Why? Like you say - I've found that sooner or later I will fit them in
to the family tree.

Now with the terrific online trees it is also easy to add them at
Ancestry, FamilySearch and other sites.
I like the idea that once I've planted and documented a family on
those sites the data will be available for years to come.

I tend to keep the linked family data on those two sites and of course
in my Legacy program too.

Tom

On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Tami P. tamitr...@comcast.net wrote:
 I’ve been working on my database for awhile now and have a question. How do
 you all decide to add to your databases? Do you add anyone with the surname
 your are searching or only those people with a confirmed link? Until now
 I’ve only been adding only those that I can confirm a link. However, lately
 I’m wondering if I’m overlooking a lot of potential links because they may
 be several generations previous to the one I’m currently searching. Just
 wondering how you all feel about this too. Thanks!




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