Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[William Boswell]

Support for Microsoft Office 2007 products ends this year and it will no
longer be supported according to what I read on Microsoft's website
yesterday.  There are a few updates offered, but after that there will be no
more security updates.  This could mean security issues especially when
using macros.  I don't know the exact date for Office 2007's End of Life as
they call it.

 

If you prefer to purchase Word 2010, beware of websites that offer it cheap
because many of them are selling bootleg product keys.  I was scammed last
year when I purchased Office 2010 from a company that I had purchased from
before without any problems.  They are now being investigated and I was left
with a bad product key.  Anything selling for under $100 is most likely
bootleg.  The product key I purchased checked out okay on Microsoft's
website, but it would not activate after installing the software.  There is
a place on their website for checking product keys and obviously it isn't
working.

 

I just thought I would mention this even though it is off topic.  

 

Bill Boswell

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Ian Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:46 PM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

 

Microsoft Word is certainly capable. 

Reminder: it is 2017. I would hope most people use Office 2010 or later, or
Office 365. As I recall my experiences with it, Microsoft Word 2007 had some
frustrating bugs that affected production of well-formatted documents (I did
many, for scientific / geological publication). 

 

The suggestion to watch the available webinars is in my view the first step.


 

Also, for the benefit of others (not just the original post), "for ever"
Microsoft Word has supported using linked pictures (and other objects) that
can stay on your computer disk in a single location (not copied multiple
times elsewhere), and of course the pictures themselves can be resized (and
the text arranged accordingly - this definitely requires experience to work
as you need it). 

 

Caveat: having a capable computer - adequate RAM (memory), disk space,
perhaps bought less than 5 years ago? - certainly helps for linked pictures,
and also for linked separate documents. 

 

For technical publications, and even now for casual documents and even
emails (in Outlook), I use tables in Microsoft Word to accurately guide my
layout. It is very much easier than getting to grips with other very capable
features of Word, even styles. In my opinion, getting up to speed with word
processing styles is not the satisfying way for a person relatively new to
producing a good-looking document or publication. 

 

But this is an email list more about the Legacy FT software, so I will leave
it at that. 

 

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[johnbernacki1]

I am very grateful to everybody who shared their knowledge and experience. It 
all helped me to have better sense of the way Legacy and MS Word interact. I 
will keep all the replies for future reference. I now feel reassured that Word 
has the capacity to handle very large books with high resolution images. 
Therefore it would be safe to stick with Word and experimentation would not be 
a waste of time.

As suggested by Cathy, I watched the webinar on Word by Thomas MacEntee. I had 
seen it before but absorbed much on my second viewing. It contained a very 
valuable tip- each New Section within a document can have completely different 
or independent formatting. Each section is essentially a separate document but 
joined to others. I think that if I insert a Section Break at the top and 
bottom of each page on which I have grouped pictures, it will ensure that any 
formatting is contained and will not play havoc with endnotes etc. I hope to 
find time within the next few days to experiment with this. As Anna suggested, 
I had already planned to place grouped images (especially large ones) at the 
end of each chapter- hopefully this would also avoid any possible problems or 
confusion.

John


From: Ana 
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 11:43 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

I have been publishing books for decades, using all MS Word versions, before 
that a whole lot of typing. I have done genealogies & transcriptions of census, 
marriage bonds.



Use Google & you will find all kinds of free tips, tricks & instructions for MS 
Word 7, which has powerful indexing capabilities, great spell check, search & 
replace, easy to insert pages or objects.  YouTube has lots of tutorials,  
Microsoft.co m has oodles of help.  

Think back to high school/college & start with an outline or table of contents. 
 MS Word is just a fancy-dancy typewriter. Save often & make & work on copies 
and/or versions.  Try to get all your text finished.  Then start with your 
inserts & pictures.


For genealogies I usually make each generation a separate chapter (insert page 
break).  I create an rtf report from Legacy & then do all the editing in MS 
Word.  

In my opinion, sentences in Legacy are stilted & often redundant.   But Legacy 
produces the very best reports of any software out there.  Test drive several 
of them & then decide the one you like.   

Sorry, Legacy - but in my humble opinion, Legacy Publishing Center is 
complicated & a whole lot of unnecessary work.  


I print pictures or drawings, on photo-paper to insert into my master copy.  I 
group objects - before or after - each pertinent chapter, rather than within 
each chapter. 

However, there are so many different ways of handling pictures, objects.  Try 
out a few.  Within Word - so many options, size, placement, borders -



Before you start, you should decide how you are going to publish - a bound 
book, printed pages with holes to put in a binder or an ebook & so on.


A bound book has many limitations & restrictions, if that is the choice, work 
with your publisher before starting.


Pages for a binder - search around for deals on paper.  I would suggest at 
least a 28 pound (I like brilliant or bright white) & already punched holes.  
Pictures, maps & text, look so much better on heavy paper. 





On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 12:14 AM, <johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au> wrote:

  I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG mentioned 
limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a book, and suggested 
another word processing program (possibly an open-source one). I do not 
remember the original question put the LUG, or the alternative word processing 
program.

  My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing printed books 
in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing program would they 
suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things on computers, so try to 
foresee and prevent problems, rather than sorting out messes later on.

  I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted where 
Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing Center. In 
them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc. Could large file sizes 
cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small clipboard or memory which does 
not handle rearranging chapters or pages with high resolution images?

  I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an RTF file, 
it would be compatible with any word processing program.

  When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a PDF file 
before printing.

  John


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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Ana]

I have been publishing books for decades, using all MS Word versions,
before that a whole lot of typing. I have done genealogies & transcriptions
of census, marriage bonds.


Use Google & you will find all kinds of free tips, tricks & instructions
for MS Word 7, which has powerful indexing capabilities, great spell check,
search & replace, easy to insert pages or objects.  YouTube has lots of
tutorials,  Microsoft.co m has oodles of help.

Think back to high school/college & start with an outline or table of
contents.  MS Word is just a fancy-dancy typewriter. *Save often & make &
work on copies and/or versions.  *Try to get all your text finished.  Then
start with your inserts & pictures

*.*
For genealogies I usually make each generation a separate chapter *(insert
page break)*.  I create an rtf report from Legacy & then do all the editing
in MS Word.

In my opinion, sentences in Legacy are stilted & often redundant.   But
Legacy produces the very *best reports* of any software out there.  Test
drive several of them & then decide the one you like.

Sorry, Legacy - but in my humble opinion, Legacy Publishing Center is
complicated & a whole lot of unnecessary work.

I print pictures or drawings, on photo-paper to insert into my master
copy.  I group objects - before or after - each pertinent chapter, rather
than within each chapter.

However, there are so many different ways of handling pictures, objects.
Try out a few.  Within Word - so many options, size, placement, borders -

Before you start, you should decide how you are going to publish - a bound
book, printed pages with holes to put in a binder or an ebook & so on.

A bound book has many limitations & restrictions, if that is the choice,
work with your publisher before starting.

Pages for a binder - search around for deals on paper.  I would suggest at
least a 28 pound (I like brilliant or bright white) & already punched
holes.  Pictures, maps & text, look so much better on heavy paper.



On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 12:14 AM,  wrote:

> I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG mentioned
> limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a book, and suggested
> another word processing program (possibly an open-source one). I do not
> remember the original question put the LUG, or the alternative word
> processing program.
>
> My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing printed
> books in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing program would
> they suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things on computers, so try
> to foresee and prevent problems, rather than sorting out messes later on.
>
> I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted
> where Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing
> Center. In them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc. Could
> large file sizes cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small clipboard or
> memory which does not handle rearranging chapters or pages with high
> resolution images?
>
> I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an RTF
> file, it would be compatible with any word processing program.
>
> When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a PDF
> file before printing.
>
> John
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Pete Beatty]

CE,

The is NO commercial word processor that is going to convert any document
from another other company with 100% accuracy.

An example of this is vendor A uses a 8 character name for a paragraph style
and that document is saved as a DOC/RTF/PDF file.  You open your word
processor and then open the saved document.  Your word processor attempts to
convert the document to its own format.  In the process it discovers an
odd/unknown style name; so, it creates a new style that allows the data to
be imported EXACTLY as it is defined.

It is your responsibility to make any necessary corrections, not the Word
Processor.

 

Your issue with renumbering, IS NOT an MSWord issue, it is a difference in
how that data is recorded by Legacy.  It is not an issue with Legacy, it is
doing what it was designed to do.

 

Whatever word processor you are going to use:

Learn how the processor uses style sheets.  

Learn how to modify the style sheets.

Learn how to make changes to suite your style.

Learn how to redefine a paragraph, such as keeping two paragraphs together.

 

If you do not know how to work with Style sheets, you are not really using
the word processor and you will always have the same formatting issues.

 

Your issue with numbers changing is cause because you do not understand the
style sheet and its strengths.  Repositioning or moving an image can cause a
renumbering;  However, if you have properly defined your style, it becomes
an automatic process.

 

Learn the Find/Replace function in MSWord.  It works on a lot of things
other than words or characters.

 

My parting Comment.

You appear to be constantly running Legacy reports and then importing them
into MSWord.  I suggest that instead of replacing your MSWord document, cut
and paste ONLY those portions that have been changed.

 

Pete

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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Ms Mary K. Lund via LegacyUserGroup]

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If you use the Insert>endnotes feature in your Word, OpenOffice, or LibreOffice 
program, they will AUTOMATICALLY be created and re-ordered if necessary! It is 
marvelous!
Mary K. Lund

  From: CE WOOD <wood...@msn.com>
 To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 9:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
   
#yiv8689406190 #yiv8689406190 -- P 
{margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv8689406190 Okay, I DO use endnotes; I mis 
typed.
The problem is, that when you need to change the placement of photos because of 
horrendous placement using RTF, you DO have to renumber ALL succeeding 
endnotes. There is no way around that. Legacy produces all photos in one size. 
Depending on the resolution of the photo and how much detail is needed, photos 
may need to be resized.
Even more difficult is having the pages of your book or report not have 
enormous amounts of blank space. Moving some photos to the next page and moving 
other photos to the previous page is often the only solution. THAT is where the 
endnote numbering becomes a total mess. Remember, you do have descriptions and 
event details to fit on the same page!
Half or more of blank space is because the next photo is very large, or because 
the descriptions, event details, and photos fit just right on one page, but are 
terrible when spread over several. That is important when you are creating a 
report or book.

There is absolutely NO WAY around renumbering endnotes when you are trying to 
create a "good-looking" report or a book for publishing. But then, maybe not 
everyone cares how it looks.


CE

From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 7:12 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book CE

Use endnotes with RTF - I don't think there is the choice to use 
footnotes anyway.
And you won't have the problem.
Yes the pictures embedded in an RTF are all over the place. On 
reflection I'm not sure how much that matters as the reason to go via 
RTF is to be able to make thorough revisions and add more pictures and 
have pictures at different sizes etc.

Indexes and Tables of Content are generated after you've finished 
editing so that their page numbers are right.

Cathy

> CE WOOD <mailto:wood...@msn.com>
> Thursday, 9 February 2017 10:14 AM
>
> One major problem with producing a book with Word is pictures. The 
> easiest way to input data into Word is by creating an HTML file and 
> copying that into Word. Whwther you do that, create a PDF and copy in, 
> or and RTF file, the footnotes are the REAL problem.
>
>
> The problem is, that pictures are not always the right size or 
> placement in the document. Changing their placement ruins the 
> footnotes! Then, you have to go through the whole document and 
> renumber the footnotes, which can take weeks, if you have nothing else 
> to do.
>
>
> Huge blank spaces in your book are not usually what you want. Photos 
> on separate pages are not always what you want. A simple one person 
> report on an architect involved 1500 footnote sources for just the photos!
>
>
> I know Legacy is not a publishing program, but producing an acceptable 
> document/book/report with appropriately sized photos in the best 
> placement is a daunting task!
>
>
> It has nothing to do with my system, which is better than those of 
> most computer experts.
>
>
>
> CE
>
> 
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on 
> behalf of Brian Lightfoot <br...@the-lightfoots.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 5:45 PM
> *To:* 'Legacy User Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
>
> I suspect that the reason many people have had problems with creating 
> Book from Legacy using MSWord is that they are using it on a computer 
> system with only minimal RAM and processing speed. Couple that with a 
> Windows swapfile that exists on an older and slower hard disk drive is 
> a sure-fire recipe for long waits for a simple edit or a system crash.
>
> The idea of creating separate chapters and editing them o

Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Steve Hayes]

On 9 Feb 2017 at 5:19, CE WOOD wrote:

> Sorry, You DO have to renumber when you move photos to a different position.
> When you position them differently, the endnote numbering changes. If you
> leave them in the same position relative to other photos and events, you do
> not. THAT is the problem. To make pages look okay, you DO have to reposition,
> which is when the problem occurs.

Are you talking about Endnot/Footnote numbering, or photo caption/table 
numbering?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[CE WOOD]

Sorry, You DO have to renumber when you move photos to a different position. 
When you position them differently, the endnote numbering changes. If you leave 
them in the same position relative to other photos and events, you do not. THAT 
is the problem. To make pages look okay, you DO have to reposition, which is 
when the problem occurs.


CE

From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 8:14 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

CE,

If you create to RTF you do not have to renumber endnotes when adding or
changing pictures.

I just tried it.

I don't think you are using RTF. Legacy certainly doesn't produce all
the pictures in one size in an RTF.

It's not so easy to add more footnotes in the same format, but I suspect
that's also possible.

Cathy
> CE WOOD <mailto:wood...@msn.com>
> Thursday, 9 February 2017 11:44 AM
>
> Okay, I DO use endnotes; I mis typed.
>
>
> The problem is, that when you need to change the placement of photos
> because of horrendous placement using RTF, you DO have to renumber ALL
> succeeding endnotes. There is no way around that. Legacy produces all
> photos in one size. Depending on the resolution of the photo and how
> much detail is needed, photos may need to be resized.
>
>
> Even more difficult is having the pages of your book or report not
> have enormous amounts of blank space. Moving some photos to the next
> page and moving other photos to the previous page is often the only
> solution. THAT is where the endnote numbering becomes a total mess.
> Remember, you do have descriptions and event details to fit on the
> same page!
>
>
> Half or more of blank space is because the next photo is very large,
> or because the descriptions, event details, and photos fit just right
> on one page, but are terrible when spread over several. That is
> important when you are creating a report or book.
>
>
> There is absolutely NO WAY around renumbering endnotes when you are
> trying to create a "good-looking" report or a book for publishing. But
> then, maybe not everyone cares how it looks.
>
>
>
> CE
>
> 
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on
> behalf of Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 7:12 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
> CE
>
> Use endnotes with RTF - I don't think there is the choice to use
> footnotes anyway.
> And you won't have the problem.
> Yes the pictures embedded in an RTF are all over the place. On
> reflection I'm not sure how much that matters as the reason to go via
> RTF is to be able to make thorough revisions and add more pictures and
> have pictures at different sizes etc.
>
> Indexes and Tables of Content are generated after you've finished
> editing so that their page numbers are right.
>
> Cathy
>
> > CE WOOD <mailto:wood...@msn.com>
> > Thursday, 9 February 2017 10:14 AM
> >
> > One major problem with producing a book with Word is pictures. The
> > easiest way to input data into Word is by creating an HTML file and
> > copying that into Word. Whwther you do that, create a PDF and copy in,
> > or and RTF file, the footnotes are the REAL problem.
> >
> >
> > The problem is, that pictures are not always the right size or
> > placement in the document. Changing their placement ruins the
> > footnotes! Then, you have to go through the whole document and
> > renumber the footnotes, which can take weeks, if you have nothing else
> > to do.
> >
> >
> > Huge blank spaces in your book are not usually what you want. Photos
> > on separate pages are not always what you want. A simple one person
> > report on an architect involved 1500 footnote sources for just the
> photos!
> >
> >
> > I know Legacy is not a publishing program, but producing an acceptable
> > document/book/report with appropriately sized photos in the best
> > placement is a daunting task!
> >
> >
> > It has nothing to do with my system, which is better than those of
> > most computer experts.
> >
> >
> >
> > CE
> >
> > 
> > *From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on
> > behalf of Brian Lightfoot <br...@the-lightfoots.com>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 5:45 PM
> > *To:* 'Legacy User Group'
&

Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Cathy Pinner]

CE,

If you create to RTF you do not have to renumber endnotes when adding or 
changing pictures.


I just tried it.

I don't think you are using RTF. Legacy certainly doesn't produce all 
the pictures in one size in an RTF.


It's not so easy to add more footnotes in the same format, but I suspect 
that's also possible.


Cathy

CE WOOD <mailto:wood...@msn.com>
Thursday, 9 February 2017 11:44 AM

Okay, I DO use endnotes; I mis typed.


The problem is, that when you need to change the placement of photos 
because of horrendous placement using RTF, you DO have to renumber ALL 
succeeding endnotes. There is no way around that. Legacy produces all 
photos in one size. Depending on the resolution of the photo and how 
much detail is needed, photos may need to be resized.



Even more difficult is having the pages of your book or report not 
have enormous amounts of blank space. Moving some photos to the next 
page and moving other photos to the previous page is often the only 
solution. THAT is where the endnote numbering becomes a total mess. 
Remember, you do have descriptions and event details to fit on the 
same page!



Half or more of blank space is because the next photo is very large, 
or because the descriptions, event details, and photos fit just right 
on one page, but are terrible when spread over several. That is 
important when you are creating a report or book.



There is absolutely NO WAY around renumbering endnotes when you are 
trying to create a "good-looking" report or a book for publishing. But 
then, maybe not everyone cares how it looks.




CE


*From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on 
behalf of Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>

*Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 7:12 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
CE

Use endnotes with RTF - I don't think there is the choice to use
footnotes anyway.
And you won't have the problem.
Yes the pictures embedded in an RTF are all over the place. On
reflection I'm not sure how much that matters as the reason to go via
RTF is to be able to make thorough revisions and add more pictures and
have pictures at different sizes etc.

Indexes and Tables of Content are generated after you've finished
editing so that their page numbers are right.

Cathy

> CE WOOD <mailto:wood...@msn.com>
> Thursday, 9 February 2017 10:14 AM
>
> One major problem with producing a book with Word is pictures. The
> easiest way to input data into Word is by creating an HTML file and
> copying that into Word. Whwther you do that, create a PDF and copy in,
> or and RTF file, the footnotes are the REAL problem.
>
>
> The problem is, that pictures are not always the right size or
> placement in the document. Changing their placement ruins the
> footnotes! Then, you have to go through the whole document and
> renumber the footnotes, which can take weeks, if you have nothing else
> to do.
>
>
> Huge blank spaces in your book are not usually what you want. Photos
> on separate pages are not always what you want. A simple one person
> report on an architect involved 1500 footnote sources for just the 
photos!

>
>
> I know Legacy is not a publishing program, but producing an acceptable
> document/book/report with appropriately sized photos in the best
> placement is a daunting task!
>
>
> It has nothing to do with my system, which is better than those of
> most computer experts.
>
>
>
> CE
>
> 
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on
> behalf of Brian Lightfoot <br...@the-lightfoots.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 5:45 PM
> *To:* 'Legacy User Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
>
> I suspect that the reason many people have had problems with creating
> Book from Legacy using MSWord is that they are using it on a computer
> system with only minimal RAM and processing speed. Couple that with a
> Windows swapfile that exists on an older and slower hard disk drive is
> a sure-fire recipe for long waits for a simple edit or a system crash.
>
> The idea of creating separate chapters and editing them one at a time
> is a great idea that will take a lot of the burden off the limited
> resource system.
>
> Brian in CA
>
> *From:*LegacyUserGroup
> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Carol
> Boswell
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 12:50 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
>
> I had problems with a 125 page book using Word 2007.  It was an
> editing nightmare.  I've used Word for ye

Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Steve Hayes]

On 9 Feb 2017 at 2:14, CE WOOD wrote:

> The problem is, that pictures are not always the right size or placement
> in the document. Changing their placement ruins the footnotes! Then, you
> have to go through the whole document and renumber the footnotes, which
> can take weeks, if you have nothing else to do.

Why?

Does Legacy export footnotes to RTF as plain text and bnot as footnotes?

Footnotes in Word should move with the text they are attached to, and if you 
have properly imported an RFT file there sdhould be no problem. 

 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[CE WOOD]

Okay, I DO use endnotes; I mis typed.


The problem is, that when you need to change the placement of photos because of 
horrendous placement using RTF, you DO have to renumber ALL succeeding 
endnotes. There is no way around that. Legacy produces all photos in one size. 
Depending on the resolution of the photo and how much detail is needed, photos 
may need to be resized.


Even more difficult is having the pages of your book or report not have 
enormous amounts of blank space. Moving some photos to the next page and moving 
other photos to the previous page is often the only solution. THAT is where the 
endnote numbering becomes a total mess. Remember, you do have descriptions and 
event details to fit on the same page!


Half or more of blank space is because the next photo is very large, or because 
the descriptions, event details, and photos fit just right on one page, but are 
terrible when spread over several. That is important when you are creating a 
report or book.


There is absolutely NO WAY around renumbering endnotes when you are trying to 
create a "good-looking" report or a book for publishing. But then, maybe not 
everyone cares how it looks.


CE


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Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 7:12 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

CE

Use endnotes with RTF - I don't think there is the choice to use
footnotes anyway.
And you won't have the problem.
Yes the pictures embedded in an RTF are all over the place. On
reflection I'm not sure how much that matters as the reason to go via
RTF is to be able to make thorough revisions and add more pictures and
have pictures at different sizes etc.

Indexes and Tables of Content are generated after you've finished
editing so that their page numbers are right.

Cathy

> CE WOOD <mailto:wood...@msn.com>
> Thursday, 9 February 2017 10:14 AM
>
> One major problem with producing a book with Word is pictures. The
> easiest way to input data into Word is by creating an HTML file and
> copying that into Word. Whwther you do that, create a PDF and copy in,
> or and RTF file, the footnotes are the REAL problem.
>
>
> The problem is, that pictures are not always the right size or
> placement in the document. Changing their placement ruins the
> footnotes! Then, you have to go through the whole document and
> renumber the footnotes, which can take weeks, if you have nothing else
> to do.
>
>
> Huge blank spaces in your book are not usually what you want. Photos
> on separate pages are not always what you want. A simple one person
> report on an architect involved 1500 footnote sources for just the photos!
>
>
> I know Legacy is not a publishing program, but producing an acceptable
> document/book/report with appropriately sized photos in the best
> placement is a daunting task!
>
>
> It has nothing to do with my system, which is better than those of
> most computer experts.
>
>
>
> CE
>
> 
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on
> behalf of Brian Lightfoot <br...@the-lightfoots.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 5:45 PM
> *To:* 'Legacy User Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
>
> I suspect that the reason many people have had problems with creating
> Book from Legacy using MSWord is that they are using it on a computer
> system with only minimal RAM and processing speed. Couple that with a
> Windows swapfile that exists on an older and slower hard disk drive is
> a sure-fire recipe for long waits for a simple edit or a system crash.
>
> The idea of creating separate chapters and editing them one at a time
> is a great idea that will take a lot of the burden off the limited
> resource system.
>
> Brian in CA
>
> *From:*LegacyUserGroup
> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Carol
> Boswell
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 12:50 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
>
> I had problems with a 125 page book using Word 2007.  It was an
> editing nightmare.  I've used Word for years and recommend perhaps
> saving in chapters in separate files.  That way a correction on page
> 87 won't change words/pictures or placement on page 50.  You could
> call BYU Print and Mail at 801 422-0432 and ask this question.
>
> Carol Boswell
>
> 
>
> *From:*LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
> <mailto:legacyusergroup-boun

Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Cathy Pinner]

CE

Use endnotes with RTF - I don't think there is the choice to use 
footnotes anyway.

And you won't have the problem.
Yes the pictures embedded in an RTF are all over the place. On 
reflection I'm not sure how much that matters as the reason to go via 
RTF is to be able to make thorough revisions and add more pictures and 
have pictures at different sizes etc.


Indexes and Tables of Content are generated after you've finished 
editing so that their page numbers are right.


Cathy


CE WOOD <mailto:wood...@msn.com>
Thursday, 9 February 2017 10:14 AM

One major problem with producing a book with Word is pictures. The 
easiest way to input data into Word is by creating an HTML file and 
copying that into Word. Whwther you do that, create a PDF and copy in, 
or and RTF file, the footnotes are the REAL problem.



The problem is, that pictures are not always the right size or 
placement in the document. Changing their placement ruins the 
footnotes! Then, you have to go through the whole document and 
renumber the footnotes, which can take weeks, if you have nothing else 
to do.



Huge blank spaces in your book are not usually what you want. Photos 
on separate pages are not always what you want. A simple one person 
report on an architect involved 1500 footnote sources for just the photos!



I know Legacy is not a publishing program, but producing an acceptable 
document/book/report with appropriately sized photos in the best 
placement is a daunting task!



It has nothing to do with my system, which is better than those of 
most computer experts.




CE


*From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on 
behalf of Brian Lightfoot <br...@the-lightfoots.com>

*Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 5:45 PM
*To:* 'Legacy User Group'
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

I suspect that the reason many people have had problems with creating 
Book from Legacy using MSWord is that they are using it on a computer 
system with only minimal RAM and processing speed. Couple that with a 
Windows swapfile that exists on an older and slower hard disk drive is 
a sure-fire recipe for long waits for a simple edit or a system crash.


The idea of creating separate chapters and editing them one at a time 
is a great idea that will take a lot of the burden off the limited 
resource system.


Brian in CA

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Carol 
Boswell

*Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 12:50 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

I had problems with a 125 page book using Word 2007.  It was an 
editing nightmare.  I've used Word for years and recommend perhaps 
saving in chapters in separate files.  That way a correction on page 
87 won't change words/pictures or placement on page 50.  You could 
call BYU Print and Mail at 801 422-0432 and ask this question.


Carol Boswell



*From:*LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>> on behalf of 
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au <mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au> 
<johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au <mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>>

*Sent:* Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:14 PM
*To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>

*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG 
mentioned limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a 
book, and suggested another word processing program (possibly an 
open-source one). I do not remember the original question put the LUG, 
or the alternative word processing program.


My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing 
printed books in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing 
program would they suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things 
on computers, so try to foresee and prevent problems, rather than 
sorting out messes later on.


I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted 
where Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing 
Center. In them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc. 
Could large file sizes cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small 
clipboard or memory which does not handle rearranging chapters or 
pages with high resolution images?


I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an 
RTF file, it would be compatible with any word processing program.


When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a 
PDF file before printing.


John

Carol Boswell <mailto:rsca...@hotmail.com>
Thursday, 9 February 2017 4:50 AM

I had problems with a 125 page book using Word 20

Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Ian Thomas]

Microsoft Word is certainly capable.
Reminder: it is 2017. I would hope most people use Office 2010 or later, or 
Office 365. As I recall my experiences with it, Microsoft Word 2007 had some 
frustrating bugs that affected production of well-formatted documents (I did 
many, for scientific / geological publication).

The suggestion to watch the available webinars is in my view the first step.

Also, for the benefit of others (not just the original post), "for ever" 
Microsoft Word has supported using linked pictures (and other objects) that can 
stay on your computer disk in a single location (not copied multiple times 
elsewhere), and of course the pictures themselves can be resized (and the text 
arranged accordingly - this definitely requires experience to work as you need 
it).

Caveat: having a capable computer - adequate RAM (memory), disk space, perhaps 
bought less than 5 years ago? - certainly helps for linked pictures, and also 
for linked separate documents.

For technical publications, and even now for casual documents and even emails 
(in Outlook), I use tables in Microsoft Word to accurately guide my layout. It 
is very much easier than getting to grips with other very capable features of 
Word, even styles. In my opinion, getting up to speed with word processing 
styles is not the satisfying way for a person relatively new to producing a 
good-looking document or publication.

But this is an email list more about the Legacy FT software, so I will leave it 
at that.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[CE WOOD]

One major problem with producing a book with Word is pictures. The easiest way 
to input data into Word is by creating an HTML file and copying that into Word. 
Whwther you do that, create a PDF and copy in, or and RTF file, the footnotes 
are the REAL problem.


The problem is, that pictures are not always the right size or placement in the 
document. Changing their placement ruins the footnotes! Then, you have to go 
through the whole document and renumber the footnotes, which can take weeks, if 
you have nothing else to do.


Huge blank spaces in your book are not usually what you want. Photos on 
separate pages are not always what you want. A simple one person report on an 
architect involved 1500 footnote sources for just the photos!


I know Legacy is not a publishing program, but producing an acceptable 
document/book/report with appropriately sized photos in the best placement is a 
daunting task!


It has nothing to do with my system, which is better than those of most 
computer experts.



CE


From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
Brian Lightfoot <br...@the-lightfoots.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 5:45 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book


I suspect that the reason many people have had problems with creating Book from 
Legacy using MSWord is that they are using it on a computer system with only 
minimal RAM and processing speed. Couple that with a Windows swapfile that 
exists on an older and slower hard disk drive is a sure-fire recipe for long 
waits for a simple edit or a system crash.



The idea of creating separate chapters and editing them one at a time is a 
great idea that will take a lot of the burden off the limited resource system.





Brian in CA





From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Carol Boswell
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 12:50 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book



I had problems with a 125 page book using Word 2007.  It was an editing 
nightmare.  I've used Word for years and recommend perhaps saving in chapters 
in separate files.  That way a correction on page 87 won't change 
words/pictures or placement on page 50.  You could call BYU Print and Mail at 
801 422-0432 and ask this question.



Carol Boswell





From: LegacyUserGroup 
<legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>>
 on behalf of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au<mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au> 
<johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au<mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:14 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com<mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book



I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG mentioned 
limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a book, and suggested 
another word processing program (possibly an open-source one). I do not 
remember the original question put the LUG, or the alternative word processing 
program.

My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing printed books 
in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing program would they 
suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things on computers, so try to 
foresee and prevent problems, rather than sorting out messes later on.

I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted where 
Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing Center. In 
them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc. Could large file sizes 
cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small clipboard or memory which does 
not handle rearranging chapters or pages with high resolution images?

I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an RTF file, 
it would be compatible with any word processing program.

When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a PDF file 
before printing.

John
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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Cathy Pinner]

Carol,

It sounds as if you haven't learnt to use all the features in Word which 
would stop those sorts of things happening.
Consider watching the webinars on Word. The first one I think briefly 
mentions the use of sections etc. You need a webinar subscription to 
watch the others.


Cathy


Carol Boswell <mailto:rsca...@hotmail.com>
Thursday, 9 February 2017 4:50 AM

I had problems with a 125 page book using Word 2007.  It was an 
editing nightmare.  I've used Word for years and recommend perhaps 
saving in chapters in separate files.  That way a correction on page 
87 won't change words/pictures or placement on page 50.  You could 
call BYU Print and Mail at 801 422-0432 and ask this question.



Carol Boswell




*From:* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on 
behalf of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au <johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>

*Sent:* Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:14 PM
*To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG 
mentioned limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a 
book, and suggested another word processing program (possibly an 
open-source one). I do not remember the original question put the LUG, 
or the alternative word processing program.


My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing 
printed books in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing 
program would they suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things 
on computers, so try to foresee and prevent problems, rather than 
sorting out messes later on.


I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted 
where Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing 
Center. In them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc. 
Could large file sizes cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small 
clipboard or memory which does not handle rearranging chapters or 
pages with high resolution images?


I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an 
RTF file, it would be compatible with any word processing program.


When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a 
PDF file before printing.


John

johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au <mailto:johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>
Wednesday, 8 February 2017 1:14 PM

I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG 
mentioned limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a 
book, and suggested another word processing program (possibly an 
open-source one). I do not remember the original question put the LUG, 
or the alternative word processing program.


My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing 
printed books in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing 
program would they suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things 
on computers, so try to foresee and prevent problems, rather than 
sorting out messes later on.


I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted 
where Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing 
Center. In them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc. 
Could large file sizes cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small 
clipboard or memory which does not handle rearranging chapters or 
pages with high resolution images?


I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an 
RTF file, it would be compatible with any word processing program.


When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a 
PDF file before printing.


John




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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Brian Lightfoot]

I suspect that the reason many people have had problems with creating Book
from Legacy using MSWord is that they are using it on a computer system with
only minimal RAM and processing speed. Couple that with a Windows swapfile
that exists on an older and slower hard disk drive is a sure-fire recipe for
long waits for a simple edit or a system crash.

 

The idea of creating separate chapters and editing them one at a time is a
great idea that will take a lot of the burden off the limited resource
system.

 

 

Brian in CA

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Carol Boswell
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 12:50 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

 

I had problems with a 125 page book using Word 2007.  It was an editing
nightmare.  I've used Word for years and recommend perhaps saving in
chapters in separate files.  That way a correction on page 87 won't change
words/pictures or placement on page 50.  You could call BYU Print and Mail
at 801 422-0432 and ask this question.

 

Carol Boswell

 

  _  

From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au <johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:14 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book 

 

I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG mentioned
limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a book, and suggested
another word processing program (possibly an open-source one). I do not
remember the original question put the LUG, or the alternative word
processing program.

My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing printed
books in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing program would
they suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things on computers, so try
to foresee and prevent problems, rather than sorting out messes later on.

I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted where
Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing Center. In
them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc. Could large file
sizes cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small clipboard or memory
which does not handle rearranging chapters or pages with high resolution
images?

I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an RTF
file, it would be compatible with any word processing program.

When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a PDF file
before printing.

John

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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Carol Boswell]

I had problems with a 125 page book using Word 2007.  It was an editing 
nightmare.  I've used Word for years and recommend perhaps saving in chapters 
in separate files.  That way a correction on page 87 won't change 
words/pictures or placement on page 50.  You could call BYU Print and Mail at 
801 422-0432 and ask this question.


Carol Boswell



From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au <johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:14 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG mentioned 
limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a book, and suggested 
another word processing program (possibly an open-source one). I do not 
remember the original question put the LUG, or the alternative word processing 
program.
My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing printed books 
in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing program would they 
suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things on computers, so try to 
foresee and prevent problems, rather than sorting out messes later on.
I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted where 
Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing Center. In 
them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc. Could large file sizes 
cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small clipboard or memory which does 
not handle rearranging chapters or pages with high resolution images?
I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an RTF file, 
it would be compatible with any word processing program.
When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a PDF file 
before printing.
John
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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Grandma Deb]

Pete, I agree with you that WORD should have no troubles with large images.

John, most questions about WORD can be solved with a quick Google search.

But I have to disagree with 150dpi being enough. If you publish the book in
a photobook form, you will want 300dpi at least.

But John, your hi-res maps and images should be easily handled by WORD; as
Pete pointed out, WORD is a workhorse.

If you have specific questions about WORD, feel free to message me.

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Pete Beatty <pete.bea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would love to know what the problems, considering that MS Word is a
> corporate level word processor and has been used to produce documents with
> over 1000 pages of text, graphics and pictures.
>
>
>
> I have not come across a document that could not be produced in MS word.
>
>
>
> When trying to put high resolution pictures, the only issue is the size of
> the image, considering you are usually working with 8.5 x 11.5 sheets of
> paper.  The higher the resolution the more time it takes to print.  When
> embedding an image in a document, a 150-400dpi image should be fine.
> Anything with more resolution is typically not needed.
>
>
>
> Do you really need the higher resolution, or you just want it?
>
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 8, 2017 12:15 AM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book
>
>
>
> I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG mentioned
> limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a book, and suggested
> another word processing program (possibly an open-source one). I do not
> remember the original question put the LUG, or the alternative word
> processing program.
>
> My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing printed
> books in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing program would
> they suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things on computers, so try
> to foresee and prevent problems, rather than sorting out messes later on.
>
> I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted
> where Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing
> Center. In them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc. Could
> large file sizes cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small clipboard or
> memory which does not handle rearranging chapters or pages with high
> resolution images?
>
> I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an RTF
> file, it would be compatible with any word processing program.
>
> When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a PDF
> file before printing.
>
> John
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Pete Beatty]

I would love to know what the problems, considering that MS Word is a
corporate level word processor and has been used to produce documents with
over 1000 pages of text, graphics and pictures.

 

I have not come across a document that could not be produced in MS word.

 

When trying to put high resolution pictures, the only issue is the size of
the image, considering you are usually working with 8.5 x 11.5 sheets of
paper.  The higher the resolution the more time it takes to print.  When
embedding an image in a document, a 150-400dpi image should be fine.
Anything with more resolution is typically not needed.

 

Do you really need the higher resolution, or you just want it?

 

Pete

 

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Behalf Of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2017 12:15 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

 

I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG mentioned
limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a book, and suggested
another word processing program (possibly an open-source one). I do not
remember the original question put the LUG, or the alternative word
processing program.

My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing printed
books in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing program would
they suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things on computers, so try
to foresee and prevent problems, rather than sorting out messes later on.

I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted where
Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing Center. In
them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc. Could large file
sizes cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small clipboard or memory
which does not handle rearranging chapters or pages with high resolution
images?

I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an RTF
file, it would be compatible with any word processing program.

When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a PDF file
before printing.

John

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Re: [LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[Cathy Pinner]

John,

If you haven't watched this Free Webinar on Word, I suggest you do 
unless you know Word really, really well - and it sounds like you don't.
You'll need to understand Styles etc to get a good book out of Word and 
to successfully combine Legacy RTF with the pieces you are preparing to 
add to it.


Microsoft Word Series - #1 Getting Started with Microsoft Word
by Thomas MacEntee

http://familytreewebinars.com/download.php?webinar_id=354

Note there are other webinars on Word as well but they're not free.
You need to subscribe to the Legacy Webinars to view the others.

Cathy

johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:


I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG
mentioned limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a
book, and suggested another word processing program (possibly an
open-source one). I do not remember the original question put the LUG,
or the alternative word processing program.

My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing
printed books in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing
program would they suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things
on computers, so try to foresee and prevent problems, rather than
sorting out messes later on.

I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted
where Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing
Center. In them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc.
Could large file sizes cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small
clipboard or memory which does not handle rearranging chapters or
pages with high resolution images?

I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an
RTF file, it would be compatible with any word processing program.

When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a
PDF file before printing.

John
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[LegacyUG] Publishing hard copy / printed book

[johnbernacki1]

I use MS Word 2007. A number of months ago somebody in the LUG mentioned 
limitations or problems with MS Word while assembling a book, and suggested 
another word processing program (possibly an open-source one). I do not 
remember the original question put the LUG, or the alternative word processing 
program.

My basic question is whether others have had problems preparing printed books 
in MS Word. If so, which alternative word processing program would they 
suggest? I get nervous about doing complex things on computers, so try to 
foresee and prevent problems, rather than sorting out messes later on.

I have been gradually preparing pages in MS Word, to be later inserted where 
Place Holder pages have been set aside via the Legacy Publishing Center. In 
them, I have inserted high resolution photos, maps etc. Could large file sizes 
cause problems e.g. Does MS Word have a small clipboard or memory which does 
not handle rearranging chapters or pages with high resolution images?

I presume that when you save a book in the Publication Center as an RTF file, 
it would be compatible with any word processing program.

When everything is just right, I intend to save the whole book as a PDF file 
before printing.

John
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