Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-08 Thread Karen and Jim
Doug,

This mark is called a diacritical mark.
Many languages which use the Roman alphabet
also use diacritical marks to show how the
word is pronounced and/or the word's meaning.

Google diacritic to find more info.

JimS

On 11/04/2013 08:34 PM, Douglas Tighe wrote:
 Can someone please explain the uses of this letter  . which quite
 often is used. I live in Australia and its not something we use, am I
 missing out on something.

 Cheers

 Doug Tighe





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Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-08 Thread Karen and Jim
Doug,

Don't believe this has nothing to do with Legacy.

If you need to enter a word having a diacritical mark,
then Legacy must be able to store and present it
properly.  That in turn means that your computer
must store and reproduce data with diacritical
marks.  I've had to make certain adjustments
with my operating systems (OS) to be able to enter
words with diacritical marks in Legacy.

I've seen failure to display such with some programs,
as Brian pointed out below.  I use diacritical marks
with Legacy and have experienced not problems
once I made necessary keyboard adjustments to my OS.

JimS


On 11/05/2013 10:28 PM, Douglas Tighe wrote:
 Thanks to all for the information I can now go back to Aussie talk
 knowing that these symbols really don't effect Legacy.
 Ron, I feel it did warrant explaining as it effects the UG forum and
 as you say not Legacy.

 Doug Tighe


 On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Ronald Bernier
 ronaldbern...@icloud.com mailto:ronaldbern...@icloud.com wrote:

 Bottom line - this has nothing at all to do with Legacy, so why is
 this subject being driven into the ground.

 Ron Bernier
 Woonsocket, RI
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot
 br...@the-lightfoots.com mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote:

 Yes, that is mostly true but I think that using HTML can send
 certain characters that cannot be directly represented in plain
 text. One of the biggest examples are the emoticons. If I send a
 smiley face in plain text, it consists of 3 separate characters
 (colon, hyphen, close parenthesis) but within HTML, those get
 re-interpreted by whatever characters set the user is using
 (Windows, Mac, etc) and is changed to one smiley face character
 usually from a special symbols typeface.  And another example is
 this: I will insert a “horizontal line” below this paragraph. You
 should see it because I am sending in HTML. If you attempt to
 reply to this message and switch to plain text, I think the
 horizontal line will disappear entirely.

 Horizontal line here:

 

 One character smiley face here: J

 Beyond that, I think the OP can rest easy about any weird
 characters showing up on messages in this forum. Usually one can
 determine what the original character was intended to be.

 Brian in CA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-08 Thread Ronald Bernier
JimS,
Try to read the original message carefully - the question asked was why the 
letters showed up in the LUG messages.  The question had absolutely nothing to 
do with Legacy.

Sent from my iPad

 On Nov 8, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Karen and Jim sindbe...@att.net wrote:

 Doug,

 Don't believe this has nothing to do with Legacy.

 If you need to enter a word having a diacritical mark,
 then Legacy must be able to store and present it
 properly.  That in turn means that your computer
 must store and reproduce data with diacritical
 marks.  I've had to make certain adjustments
 with my operating systems (OS) to be able to enter
 words with diacritical marks in Legacy.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-05 Thread Svein Åge Mathisen
it is a letter that you use in Norway Svein Åge items. Not AA that you use

Mvh
Svein Åge Mathisen
Sørbyveien 5b
3083 Holmestrand
+4799 00 5017

sveinaagemathi...@hotmail.com
p...@sveinaagemathisen.net
p...@gjallarhorn-blad.com
regns...@fotterapi.info
99005...@online.no

http://www.sveinaagemathisen.net
http://www.vestfoldslekthistorielag.com
http://www.gjallarhorn-blad.com
http://www.fotterapi.info
http://www.gladeføtter.com
http://www.big-foot.no
http://www.jarlsberghistorielag.com
http://www.vshlag.com



From: da...@schmeckabernathy.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:47:51 -0800

Where are you seeing the usage of this  ? Thanks,David C AbernathyEmail 
disclaimersThis
 message represents the official view of the voices in my 
head.http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com==
 All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus  == From: 
Douglas Tighe [mailto:littlehand...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG]    Can someone please explain the uses of this letter  
. which quite often is used. I live in Australia and its not something we use, 
am I missing out on something.CheersDoug Tighe

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Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-05 Thread Mike Fry
On 2013/11/05 19:28, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:

 Now you know why one of the rules for this board is that we should all be
 using PLAIN TEXT instead of sending in HTML which is probably the default
 setting for most users. We all forget to change the setting and as a
 consequence we have to learn to read though all those weird characters that
 may show up. Sort of like the weird characters that show up at your high
 school reunion --- just ignore them.

This is nothing to do with plain text or HTML, and everything to do with
character sets and encoding of characters within the emails.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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RE: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-05 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
Yes, that is mostly true but I think that using HTML can send certain 
characters that cannot be directly represented in plain text. One of the 
biggest examples are the emoticons. If I send a smiley face in plain text, it 
consists of 3 separate characters (colon, hyphen, close parenthesis) but within 
HTML, those get re-interpreted by whatever characters set the user is using 
(Windows, Mac, etc) and is changed to one smiley face character usually from a 
special symbols typeface.  And another example is this: I will insert a 
“horizontal line” below this paragraph. You should see it because I am sending 
in HTML. If you attempt to reply to this message and switch to plain text, I 
think the horizontal line will disappear entirely.



Horizontal line here:

  _



One character smiley face here: J



Beyond that, I think the OP can rest easy about any weird characters showing up 
on messages in this forum. Usually one can determine what the original 
character was intended to be.



Brian in CA





-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 1:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â



On 2013/11/05 19:28, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:



 Now you know why one of the rules for this board is that we should all

 be using PLAIN TEXT instead of sending in HTML which is probably the

 default setting for most users. We all forget to change the setting

 and as a consequence we have to learn to read though all those weird

 characters that may show up. Sort of like the weird characters that

 show up at your high school reunion --- just ignore them.



This is nothing to do with plain text or HTML, and everything to do with 
character sets and encoding of characters within the emails.



--

Regards,

Mike Fry

Johannesburg (g)








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Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-05 Thread Kathy Thompson
Ahh!  Now I know what the J is that I often see that appears to make no
sense in the context of the sentance - it's not a J is a smiley face!
I did see a full horizontal line though :) (colon + right parenthesis) :-)
(colon + hyphen + right parenthesis)


On 6 November 2013 11:27, Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.comwrote:

 Yes, that is mostly true but I think that using HTML can send certain
 characters that cannot be directly represented in plain text. One of the
 biggest examples are the emoticons. If I send a smiley face in plain
 text, it consists of 3 separate characters (colon, hyphen, close
 parenthesis) but within HTML, those get re-interpreted by whatever
 characters set the user is using (Windows, Mac, etc) and is changed to one
 smiley face character usually from a special symbols typeface.  And another
 example is this: I will insert a “horizontal line” below this paragraph.
 You should see it because I am sending in HTML. If you attempt to reply to
 this message and switch to plain text, I think the horizontal line will
 disappear entirely.



 Horizontal line here:
 --



 One character smiley face here: J



 Beyond that, I think the OP can rest easy about any weird characters
 showing up on messages in this forum. Usually one can determine what the
 original character was intended to be.



 Brian in CA





 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 1:58 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â



 On 2013/11/05 19:28, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:



  Now you know why one of the rules for this board is that we should all

  be using PLAIN TEXT instead of sending in HTML which is probably the

  default setting for most users. We all forget to change the setting

  and as a consequence we have to learn to read though all those weird

  characters that may show up. Sort of like the weird characters that

  show up at your high school reunion --- just ignore them.



 This is nothing to do with plain text or HTML, and everything to do with
 character sets and encoding of characters within the emails.



 --

 Regards,

 Mike Fry

 Johannesburg (g)






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Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-05 Thread Ronald Bernier
Bottom line - this has nothing at all to do with Legacy, so why is this subject 
being driven into the ground.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com 
 wrote:

 Yes, that is mostly true but I think that using HTML can send certain 
 characters that cannot be directly represented in plain text. One of the 
 biggest examples are the emoticons. If I send a smiley face in plain text, 
 it consists of 3 separate characters (colon, hyphen, close parenthesis) but 
 within HTML, those get re-interpreted by whatever characters set the user is 
 using (Windows, Mac, etc) and is changed to one smiley face character usually 
 from a special symbols typeface.  And another example is this: I will insert 
 a “horizontal line” below this paragraph. You should see it because I am 
 sending in HTML. If you attempt to reply to this message and switch to plain 
 text, I think the horizontal line will disappear entirely.

 Horizontal line here:

 One character smiley face here: J

 Beyond that, I think the OP can rest easy about any weird characters showing 
 up on messages in this forum. Usually one can determine what the original 
 character was intended to be.

 Brian in CA






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Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-05 Thread Douglas Tighe
Thanks to all for the information I can now go back to Aussie talk knowing
that these symbols really don't effect Legacy.
Ron, I feel it did warrant explaining as it effects the UG forum and as you
say not Legacy.

Doug Tighe


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Ronald Bernier ronaldbern...@icloud.comwrote:

 Bottom line - this has nothing at all to do with Legacy, so why is this
 subject being driven into the ground.

 Ron Bernier
 Woonsocket, RI
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com
 wrote:

 Yes, that is mostly true but I think that using HTML can send certain
 characters that cannot be directly represented in plain text. One of the
 biggest examples are the emoticons. If I send a smiley face in plain
 text, it consists of 3 separate characters (colon, hyphen, close
 parenthesis) but within HTML, those get re-interpreted by whatever
 characters set the user is using (Windows, Mac, etc) and is changed to one
 smiley face character usually from a special symbols typeface.  And another
 example is this: I will insert a “horizontal line” below this paragraph.
 You should see it because I am sending in HTML. If you attempt to reply to
 this message and switch to plain text, I think the horizontal line will
 disappear entirely.



 Horizontal line here:
 --



 One character smiley face here: J



 Beyond that, I think the OP can rest easy about any weird characters
 showing up on messages in this forum. Usually one can determine what the
 original character was intended to be.



 Brian in CA








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[LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-04 Thread Douglas Tighe
Can someone please explain the uses of this letter  . which quite often
is used. I live in Australia and its not something we use, am I missing out
on something.

Cheers

Doug Tighe



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RE: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-04 Thread Lee Bruch
There are different ways of setting up how a computer and/or email program 
reads and displays characters.  This, and many other strange characters, appear 
because of an incompatibility between email or computer settings on either 
your, the original poster’s, or one of the other posters settings. It is 
particularly a problem that occurs when the various computers are set up to 
work in various countries and various languages.



I correspond w/ people in various languages and from various countries and am 
on many mail lists from various countries; I’ve  have played around with many 
settings but have never found a setting that works with all (though some 
settings are better than others).



From: Douglas Tighe [mailto:littlehand...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â



Can someone please explain the uses of this letter  . which quite often is 
used. I live in Australia and its not something we use, am I missing out on 
something.

Cheers

Doug Tighe









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Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-04 Thread Wendy Howard
It's different computers interpreting text in different ways.

I have been forgetting lately to purposely set my replies to the LUG to
plain text  and have seen those funny A's in my replies when the list
copy comes through.  sigh

Have set this reply to plain text, so there shouldn't be any of them here.

Just ignore them as best you can.  They don't mean anything.  :-)

Wendy


Douglas Tighe said the following on 5/11/2013 2:34 p.m.:
 Can someone please explain the uses of this letter  . which quite
 often is used. I live in Australia and its not something we use, am I
 missing out on something.

 Cheers

 Doug Tighe



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RE: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-04 Thread Lee Bruch
PS to below

The web is full of discussions about these weird characters.  I’ve never seen a 
comprehensive discussion of this .. there are a wide variety of encoding 
issues: the  discussions I’ve found focus on a few each, but none very 
comprehensively.  So I’ve gotten used to “reading between the lines” when 
needed.

A few of the discussions are listed below – the first 2 particular to G-Mail:

http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/X4Df0tTvs7I


https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.support.thunderbird/vK33BnPhouc


http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office/forum/office_2007-outlook/strange-characterssymbols-in-returned-emails/be19f983-27cc-4d61-99d1-f94a372ef31c


http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook-help/turn-formatting-marks-on-or-off-HA010274555.aspx



http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-networking/strange-alphabet-characters-show-up-in-sent-and/3594fc53-097a-4add-b923-84db73315156





From: Lee Bruch [mailto:lbr...@nwlink.com]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:53 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â



There are different ways of setting up how a computer and/or email program 
reads and displays characters.  This, and many other strange characters, appear 
because of an incompatibility between email or computer settings on either 
your, the original poster’s, or one of the other posters settings. It is 
particularly a problem that occurs when the various computers are set up to 
work in various countries and various languages.



I correspond w/ people in various languages and from various countries and am 
on many mail lists from various countries; I’ve  have played around with many 
settings but have never found a setting that works with all (though some 
settings are better than others).



From: Douglas Tighe [mailto:littlehand...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â



Can someone please explain the uses of this letter  . which quite often is 
used. I live in Australia and its not something we use, am I missing out on 
something.

Cheers

Doug Tighe







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Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

2013-11-04 Thread Douglas Tighe
Hi David,

Your e-mail was one but yours is not the only one.

Thanks
Doug Tighe

Alan Wakenhut said the following on 5/11/2013 8:58 a.m.:

I can normally figure out computer problems but I am still stumped on
sharing Legacy using Dropbox.

Â

I have no problem sharing files with Dropbox, as I do this frequently with
my clients.  My problem is in working on Legacy with a cousin.  We want
to be able to work on the same file, without having to do frequent
mergers.  I realize that we will not be able to work on Legacy at the same
time.

Â

I can open the original file from Dropbox, as it is a .fdb file which
Legacy will open.  But when I save the file back to Dropbox it is saved as
a .zip file.   Using Windows 7, I can’t figure out how to open this
file.    How should I save the Legacy file in Dropbox?    Is it
possible to save the file as a .fdb instead of a .zip file?    Â

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Thank you,    Al


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:47 AM, David Abernathy da...@schmeckabernathy.com
 wrote:

 Where are you seeing the usage of this  ?



 Thanks,

 David C Abernathy

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 *From:* Douglas Tighe [mailto:littlehand...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Monday, November 04, 2013 5:35 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Â Â Â



 Can someone please explain the uses of this letter  . which quite often
 is used. I live in Australia and its not something we use, am I missing out
 on something.

 Cheers

 Doug Tighe



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